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Courthouse Caldari Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.02.05 21:31:00 - [1] Originally by: The Mittani hey sup radio is fun~ "My fellow goons. Today is a day that will live in prankery..."
Courthouse Caldari Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.02.05 21:59:00 - [2] Originally by: Monti Reagan Dear Goons, your biggest victory wasn't even done by a Goon, but by a BoB director...If he had gone to Morsus Mihi instead, do you think they'd call this such an epic victory and have all of this chest beating? Goons, you're looking as stupid and low class as ever...Just sayin'. At least when BoB screwed someone over it was done with style and a little hard work and they finished the job(e.g. Molle/MC). Goons you were gifted this by a disgruntled BoB director and it's nothing more than an exploit in the system, that just hasn't been classified as one yet. Gloat more, you're just making yourselves look stupid and generating sympathy for BoB when after their little "MAX Damage" campaign, they had basically none and everyone--even BoB members were getting tired of BoB and Molle. Dance your way to the guillotine, it's very clear that whether or not the alliance "Band of Brothers" still remains it's membership is very much alive and now they, like the rest of EVE remember why your alliance doesn't deserve a seat in this game. At all. You do realize that the BoB director in question got into Goonswarm as a part of a recruitment scam and enjoyed it so much he burned BoB to the ground so he wouldn't be kicked out, right?
Courthouse Caldari Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.02.05 22:11:00 - [3] Originally by: Scorpio Hollanda Point in case... You actually did nothing. The BoB director did. Quit claiming something you didn't do. I can understand though... they were one of your biggest enemies. Still doesn't change the fact that you can't claim it. This was a cultural victory you grub. All we had to do is be goons and he instantly became a revolutionary of the Butte-Donge Thought Army. Once he was reborn from the womb of goondom he was ours. At which point he had no problem taking the ace from the ground floor of their house of cards. He became a goon before he was even found out to be a BoB director.
Courthouse Caldari Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.02.05 22:15:00 - [4] Originally by: Scorpio Hollanda Originally by: Cyrrus Ex speculation it would have been just as epic but maybe toned down a bit with Morsus...but it didn't happen like that did it? it happened with the goons. Point is, it could have been any corp and any alliance. It could have been the newest of new corp or alliance. And it would still not be theirs to claim. The only one that can claim 'victory' is the ex-BoB director. It was his doing and his alone. Morsus have not yet seen the light of Butte-Donge Thought. The revolutionary spirit within would not have been kindled in his heart so quickly or brightly. Clearly you have a long education to undertake before you understand the peace and glory that comes of being a child of Mittens.
Courthouse Caldari Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.02.05 22:17:00 - [5] Originally by: Scorpio Hollanda Originally by: Courthouse This was a cultural victory you grub. All we had to do is be goons and he instantly became a revolutionary of the Butte-Donge Thought Army. Once he was reborn from the womb of goondom he was ours. At which point he had no problem taking the ace from the ground floor of their house of cards. He became a goon before he was even found out to be a BoB director. That's a lot of text to tell me I'm right. But heck, I'll take it. I bolded the important parts.
Courthouse Caldari Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.02.05 22:45:00 - [6] Originally by: Scorpio Hollanda You all know and everybody else knows, it could just as easily have been another corp/alliance. No, I think that this part here is where we have divergent opinions, and given the other responses in this thread, it isn't a feeling echoed by 'everybody else'.
Courthouse Caldari Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.02.05 23:05:00 - [7] Originally by: Scorpio Hollanda Originally by: Courthouse Originally by: Scorpio Hollanda You all know and everybody else knows, it could just as easily have been another corp/alliance. No, I think that this part here is where we have divergent opinions, and given the other responses in this thread, it isn't a feeling echoed by 'everybody else'. You're absolutely right... your fellow Goons and allies do not share my opinion. But it has nothing to do with fact, now does it ? I would argue that it has everything to do with fact. Goons have long held that we don't play the same EVE Online that the rest of EVE plays. The fact that we held our 'culture' as the defining difference between ourselves and other entities (like BoB) would lend credence to the fact that we were able to turn a BoB director based on our culture alone who then went along with a GIA plan to disband their alliance.
Courthouse Caldari Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.02.05 23:15:00 - [8] Originally by: Scorpio Hollanda He chose, you turned nothing. That you were far more appealing to him than any other corp, even BoB, I'll give you that. That you feel that your alliance and/or culture is thereby more superior to BoB's, I'll take that too... Honestly, I couldn't care less. I would care more about the neighbourhood supermarket getting a different owner and I don't give a rats ass about that. The simple, single simple, fact remains, that you guys had **** all to do with BoB's undoing. Period Fanatical Aggression made a great post to this point just a little ways back. If left to his own devices he would have probably done a quick smash and grab or been a long term asset feeding us information from BoB director level channels. The plan to terminate the alliance was presented by Mittani and executed through the GIA. Ultimately, he's the one that pushed the button, but the devil's in the design.
Courthouse Caldari Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.02.05 23:24:00 - [9] Originally by: Scorpio Hollanda Oh I see that. Defintely. Though none of this would have come to pass without the disgruntled ex-BoB'er. In this time, you would not have had the might to break BoB on your own. You needed a BoB'er to do it for you. And he presented himself to you and the keys to the kingdom, on a silver platter. You weren't stupid enough to pass on the opertunity as it presented itself to you. But that's all the claim you can stake. You can't make an assumption about the state of BoB in terms of a military invasion like early 08 again. BoB's director forums were full of infighting and prostating. The alliance was rotten in the core long before this opportunity came about. Goons have also learned a little something about fighting wars since then too. That's not to say that an invasion of Delve wouldn't be a long and drawn-out process, but making a blanket statement that BoB was this invicible juggernaut while at home isn't exactly consistant with the notion of universal truth.
Courthouse Caldari Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.02.05 23:32:00 - [10] Originally by: Scorpio Hollanda I've not made that claim nor would I ever. Everybody can be taken down. And hang on to your pantyhoses girls, so can you. I'm saying you wouldn't have done it any time soon. Okay, so I've now addressed all the points you've brought up and you've either conceded to the points I made or have attempted to divert the discussion to avoid agreeing with me. So on which point were you correct anymore? Answer carefully, I've got 3 pages of your responses to refute you with.
Courthouse Caldari Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.02.05 23:52:00 - [11] Originally by: Scorpio Hollanda Originally by: Cyrrus Ex Originally by: Snagulpus Late post in an epic thread! I welcome our new goon overlords. obligatory overlord post: I, too, welcome our new goon overlords. So you're a Goon pet then ? Right.... explains a lot. You didn't address my post, can I assume you've conceded defeat in this debate and everything from here on is meaningless trolling?

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