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Bekmambetov
Caldari Intergalactic Peace Organization Arcane Alliance
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Posted - 2009.02.07 00:37:00 -
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CVA OBLIVIOUS TO SEV3RANCE ACTS OF PIRACYYWS0-Z û Providence û A young capsuleer explores 0.0 space in a Bantam, seeking out new and exciting asteroids and ships you seldom see in high-security systems. The capsuleer had just jumped into YWS0-Z, totally unaware of MogandiÆs intentions; the Heavy Interdictor had a very secretive agenda. Sources claim that the young capsuleer had targeted a Phobos just before activating the stargate leading to YWS0-Z, the capsuleer had only this to say: Quote: ôI was unaware that Ctrl clicking ships in space would target them, I had intended to click on it to see its picture; I guess that curiosity killed the cat, after all!ö
The poor Bantam pilot quickly realized that something was a little strange, when he found himself on the other side of the stargate there was a strange aura surrounding him, which seemed to originate from the previously examined ship. The mysterious glow was, indeed, a HIC bubble, which prevented the poor pilot from continuing his journey to explore. Additional ships appeared on the gate, a Vulture, a Cerberus and a Crusader. These four fellows appeared so fast that they could in no way be a ô formed up defensive forceö to ô eliminate the targeting Bantam newbieö. The Bantam pilot quickly found his ship destroyed and started to regret bringing +3 implants to the so-called ô safeö Providence of Curatores Veritatis Alliance. It became evident, to this pilot, that he had become a victim of the dreaded Providence pirates. To this pilotÆs much surprise, Sev3rance werenÆt Providence pirates at all û in fact; they were not only blue to CVA, but their main ally. Why would CVAÆs main ally be pirating in CVAÆs space? ArenÆt CVA and Sev3rance strictly anti-pirate? What happened to NRDS ( Not Red DonÆt Shoot)? These questions couldÆve all been answered, but none received a fulfilling answer. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.Killmail transcript: Quote: 2009.02.02 23:31:00
Victim: Bekmambetov Corp: State War Academy Alliance: NONE Faction: NONE Destroyed: Capsule System: YWS0-Z Security: 0.0 Damage Taken: 372
Involved parties:
Name: benlee1977 (laid the final blow) Security: -1.0 Corp: Angel of Vengeance Alliance: Sev3rance Faction: NONE Ship: Crusader Weapon: Gatling Pulse Laser II Damage Done: 372
Name: Mogandi Security: 4.6 Corp: Eudaimonia Inc Alliance: Sev3rance Faction: NONE Ship: Phobos Weapon: X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator Damage Done: 0
Name: FDXMadEva Security: 3.3 Corp: Angel of Vengeance Alliance: Sev3rance Faction: NONE Ship: Cerberus Weapon: Heavy Missile Launcher I Damage Done: 0
Joaquin Hanlon, a harpy pilot, was also involved in this act of piracy. While the young capsuleer examined a cargo container, Hanlon fired his weapons upon the unsuspecting fellow, and warp scrambled him. Little was there to do for the poor fellow, this lead to the activation of the stargate. It is this reporterÆs opinion that the ship loss was well deserved, Sev3rance do claim targeting to be an aggressive act, so they destroy ships that target them to prevent any sort of ô EWarö to be used against them. What this reporter has yet to comprehend, is how a capsule will perform any such act on any ship, specifically tech 2 ships. Source: Bekmambetov's Logs
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Bekmambetov
Caldari Intergalactic Peace Organization Arcane Alliance
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Posted - 2009.02.07 00:38:00 -
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Gladiator Jonny
Gallente Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.02.07 00:47:00 -
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A giant who cares. |

MirrorGod
Amarr Heretic Army
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Posted - 2009.02.07 00:57:00 -
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YEAH! |

Chelou
Gallente 8 Apostles Inc. Cute Alliance
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Posted - 2009.02.07 01:11:00 -
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no seriously ... is this a troll ? who cares ? look Im gonna send 15mils to bantam pilot !! :)) ______________
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Himeko
Gallente Democracy of Klingon Brothers Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2009.02.07 01:13:00 -
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btw... i thou npc corps were shot in sight due possible spies...
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Gneeznow
Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.02.07 01:29:00 -
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CVA are such a bunch of jerks tbh |

Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.02.07 01:31:00 -
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A bantam was killed 5 days ago.
I for one am shocked by this news |

An Anarchyyt
Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.07 01:35:00 -
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Originally by: Gladiator Jonny A giant who cares.
Not to mention, Eve is over anyway. |

evos
Caldari Terra Nostra SATRAPY
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Posted - 2009.02.07 01:52:00 -
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Originally by: Gneeznow CVA are such a bunch of jerks tbh
Your brothers then? Cause Pl are the same
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Tao Zun
Gallente The SOS Brigade Fluidic Anti-Gravity
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Posted - 2009.02.07 01:53:00 -
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My Alliance had an issue with Severance back a couple weeks ago like that. Another corp mate and i were chasing some reds and ran into a Severance at a gate when they opened fire. And what really makes it weird is that we are BLUE to Severance and CVA. But I will have to say that if you just talk to them later after they will take care of anything that may have occurred and talked to the people that fired on you.
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Bekmambetov
Caldari Intergalactic Peace Organization Arcane Alliance
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Posted - 2009.02.07 01:54:00 -
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Originally by: Tao Zun My Alliance had an issue with Severance back a couple weeks ago like that. Another corp mate and i were chasing some reds and ran into a Severance at a gate when they opened fire. And what really makes it weird is that we are BLUE to Severance and CVA. But I will have to say that if you just talk to them later after they will take care of anything that may have occurred and talked to the people that fired on you.
I did talk to them, and I have yet to receive any civilized answer.
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Tao Zun
Gallente The SOS Brigade Fluidic Anti-Gravity
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Posted - 2009.02.07 02:07:00 -
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Eve mail me who youve been talking too ill see if i cant find someone to help you out that is higher up. no promises
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Isaac Starstriker
Amarr Solaris Operations
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Posted - 2009.02.07 02:47:00 -
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sigh...
I'll tell you what I tell every idiot that flys through providence space.
First off: Targeting a ship is usually considered an agressive act especially when your in an NPC corp. Do not want to get shot on by CVA? Join a corp, ou'll be more trusted. Even when you leave that corp.
Second: Again, targeting is stupid. Don't do it unless you have permissions...
Third: Joaquin Hanlon, a harpy pilot, was also involved in this act of piracy. While the young capsuleer examined a cargo container he got shot. Is it just me, or is that considered theft? Yeah, it is. You don't examine random containers that are claimed by CVA or its allies. They've had enough theft.
Until you tell me a legitimate story that CVA "did piracy" without any reason and didn't make up for it, your point is moot.
--Isaac Isaac's Haul*Mart
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Havlentia Castigatrix
Gallente The Avalon Foundation Delta.Green
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Posted - 2009.02.07 02:52:00 -
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Originally by: Bekmambetov
Victim: Bekmambetov Corp: State War Academy
Fair game.
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Bekmambetov
Caldari Intergalactic Peace Organization Arcane Alliance
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Posted - 2009.02.07 02:57:00 -
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Originally by: Isaac Starstriker sigh...
I'll tell you what I tell every idiot that flys through providence space.
First off: Targeting a ship is usually considered an agressive act especially when your in an NPC corp. Do not want to get shot on by CVA? Join a corp, ou'll be more trusted. Even when you leave that corp.
Second: Again, targeting is stupid. Don't do it unless you have permissions...
Third: Joaquin Hanlon, a harpy pilot, was also involved in this act of piracy. While the young capsuleer examined a cargo container he got shot. Is it just me, or is that considered theft? Yeah, it is. You don't examine random containers that are claimed by CVA or its allies. They've had enough theft.
Until you tell me a legitimate story that CVA "did piracy" without any reason and didn't make up for it, your point is moot.
--Isaac
So targeting is an act of aggression. So I didn't know ctrl+click targets. I quickly tried to undo my targeting in an OBVIOUS way by jumping, don't tell me that the pilot who shot me is stupid and just thought I was out to get him in my little bantam, I'm sure the t1 mining laser and t1 cargo expander looked very threatening to him, and you know what, maybe I took some rockets in an abandoned container, there was nobody near it and I was going to throw it's contents into a station and reprocess/sell it (which would've been good for Providence economy, btw).
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2009.02.02 23:30:00
Victim: Bekmambetov Corp: State War Academy Alliance: NONE Faction: NONE Destroyed: Bantam System: YWS0-Z Security: 0.0 Damage Taken: 456
Involved parties:
Name: FDXMadcat (laid the final blow) Security: 0.0 Corp: Angel of Vengeance Alliance: Sev3rance Faction: NONE Ship: Vulture Weapon: 250mm Railgun II Damage Done: 456
Name: Mogandi Security: 4.6 Corp: Eudaimonia Inc Alliance: Sev3rance Faction: NONE Ship: Phobos Weapon: E5 Prototype Energy Vampire Damage Done: 0
Destroyed items:
Miner I 1MN Afterburner I
Dropped items:
Caldari Navy Gremlin Rocket, Qty: 28 (Cargo) Gremlin Rocket, Qty: 3100 (Cargo)
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CorInaXeraL
Amarr 5ER3NITY
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Posted - 2009.02.07 03:05:00 -
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Firstly. Starter corp in 0.0 space screams spy. No one is bound to trust it. Secondly, while it is understandable that perhaps there was a mistake in targeting, I've long been brought up under the tutelage that ignorance is not an excuse. Learn your controls before flying a ship. Thirdly, if you are going to fly in another alliance's space, an alliance which you are not a part of, know their policies and procedures. -7- has long stood by their policy that targeting is an act of aggression. If you are going to fly in another alliance's space, ask them if there are any policies you need to be aware of. Again, ignorance is not an excuse. Fourth. Theft of a container not belonging to you in another alliance's space, even if it is abandoned, is a big no-no. It's their property to leave behind if they feel like it.
Just a few pointers for a new pilot. Don't take things the wrong way. After all, in the end, it is just a game.
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Kayosoni
Caldari Arcane Technologies The Five
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Posted - 2009.02.07 03:44:00 -
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I remember when I used to kill CVA. There was this one dude spamming local with RP crapspeak and sitting on a gate in an arbitrator. He used minmatar drones, so I made fun of him after killing him.
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Gneeznow
Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.02.07 04:02:00 -
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Originally by: Kayosoni I remember when I used to kill CVA. There was this one dude spamming local with RP crapspeak and sitting on a gate in an arbitrator. He used minmatar drones, so I made fun of him after killing him.
they dont do that anymore, there's just a stony silence in local from CVA these days, so I have to vomit all over local twice as hard to make up for it.
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Jon Rocks
Amarr Rothana Heavy Industries The Black Isle
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Posted - 2009.02.07 04:06:00 -
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There are proper channels to go through to solve problems like this. This forum is not one of them.
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Jared D'Uroth
Minmatar Ruthless Aggression United Star Federation
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Posted - 2009.02.07 04:07:00 -
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This is why I HATE CVA. They claim to be anti-pirates, but a Bantam here or there, take his implants, who cares!?
This is most certainly not right and is NOT justice!
CVA might think they can get away with this just because they own the space. We can not stand for this! Our founding fathers did NOT mean this when they said give me liberty or give me death!
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Ayra Stormborn
Amarr THE INTERNET.
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Posted - 2009.02.07 04:11:00 -
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Couldn't you just read one of the thousands of other threads like this that have been started?
Nobody cares that you thought you were safe in 0.0 and got blown up |

Nicolo da'Vicenza
Amarr Dissonance Corp Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.02.07 04:46:00 -
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is this is the thread where i start targeting people on their home turf, in the middle of a fleet op, and get mad when they blow me up? |

InSession
Amarr Shuugouteki
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Posted - 2009.02.07 05:11:00 -
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Thanks for the lol 
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Garreck
Gallente Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2009.02.07 05:26:00 -
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It is policy to treat targetting in 0.0 as an act of aggression. If a bantam tagetted -7- vessels in -7- space as I understand from the OP did in fact take place, they did not step outside the rules by eleminating the bantam.
If this is the OP's definition of piracy, I'm afraid I'm at a loss for words. Please do be more careful in the future.
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Spyra Gryra
Amarr Cruoris Seraphim Exalted.
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Posted - 2009.02.07 05:27:00 -
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This is an outrage!
money hoes and clothes All tha Sev3rance knows.
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Mr Adebisi
Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.07 05:50:00 -
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Originally by: Spyra Gryra This is an outrage!
money hoes and clothes All tha Sev3rance knows.
kuzimblackya'll alt spotted |

Kirex
Gallente Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2009.02.07 06:02:00 -
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Copy and paste your post here: http://myeve.eve-online.com/news.asp?a=submitrp |

LastTraitorStanding
Amarr The Imperial Assassins
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Posted - 2009.02.07 06:15:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Adebisi
Originally by: Spyra Gryra This is an outrage!
money hoes and clothes All tha Sev3rance knows.
kuzimblackya'll alt spotted
I just stabbed myself in the face at the mention of that name due to losing massive amounts of I.Q.
ITT true story.. I'm bleeding. -------------------------------- Semper ubi sub ubi
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Bekmambetov
Caldari Intergalactic Peace Organization Arcane Alliance
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Posted - 2009.02.07 12:45:00 -
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Originally by: Garreck It is policy to treat targetting in 0.0 as an act of aggression. If a bantam tagetted -7- vessels in -7- space as I understand from the OP did in fact take place, they did not step outside the rules by eleminating the bantam.
If this is the OP's definition of piracy, I'm afraid I'm at a loss for words. Please do be more careful in the future.
I'd like to point out that this isn't about the bantam at all, it's about the capsule. Does a pod really cause a threat in NRDS space? |

RedSplat
Caldari Heretic Army
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Posted - 2009.02.07 13:00:00 -
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Pull a Montoya on them, its the only way.
Did you enter Sev space through KB? Theres your first mistake.
Tbh, if neutrals want to enter Providence it is best to simply avoid Sev. altogether and hence avoid most of the ****ery and 'CVA shot me1111!!' problems people have.
[i] FOR PONY |

Tharrn
Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2009.02.07 13:35:00 -
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You could have contacted a -7-/CVA diplomat with your issues but running to the board is so much more spectacular, isn't it?
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Let's agree to respect each others views, no matter how wrong yours may be. |

Bekmambetov
Caldari Intergalactic Peace Organization Arcane Alliance
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Posted - 2009.02.07 14:36:00 -
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Originally by: Tharrn You could have contacted a -7-/CVA diplomat with your issues but running to the board is so much more spectacular, isn't it?
I did contact diplomats, I even tried talking to Equinox Daedalus. I received no proper reply and my last resort is clearly posting on the forum, in hopes that a CVA/-7- diplomat sees it and wishes to rectify the situation, if so is done, this thread would be closed and the title changed to an unclickable string. |

CorInaXeraL
Amarr 5ER3NITY
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Posted - 2009.02.07 16:36:00 -
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Originally by: Bekmambetov
Originally by: Garreck It is policy to treat targetting in 0.0 as an act of aggression. If a bantam tagetted -7- vessels in -7- space as I understand from the OP did in fact take place, they did not step outside the rules by eleminating the bantam.
If this is the OP's definition of piracy, I'm afraid I'm at a loss for words. Please do be more careful in the future.
I'd like to point out that this isn't about the bantam at all, it's about the capsule. Does a pod really cause a threat in NRDS space?
In short? Yes. -7- has never once stopped with the ship kill when someone commits an act of aggression. The loss of the pod is easily summed up as 'your lesson learned'. I have witnessed and heard of several incidents similar to this one, and one thing -7- has done is remain consistent with their treatment of such acts. |

Garreck
Gallente Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2009.02.07 18:12:00 -
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Originally by: Bekmambetov
Originally by: Garreck It is policy to treat targetting in 0.0 as an act of aggression. If a bantam tagetted -7- vessels in -7- space as I understand from the OP did in fact take place, they did not step outside the rules by eleminating the bantam.
If this is the OP's definition of piracy, I'm afraid I'm at a loss for words. Please do be more careful in the future.
I'd like to point out that this isn't about the bantam at all, it's about the capsule. Does a pod really cause a threat in NRDS space?
Doesn't matter. A hostile action was taken. Nowhere is it even implied that NRDS means no podding. A target took a hostile action and was legitimately dealt with.
There's not anything else to be discussed. If you want to carry on about it, it's your comedy routine. Have a blast.
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Optical Illusion
Minmatar Templars of Space Delinquent Habits
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Posted - 2009.02.07 18:14:00 -
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o how i miss cva and there lovely people. never cease to amaze me.
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Hemmo Paskiainen
Gallente Black-Sun Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2009.02.07 18:28:00 -
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Originally by: Bekmambetov Edited by: Bekmambetov on 07/02/2009 12:44:01 I'd like to stress here, that this isn't about the bantam itself, but about the capsule with implants in it. A capsule causes no threat, so why kill it?
Cause podding is even more fun then killing a ship  |

Ikar Kaltin
Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2009.02.07 23:34:00 -
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Arcane Alliance are KOS to CVA and all within Providence. Recently I was contacted by a pilot from Arcane who wished for them to be removed from KOS for piracy, our policys for redemption were explained and the pilot replied he was consulting with his alliance leadership.
I never heard anything more from either the pilot or from any other figure.
Arcane are KOS and are have been aware of that fact for a while. Complaining about being destroyed weeks after the facts accomplishes nothing. We will not pander to public complaints of pirates of the Empire and her Amarrian Providence.
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UWE B0LL
Minmatar THE INTERNET.
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Posted - 2009.02.08 00:19:00 -
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Sev3rance are not very different from other Providence holding Alliances. Part of the agreement that holding alliances make with CVA is that neutrals and blues are allowed access to the area for ratting, mining etc and the Providence holders do well in keeping the area safe from the big bad people that come to shoot the happy happy carebears.
Now Sev3rance follow the general rules of Providence, but sometimes can be some of the biggest stuckup bastards in the region. A number of people I know who have lived in Providence, defending the area from the pirates and other hostiles, only to come under fire from Sev3rance for no good reason. They smack talk neutrals from time to time, again without good reason and are generally idiots. As for them participating in acts of piracy, well yeah under providence rules I suppose they do at times.
The other holders in Providence I find to be pretty good, now i isn't all Sev3rance members that are this way, just a minority in my opinion, sadly that minority is the majority of their leadership . Yeah I dislike these guys, with good reason, I have seen how they sometimes treat Providence guests, yet they still claim to be neutral friendly.
Eventually when The Internet. has finished wiping out the power blocks of New Eden, we will come for you , pay me 5 billion and all will be forgiven, for six whole months . |

Bekmambetov
Caldari Intergalactic Peace Organization Arcane Alliance
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Posted - 2009.02.08 01:46:00 -
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Originally by: Ikar Kaltin Arcane Alliance are KOS to CVA and all within Providence. Recently I was contacted by a pilot from Arcane who wished for them to be removed from KOS for piracy, our policys for redemption were explained and the pilot replied he was consulting with his alliance leadership.
I never heard anything more from either the pilot or from any other figure.
Arcane are KOS and are have been aware of that fact for a while. Complaining about being destroyed weeks after the facts accomplishes nothing. We will not pander to public complaints of pirates of the Empire and her Amarrian Providence.
This happened before I joined Arcane Alliance. I felt vulnerable without friends after this attack so I joined a corp.
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RedSplat
Caldari Heretic Army
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Posted - 2009.02.08 02:06:00 -
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Originally by: UWE B0LL Sev3rance are not very different from other Providence holding Alliances. Part of the agreement that holding alliances make with CVA is that neutrals and blues are allowed access to the area for ratting, mining etc and the Providence holders do well in keeping the area safe from the big bad people that come to shoot the happy happy carebears.
Now Sev3rance follow the general rules of Providence, but sometimes can be some of the biggest stuckup bastards in the region. A number of people I know who have lived in Providence, defending the area from the pirates and other hostiles, only to come under fire from Sev3rance for no good reason. They smack talk neutrals from time to time, again without good reason and are generally idiots. As for them participating in acts of piracy, well yeah under providence rules I suppose they do at times.
The other holders in Providence I find to be pretty good, now i isn't all Sev3rance members that are this way, just a minority in my opinion, sadly that minority is the majority of their leadership . Yeah I dislike these guys, with good reason, I have seen how they sometimes treat Providence guests, yet they still claim to be neutral friendly.
Pretty much.
By the by, such coherent and balanced posting is anathema to THE INTERNET. Its making me nervous.  |

UWE B0LL
Minmatar THE INTERNET.
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Posted - 2009.02.08 03:23:00 -
[42]
Originally by: RedSplat
Originally by: UWE B0LL Sev3rance are not very different from other Providence holding Alliances. Part of the agreement that holding alliances make with CVA is that neutrals and blues are allowed access to the area for ratting, mining etc and the Providence holders do well in keeping the area safe from the big bad people that come to shoot the happy happy carebears.
Now Sev3rance follow the general rules of Providence, but sometimes can be some of the biggest stuckup bastards in the region. A number of people I know who have lived in Providence, defending the area from the pirates and other hostiles, only to come under fire from Sev3rance for no good reason. They smack talk neutrals from time to time, again without good reason and are generally idiots. As for them participating in acts of piracy, well yeah under providence rules I suppose they do at times.
The other holders in Providence I find to be pretty good, now i isn't all Sev3rance members that are this way, just a minority in my opinion, sadly that minority is the majority of their leadership . Yeah I dislike these guys, with good reason, I have seen how they sometimes treat Providence guests, yet they still claim to be neutral friendly.
Pretty much.
By the by, such coherent and balanced posting is anathema to THE INTERNET. Its making me nervous. 
Yeah, thus the obligatory:
Originally by: UWE B0LL
Eventually when The Internet. has finished wiping out the power blocks of New Eden, we will come for you , pay me 5 billion and all will be forgiven, for six whole months .
Hopefully I wont be banished to the Drone Regions for a serious post  |

jarack
Caldari omen. Gay4Life
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Posted - 2009.02.08 03:31:00 -
[43]
This isn't just any Bantam, this is The Bantam Menace!! |

Morden Nok
Amarr Cohortes Vigilum Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2009.02.08 10:08:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Bekmambetov
Originally by: Ikar Kaltin Arcane Alliance are KOS to CVA and all within Providence. Recently I was contacted by a pilot from Arcane who wished for them to be removed from KOS for piracy, our policys for redemption were explained and the pilot replied he was consulting with his alliance leadership.
I never heard anything more from either the pilot or from any other figure.
Arcane are KOS and are have been aware of that fact for a while. Complaining about being destroyed weeks after the facts accomplishes nothing. We will not pander to public complaints of pirates of the Empire and her Amarrian Providence.
This happened before I joined Arcane Alliance. I felt vulnerable without friends after this attack so I joined a corp.
Please, your game has been up for long time. We've known for long time that you're an alt of Somal Thunder. It's also obvious that your goal was to stir things up by provoking aggression from -7- to make up diplomatic incident.
Unfortunately for you, there's absolutely nothing wrong in podding hostile alt. |

Angelia Holger
Amarr Husarian Loyalists
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Posted - 2009.02.08 11:30:00 -
[45]
Edited by: Angelia Holger on 08/02/2009 11:30:48 Edited by: Angelia Holger on 08/02/2009 11:30:15 Um, wait a second. Do I understand it right? You go to Provi, target a ship and run away to other system only to mess up with cargo containers there? And then cry out you were ship and podkilled? For heaven's sake, its like you had entered somebody's house, waved a fist on the owner in a manner suggesting he'll be hit in a moment and then ran away to other room and started looking what's in the drawers. Bet you would be pretty surprised if the owner of the house kicked your bottom? Guess you just learned the hard way. Now just learn not to whine.
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glassmanipulator
Minmatar Lucian Alliance Arcane Alliance
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Posted - 2009.02.08 12:08:00 -
[46]
I apologize for this person. lol and also, sorry Bekmambetov, but this thread made me giggle too 
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Bobbechk
Caldari The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.02.08 14:01:00 -
[47]
This cannot be accepted behaviour for a resident of NRDS space!
PL has been forced to meet this with total retraction from Delve campaign and instead will be holding up in this NRDS region enforcing the law (and drinking tee) ...
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Isaac Starstriker
Amarr Solaris Operations
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Posted - 2009.02.08 17:07:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Bobbechk This cannot be accepted behaviour for a resident of NRDS space!
PL has been forced to meet this with total retraction from Delve campaign and instead will be holding up in this NRDS region enforcing the law (and drinking tee)
This made me lol.
--Isaac |

Bekmambetov
Caldari Intergalactic Peace Organization Arcane Alliance
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Posted - 2009.02.08 17:26:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Morden Nok
Originally by: Bekmambetov
Originally by: Ikar Kaltin Arcane Alliance are KOS to CVA and all within Providence. Recently I was contacted by a pilot from Arcane who wished for them to be removed from KOS for piracy, our policys for redemption were explained and the pilot replied he was consulting with his alliance leadership.
I never heard anything more from either the pilot or from any other figure.
Arcane are KOS and are have been aware of that fact for a while. Complaining about being destroyed weeks after the facts accomplishes nothing. We will not pander to public complaints of pirates of the Empire and her Amarrian Providence.
This happened before I joined Arcane Alliance. I felt vulnerable without friends after this attack so I joined a corp.
Please, your game has been up for long time. We've known for long time that you're an alt of Somal Thunder. It's also obvious that your goal was to stir things up by provoking aggression from -7- to make up diplomatic incident.
Unfortunately for you, there's absolutely nothing wrong in podding hostile alt.
You know what, I kinda wish he was my alt, so I could ****ing own you guys! With all due respect though, I do know him in real life, he doesn't want to get involved with his. He gave me some cash for implants and skillbooks (invited me via the buddy program so he got 30 days free), he just told me to whine on the forums, and yeah you know what, that's what I'm doing! I want my ****ing implants back and even if I don't get them back, I can always say that I gave it a ****ing shot!
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Somal Thunder
Minmatar Intergalactic Peace Organization Arcane Alliance
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Posted - 2009.02.08 19:15:00 -
[50]
As much as I've been trying to stay out of this...
Although my altchars are of secret identity, Bekmambetov is not my alt. The character portraits on my login screen are indeed different enough to not be Bekmamvetov.
To boot, I've seen him/her online -- and why would I want to stir up diplomatic problems with CVA and -7-? I happen to have lived in Providence, it's not great, not worth fighting for or living in. TBH you can flame Bekmambetov all you like, but please leave me out of it.
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Kary Savage
Caldari Skyforger Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2009.02.08 19:34:00 -
[51]
ITS A BANTAM !!!! A FRICKIN BANTAAAAAAM !!!!!! THINK OF THE BANTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMMSSSSSSS !!!!!!!!!
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Ravin Abai
Amarr Cruoris Seraphim Exalted.
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Posted - 2009.02.08 20:08:00 -
[52]
pretty shameful tbh 
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Ace Frehley
Minmatar Ore Mongers
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Posted - 2009.02.08 21:07:00 -
[53]
f..k YEAH!! go amarrpower!! no wait I¦m minmatar, I did do wrong? |

Mara Devortex
Gallente Collegium Mechanicae Dominus Bellorum
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Posted - 2009.02.09 01:20:00 -
[54]
Let me get this straight..Op was in npc corp therefore was spy in eyes of -7- and got popped..Then Op joins Alliance that is Red and has been red with -7- and therefore confirms they where in fact spy.woot brilliant. |

A Sinner
Gallente THE MuPPeT FaCTOrY PuPPet MasTers
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Posted - 2009.02.09 01:57:00 -
[55]
Didn't know Arcane is allowed to post on caod. Please stop embarassing yourself, I really don't want to start feeling sorry for you guys and have second thoughts next time I push the trigger. ----------------------- "There are no ugly women, just men who didn't have enough to drink" |

Suitonia
Gallente interimo End of The Line.
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Posted - 2009.02.09 11:21:00 -
[56]
Originally by: UWE B0LL Sev3rance are not very different from other Providence holding Alliances. Part of the agreement that holding alliances make with CVA is that neutrals and blues are allowed access to the area for ratting, mining etc and the Providence holders do well in keeping the area safe from the big bad people that come to shoot the happy happy carebears.
Now Sev3rance follow the general rules of Providence, but sometimes can be some of the biggest stuckup bastards in the region. A number of people I know who have lived in Providence, defending the area from the pirates and other hostiles, only to come under fire from Sev3rance for no good reason. They smack talk neutrals from time to time, again without good reason and are generally idiots. As for them participating in acts of piracy, well yeah under providence rules I suppose they do at times.
The other holders in Providence I find to be pretty good, now i isn't all Sev3rance members that are this way, just a minority in my opinion, sadly that minority is the majority of their leadership . Yeah I dislike these guys, with good reason, I have seen how they sometimes treat Providence guests, yet they still claim to be neutral friendly.
This guy hit the nail on the head.
Sev3rance are the rudest of the holders, while they do follow the NRDS policy, they don't handle accidents well. They are really arrogent and hard to get in touch with alot of the time.
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Cyrrus Ex
Gallente Intergalactic Peace Organization Arcane Alliance
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Posted - 2009.02.09 11:30:00 -
[57]
This too made me slightly rofl. im sorry but you just dont roam into CVA space. |

RedSplat
Caldari Heretic Army
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Posted - 2009.02.09 11:51:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Cyrrus Ex roam into CVA space.
Please |

Sollana
Amarr Davy Jones Locker Enforcers of Serenity
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Posted - 2009.02.09 13:40:00 -
[59]
i would like to add a comment here.
CVA/-7-/LFA are honourable to the last, having spent time with these people in providence, i have come to know them through mutual respect and team work.
Same way as i have come to know some of the pirates within the game, thought respect for each other (o/ Gneeznow ).
The OP targetted a neutral? and then looted from a neutrals can..
no matter if you are neutral I would shoot you, i have in the past asked people to not loot, and when they continue i kill them, I personally operate NRDS, but without respect and manners your a pirate and auto red.......even if neutral.
Have respect for the people you see, even if your P###ed that they just wiped you out, and maybe they will hear your concerns rather than just another WTF i got pwned!!!! complaint.
be seeing you! |

Batousai Section9
Gallente Final Conflict UK
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Posted - 2009.02.09 13:45:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Bekmambetov
This happened before I joined Arcane Alliance. I felt vulnerable without friends after this attack so I joined a corp.
Ahahahahhaa
Haha
Did I mention haha, rofl. |

A Sinner
Gallente THE MuPPeT FaCTOrY PuPPet MasTers
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Posted - 2009.02.09 14:18:00 -
[61]
roaming in cva space is the best
Quote: CVA Friendly Farmer > why you shoot me ? u neutral !!!
----------------------- "There are no ugly women, just men who didn't have enough to drink" |

Marius Deterium
Caldari The Hull Miners Union Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2009.02.09 16:46:00 -
[62]
Is this seriously a thread crying about a bantham and set of +3 implants? For really? This is some funny ****. --- Mining hulls for the juicy goods inside.
Good...bad, I'm the guy with the gun. |

Bekmambetov
Caldari Intergalactic Peace Organization Arcane Alliance
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Posted - 2009.02.09 17:12:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Sollana i would like to add a comment here.
CVA/-7-/LFA are honourable to the last, having spent time with these people in providence, i have come to know them through mutual respect and team work.
Same way as i have come to know some of the pirates within the game, thought respect for each other (o/ Gneeznow ).
The OP targetted a neutral? and then looted from a neutrals can..
no matter if you are neutral I would shoot you, i have in the past asked people to not loot, and when they continue i kill them, I personally operate NRDS, but without respect and manners your a pirate and auto red.......even if neutral.
Have respect for the people you see, even if your P###ed that they just wiped you out, and maybe they will hear your concerns rather than just another WTF i got pwned!!!! complaint.
be seeing you!
Yeah at least you warn people, did I get warned? No, As I sat on the other gate, trying to pick a stargate to warp to, Mogandi snuck up on me from behind and shot me down!
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Forty Three
Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.02.09 17:52:00 -
[64]
Originally by: Cyrrus Ex This too made me slightly rofl. im sorry but you just dont roam into CVA space.
err, we do  |

Jon Rocks
Amarr Rothana Heavy Industries The Black Isle
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Posted - 2009.02.09 17:53:00 -
[65]
Quote: This happened before I joined Arcane Alliance. I felt vulnerable without friends after this attack so I joined a corp.
Good to know that Arcane is recruiting hardcore bantam pilots. |

Mithos Victus
Minmatar Aurelius Federation Apotheosis of Virtue
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Posted - 2009.02.09 18:54:00 -
[66]
First Mistake You did not set sovereign holder Alliances and their constituents with positive standing to filter them out of your overview, hell maybe you do not even have your overview set right from the start, that wouldn't be a stretch.
Second Mistake You then traveled to their space and proceeded to randomly target them while they had just engaged hostiles or were preparing an encampment for hostiles.
Third Mistake Pods can continue to spy. You were given a one way ticket to whatever rock you crawled out from when you were podded. To do otherwise would be invite further breaches in security. Assuming you were podded with the sole intent to cause you monetary loss is a fallacy at best. No one cares about your loss, for all they know you could have had +1 implants and a pink thong strapped to your head.
Fourth Mistake You assumed staying on grid with an active combat gang when you were neutral to them was a wise idea. It is not. When you see a camp, if you are not blue to the encampment you do not stick around, let alone target anyone. They are there to destroy infiltrators, and having a neutral sitting there eyeballing them is a breach of security whether you are the biggest flaming carebear in all of EVE or not.
Fifth Mistake Causing a fuss. You want to spend time in Providence as a random NPC neut? DON'T MAKE A FUSS. It is a courtesy for CVA to allow neutrals to rat, explore, and profit from their space. Learn some sense, or do not come back.
Sixth Mistake Joining a red alliance in spite. You will never shake spy status now. It was bad enough that you were lingering on grid during a combat operation and randomly targeted a combatant, but now that you have joined a red alliance, you might as well stay away unless you like being podded or chased to the ends of Providence.
Seventh Mistake You seem to have a greatly over exaggerated sense of self-importance. No one destroyed your T1 frigate and pod because they thought it of some profound significance or moral profundity. You were a neut in a newbie ship, you targeted an active combat gang, and you were eliminated. No one gave you a second thought, and you were probably forgotten ten minutes later.
The problem with neuts is that the ones in frigates, what are they doing there? What are you going to do in a Bantam, ping a couple rocks with a mining laser, and haul a few thousand ISK back to Empire? It is suspicious at best. Sure, a couple die hard ratters roam around in Rifters speed tanking the BS rats and making buck, but a Bantam? Seriously? Could you be more suspicious? |

Senator Bobatine
Amarr THE INTERNET. Goodfellas.
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Posted - 2009.02.09 19:15:00 -
[67]
Edited by: Senator Bobatine on 09/02/2009 19:15:36
Originally by: Mithos Victus Could you be more suspicious?
He could have been in a newb ship with his basic mining laser. --------------------------------------------
Now renting space in Delve. Eve mail me to find out how much you can get your own piece of the sweet Blood Raider life for! |

Bekmambetov
Caldari Intergalactic Peace Organization Arcane Alliance
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Posted - 2009.02.09 19:47:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Mithos Victus First Mistake You did not set sovereign holder Alliances and their constituents with positive standing to filter them out of your overview, hell maybe you do not even have your overview set right from the start, that wouldn't be a stretch.
Second Mistake You then traveled to their space and proceeded to randomly target them while they had just engaged hostiles or were preparing an encampment for hostiles.
Third Mistake Pods can continue to spy. You were given a one way ticket to whatever rock you crawled out from when you were podded. To do otherwise would be invite further breaches in security. Assuming you were podded with the sole intent to cause you monetary loss is a fallacy at best. No one cares about your loss, for all they know you could have had +1 implants and a pink thong strapped to your head.
Fourth Mistake You assumed staying on grid with an active combat gang when you were neutral to them was a wise idea. It is not. When you see a camp, if you are not blue to the encampment you do not stick around, let alone target anyone. They are there to destroy infiltrators, and having a neutral sitting there eyeballing them is a breach of security whether you are the biggest flaming carebear in all of EVE or not.
Fifth Mistake Causing a fuss. You want to spend time in Providence as a random NPC neut? DON'T MAKE A FUSS. It is a courtesy for CVA to allow neutrals to rat, explore, and profit from their space. Learn some sense, or do not come back.
Sixth Mistake Joining a red alliance in spite. You will never shake spy status now. It was bad enough that you were lingering on grid during a combat operation and randomly targeted a combatant, but now that you have joined a red alliance, you might as well stay away unless you like being podded or chased to the ends of Providence.
Seventh Mistake You seem to have a greatly over exaggerated sense of self-importance. No one destroyed your T1 frigate and pod because they thought it of some profound significance or moral profundity. You were a neut in a newbie ship, you targeted an active combat gang, and you were eliminated. No one gave you a second thought, and you were probably forgotten ten minutes later.
The problem with neuts is that the ones in frigates, what are they doing there? What are you going to do in a Bantam, ping a couple rocks with a mining laser, and haul a few thousand ISK back to Empire? It is suspicious at best. Sure, a couple die hard ratters roam around in Rifters speed tanking the BS rats and making buck, but a Bantam? Seriously? Could you be more suspicious?
I. No comment (I have abosolutely no idea how to set an alliance positive personally) II. I was actually on my way back after having lost another bantam to rats, there was nobody there on the way there and I seriously doubt some sort of camp would've been there on the way back. III. Market logs prove purchases without assets to back them up (only skillbooks and implants can be purchased without leaving an asset trail, unless the modules are fitted to a ship) IV. I tried to get away. I suppose everybody fits microwarpdrives on their bantams, and warp core stabilizers, to counter HIC's and warp disruptors. I don't even have the skills for a microwarpdrive yet! V. I tried NOT causing a fuss - it didn't work. VI. I didn't know Arcane was red, I just wanted to join something - and "lingering on grid" hardly applies when you're trying to warp to a stargate but you're scrambled. VII. A bantam is not a newbie ship, it's a mining frigate. Additionally, see your sentence "No one gave you a second thought, and you were probably forgotten ten minutes later." - This is not CVA policy, if it were, CVA would be NBSI.
You might find it notable to mention that I've been told ratting in frigates gets you like 5 mil an hour tops... Mining the rocks I found returned... about 500k in 15 minutes, not bad.
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Mithos Victus
Minmatar Aurelius Federation Apotheosis of Virtue
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Posted - 2009.02.09 20:15:00 -
[69]
Edited by: Mithos Victus on 09/02/2009 20:17:17
Originally by: Bekmambetov
I. No comment (I have abosolutely no idea how to set an alliance positive personally)

Originally by: Bekmambetov
II. I was actually on my way back after having lost another bantam to rats, there was nobody there on the way there and I seriously doubt some sort of camp would've been there on the way back.
Why not?
Originally by: Bekmambetov
III. Market logs prove purchases without assets to back them up (only skillbooks and implants can be purchased without leaving an asset trail, unless the modules are fitted to a ship)
The logs are not foolproof, and even with your full API, things can get conveniently misplaced.
Originally by: Bekmambetov
IV. I tried to get away. I suppose everybody fits microwarpdrives on their bantams, and warp core stabilizers, to counter HIC's and warp disruptors. I don't even have the skills for a microwarpdrive yet!
I suppose everybody zips around in ships they can't afford to lose or are attached to with implants they can't replace and randomly targets active combat gangs on the hunt for hostiles in the area.
Originally by: Bekmambetov
V. I tried NOT causing a fuss - it didn't work.
So you did what, came on here and wrote an inflammatory generalization about the entirety of Providence based on what is already a known and practiced policy that you were not aware of to begin with and now want to be compensated for said ignorance?
Originally by: Bekmambetov
VI. I didn't know Arcane was red, I just wanted to join something - and "lingering on grid" hardly applies when you're trying to warp to a stargate but you're scrambled.
If you had enough time to break gate cloak, target a ship, realize you might have messed up, and spend time "deciding" as you said which stargate to warp to, that's lingering.
But for argument's sake, please provide the timecode entries from your logs as to when you entered the local system and when you were scrambled.
Originally by: Bekmambetov
VII. A bantam is not a newbie ship, it's a mining frigate. Additionally, see your sentence "No one gave you a second thought, and you were probably forgotten ten minutes later." - This is not CVA policy, if it were, CVA would be NBSI.
NRDS. You took a hostile action, you were immediately eliminated due to this hostile action. This is the policy.
By engaging in a hostile act, you were then responded to with hostility. I would assume this is rather simple to understand.
Originally by: Bekmambetov
You might find it notable to mention that I've been told ratting in frigates gets you like 5 mil an hour tops... Mining the rocks I found returned... about 500k in 15
Training to use a cruiser or battlecruiser and fitting a salvager earns you 75mil an hour when the chains are good in a quiet system. Your point? _______________________________________________
[...a lion lurking in the plain] |

glassmanipulator
Minmatar Lucian Alliance Arcane Alliance
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Posted - 2009.02.10 00:29:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Jon Rocks
Quote: This happened before I joined Arcane Alliance. I felt vulnerable without friends after this attack so I joined a corp.
Good to know that Arcane is recruiting hardcore bantam pilots.
ROFL I about pee`d myself, again. |

Ocih
Amarr Clan Shadow Wolf Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2009.02.10 02:53:00 -
[71]
The proper thing to do would have been to file a KOS request.
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Ackaroth
Gallente Noir.
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Posted - 2009.02.10 04:41:00 -
[72]
Originally by: jarack This isn't just any Bantam, this is The Bantam Menace!!
I lol'd. To OP: Welcome to EVE? Space isnt supposed to be safe. Its cold and mean and ruthless. Wear a helmet. |

StainLessStealRat
Caldari Legio V Fidelus Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2009.02.10 06:28:00 -
[73]
As a providance resident i can truly say if you are in an NPC corp you will not be shot on sight.But you target some one and intel is quiet you will be chased and shot buy some of the more Gun ho player. i rememberthis when it was reported in intel and as i recall there was some smak comming out of that bantam aswell
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Octavinus Augustus
Amarr Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2009.02.10 13:05:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Forty Three
Originally by: Cyrrus Ex This too made me slightly rofl. im sorry but you just dont roam into CVA space.
err, we do 
You do?
Oh, come on. That snipe is so obvious I just couldn't resist. Besides you're all busy doing something down in Catch as I understand it.
Q: How do you make a disobedient Minmatar slave scream? A: Skin it and roll it in salt. |

Algey
Caldari The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.02.10 14:07:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Octavinus Augustus
Originally by: Forty Three
Originally by: Cyrrus Ex This too made me slightly rofl. im sorry but you just dont roam into CVA space.
err, we do 
You do?
Oh, come on. That snipe is so obvious I just couldn't resist. Besides you're all busy doing something down in Catch as I understand it.
Catch has been a bit of fun lately, but we still love you enough that you'll not be left out 
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Bekmambetov
Caldari Intergalactic Peace Organization Arcane Alliance
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Posted - 2009.02.10 16:08:00 -
[76]
I. After further inspection I don't think it's actually possible. Fail on your part? II. Seeing as ALL the systems on the way except one was empty I wasn't expecting an ambush. III. Yes, I'm sure I'd trash some implants... That'd be smart. IV. Your sarcasm fails to amaze me. (You do make a good point though, horrible way of putting it). V. Generally I'd contest, but you're not that far off the truth. VI. http://throstur.110mb.com/killboard/Bekmambetov3/20090202_233008.txt Read it, log was included in the original post. I was obviously chased as I was shot in multiple systems. VII. TBH, if a mining frigate targets you and IMMEDIATELY after that jumps, do you automatically the mining frigate is hostile? If yes, please revamp your intelligence attributes in the next patch and and up your social skills.
Originally by: Mithos Victus Training to use a cruiser or battlecruiser and fitting a salvager earns you 75mil an hour when the chains are good in a quiet system. Your point?
My point is that I'd just arrived in the system, it wasn't too quiet, none of the rats I saw were over 850k and I'm still finishing up my learning skills (as opposed to training cruiser and support skills up) |

Mithos Victus
Minmatar Aurelius Federation Apotheosis of Virtue
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Posted - 2009.02.10 20:07:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Bekmambetov stuff
You can set standing to corporations as an NPC neutral, it takes a little extra work, but we're not that lazy, right?
It depends, there are two viable options.
One, you had a ship scanner fitted, and you were going to scan the layout of one of the key ships in the gang, thus allowing docked reds in a near system to refit accordingly.
Or two, you had a buffer tank on a Bantam with a scram, and you were going to sacrifice yourself just long enough to distract the gang while your own red gang jumped system and warped on point, dropped a HIC or bubble, and killed everyone in sight because they had aggression from engaging you.
Your ship cost what, under 500k? It is expendable to the extreme. How much did the combined fleet you were on grid with cost? Half a bil? A couple bil? Think about it.
What reason did they have for not treating your act as hostile? Should everyone stop, wait, and pause to parlay with a neutral person who target locks them while they are on combat operations, what would EVE be like?
Cap'n Fruity: "Ensign, is that a target lock I see from that rusty mining ship off the port side?" Ensign Giggles: "Sir, yes sir! Orders sir?" Cap'n Fruity: "Let us enter into dialog with the lowly space faring stranger even as a fleet of our enemies may be bearing down upon us as we speak! To the comms!" Rusty Miner: "Duhhhh h'yuck, c'mon boys, the prize awaits!" *scrambles target* Pirates: YARR!!!! TO THE VICTOR GO THE MIGHTY SPOILS AND BOOTY OF WAR!!!1!1
Yea, so does this sound like your EVE?  _______________________________________________
[...a lion lurking in the plain] |

Korlock
Amarr Burning Technologies Dara Cothrom
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Posted - 2009.02.10 23:37:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Angelia Holger Edited by: Angelia Holger on 08/02/2009 11:30:48 Edited by: Angelia Holger on 08/02/2009 11:30:15 Um, wait a second. Do I understand it right? You go to Provi, target a ship and run away to other system only to mess up with cargo containers there? And then cry out you were ship and podkilled? For heaven's sake, its like you had entered somebody's house, waved a fist on the owner in a manner suggesting he'll be hit in a moment and then ran away to other room and started looking what's in the drawers. Bet you would be pretty surprised if the owner of the house kicked your bottom? Guess you just learned the hard way. Now just learn not to whine.
This is like the best analogy ever |

Isaac Starstriker
Amarr Solaris Operations
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Posted - 2009.02.11 00:06:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Korlock
Originally by: Angelia Holger Edited by: Angelia Holger on 08/02/2009 11:30:48 Edited by: Angelia Holger on 08/02/2009 11:30:15 Um, wait a second. Do I understand it right? You go to Provi, target a ship and run away to other system only to mess up with cargo containers there? And then cry out you were ship and podkilled? For heaven's sake, its like you had entered somebody's house, waved a fist on the owner in a manner suggesting he'll be hit in a moment and then ran away to other room and started looking what's in the drawers. Bet you would be pretty surprised if the owner of the house kicked your bottom? Guess you just learned the hard way. Now just learn not to whine.
This is like the best analogy ever
Quoting because both are right.
L2P idiot OP
--Isaac Isaac's Haul*Mart
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Xennith
Caldari Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.02.11 00:47:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Octavinus Augustus Besides you're all busy doing something down in Catch as I understand it.
kicking ass, taking names. getting blobbed. kicking ass anyway.
its good fun atm tbh. some really great fights going on. |

Somal Thunder
Minmatar Intergalactic Peace Organization Arcane Alliance
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Posted - 2009.02.11 01:30:00 -
[81]
Edited by: Somal Thunder on 11/02/2009 01:31:43 I'm having Bekmambetov kicked out of Arcane for this just so you know, please stop dissing our alliance because we decided to trust him instead of running an API check on him.
EDIT: He/She/It can't even use warp scramblers, we found out yesterday. |

Scagga Laebetrovo
Minmatar Ammatar Free Corps
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Posted - 2009.02.11 13:38:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Isaac Starstriker
Originally by: Korlock
Originally by: Angelia Holger Edited by: Angelia Holger on 08/02/2009 11:30:48 Edited by: Angelia Holger on 08/02/2009 11:30:15 Um, wait a second. Do I understand it right? You go to Provi, target a ship and run away to other system only to mess up with cargo containers there? And then cry out you were ship and podkilled? For heaven's sake, its like you had entered somebody's house, waved a fist on the owner in a manner suggesting he'll be hit in a moment and then ran away to other room and started looking what's in the drawers. Bet you would be pretty surprised if the owner of the house kicked your bottom? Guess you just learned the hard way. Now just learn not to whine.
This is like the best analogy ever
Quoting because both are right.
L2P idiot OP
--Isaac
Quoting this for truth.
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Mithos Victus
Minmatar Aurelius Federation Apotheosis of Virtue
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Posted - 2009.02.11 14:13:00 -
[83]
Edited by: Mithos Victus on 11/02/2009 14:13:53
Originally by: Somal Thunder Edited by: Somal Thunder on 11/02/2009 01:31:43 I'm having Bekmambetov kicked out of Arcane for this just so you know, please stop dissing our alliance because we decided to trust him instead of running an API check on him.
EDIT: He/She/It can't even use warp scramblers, we found out yesterday.
Fair enough, everyone picks up a bad egg now and then. What matters is that this person seems incapable of admitting error or learning from mistakes when the resounding response, even from sides at opposition with Providence residents are saying this is ridiculous.
Some people will claim they were right until the last breath they take, even as evidence to the contrary closes in around them. It's almost pathological in some ways. _______________________________________________
[...a lion lurking in the plain] |

O Thief
Amarr The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.02.11 15:36:00 -
[84]
I cannot sleep easy until the Bantam has been avenged. On the forums.
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Earthy
Gallente R.E.C.O.N.
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Posted - 2009.02.11 18:10:00 -
[85]
k
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FOl2TY8
Gallente Revolutionary United Front Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2009.02.12 00:45:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Somal Thunder Edited by: Somal Thunder on 11/02/2009 01:31:43 I'm having Bekmambetov kicked out of Arcane for this just so you know, please stop dissing our alliance because we decided to trust him instead of running an API check on him.
EDIT: He/She/It can't even use warp scramblers, we found out yesterday.
To the OP: dude... if you had just sucked up the loss and carried on you would still have some e-face salvaged. Now you are all alone sans +3 implants and your almighty Bantam. ---------- This post brought to you by the worst PVP'er in Eve, 48. |

RED 5N4kE
Gallente Distant Light Galactic Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2009.05.06 22:05:00 -
[87]
0.0 space is really not a place for newbies. especially newbies in an npc corp. they always end up whining like this. i would say its ok if the newbie is in a player corp since he/she will have someone as a guidance to tell him/her of the do's and dont's. CCP makes the empire space safe for a reason...to protect newbie like this. the safe empire space, the rookie channel, the help channel, the adoption channel and a lot more other guides and wikis are there to help newbies learn in the new world of eve. but for you...you decided to learn things the hard way. and you fall due to your bold stupid action. its a simple concept.....cause and effect. you refuse to learn the proper way and thus you learned the hard way. and a little respect wont hurt you know.
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Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2009.05.06 22:08:00 -
[88]
Nice Necro Thar ______________________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
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Courthouse
Caldari Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.05.06 22:08:00 -
[89]
Edited by: Courthouse on 06/05/2009 22:08:48 Nice thread necro.
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RedSplat
Caldari Heretic Army Heretic Nation
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Posted - 2009.05.06 22:30:00 -
[90]
You should see the carnage when Sev. runs remote rep gangs.
Originally by: CCP Mitnal
I don't sleep. I am always here. Watching. Waiting.
Originally by: CCP Mitnal it does get progressively longer.
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Graelyn
Amarr Deus Imperiosus Acies
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Posted - 2009.05.06 22:41:00 -
[91]
The best part?
Every single person posting here has offered many, many reasons why you are WRONG.
You are convinced that ALL of these veteran players are WRONG, and that you are still RIGHT.
This indicates that you do not learn from mistakes, that you place blame on external factors anytime you screw up.
Your new alliance is making a bad investment...just saying....
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Chadstick
Gallente Smegnet Incorporated Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2009.05.06 23:33:00 -
[92]
Originally by: Graelyn The best part?
Every single person posting here has offered many, many reasons why you are WRONG.
You are convinced that ALL of these veteran players are WRONG, and that you are still RIGHT.
This indicates that you do not learn from mistakes, that you place blame on external factors anytime you screw up.
Your new alliance is making a bad investment...just saying....
No, the best part is people continuing to drag this thread up to kick it in the nuts.
In 2-3 months time I'm guessing the op has probably learned something about being in null-sec space. -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
Crumplecorn's DesuSigs |

Gixxer 1000
Caldari Ceptacemia Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2009.05.07 02:44:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Bekmambetov
Originally by: Garreck It is policy to treat targetting in 0.0 as an act of aggression. If a bantam tagetted -7- vessels in -7- space as I understand from the OP did in fact take place, they did not step outside the rules by eleminating the bantam.
If this is the OP's definition of piracy, I'm afraid I'm at a loss for words. Please do be more careful in the future.
I'd like to point out that this isn't about the bantam at all, it's about the capsule. Does a pod really cause a threat in NRDS space?
Its called killboard padding, something CVA and friends to with a lot of pride. It just goes to show you how weak the people involved in this act actually were, for they were scared of a Bantam!
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CHAOS100
Gallente Widowmakers
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Posted - 2009.05.07 03:36:00 -
[94]
holy bump captain --------------
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SoD EnGun
Gallente Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.05.07 08:47:00 -
[95]
Originally by: Cyrrus Ex This too made me slightly rofl. im sorry but you just dont roam into CVA space.
Yes you do.
Oh and about the bantam tragedy. I guess AA forgot to tell the poor guy that in 0.0 space one eventually gets poded.
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Sneakybustard
Minmatar Sigillum Militum Xpisti Novus Ordo Mundi
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Posted - 2009.05.07 09:46:00 -
[96]
big lols to severance... what a joke alliance they are. go to real space and see how long ou can hold to it..
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Wotlankor
Caldari Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.05.07 11:10:00 -
[97]
Originally by: RED 5N4kE Lotsa stuff
Are you guys in any way related to SSI ?
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SwindonBadger
Gallente 0utbreak KrautbreaK
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Posted - 2009.05.07 13:04:00 -
[98]
Just hoping that the 372 damage taken (all from one crusader) was a one volly afair or this looks bad for the rest of the gang.
u might want a damage control on your bantom so that if a pilot (not in this case) was to make a mistake atleast they a few seconds to unlock you before second volly ^^
Update..
"You must be within 1500 meters from the container to open it." < hope u wernt trying to be naughty ^^
[ 2009.02.02 23:30:18 ] (combat) benlee1977 [-AOV-]<-7-> misses you. [ 2009.02.02 23:30:18 ] (combat) benlee1977 [-AOV-]<-7-> misses you. [ 2009.02.02 23:30:20 ] (combat) benlee1977 [-AOV-]<-7-> misses you. [ 2009.02.02 23:30:21 ] (combat) Mogandi [EUDA]<-7-> misses you.
ect ect ... disapointed :(
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Invelious
Amarr Deus Imperiosus Acies
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Posted - 2009.05.07 14:00:00 -
[99]
Why is this thread still active, this is old news and pointless, the OP is ******ed
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arbiter reborn
Caldari THE FINAL STAND
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Posted - 2009.05.07 14:04:00 -
[100]
zomg the sky is a falling
glad there isnt a thread for every act of providence piracy
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Honest Nonlabor
Amarr Knights of Forsaken Angels
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Posted - 2009.05.07 17:06:00 -
[101]
Originally by: arbiter reborn
glad there isnt a thread for every act of providence piracy
There is no piracy in Providence, only liberal reclamation of belongings 
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.05.07 19:03:00 -
[102]
Quote:
0.0 space is really not a place for newbies. especially newbies in an npc corp.
Forums is really not a place for necros, expecially necros with a 1337 name.
Anyway, for the posterity:
Quote:
So targeting is an act of aggression. So I didn't know ctrl+click targets.
Darwin is an harsh teacher.
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cheesyhead
Minmatar Cruoris Seraphim Exalted.
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Posted - 2009.05.08 05:55:00 -
[103]
Let us all give a minute of our time for this poor, poor pilot.
*they killed a bantam, those bastards..
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Privavarian
Gallente THE IRIS
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Posted - 2009.05.08 09:02:00 -
[104]
give CVA a break.. Rules are there to be broken, go stuff yourselves :D ---- *giggle* |

S1GGY
Amarr Morbid Obssesion
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Posted - 2009.05.08 12:04:00 -
[105]
This might have been original 2 years ago...............
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Krystian
Caldari Clown Punchers. Clown Punchers Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.05.08 14:50:00 -
[106]
Edited by: Krystian on 08/05/2009 14:50:08 Lamest worst trolling I have ever had the displeasure to read. Like listening to Saul from the Jerky Boys trying to do a very bad joke and be serious about it. CVA find some new pirates this bunch fails. Oh and Aralis is still the space Pope!
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Bismaru's Ambition
Amarr Trigrams Edge
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Posted - 2009.05.08 15:00:00 -
[107]
FIXED: CVA OBLIVIOUS TO SEV3RANCE ACTS OF GAY ****OGRAPHY!
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Fenix Zealot
Caldari Aeon Of Strife Skunk-Works
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Posted - 2009.05.08 15:49:00 -
[108]
Never believe everything you hear... If i told you Razor was NRDS would you fly out to their space in a bantam as well? En Taro Adun! |

Elite28
Caldari Eve Liberation Force Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2009.05.08 18:59:00 -
[109]
Edited by: Elite28 on 08/05/2009 18:59:43
Originally by: Fenix Zealot Never believe everything you hear... If i told you Razor was NRDS would you fly out to their space in a bantam as well?
Holy crap, I would be all over that. I can't resist from mining in a bantam
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Adamai
Gallente Naval Protection Corp True Intentions
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Posted - 2009.05.10 03:20:00 -
[110]
wow safe 0.0 space who would have thought?
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Yarik Mendel
Amarr Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2009.05.10 04:22:00 -
[111]
I cannot believe these accusations because from our experiences with Sev3rance in war decs, they never showed any combat eagerness.
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Chellfire
Minmatar Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.05.10 06:55:00 -
[112]
I want to know how big the instalocking blob was..... the Bantum is a tough nut to crack.
We all know Sev won't fight unless they have at least 10:1 ship ratio in their favour.

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squishinator
Gallente Arcana Imperii Ltd. Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.05.10 07:15:00 -
[113]
Originally by: Chellfire I want to know how big the instalocking blob was..... the Bantum is a tough nut to crack.
We all know Sev won't fight unless they have at least 10:1 ship ratio in their favour.
10:1 odds ? I were U I'd felt being insulted, last time, it was 164:9, those are the odds to be proud of by the providence hords
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Suitonia
Gallente Genos Occidere The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2009.05.10 09:35:00 -
[114]
Originally by: Yarik Mendel I cannot believe these accusations because from our experiences with Sev3rance in war decs, they never showed any combat eagerness.
Unfortunatly for sev3rance Privateers fly bigger ships than Bantams.
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Forty Three
Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.05.10 11:32:00 -
[115]
Originally by: Suitonia
Originally by: Yarik Mendel I cannot believe these accusations because from our experiences with Sev3rance in war decs, they never showed any combat eagerness.
Unfortunatly for sev3rance Privateers fly bigger ships than Bantams.
the nerve!!!  -----------------------------------------------
UNITY!!!
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mr passie
Minmatar Purgatorial Janitors Inc. Avarice.
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Posted - 2009.05.10 11:34:00 -
[116]
Edited by: mr passie on 10/05/2009 11:34:44 I vote for sticky!
PJI is recruiting! visit ingame channel "purgatorium" for details |

Privavarian
Gallente THE IRIS
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Posted - 2009.05.10 22:05:00 -
[117]
Originally by: mr passie Edited by: mr passie on 10/05/2009 11:34:44 I vote for sticky!
I vote for the immediate disband of your alliance because quite honestly, who are you? ---- *giggle* |

Octavinus Augustus
Amarr Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2009.05.11 11:01:00 -
[118]
Originally by: Fenix Zealot Never believe everything you hear... If i told you Razor was NRDS would you fly out to their space in a bantam as well?
No, I'd fill up my favourite hauler with dysporite and go prancing about in their space chanting "Can't touch this" in local.
Q: How do you make a disobedient Minmatar slave scream? A: Skin it and roll it in salt. |

Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.05.11 14:39:00 -
[119]
BTW, I just found out something that imho really reeks of lame.
A guy I know has briefly been in a CVA "KOS" corporation (which disbanded afterwards, it's 2006 stuff).
Even then, he recently came with his current small corp "tag" in CVA lands (so you can't say he was in NPC corp => suspect), positive sec, non red flagged. He ratted in peace, did his stuff, did not lock anyone. He docked.
After undocking, he found himself being turned "red", immediately got attacked (iirc by Severance people) and the station setup to refuse to let him dock again, so he got killed.
So, basically, if a new player joins a KOS "vetoed" corp, is he surely, forever doomed to be made red at will and actively hunted as he crosses CVA's borders even with never showing any bad attitude vs them?
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Suitonia
Gallente Genos Occidere The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2009.05.11 15:33:00 -
[120]
Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha BTW, I just found out something that imho really reeks of lame.
A guy I know has briefly been in a CVA "KOS" corporation (which disbanded afterwards, it's 2006 stuff).
Even then, he recently came with his current small corp "tag" in CVA lands (so you can't say he was in NPC corp => suspect), positive sec, non red flagged. He ratted in peace, did his stuff, did not lock anyone. He docked.
After undocking, he found himself being turned "red", immediately got attacked (iirc by Severance people) and the station setup to refuse to let him dock again, so he got killed.
So, basically, if a new player joins a KOS "vetoed" corp, is he surely, forever doomed to be made red at will and actively hunted as he crosses CVA's borders even with never showing any bad attitude vs them?
Being in an gatecamping alliance is incredibly boring, even more so if you are in an NRDS gatecamping alliance, so it wouldn't suprise me if they nitpicked to find reasons to set someone red to destroy them.
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.05.12 07:36:00 -
[121]
Originally by: Suitonia Being in an gatecamping alliance is incredibly boring, even more so if you are in an NRDS gatecamping alliance, so it wouldn't suprise me if they nitpicked to find reasons to set someone red to destroy them.
I thought they were some pacific and sometime RP players 
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Hagen Stein
Minmatar Mystic Lion Hearts Sev3rance
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Posted - 2009.05.12 10:43:00 -
[122]
Originally by: Bekmambetov
Originally by: Garreck It is policy to treat targetting in 0.0 as an act of aggression. If a bantam tagetted -7- vessels in -7- space as I understand from the OP did in fact take place, they did not step outside the rules by eleminating the bantam.
If this is the OP's definition of piracy, I'm afraid I'm at a loss for words. Please do be more careful in the future.
I'd like to point out that this isn't about the bantam at all, it's about the capsule. Does a pod really cause a threat in NRDS space?
Yes it is, as a pod pilot still can give out intel to hostiles. You jumped into a gate camp, this means hostiles were around. We don't hug gates out of boredom, after all.
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Namelessness
Amarr KINGS OF EDEN Sev3rance
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Posted - 2009.05.12 14:31:00 -
[123]
Piracy is a war-like act committed by a non-state actor, especially robbery or criminal violence committed at sea, on a river, or sometimes on shore. It does not normally include crimes on board a vessel among passengers or crew. The term has been used to refer to raids across land borders by nonstate actors. Piracy should be distinguished from privateering, which was a legitimate form of war-like activity by nonstate actors, authorized by their national authorities, until this form of commerce raiding was outlawed in the 19th century.
will the real pirate please stand up?  
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.05.12 14:46:00 -
[124]
Quote:
Piracy is a war-like act committed by a non-state actor, especially robbery or criminal violence committed at sea, on a river, or sometimes on shore....
Does this mean: "we'll pod you even years after you quit a KOS corp and show no sign of hostility" or not?
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Conlin
Gallente Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.05.13 02:21:00 -
[125]
I care not for a single bantam pilot who flies through 0.0 space with auto lock on . Youl,l find the real reason for some severance attacking nuetrals in providence , is the NRDS policy they are forced to adhere to by CVA . Hence the exodus of numerous pilots from the alliance in the past month . I wont name names , but I have had several ex severance pilots contact me , and inform me as to why they left . Their is animosity in the ranks to this policy . Will it be the end of CVA's dream to have Providence as an extension to the Amarrian Empire ?, only time will tell .
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Major Templar
Caldari Knights Templar Defender's Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2009.05.13 03:10:00 -
[126]
Kill this thread because it's old news and lame. Their rules are their rules. The Bantam pilot locked a -7- pilot and was sent home via podding. Let him think about it as a courtesy that they helped him get home so fast.
Lesson learned, don't lock people in 0.0 when they control that space.
Major Templar Knights Templar Defender's [-KTD-] Diplomat, Industrial Commander, General |

Privavarian
Gallente THE IRIS
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Posted - 2009.05.13 05:44:00 -
[127]
Originally by: Major Templar Kill this thread because it's old news and lame. Their rules are their rules. The Bantam pilot locked a -7- pilot and was sent home via podding. Let him think about it as a courtesy that they helped him get home so fast.
Lesson learned, don't lock people in 0.0 when they control that space.
I agree.. Delete this thread.. CVA are not relevant in EVE Politics because of their NRDS policy. Want some easy kills go roam in providence.. thats all. ---- *giggle* |
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