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iudex
Caldari State Protectorate
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Posted - 2009.02.04 22:40:00 -
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Quote from latest CSM meeting minutes:
Quote: Greyscale said that for the average player it was supposed to be played for only a limited amount of time, not forever. CCP sees a big social value in 0.0 and do not want to disrupt them by boosting FW too much, the same mistake they made when they added level4 missions causing 0.0 players to return to hi sec.
Dear CCP, in particulare Greyscale, i don't want to be a class B player. You obviously think (at least you make it look like you think so) that those in 0.0 are the class A player, while HiSec are farmers anyways and FW is not worth your attention. I have some info from people in a large 0.0 alliance that they do the RMT big style, they own some very profitable system for exactly this reason. Every HiSec grinder looks tiny compared to the amounts of isk they make and sell. Why are they considered class A players ? In Faction Warfare we too lose a lot of ships, i lost hundreds of t2 modules, countless BS and BC so far, so I'm curbing the economy not less than someone in 0.0, why am I a class B player, while the 0.0 guy is your favourite customer ? It's not like he pays more money for his sub, nor do we cause your technicians headache with 300 man fleets in FW, like the 0.0 guys do.
You already said it in this CSM meeting, it's easy to boost FW, simply give a desirable unique item exclusively for militia LP shops, which is suitable to create people start doing those missions en masse, providing more targets for pvper, injecting more live into FW areas. Why don't you want to do this, and see us as class B players that shouldn't be cared about so that they become the oh-so-desirable 0.0 players ?
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.04 22:42:00 -
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You should tl;dr this horrible thread so I can figure out why it is so horrible and then I can troll you for being so horrible and then you can go back to never posting again because you're so horrible. |

Armoured Gamer
Gallente Globaltech Industries The ENTITY.
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Posted - 2009.02.04 22:44:00 -
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the idea of FW is the stepping stone to 0.0 you get used to the combats and then you have those light defining moments where you actually want to fight to accomplish something important and meaninful. it would be wiser on the part of CCP to do this and show the rewards to 0.0 so that the FW pilot move there
>>>stepping stone<<< |

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.02.04 22:44:00 -
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TL;DR cynical version : "I don't want to earn less in FW than I earn living in 0.0"
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iudex
Caldari State Protectorate
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Posted - 2009.02.04 22:48:00 -
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Originally by: An Anarchyyt You should tl;dr this horrible thread so I can figure out why it is so horrible and then I can troll you for being so horrible and then you can go back to never posting again because you're so horrible.
I'm sorry if my English is bad (3rd language) and therefore not easy to read. But i didn't write this post for ******s that are not capable of reading a text with less than 20 lines anyways, so you are not the target audience. If you don't read it, why do you post a reply ?
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Armoured Gamer
Gallente Globaltech Industries The ENTITY.
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Posted - 2009.02.04 22:54:00 -
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Edited by: Armoured Gamer on 04/02/2009 22:55:26
Originally by: iudex
Originally by: An Anarchyyt You should tl;dr this horrible thread so I can figure out why it is so horrible and then I can troll you for being so horrible and then you can go back to never posting again because you're so horrible.
I'm sorry if my English is bad (3rd language) and therefore not easy to read. But i didn't write this post for ******s that are not capable of reading a text with less than 20 lines anyways, so you are not the target audience. If you don't read it, why do you post a reply ?
because we the forum warriors loook upon your poast *play inspirational music* and designate ourselves to post what our comments regardless what you think, if you didnt want people to reply , why would you post in the forum in the first place, as a member of the forum elite , carebear,0.0 combat pilot, ex FW pilot, gas miner, industralist, eve drug deeling pusher,mission ***** i say why can i not reply to your poast. |

An Anarchyyt
Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.04 22:56:00 -
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Originally by: Armoured Gamer because we the forum warriors loook upon your poast *play inspirational music* and designate ourselves to post what our comments regardless what you think, if you didnt want people to reply , why would you post in the forum in the first place, as a member of the forum elite , carebear,0.0 combat pilot, ex FW pilot, gas miner, industralist, eve drug deeling pusher, i say why can i not reply to your poast.
Yes, this is pretty much it.
Basically, I saw your post. Ten I skimmed it and realized it sounded like a bad episode of a bad MTV reality show.
So, I decided that I would have to berate you for you below-average intelligence.
I hope this clears things up for you. |

Kayosoni
Caldari Arcane Technologies The Five
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Posted - 2009.02.04 22:56:00 -
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Originally by: iudex Quote from latest CSM meeting minutes:
Quote: Greyscale said that for the average player it was supposed to be played for only a limited amount of time, not forever. CCP sees a big social value in 0.0 and do not want to disrupt them by boosting FW too much, the same mistake they made when they added level4 missions causing 0.0 players to return to hi sec.
Dear CCP, in particulare Greyscale, i don't want to be a class B player. You obviously think (at least you make it look like you think so) that those in 0.0 are the class A player, while HiSec are farmers anyways and FW is not worth your attention. I have some info from people in a large 0.0 alliance that they do the RMT big style, they own some very profitable system for exactly this reason. Every HiSec grinder looks tiny compared to the amounts of isk they make and sell. Why are they considered class A players ? In Faction Warfare we too lose a lot of ships, i lost hundreds of t2 modules, countless BS and BC so far, so I'm curbing the economy not less than someone in 0.0, why am I a class B player, while the 0.0 guy is your favourite customer ? It's not like he pays more money for his sub, nor do we cause your technicians headache with 300 man fleets in FW, like the 0.0 guys do.
You already said it in this CSM meeting, it's easy to boost FW, simply give a desirable unique item exclusively for militia LP shops, which is suitable to create people start doing those missions en masse, providing more targets for pvper, injecting more live into FW areas. Why don't you want to do this, and see us as class B players that shouldn't be cared about so that they become the oh-so-desirable 0.0 players ?
it is, in fact, a good thing that FW is a mid-tier thing in eve. Its main purpose was to give people targets (which it failed at). it is NOT a source of income, it's an expenditure. Get that out of your mind. |

Armoured Gamer
Gallente Globaltech Industries The ENTITY.
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Posted - 2009.02.04 22:57:00 -
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Originally by: An Anarchyyt
Originally by: Armoured Gamer because we the forum warriors loook upon your poast *play inspirational music* and designate ourselves to post what our comments regardless what you think, if you didnt want people to reply , why would you post in the forum in the first place, as a member of the forum elite , carebear,0.0 combat pilot, ex FW pilot, gas miner, industralist, eve drug deeling pusher, i say why can i not reply to your poast.
Yes, this is pretty much it.
Basically, I saw your post. Ten I skimmed it and realized it sounded like a bad episode of a bad MTV reality show.
So, I decided that I would have to berate you for you below-average intelligence.
I hope this clears things up for you.
least someone was inspired by that :P
i just poasted what i felt , and then i threw up a bit but i blame the op for that |

James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2009.02.04 23:04:00 -
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You are only a class B player if you define yourself as such. This is a sandbox. Go play in the sandbox, and make what you want of it. -- 249km locking? |

Dirk Magnum
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2009.02.04 23:05:00 -
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Edited by: Dirk Magnum on 04/02/2009 23:05:45 FW PvP rewards need to be boosted, not plex rewards. I'm aware that there are good fights that go on in FW, but what do they accomplish other than free PvP? Do they have a strategic objective or some reward that comes out of them? Not really, because there is no meaningful pseudo-sovereignty mechanic for FW. Plex ownership doesn't count.
tbh I sit in my Helios when semi-AFK and watch people speed tank plexes into contested status in Verge Vendor and I wonder what the big deal is.
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Armoured Gamer
Gallente Globaltech Industries The ENTITY.
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Posted - 2009.02.04 23:05:00 -
[12]
a spy is sappin ma sandbox
My main has the flu but i am still here
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Thargat
Caldari North Star Networks Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2009.02.04 23:09:00 -
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We're all B class players. Cus there's ALWAYS someone out there who can give you a good beating. If you have 100mil SP in combat skills you could still be PWND in Jita market. If you have 100mil SP in trading you can still get scammed or podded (should you ever undock). You could be THE BEST missionrunner EVER and still get probed down and blown up. It all depends on how you look at it. If you decide that FW doesn't suit your needs you could always try another career. Breathing 0.0 |

Armoured Gamer
Gallente Globaltech Industries The ENTITY.
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Posted - 2009.02.04 23:12:00 -
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i miss 0.0 already ... i want to be paid ='(
i want my main back i miss my exe tag 
My main has the flu but i am still here
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bff Jill
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Posted - 2009.02.04 23:15:00 -
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But capital blobs are not fun. FW is more fun than 0.0 and will be until they heavily nerf alliances.
But then low sec is where all the real action is at. 0.0 is just a different kind of high sec, dangerous if you have no idea what you are doing, but perfectly calculable and predictable once you do, you just have to buy more clones. That's not harder, that's just more inconvenient.
You are all a bunch of nubs and carebears.
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Jinx Barker
Caldari GFB Scientific
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Posted - 2009.02.04 23:17:00 -
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Originally by: iudex ...I have some info from people in a large 0.0 alliance that they do the RMT big style, they own some very profitable system for exactly this reason. Every HiSec grinder looks tiny compared to the amounts of isk they make and sell...
I would agree with you on the point that CCP employees should try, and, avoid controversial statements that would appear to divide EVE community into preferred camps. Especially if they are basing it on their own play-style with the "real" characters.
That notwithstanding, what information do you have exactly that implicates 0.0 alliances in RMT activities? And, why are you just implying it, rather than come out and say it? Although some of us might agree with the overall point you are making, garnering support for your cause is undermined by baseless innuendo, and should be avoided as much, as previously suggested, as CCP employees should avoid splitting up the community into preferred camps.
So, if you do have an accusation to make about 0.0 alliances, be specific and make it, and tell us that you also filed a petition. If not, please do not make sweeping statements that would only serve to the detriment of getting objective picture of things.
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Armoured Gamer
Gallente Globaltech Industries The ENTITY.
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Posted - 2009.02.04 23:20:00 -
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Originally by: Jinx Barker
So, if you do have an accusation to make about 0.0 alliances, be specific and make it, and tell us that you also filed a petition. If not, please do not make sweeping statements that would only serve to the detriment of getting objective picture of things.
in period basis there is cake |

iudex
Caldari State Protectorate
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Posted - 2009.02.04 23:26:00 -
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Originally by: An Anarchyyt
Yes, this is pretty much it.
Basically, I saw your post. Ten I skimmed it and realised it sounded like a bad episode of a bad MTV reality show.
So, I decided that I would have to berate you for you below-average intelligence.
I hope this clears things up for you.
I don't need an evaluation of my posts by an obvious moron, who judges people before even having read their posts. Sure, my post might look somewhat dumb because it's written in poor English. I'm not from a English-speaking country, i don't use English at work and the school-time, where i learnt English, is quite a few years ago now, so i think i have a sufficient excuse for my bad English. Unlike other MMOs eve does not offer the possibility to make posts in my native English, so if you like devalue anyone with bad English, you silence a big part of the Eve online community. If you at least had a good point with your post, I'd not care, but you posted only crap and admitted that you even didn't read the OP before doing this. Yet you arrogate the right to yourself to judge the intelligence of someone. This proves your ignorance, intolerance and your lack of intelligence alike. Eve forums would be better off without you and your useless comments.
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Armoured Gamer
Gallente Globaltech Industries The ENTITY.
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Posted - 2009.02.04 23:29:00 -
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actually dude i am not complaining about your english just look at jenny spitfire, i am merly flaming about the stuff in your post... which is crap ... the forums would be better off with out people like you thinking what is best for eve when you have only been in it yourself for such a small amount of time. you can poast you comments but you dont need to go all defence when someone doesnt believe in what you do
you are the pure ignorance that you portray the forum posters here ?
how ironic is that
My main has the flu but i am still here
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Psilocin
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.04 23:48:00 -
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MY REWARDS FOR LOW RISK BACKBONE!
Go play WoW.
FOFOFOOOO! |

Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings Nebula Rasa
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Posted - 2009.02.04 23:49:00 -
[21]
Sorry but opting for achura that ship has sailed already.
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
Also Known As |

EnslaverOfMinmatar
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Posted - 2009.02.04 23:49:00 -
[22]
ok, so stay in class C uʍop ǝpısdn ǝɹnʇɐuƃıs ʎɯ ƃuıpɐǝɹ ǝɹɐ noʎ
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Armoured Gamer
Gallente Globaltech Industries The ENTITY.
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Posted - 2009.02.04 23:49:00 -
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wow is boring...hi kwissie bug o/ 
My main has the flu but i am still here
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar MasterBlasters Inc. CORPVS DELICTI
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Posted - 2009.02.04 23:53:00 -
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I live in 0.0! I a class A player!
You may now bask in my awesomeness 
---------------------- Putting the sensual in nonconsensual
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Armoured Gamer
Gallente Globaltech Industries The ENTITY.
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Posted - 2009.02.04 23:56:00 -
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Edited by: Armoured Gamer on 04/02/2009 23:56:46
Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny I live in 0.0! I a class A player!
You may now bask in my awesomeness 
i was basking untill i realised i am in 0.0 aswell
so ill just hug myself for a little bit :)
p.s
Ahem...
KRIS FTW!! Yippe Ki'yay mutha ****ers!
My main has the flu but i am still here
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Kuranta
Minmatar Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2009.02.05 00:06:00 -
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By strating this topic youi became a b class player - no matter what you do in eve. Cope with it or quit.
FW is meant to bring players to 0.0. It's not meant to be a substitute. Adapt and stay or leave to 0.0.....or go back carebearing. |

Armoured Gamer
Gallente Globaltech Industries The ENTITY.
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Posted - 2009.02.05 00:07:00 -
[27]
thread need
Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. |

Draku Rykenen
Gallente Exiled. Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2009.02.05 00:53:00 -
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erm, risk reward?
In 0.0 the rats are much meaner, the missions are much harder and the players are bloodthirsty psychotics that will bend you over for no good reason and laugh as they pew pew months of your hard work into oblivion in a matter of minutes (sometimes seconds ).
In Empire there is safety around every corner and you must go looking for trouble to find it.
I could see a system that grants additional reimbursement for fighting on behalf your empire if a ship is lost in FW combat, but is it so eay to determine that?
I dunno, the whole thing is dubious at best, but I can at least see the point about FW. Can't make all of empire a gold mine though.. then there would be much less reason to venture into 0.0.
Frankly, 0.0 is where the game is really played. EVE isn't just a farm fest.. it is a battlefield on which mighty alliances struggle for wealth and power.
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Ko Shimin
Minmatar Independent Terran Empire Terran Alliance
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Posted - 2009.02.05 01:55:00 -
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Originally by: Draku Rykenen erm, risk reward?
In 0.0 the rats are much meaner, the missions are much harder and the players are bloodthirsty psychotics that will bend you over for no good reason and laugh as they pew pew months of your hard work into oblivion in a matter of minutes (sometimes seconds ).
In Empire there is safety around every corner and you must go looking for trouble to find it.
I could see a system that grants additional reimbursement for fighting on behalf your empire if a ship is lost in FW combat, but is it so eay to determine that?
I dunno, the whole thing is dubious at best, but I can at least see the point about FW. Can't make all of empire a gold mine though.. then there would be much less reason to venture into 0.0.
Frankly, 0.0 is where the game is really played. EVE isn't just a farm fest.. it is a battlefield on which mighty alliances struggle for wealth and power.
Safety in empire??? Maybe if you are in an npc corp or in a very small corp, else you get war deced continously by merc and griefer corps, in the end grinding to replace ships that you lose during wars.
Highsec can prove almost as dangerous as 0.0 for player corps but not as profitable as 0.0.
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ShadowGod56
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Posted - 2009.02.05 02:29:00 -
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well if you don't want to be a B class player move out to a 0.0 corp and become an A class.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2009.02.05 04:05:00 -
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I am an A-Class player, because I am MOTHER****ING CHAINSAW PLANKTON!!!!
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iudex
Caldari State Protectorate
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Posted - 2009.02.05 07:20:00 -
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Originally by: Armoured Gamer actually dude i am not complaining about your English just look at jenny spitfire, i am merly flaming about the stuff in your post... which is crap ... the forums would be better off with out people like you thinking what is best for eve when you have only been in it yourself for such a small amount of time. you can poast you comments but you dont need to go all defence when someone doesnt believe in what you do
you are the pure ignorance that you portray the forum posters here ?
how ironic is that
I didn't refer to you with the last 2 posts. Why do you answer on posts that i made towards An Anarchyyt, as if they were made towards you ? Do you suffer from a mental disease that makes any statement to other people look as if it is always about you ? If not, why do you use several alts within one thread, do you think this makes your insults and pointless attacks more legitimate ? Also your statement makes no sense, since in the very first post (in case you are "An Anarchyyt"s alt) you mentioned that you didn't read the post before making your stupid comments. I've been in Eve for around 3 years now, and my OP was made with the intention that someone in CCP (in case they read it) might reconsider their view on FW pilots. Critics on the content of what i say is welcome. But what you do is you don't read the post and make dumb comments on my person, backed with wrong assumptions that i don't play long etc. This is a degeneration of the forums, instead of a constructive discussion it becomes a place of insulting flames and accusation, like this thread now. I don't want to be rude towards mentally challenged persons or immature youngsters, but can you simply get lost from my threads and stop posting crap comments that has nothing to do with the issue of discussion ?
_________________________________________ Faction Standings: Serpentis +7.81 // Angel Cartel +7.60 // Minmatar Republic -8.68 // Gallente Federation -9.88
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Tibi
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Posted - 2009.02.05 07:33:00 -
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Edited by: Tibi on 05/02/2009 07:33:51 Agree with OP that CCP employees (ahm maybe even employers) tend to show their biased opinions on EVE playerbase.
It has often been quite obvious that a player playing in 0.0 has been held in higher regard and with more discussions given to balancing/rewardsVsRisk/new content for players in 0.0 space while as far as i am aware there's a lot more people in high sec than low or no sec.
To be honest life in high sec hasn't changed a lot in a long time, while 0.0 space changes with every patch.
Factional warfare is an unsuccesful try in the opposite directions from the general CCP trend, but like Black Ops class the FW idea got pre-nerfed or wasn't worked out in all details as it should be.
@CCP: Ninja delete titans. How: use the same person who ninja hacked ghost training. I'm sure noone will notice.
T. * |

Rhatar Khurin
Minmatar Free Ammatar Aid Organisation
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Posted - 2009.02.05 08:32:00 -
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as i dislike engagements of over 50 ships and don't want to join a massive corp/alliance that makes you almost anonymous. I guess that means i'm a class B player as well.. *sniffs sadly* |

Yakia TovilToba
Halliburton Inc.
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Posted - 2009.02.05 08:39:00 -
[35]
Originally by: Armoured Gamer ...crap... the forums would be better off with out people like you thinking what is best for eve when you have only been in it yourself for such a small amount of time ... crap ...
Strong words from a 2007-noob who just joined an NPC noobcorp.
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Tzar'rim
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Posted - 2009.02.05 11:13:00 -
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- not in 0.0 alliance as I hate leechers, backstabbers, spies (guess it shows what can happen) or being used. check - not in FW as I don't believe in FPS pewpew with training wheels. check
I guess that makes me a class C player, not that I ever told myself I'd be anything better /cries. |

Dantes Revenge
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.02.05 11:49:00 -
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Originally by: Tzar'rim - not in 0.0 alliance as I hate leechers, backstabbers, spies (guess it shows what can happen) or being used. check
I believe you've just summed up Eve as a whole. This goes on everywhere, not just in 0.0
The main problem is not the ones you've pointed out but the regular players. The ones I hate are those who lose ships time after time trying to solo everything after being told not to, the ones who chicken out when things get rough and leave their corp mates to get podded when their guns could have made a difference, the ones that don't listen to the FC and get themselves and their corp mates ganked.
At least with the leechers, backstabbers and spies, you know where they are coming from, not literally speaking of course and it's also expected as par for the course.
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H Lecter
Gallente The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2009.02.05 11:53:00 -
[38]
What is all that idiotic crap about player classes? There are no classes in Eve - WoW has them as I've heard.
You do what you like and what you find rewarding. I love losec and I am happy about FW as you can get some nice fights from the FW pilots. If someone told me he was better than me because he is part of a 0.0 alliance I would laugh at him for his silly attitude - but I never actually met such a person.
Now go back to FW, kill some stuff or get killed and enjoy it. Don't let a thoughtless comment spoil the fun for you 
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Mikal Drey
Minmatar Priory Of The Lemon Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.02.05 11:57:00 -
[39]
Originally by: Armoured Gamer the idea of FW is the stepping stone to 0.0 you get used to the combats and then you have those light defining moments where you actually want to fight to accomplish something important and meaninful. it would be wiser on the part of CCP to do this and show the rewards to 0.0 so that the FW pilot move there
>>>stepping stone<<<
heres me thinking that FW was an addition to EVE for RP'ers to have an outlet for PVP and be involved with the ongoing backstory of the game :/
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TheNecromancer
Caldari The Royal Order
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Posted - 2009.02.05 12:01:00 -
[40]
since I am a class B player, how about I only pay + the amount I do today for my subscription then ?
we seems to get less features anyway
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Piper Halliwell
Minmatar Phantom Squad Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.02.05 12:04:00 -
[41]
Cause walking in stations is for all those people in 0.0  --------------------
You've got a gun, I've got a gun, Let's write a tragic ending.
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Irida Mershkov
Gallente Noir.
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Posted - 2009.02.05 12:59:00 -
[42]
Originally by: iudex stuffs
Sorry my friend, but when you pick Caldari - Achura, you're destined to be lower class scum. Sorry, better luck next time.
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Mordekai Bloodwake
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.02.05 13:55:00 -
[43]
Originally by: An Anarchyyt You should tl;dr this horrible thread so I can figure out why it is so horrible and then I can troll you for being so horrible and then you can go back to never posting again because you're so horrible.
Natural Selection at its best, its amazing how kiddie this person can be! just amazing  |

Tzar'rim
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Posted - 2009.02.05 18:07:00 -
[44]
Edited by: Tzar''rim on 05/02/2009 18:09:09
Originally by: Dantes Revenge
Originally by: Tzar'rim - not in 0.0 alliance as I hate leechers, backstabbers, spies (guess it shows what can happen) or being used. check
I believe you've just summed up Eve as a whole. This goes on everywhere, not just in 0.0
The main problem is not the ones you've pointed out but the regular players. The ones I hate are those who lose ships time after time trying to solo everything after being told not to, the ones who chicken out when things get rough and leave their corp mates to get podded when their guns could have made a difference, the ones that don't listen to the FC and get themselves and their corp mates ganked.
At least with the leechers, backstabbers and spies, you know where they are coming from, not literally speaking of course and it's also expected as par for the course.
Yup those as well. The real point is that when I choose to be in 0.0 my assets are on the line, my time and effort are dependant on a large number of variables which includes idiots, ******s and people with hidden agendas. I'm being used to defend/destroy someone else's assets, for someone else's interest.
Not interested in that, the less of my assets that can be held 'hostage' and the more I'm serving my own goals, or rather goals which I understand and where I understand and agree to who benefits from them, the better.
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ikoban
Amarr Scarlet Scourge Society
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Posted - 2009.02.06 00:19:00 -
[45]
Originally by: An Anarchyyt
Originally by: Armoured Gamer because we the forum warriors loook upon your poast *play inspirational music* and designate ourselves to post what our comments regardless what you think, if you didnt want people to reply , why would you post in the forum in the first place, as a member of the forum elite , carebear,0.0 combat pilot, ex FW pilot, gas miner, industralist, eve drug deeling pusher, i say why can i not reply to your poast.
Yes, this is pretty much it.
Basically, I saw your post. Ten I skimmed it and realized it sounded like a bad episode of a bad MTV reality show.
So, I decided that I would have to berate you for you below-average intelligence.
I hope this clears things up for you.
Typical goon f.a.g!
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Grendelsbane
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Posted - 2009.02.06 02:18:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Ko Shimin
Originally by: Draku Rykenen erm, risk reward?
In 0.0 the rats are much meaner, the missions are much harder and the players are bloodthirsty psychotics that will bend you over for no good reason and laugh as they pew pew months of your hard work into oblivion in a matter of minutes (sometimes seconds ).
In Empire there is safety around every corner and you must go looking for trouble to find it.
I could see a system that grants additional reimbursement for fighting on behalf your empire if a ship is lost in FW combat, but is it so eay to determine that?
I dunno, the whole thing is dubious at best, but I can at least see the point about FW. Can't make all of empire a gold mine though.. then there would be much less reason to venture into 0.0.
Frankly, 0.0 is where the game is really played. EVE isn't just a farm fest.. it is a battlefield on which mighty alliances struggle for wealth and power.
Safety in empire??? Maybe if you are in an npc corp or in a very small corp, else you get war deced continously by merc and griefer corps, in the end grinding to replace ships that you lose during wars.
Highsec can prove almost as dangerous as 0.0 for player corps but not as profitable as 0.0.
Rofl. Constantly war-decced by griefers? Only if you're a bunch of spineless imcompetents practically asking for it. There are no griefers in EVE - there are only incompetents, and those who kill them for fun and profit.
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