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Diek Ran Amarr Autonums	Posted - 2009.02.04 06:40:00 - [61] Originally by: Cyprus Black Edited by: Cyprus Black on 04/02/2009 06:39:15 Edited by: Cyprus Black on 04/02/2009 06:37:42 Originally by: CCP Sputnik should you refer to this EVE Online on Amazon.de I have to tell you that this is a outdated box art which was done before the features for the box where even defined. Sorry but you spend your conspiracy power on a fake. About the Game Time, I asked around a few weeks back and nothing was decided at this time but I was told that there will be a Dev-Blog about this before the box gets released which will explain everything. So unfortunately more infos SOON(tm) again. Ok, well let me ask you a non conspiracy question, assuming you're at liberty to say. If the retail box really is coming out with special ingame gifts, can we buy the box and apply those gifts to an account already in existence? And if it is possible, would it be some kind of key code to punch in similar to a PLEX? Taking it a bit further, would it be possible to sell that code ingame? It would be a great way for a newbie to start with some decent cash. Sell off their gift ship code to a veteran player in exchange for isk. ... got game?
Armoured Gamer Gallente Globaltech Industries The ENTITY.	Posted - 2009.02.04 07:15:00 - [62] Originally by: MotherMoon 01100110011101010110001101101011001000000110111101100110011001100000110100001010 you called
Xia Kairui	Posted - 2009.02.04 07:34:00 - [63] Originally by: MotherMoon what is wrong with that? it's like getting toys in a box of cereal. I'm not worried much about a shuttle with a bigger hold, but offering special items for real life money leads towards a slippery slope. There's a ton of MMORGs out there already that are "free to play" but to really use them you need to buy virtual items for your character with real money. As in "Walking skill? Sure, $20! Looking around skill? Just $25 on our web site! A sword? Cannot be found in game, but you can buy any number for $45!". So right now you get a special shuttle alongside the subscription for your money. No big deal. But what if CCP sees that it worked really well and decides to put a special 50km 20 pts Warp Disruptor into the next box? A State Issue Raven? A DDD that can be mounted onto a cruiser hull? An insta-locking battleship hull? And to ensure that only the "worthy" people (iow, those who paid cash) get the items they can not be transferred in any way. Selling EVE items for real money might lead to a situation where you are REQUIRED to spend real life money to be able to compete. So far CCP has avoided that, actually fought against that as much as possible, but this could be a reversal of that course. THAT's what worries me here. Lately CCP has made several moves that seem to solely focus on increasing revenue, and this might be the start of a new business model. Of course, everything said here needs to be taken with a ladle of salt and with a tinfoil hat on.
Armoured Gamer Gallente Globaltech Industries The ENTITY.	Posted - 2009.02.04 07:41:00 - [64] Originally by: Xia Kairui Originally by: MotherMoon what is wrong with that? it's like getting toys in a box of cereal. I'm not worried much about a shuttle with a bigger hold, but offering special items for real life money leads towards a slippery slope. There's a ton of MMORGs out there already that are "free to play" but to really use them you need to buy virtual items for your character with real money. As in "Walking skill? Sure, $20! Looking around skill? Just $25 on our web site! A sword? Cannot be found in game, but you can buy any number for $45!". So right now you get a special shuttle alongside the subscription for your money. No big deal. But what if CCP sees that it worked really well and decides to put a special 50km 20 pts Warp Disruptor into the next box? A State Issue Raven? A DDD that can be mounted onto a cruiser hull? An insta-locking battleship hull? And to ensure that only the "worthy" people (iow, those who paid cash) get the items they can not be transferred in any way. Selling EVE items for real money might lead to a situation where you are REQUIRED to spend real life money to be able to compete. So far CCP has avoided that, actually fought against that as much as possible, but this could be a reversal of that course. THAT's what worries me here. Lately CCP has made several moves that seem to solely focus on increasing revenue, and this might be the start of a new business model. Of course, everything said here needs to be taken with a ladle of salt and with a tinfoil hat on. in guildwars you never had to buy anything other than the disk, so please get priorties stright
Joe Umbra Legion Shadow Empire.	Posted - 2009.02.04 10:16:00 - [65] Originally by: MotherMoon Originally by: Joe Are you trolling?, this entire thread is about players outrage over the new bonus's that are going to be giving away ALA NGE and the nerdrage it cuases when people spent their time EARNING these things ingame and then a month later see it given away to some new player simply to FakeRaise sales numbers for a greedy marketting devision. oh noes that ****ing noob got a shuttle! But CCP I've been playing for 3 years, I earned my money, why do this new players get a free combat-less ship that can carry some cargo. It's no fair, EMO EMO EMO. "2 Times the rewards" "VIP Pass's" I Suppose you'll have some witty responses to the Outrage caused by those freebies when Atari gets their way?
Vaal Erit Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2009.02.04 10:27:00 - [66] Originally by: Xia Kairui So right now you get a special shuttle alongside the subscription for your money. No big deal. But what if CCP sees that it worked really well and decides to put a special 50km 20 pts Warp Disruptor into the next box? A State Issue Raven? A DDD that can be mounted onto a cruiser hull? An insta-locking battleship hull? And to ensure that only the "worthy" people (iow, those who paid cash) get the items they can not be transferred in any way. This is totally what is going to happen. This poster is not freaking out over an incredibly ****ty item given to noobs at all. The sky is indeed falling and EVE is already dead. -- http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sigs.html
Xia Kairui	Posted - 2009.02.04 10:32:00 - [67] Originally by: Armoured Gamer in guildwars you never had to buy anything other than the disk, so please get priorties stright I never mentioned Guild Wars - basically I only know it exists and that's all. There's a lot of MMORGs out (mainly with some anime theme) that do not require you to pay anything to play (DL client, create account, play), but where you have to buy magic gear from the publisher for real money. The games are balanced so you can do some testing and wetting of your feet using the free content, but after some time you'll run into problems that can only be solved by gear you need to buy. Basically the publisher is not charging for the game time itself but for the content and is financing his expenses that way - applied to EVE it would mean no monthly rates, but all T2 and faction modules need to be bought for RL currency from CCP.
Xia Kairui	Posted - 2009.02.04 10:33:00 - [68] Originally by: Vaal Erit The sky is indeed falling and EVE is already dead. The spike on my tinfoil hat will save me!
Sheriff Jones Amarr Clinical Experiment	Posted - 2009.02.04 10:38:00 - [69] Oh noes! The CIA is controlling my thoughts! Err...no we're not. On second thought, maybe there's a point to this. My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong	Posted - 2009.02.04 10:41:00 - [70] Originally by: Joe Originally by: MotherMoon Originally by: Joe Are you trolling?, this entire thread is about players outrage over the new bonus's that are going to be giving away ALA NGE and the nerdrage it cuases when people spent their time EARNING these things ingame and then a month later see it given away to some new player simply to FakeRaise sales numbers for a greedy marketting devision. oh noes that **ing noob got a shuttle! But CCP I've been playing for 3 years, I earned my money, why do this new players get a free combat-less ship that can carry some cargo. It's no fair, EMO EMO EMO. "2 Times the rewards" "VIP Pass's" I Suppose you'll have some witty responses to the Outrage caused by those freebies when Atari gets their way? well honestly I don't believe those are real. Infact I think all of this is silly and stupid to talk about after a dev reply :P VIP pas is for factional warfare. That's great. In fact I hope ALL new players can get into factional warfare. In fact I wish it was forced once your trail was over. Double rewards? Yeah that would be bull**. But no one is bring that up and I'm not defending it.
Oliver Stoned	Posted - 2009.02.06 04:49:00 - [71] http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/eve-online-box-copy-perks-confirmed
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.02.06 04:56:00 - [72] Originally by: Oliver Stoned http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/eve-online-box-copy-perks-confirmed Appliable to both new and existing accounts it seems. Will be a nice little perk indeed for an existing player. Nice new unique ship and 2 months game time they can sell for about 700 mil to fund the instant access faction war that hopefully gets some loving for m10. Sounds like win to me. inappropriate signature. ~WeatherMan
Pueblo Station	Posted - 2009.02.06 05:34:00 - [73] Originally by: Oliver Stoned http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/eve-online-box-copy-perks-confirmed Who wants to bet that the "insider's guide", will be one of those terrible black and white abbreviated strategy guides Prima puts out? I have to lol at all the people freaking out over FW access and a tricked out shuttle though. 5 year vet floating along in his Navy Issue Apocalypse with tech 2 fit and spinning chrome rims WTF, noobs getting a **ing shuttle I can't have?! I'm quitting this **ing game!!11
Toramt	Posted - 2009.02.06 05:49:00 - [74] Perhaps 2x the rewards means characters generated from a box all come with DED Connections I trained?
Cadde Gallente Gene Works AKA-AHN KINGDOM	Posted - 2009.02.06 06:28:00 - [75] Are you guys sure that isn't some old box art from the Faction Warfare expansion that also gave us the apotheosis? The lengths people will go because someone said something on the internet and had "proof" with an undated picture. God you guys fail at speculation. (Unless you didn't in which case you are fine... for now)
srs bsns Gallente Serious Bus1ness	Posted - 2009.02.06 07:18:00 - [76] new players get a free unique shuttle=drama
Zel Nughat Amarr Nughat Corp	Posted - 2009.02.07 12:18:00 - [77] this is just amazing, i mean, cmon, ppl is whining already about something that has not been yet deployed, no player has had access to any client running next update, ffs, stop it, i cant laugh no more ------------------------------------------- The moon is a terrible mistress... ...who walks the night with demons of dread.
Pen Pusher Minmatar Toxic Goats	Posted - 2009.02.07 12:43:00 - [78] Well if they included a 60 day GTC in the box then expect the prices of GTC's to fall as current players will be buying the boxed version just for GTC's which will be cheaper than the ones sold from the online retailers. So I think the boxed version will sell tons for months to come but the majority of buyers will be the current playerbase getting their hands on GTC's. Oh and in a few months or so when the retail price has been reduced to budget expect a landslide of GTC prices.
Alceh Amarr Ghost Data Eych Four Eks Zero Ahr	Posted - 2009.02.07 14:51:00 - [79] I'd like to point out, a few years back there used to be things called Graduation certificates, that if you actually completed the tutorial all noobs got. Now these allowed you to do a free ISM for what ever faction you did the tutorial for. Which if are still around today are pretty much instant access to FW, if CCP is introducing instant access to FW it's just gunna be reintroducing Graduation Certificates which were/are a game mechanic.
Zesty zealot	Posted - 2009.02.07 16:41:00 - [80] Hopefully they'll be able to be contracted/traded like other ingame items and you'll be able to buy them from other players like other unique ships (apotheosis etc.). That way people who enjoy collecting ships but don't want/can't pay for the retail box can obtain one.

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