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Keopa
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Posted - 2009.01.31 13:00:00 -
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Hello Aleiceland,
If you enjoy what you have experienced in the game so far, don't give up.
Co-habitation does not mean peace, it just means that peoples actions have an affect on others. Most people enjoy this game because almost anything can happen. Your also free to try and come up with new solutions to problems that other people have not thought of yet. That can be fun unto itself. |
Franga
Gristle Industries
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Posted - 2009.01.31 13:00:00 -
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Originally by: Aleiceland and im not here complaining about the war or something like that , what happens on eve stays on eve , this forum its to give your idea or opinion , nothing else , i do not need war tips about how to handle this kind of situation , couse i already know how to , im just giving my opinion regarding war dec , thats all.
No you weren't, you asked in the OP to have some rules and game mechanics changed. |
Rellik B00n
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Posted - 2009.01.31 13:01:00 -
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Troll thread success rating: 9/10
please continue to answer the OP while he laughs at you. |
ISHKUR MASTER
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.01.31 13:53:00 -
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You have been Trolled.
Also I like this comment http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=971872&page=1#30
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N.
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Posted - 2009.01.31 13:56:00 -
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Originally by: Saedis Myst Edited by: Saedis Myst on 30/01/2009 19:51:05 I certanly hope not to feel like you , as I sayed , I love playing this game.
One suggestion i have its simple and i dont think its hard to apply on the game.
Make Corporations unable to declare war to corporations who never declared war to any other corporation.
Cant get simple and effective as that . This is my alt by the way.
Accept that this is a sandbox PvP game, and that you'll have to work for your own safety rather than simply demanding that the devs protect you.
Simple as that. |
Scarlet Pimpdaddy
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.01.31 14:18:00 -
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Originally by: Aleiceland Scarlet Pimpdaddy, the idea of a simulator its to have the free will to choose your own path , thats why corporations are here for , nothing else , you achieve what you want and the people you share that belive within the corporation.
If a corporation choose the peace path , why you should think that they only way on eve , its war. , it makes no sens , i dont know how long youve been playing this game , but i certanly can tell you , that youre mistaken.
tolerance and the hability to coexist between war and peace , its what a simulator its about . otherwise , we all go play Call of duty m8.
and i certanly hope you are right about ccp taking hand on this matter and if you dont like it , Call of duty , Space invaders , or whatever other pew pew game you think it fits you the bets.
if you dont learn to coexists , you are not prepared to play eve m8 , i mean no offence with this.
Well to start with corporations are an invention to promote the social aspect of an MMO, nothing else. EVE is about war, listen to any interview with a CCP employee (game designers etc) and they will say the same thing. I think that the problem lies with carebears and not PvPers as they have entered a hostile world where they don't want any risk.
Oh and by the way, I do play COD, I play many games. May I suggest Hello Kitty for yourself? Seems to be more your playing style. |
Scarlet Pimpdaddy
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.01.31 14:36:00 -
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Originally by: Aleiceland ive learned a hard lesson today . this forums are pointless. and useless as a costumer , im highly dissapointed.
Wow, I been looking at your past posts and I have to say... CONGRATULATIONS!!!! YOU HAVE WON THE WHINGER OF THE MONTH AWARD!!!!
Please report to the designated null-sec system to receive your prize. |
Wameiri Rahai
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Posted - 2009.01.31 14:52:00 -
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Man this bear is more active than the one at the zoo. who ate my pourage? rawr
Why are you in a player corp complaining about being war dec'ed?
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Ehn Roh
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Posted - 2009.02.01 23:41:00 -
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Edited by: Ehn Roh on 01/02/2009 23:42:29
Originally by: Aleiceland You will be amazed how many people play this game without the intention to go to war so i think they voice its not bein heard .
No, no I will not be amazed, because I will NEVER be amazed at the numbers of people who sign up for PvP games, or PvP servers, and then expect to be able to play PvE unmolested ... and then ***** on the forums when someone kills them.
You say EVE is not a "pew pew" game - there, you are just plain wrong. That statement is simply ridiculous.
You say EVE aims to be a "space life simulator". Fair enough. And I'm willing to bet you're probably a sheep in real life, as well, whose very continued existence is only due to the fact that you have other people around you to take on the hard work of keeping the wolves at bay. Grow up.
If you don't want to be an easy target because you're a corp full of noobs... THEN DON'T FORM A CORP FULL OF FLAMING NOOBS. Go fly with people who know what they're doing until you've learned to stick up for yourself, rather than coming here and crying for CCP to Make The Bad Men Go Away.
I'm sick of dealing with sheep in real life, and I'm sick of dealing with them in EVE; luckily, I can shoot at the sheep in EVE. |
Jernau Riggs
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Posted - 2009.02.01 23:59:00 -
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You have to understand the peaceful corps are needed as cannon foder for the pvp corps.
If ccp made it so that you could make corps that could not be war decked then yea maybe you might get more people playing and allot more non fighting corps. But this would have the effect of making all the pvp players leave the game and that would ruin the economy.
If peoples ships and fitting are not been blowen up then no one is buying new ships and fittings putting the industrials out of business, then putting the miners out of business.
In other words the game needs both players to actually work.
If you really don't like it you can all just go back to npc corp and create a private channel for your members until your ready to take the grifers on or join a larger alliance
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Morsus Argent
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Posted - 2009.02.02 00:23:00 -
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The thing is, there is a kernel of truth in the OP's complaint, in that in a sense war decs actually are quite silly.
CONCORD: Unless they're criminals, you can't attack other ships in high security space, or we'll blow you up. Well, unless your corp formally declared you wanted to attack them in advance and paid a fee. In which case, go nuts.
It's like the police saying they'll take action if you're attacked, unless some other company declared war on the company you work for, in which case you can be beaten up walking down the street by some random stranger you've never met and they won't do anything.
So I can see why some people might object to it.
But there really isn't any other easy way to handle it. EVE isn't like the high street, it's more like the wild west, and there's a need for corporations to be able to respond to other corporations that are interfering with their interests.
The only way to refine it really, would be to require a wardec to have a reason. But that'd be quite tricky technically - you'd have to log flags, kill rights, etc., then they'd have to be transferrable (e.g. to hire mercs). It might be do-able, but even then, requiring every wardec to have a in-game technical reason would be extremely limiting.
So you basically have to lump it. It's a necessary evil.
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Thong Gnome
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Posted - 2009.02.02 04:50:00 -
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Edited by: Thong Gnome on 02/02/2009 04:50:05
what pvp? only pvp I see going on is alot noobs can baiting and a few 0.0 and low sec gate pewpew and some rare pos action.
EVE Online PVP is lackluster |
Anile8er
Solstice Systems Development Concourse
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Posted - 2009.02.02 05:02:00 -
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1. I would like to say......"Flamed"
2. I would like to say that we here at SSDC fully understand your concerns and don't care.
3. I would like to ask where do you base out of cause once our current string of wardecs are done we might be looking for new ones.
4. I would like to say there are various programs online and at local colleges that can assist you with general spelling and word processing. |
Rex Lashar
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.02.02 06:09:00 -
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protip to the OP:
There is already protection from war, its called NPC corporations.
Go join one if its that important to you, just don't start dumb threads where you think you're somehow entitled to run a 50 man corporation without interference.
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Par'Gellen
Gallente Tres Hombres Psychiatric Hospital
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Posted - 2009.02.02 13:41:00 -
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100% agree with OP.
Any system that effectively allows one group of players to force another group of players to stop playing the game for any amount of time is broken on the most basic level.
Unfortunately it's been this way since the beginning and I believe the devs have decided this is one of those "It's always been broken. Why fix it now?" kind of things... |
Anferney
Black Sands
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Posted - 2009.02.02 14:11:00 -
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Originally by: Par'Gellen Any system that effectively allows one group of players to force another group of players to stop playing the game for any amount of time is broken on the most basic level.
How does a war dec force people to stop playing the game? I have fought in every war dec I have ever had and had a whole lot of fun doing so. Even if you are a miner and have never pvp'd before, if you keep getting decced it is probably a good idea to try it so that you can defend yourself. If you don't want decs, sit in the NPC corps where you won't have to deal to them.
Originally by: Par'Gellen Unfortunately it's been this way since the beginning and I believe the devs have decided this is one of those "It's always been broken. Why fix it now?" kind of things...
Saying that it is broken implies that it is not an intended feature when all evidence points to it being an intended feature. |
Tippia
Raddick Explorations BlackWater.
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Posted - 2009.02.02 14:23:00 -
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Originally by: Par'Gellen Any system that effectively allows one group of players to force another group of players to stop playing the game for any amount of time is broken on the most basic level.
Absolutely. Fortunately, the wardec system in EVE doesn't do this. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |
Takon Orlani
Caldari Rowdy Ramblers
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Posted - 2009.02.02 14:26:00 -
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New war target located, running locator on Aleiceland
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Elisabeth Dakar
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Posted - 2009.02.02 14:55:00 -
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I have the solution!
We could double the world so we have two. One will stay like the current eve. U can attack and kill people there and do other nasty stuff. This we will call Felucca. In the other one it will not be posible to harm other players. We will call this new world Tramel.
Players can travel from one to the other world trough strange blue things. Just imagine the posibiltys. You yould rat the whole day in deepest Tramel-0.0 without worring about other players.
My Idea is so great, CCP should imideatly implement it.
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Par'Gellen
Gallente Tres Hombres Psychiatric Hospital
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Posted - 2009.02.02 23:55:00 -
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Maybe I should have phrased it better.
Any system that effectively allows one group to force their playstyle on another group to the extent of causing said group to simply sit out of the game long enough to make the first group go away is broken on the most basic level. |
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