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Bekmambetov
Caldari Intergalactic Peace Organization Arcane Alliance
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Posted - 2009.02.07 00:37:00 -
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CVA OBLIVIOUS TO SEV3RANCE ACTS OF PIRACYYWS0-Z û Providence û A young capsuleer explores 0.0 space in a Bantam, seeking out new and exciting asteroids and ships you seldom see in high-security systems. The capsuleer had just jumped into YWS0-Z, totally unaware of MogandiÆs intentions; the Heavy Interdictor had a very secretive agenda. Sources claim that the young capsuleer had targeted a Phobos just before activating the stargate leading to YWS0-Z, the capsuleer had only this to say: Quote: ôI was unaware that Ctrl clicking ships in space would target them, I had intended to click on it to see its picture; I guess that curiosity killed the cat, after all!ö
The poor Bantam pilot quickly realized that something was a little strange, when he found himself on the other side of the stargate there was a strange aura surrounding him, which seemed to originate from the previously examined ship. The mysterious glow was, indeed, a HIC bubble, which prevented the poor pilot from continuing his journey to explore. Additional ships appeared on the gate, a Vulture, a Cerberus and a Crusader. These four fellows appeared so fast that they could in no way be a ô formed up defensive forceö to ô eliminate the targeting Bantam newbieö. The Bantam pilot quickly found his ship destroyed and started to regret bringing +3 implants to the so-called ô safeö Providence of Curatores Veritatis Alliance. It became evident, to this pilot, that he had become a victim of the dreaded Providence pirates. To this pilotÆs much surprise, Sev3rance werenÆt Providence pirates at all û in fact; they were not only blue to CVA, but their main ally. Why would CVAÆs main ally be pirating in CVAÆs space? ArenÆt CVA and Sev3rance strictly anti-pirate? What happened to NRDS ( Not Red DonÆt Shoot)? These questions couldÆve all been answered, but none received a fulfilling answer. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.Killmail transcript: Quote: 2009.02.02 23:31:00
Victim: Bekmambetov Corp: State War Academy Alliance: NONE Faction: NONE Destroyed: Capsule System: YWS0-Z Security: 0.0 Damage Taken: 372
Involved parties:
Name: benlee1977 (laid the final blow) Security: -1.0 Corp: Angel of Vengeance Alliance: Sev3rance Faction: NONE Ship: Crusader Weapon: Gatling Pulse Laser II Damage Done: 372
Name: Mogandi Security: 4.6 Corp: Eudaimonia Inc Alliance: Sev3rance Faction: NONE Ship: Phobos Weapon: X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator Damage Done: 0
Name: FDXMadEva Security: 3.3 Corp: Angel of Vengeance Alliance: Sev3rance Faction: NONE Ship: Cerberus Weapon: Heavy Missile Launcher I Damage Done: 0
Joaquin Hanlon, a harpy pilot, was also involved in this act of piracy. While the young capsuleer examined a cargo container, Hanlon fired his weapons upon the unsuspecting fellow, and warp scrambled him. Little was there to do for the poor fellow, this lead to the activation of the stargate. It is this reporterÆs opinion that the ship loss was well deserved, Sev3rance do claim targeting to be an aggressive act, so they destroy ships that target them to prevent any sort of ô EWarö to be used against them. What this reporter has yet to comprehend, is how a capsule will perform any such act on any ship, specifically tech 2 ships. Source: Bekmambetov's Logs
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Bekmambetov
Caldari Intergalactic Peace Organization Arcane Alliance
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Posted - 2009.02.07 00:38:00 -
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Gladiator Jonny
Gallente Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.02.07 00:47:00 -
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A giant who cares. |

MirrorGod
Amarr Heretic Army
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Posted - 2009.02.07 00:57:00 -
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YEAH! |

Chelou
Gallente 8 Apostles Inc. Cute Alliance
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Posted - 2009.02.07 01:11:00 -
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no seriously ... is this a troll ? who cares ? look Im gonna send 15mils to bantam pilot !! :)) ______________
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Himeko
Gallente Democracy of Klingon Brothers Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2009.02.07 01:13:00 -
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btw... i thou npc corps were shot in sight due possible spies...
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Gneeznow
Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.02.07 01:29:00 -
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CVA are such a bunch of jerks tbh |

Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.02.07 01:31:00 -
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A bantam was killed 5 days ago.
I for one am shocked by this news |

An Anarchyyt
Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.07 01:35:00 -
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Originally by: Gladiator Jonny A giant who cares.
Not to mention, Eve is over anyway. |

evos
Caldari Terra Nostra SATRAPY
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Posted - 2009.02.07 01:52:00 -
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Originally by: Gneeznow CVA are such a bunch of jerks tbh
Your brothers then? Cause Pl are the same
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Tao Zun
Gallente The SOS Brigade Fluidic Anti-Gravity
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Posted - 2009.02.07 01:53:00 -
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My Alliance had an issue with Severance back a couple weeks ago like that. Another corp mate and i were chasing some reds and ran into a Severance at a gate when they opened fire. And what really makes it weird is that we are BLUE to Severance and CVA. But I will have to say that if you just talk to them later after they will take care of anything that may have occurred and talked to the people that fired on you.
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Bekmambetov
Caldari Intergalactic Peace Organization Arcane Alliance
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Posted - 2009.02.07 01:54:00 -
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Originally by: Tao Zun My Alliance had an issue with Severance back a couple weeks ago like that. Another corp mate and i were chasing some reds and ran into a Severance at a gate when they opened fire. And what really makes it weird is that we are BLUE to Severance and CVA. But I will have to say that if you just talk to them later after they will take care of anything that may have occurred and talked to the people that fired on you.
I did talk to them, and I have yet to receive any civilized answer.
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Tao Zun
Gallente The SOS Brigade Fluidic Anti-Gravity
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Posted - 2009.02.07 02:07:00 -
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Eve mail me who youve been talking too ill see if i cant find someone to help you out that is higher up. no promises
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Isaac Starstriker
Amarr Solaris Operations
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Posted - 2009.02.07 02:47:00 -
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sigh...
I'll tell you what I tell every idiot that flys through providence space.
First off: Targeting a ship is usually considered an agressive act especially when your in an NPC corp. Do not want to get shot on by CVA? Join a corp, ou'll be more trusted. Even when you leave that corp.
Second: Again, targeting is stupid. Don't do it unless you have permissions...
Third: Joaquin Hanlon, a harpy pilot, was also involved in this act of piracy. While the young capsuleer examined a cargo container he got shot. Is it just me, or is that considered theft? Yeah, it is. You don't examine random containers that are claimed by CVA or its allies. They've had enough theft.
Until you tell me a legitimate story that CVA "did piracy" without any reason and didn't make up for it, your point is moot.
--Isaac Isaac's Haul*Mart
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Havlentia Castigatrix
Gallente The Avalon Foundation Delta.Green
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Posted - 2009.02.07 02:52:00 -
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Originally by: Bekmambetov
Victim: Bekmambetov Corp: State War Academy
Fair game.
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Bekmambetov
Caldari Intergalactic Peace Organization Arcane Alliance
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Posted - 2009.02.07 02:57:00 -
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Originally by: Isaac Starstriker sigh...
I'll tell you what I tell every idiot that flys through providence space.
First off: Targeting a ship is usually considered an agressive act especially when your in an NPC corp. Do not want to get shot on by CVA? Join a corp, ou'll be more trusted. Even when you leave that corp.
Second: Again, targeting is stupid. Don't do it unless you have permissions...
Third: Joaquin Hanlon, a harpy pilot, was also involved in this act of piracy. While the young capsuleer examined a cargo container he got shot. Is it just me, or is that considered theft? Yeah, it is. You don't examine random containers that are claimed by CVA or its allies. They've had enough theft.
Until you tell me a legitimate story that CVA "did piracy" without any reason and didn't make up for it, your point is moot.
--Isaac
So targeting is an act of aggression. So I didn't know ctrl+click targets. I quickly tried to undo my targeting in an OBVIOUS way by jumping, don't tell me that the pilot who shot me is stupid and just thought I was out to get him in my little bantam, I'm sure the t1 mining laser and t1 cargo expander looked very threatening to him, and you know what, maybe I took some rockets in an abandoned container, there was nobody near it and I was going to throw it's contents into a station and reprocess/sell it (which would've been good for Providence economy, btw).
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2009.02.02 23:30:00
Victim: Bekmambetov Corp: State War Academy Alliance: NONE Faction: NONE Destroyed: Bantam System: YWS0-Z Security: 0.0 Damage Taken: 456
Involved parties:
Name: FDXMadcat (laid the final blow) Security: 0.0 Corp: Angel of Vengeance Alliance: Sev3rance Faction: NONE Ship: Vulture Weapon: 250mm Railgun II Damage Done: 456
Name: Mogandi Security: 4.6 Corp: Eudaimonia Inc Alliance: Sev3rance Faction: NONE Ship: Phobos Weapon: E5 Prototype Energy Vampire Damage Done: 0
Destroyed items:
Miner I 1MN Afterburner I
Dropped items:
Caldari Navy Gremlin Rocket, Qty: 28 (Cargo) Gremlin Rocket, Qty: 3100 (Cargo)
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CorInaXeraL
Amarr 5ER3NITY
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Posted - 2009.02.07 03:05:00 -
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Firstly. Starter corp in 0.0 space screams spy. No one is bound to trust it. Secondly, while it is understandable that perhaps there was a mistake in targeting, I've long been brought up under the tutelage that ignorance is not an excuse. Learn your controls before flying a ship. Thirdly, if you are going to fly in another alliance's space, an alliance which you are not a part of, know their policies and procedures. -7- has long stood by their policy that targeting is an act of aggression. If you are going to fly in another alliance's space, ask them if there are any policies you need to be aware of. Again, ignorance is not an excuse. Fourth. Theft of a container not belonging to you in another alliance's space, even if it is abandoned, is a big no-no. It's their property to leave behind if they feel like it.
Just a few pointers for a new pilot. Don't take things the wrong way. After all, in the end, it is just a game.
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Kayosoni
Caldari Arcane Technologies The Five
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Posted - 2009.02.07 03:44:00 -
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I remember when I used to kill CVA. There was this one dude spamming local with RP crapspeak and sitting on a gate in an arbitrator. He used minmatar drones, so I made fun of him after killing him.
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Gneeznow
Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.02.07 04:02:00 -
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Originally by: Kayosoni I remember when I used to kill CVA. There was this one dude spamming local with RP crapspeak and sitting on a gate in an arbitrator. He used minmatar drones, so I made fun of him after killing him.
they dont do that anymore, there's just a stony silence in local from CVA these days, so I have to vomit all over local twice as hard to make up for it.
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Jon Rocks
Amarr Rothana Heavy Industries The Black Isle
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Posted - 2009.02.07 04:06:00 -
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There are proper channels to go through to solve problems like this. This forum is not one of them.
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Jared D'Uroth
Minmatar Ruthless Aggression United Star Federation
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Posted - 2009.02.07 04:07:00 -
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This is why I HATE CVA. They claim to be anti-pirates, but a Bantam here or there, take his implants, who cares!?
This is most certainly not right and is NOT justice!
CVA might think they can get away with this just because they own the space. We can not stand for this! Our founding fathers did NOT mean this when they said give me liberty or give me death!
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Ayra Stormborn
Amarr THE INTERNET.
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Posted - 2009.02.07 04:11:00 -
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Couldn't you just read one of the thousands of other threads like this that have been started?
Nobody cares that you thought you were safe in 0.0 and got blown up |

Nicolo da'Vicenza
Amarr Dissonance Corp Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.02.07 04:46:00 -
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is this is the thread where i start targeting people on their home turf, in the middle of a fleet op, and get mad when they blow me up? |

InSession
Amarr Shuugouteki
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Posted - 2009.02.07 05:11:00 -
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Thanks for the lol 
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Garreck
Gallente Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2009.02.07 05:26:00 -
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It is policy to treat targetting in 0.0 as an act of aggression. If a bantam tagetted -7- vessels in -7- space as I understand from the OP did in fact take place, they did not step outside the rules by eleminating the bantam.
If this is the OP's definition of piracy, I'm afraid I'm at a loss for words. Please do be more careful in the future.
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Spyra Gryra
Amarr Cruoris Seraphim Exalted.
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Posted - 2009.02.07 05:27:00 -
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This is an outrage!
money hoes and clothes All tha Sev3rance knows.
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Mr Adebisi
Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.07 05:50:00 -
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Originally by: Spyra Gryra This is an outrage!
money hoes and clothes All tha Sev3rance knows.
kuzimblackya'll alt spotted |

Kirex
Gallente Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2009.02.07 06:02:00 -
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Copy and paste your post here: http://myeve.eve-online.com/news.asp?a=submitrp |

LastTraitorStanding
Amarr The Imperial Assassins
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Posted - 2009.02.07 06:15:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Adebisi
Originally by: Spyra Gryra This is an outrage!
money hoes and clothes All tha Sev3rance knows.
kuzimblackya'll alt spotted
I just stabbed myself in the face at the mention of that name due to losing massive amounts of I.Q.
ITT true story.. I'm bleeding. -------------------------------- Semper ubi sub ubi
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Bekmambetov
Caldari Intergalactic Peace Organization Arcane Alliance
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Posted - 2009.02.07 12:45:00 -
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Originally by: Garreck It is policy to treat targetting in 0.0 as an act of aggression. If a bantam tagetted -7- vessels in -7- space as I understand from the OP did in fact take place, they did not step outside the rules by eleminating the bantam.
If this is the OP's definition of piracy, I'm afraid I'm at a loss for words. Please do be more careful in the future.
I'd like to point out that this isn't about the bantam at all, it's about the capsule. Does a pod really cause a threat in NRDS space? |
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