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P'uck
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Posted - 2009.02.01 15:43:00 -
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Has anybody some experience with this on TQ? Personally I don't have that much money to blow on experimental setups right now, and I thought maybe I can get around the "learning through losing" part, at least a bit, by tickling some anecdotes and thoughts out of the lot of you.
There aren't that many ships with slots to "spare" but I can imagine there are setups that can make use of it.
Gimme input, gimme food for thought.
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Dark Soldat
Caldari
Dirty Deeds Corp.
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2009.02.01 15:49:00 -
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maybe... |
Dr Sheepbringer
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.02.01 15:52:00 -
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 Originally by: Dark Soldat
maybe...
Yeah, I'm also with this. If it does work...it's soo going to get nerfed :D |
Naomi Knight
Amarr
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2009.02.01 15:57:00 -
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It is nice to have both, but usually only when you want to solo a bigger ship.
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Dirk Magnum
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2009.02.01 16:00:00 -
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WAY too much grid usage on most ships. The rest of the ships it's too much CPU. Just not a grand idea tbh.
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Xlrs
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Posted - 2009.02.01 16:03:00 -
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Seems like it could work but might have to time the juggling since they can't both be on at the same time. For fitting purposes might drop the web for the AB or MWD since you should be able to get to your target. Juggling the times and choosing when to use would be the hard part I imagine though.
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.02.01 16:14:00 -
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try it on a rifter - it works better than it sounds.
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249km locking? |
P'uck
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Posted - 2009.02.01 16:49:00 -
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Alright guys, thanks for the replies, but so far this is the annual Captain Obvious Convention 
Apart from the rifter thing, maybe...
What about the stiletto for instance? Anybody burnt through a few set up like that? |
Rauxes
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2009.02.01 17:10:00 -
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It's pretty good for tackling, especially in heavier tackles like AFs. Use a scrambler instead of disruptor, use mwd to close and AB to orbit. Once you turn off their mwd you usually don't need a web anyways.
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Kirzath
Amarr
Sinister Elite
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Posted - 2009.02.01 18:58:00 -
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[Jaguar, Tackl]
Small Armor Repairer II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Reactive Membrane II
Micro Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 200
Warp Scrambler II
1MN Afterburner II
Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Foxfire Rocket
200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S
200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S
200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S
[empty rig slot]
[empty rig slot]
Meh. |
Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
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Posted - 2009.02.01 19:01:00 -
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Seems to work on ishtar but haven't tested it much yet. |
Ecky X
SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2009.02.01 19:29:00 -
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I wonder if this is about that scram I used on you yesterday...
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Lance Fighter
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.02.01 19:33:00 -
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ive used malediction setups on sisi that have ab/mwd... its ok, but really only useful vs large turret based ships..
not really the best of ideas
Originally by: Akita T
Seriously ?
...wow... I'm such a forum ho' !
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Zarnak Wulf
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Posted - 2009.02.01 19:45:00 -
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I've used on a vaga on Sissi. I could still get a 7k shield buffer going. Put on a scramble to turn off other people's mwd if it got hairy and I really liked the result. It worked well against larger ships AND missle spammers. It also allowed me to still disengage at will. Not completely decided but I liked it.
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Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2009.02.01 20:15:00 -
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It works well when you are unsure of the oppositions ship types. Pure MWD is quickly dispatched if scrambled and pure AB when webbed.
I have had some luck using a dual-drive Malediction to tackle mwd ships like stabbers, get to 10km and kill their MWD, switch to AB and watch as he is picked apart by your gang.
Not many around, since Amarr ships are the only ones with grid to to pull it off properly, but their mid slots are so scarce that its a huge sacrifice. |
Ambrosious Martin
Dominus Imperium
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Posted - 2009.02.01 22:39:00 -
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Works great IMO... I had a cane setup with AB and MWD, seemed like a joke, until I got tackled by an ishkur just after the QR patch, he scrammed and got into a tight orbit, just so I could wait till he was on the backward circle and I hit the AB and moved away, turning transversal to 0. 2 volleys and POP went the ishkur.
The setup is a surprise in the least, they see your speed fall to near nothing then out of no where your going 500m/s
The rifter part is true too... works great as a disposable tackler
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Grendelsbane
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Posted - 2009.02.01 22:49:00 -
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I've done it, but usually when I want to make as sure as possible I can haul ass, rather than using it on a combat fit.
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Leandro Salazar
Better Dead Then Smeg
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Posted - 2009.02.01 23:09:00 -
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I am using both MWD and AB on my scouting/probing/plex supporting pilgrim, since you need the AB in deadspace and the MWD to escape bubblecamps.
Also thinking of putting both on a Vaga I found abandoned in my hangars to see how this approach works in combat. Prolly gunna end in a lolmail, but hey...
And if you are reading this, you have arrived at the signature without noticing...
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Acobar
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.02.02 00:58:00 -
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I use it on the Sabre, but so far I haven't been in a situation, where the AB were to help escape an unwanted fight. Is very useful to avoid bouncing off gates and such, calibrating speed :) All in all, I think I'll put something else instead of the AB.
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Easley Thames
The Maverick Navy
Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2009.02.02 01:54:00 -
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I have used dual-propulsion Ishtars off and on. You do get a noticeable reduction in missile damage with the AB on, and it could potentially let you dictage range against a scramble-fit opponent.
CPU is really the issue on the Ishtar, not grid, since no one actually tries to put medium hybrids on it. There is enough grid for dual rep with injector + mwd + AB in the mids. Plenty of grid for a plated or plate + MAR setup as well. |
BiggestT
Caldari
Resurrection
Skunk-Works
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Posted - 2009.02.02 04:28:00 -
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I've tried it and its a good setup!
...Too bad it was on a salavaging destroyer LOL
No way wld I try that in pvp, mid slots are too precious.
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Psiri
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Posted - 2009.02.02 04:33:00 -
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For close range fighting ships with 3+ mids I'd say it's a very good option, it allows for fast tackle versus any target and enables AB-boats of fighting back versus long range setups like rail harpies and suchlike.
The downside is that you likely won't have a web, cap booster or either of these two.
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Dr Sheepbringer
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.02.02 09:35:00 -
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Originally by: Psiri
The downside is that you likely won't have a web, cap booster or either of these two.
With frigs (close range) you really don't need a web or cap booster (webs are pretty much useless, because your guns can track drones, and you can just fit a NOS to save your bottocks from a neut. Close range frigs are mostly cap stable anyways (at least mine are), so cap boosting has only it's use with neuts.
Of course I'm flying gallente ships, so the cap issue might be a problem with other races.
I just did some setups in eft and those are starting to look rather interesting. Gotta try them this week in action :) |
P'uck
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Posted - 2009.02.02 11:59:00 -
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Originally by: Ecky X
I wonder if this is about that scram I used on you yesterday...
Could be, are you the arazu that died after scramming me?
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