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A Sinner Gallente THE MuPPeT FaCTOrY PuPPet MasTers	Posted - 2009.02.09 14:18:00 - [61] roaming in cva space is the best Quote: CVA Friendly Farmer > why you shoot me ? u neutral !!! ----------------------- "There are no ugly women, just men who didn't have enough to drink"
Marius Deterium Caldari The Hull Miners Union Exquisite Malevolence	Posted - 2009.02.09 16:46:00 - [62] Is this seriously a thread crying about a bantham and set of +3 implants? For really? This is some funny ****. --- Mining hulls for the juicy goods inside. Good...bad, I'm the guy with the gun.
Bekmambetov Caldari Intergalactic Peace Organization Arcane Alliance	Posted - 2009.02.09 17:12:00 - [63] Originally by: Sollana i would like to add a comment here. CVA/-7-/LFA are honourable to the last, having spent time with these people in providence, i have come to know them through mutual respect and team work. Same way as i have come to know some of the pirates within the game, thought respect for each other (o/ Gneeznow ). The OP targetted a neutral? and then looted from a neutrals can.. no matter if you are neutral I would shoot you, i have in the past asked people to not loot, and when they continue i kill them, I personally operate NRDS, but without respect and manners your a pirate and auto red.......even if neutral. Have respect for the people you see, even if your P###ed that they just wiped you out, and maybe they will hear your concerns rather than just another WTF i got pwned!!!! complaint. be seeing you! Yeah at least you warn people, did I get warned? No, As I sat on the other gate, trying to pick a stargate to warp to, Mogandi snuck up on me from behind and shot me down!
Forty Three Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.02.09 17:52:00 - [64] Originally by: Cyrrus Ex This too made me slightly rofl. im sorry but you just dont roam into CVA space. err, we do
Jon Rocks Amarr Rothana Heavy Industries The Black Isle	Posted - 2009.02.09 17:53:00 - [65] Quote: This happened before I joined Arcane Alliance. I felt vulnerable without friends after this attack so I joined a corp. Good to know that Arcane is recruiting hardcore bantam pilots.
Mithos Victus Minmatar Aurelius Federation Apotheosis of Virtue	Posted - 2009.02.09 18:54:00 - [66] First Mistake You did not set sovereign holder Alliances and their constituents with positive standing to filter them out of your overview, hell maybe you do not even have your overview set right from the start, that wouldn't be a stretch. Second Mistake You then traveled to their space and proceeded to randomly target them while they had just engaged hostiles or were preparing an encampment for hostiles. Third Mistake Pods can continue to spy. You were given a one way ticket to whatever rock you crawled out from when you were podded. To do otherwise would be invite further breaches in security. Assuming you were podded with the sole intent to cause you monetary loss is a fallacy at best. No one cares about your loss, for all they know you could have had +1 implants and a pink thong strapped to your head. Fourth Mistake You assumed staying on grid with an active combat gang when you were neutral to them was a wise idea. It is not. When you see a camp, if you are not blue to the encampment you do not stick around, let alone target anyone. They are there to destroy infiltrators, and having a neutral sitting there eyeballing them is a breach of security whether you are the biggest flaming carebear in all of EVE or not. Fifth Mistake Causing a fuss. You want to spend time in Providence as a random NPC neut? DON'T MAKE A FUSS. It is a courtesy for CVA to allow neutrals to rat, explore, and profit from their space. Learn some sense, or do not come back. Sixth Mistake Joining a red alliance in spite. You will never shake spy status now. It was bad enough that you were lingering on grid during a combat operation and randomly targeted a combatant, but now that you have joined a red alliance, you might as well stay away unless you like being podded or chased to the ends of Providence. Seventh Mistake You seem to have a greatly over exaggerated sense of self-importance. No one destroyed your T1 frigate and pod because they thought it of some profound significance or moral profundity. You were a neut in a newbie ship, you targeted an active combat gang, and you were eliminated. No one gave you a second thought, and you were probably forgotten ten minutes later. The problem with neuts is that the ones in frigates, what are they doing there? What are you going to do in a Bantam, ping a couple rocks with a mining laser, and haul a few thousand ISK back to Empire? It is suspicious at best. Sure, a couple die hard ratters roam around in Rifters speed tanking the BS rats and making buck, but a Bantam? Seriously? Could you be more suspicious?
Senator Bobatine Amarr THE INTERNET. Goodfellas.	Posted - 2009.02.09 19:15:00 - [67] Edited by: Senator Bobatine on 09/02/2009 19:15:36 Originally by: Mithos Victus Could you be more suspicious? He could have been in a newb ship with his basic mining laser. -------------------------------------------- Now renting space in Delve. Eve mail me to find out how much you can get your own piece of the sweet Blood Raider life for!
Bekmambetov Caldari Intergalactic Peace Organization Arcane Alliance	Posted - 2009.02.09 19:47:00 - [68] Originally by: Mithos Victus First Mistake You did not set sovereign holder Alliances and their constituents with positive standing to filter them out of your overview, hell maybe you do not even have your overview set right from the start, that wouldn't be a stretch. Second Mistake You then traveled to their space and proceeded to randomly target them while they had just engaged hostiles or were preparing an encampment for hostiles. Third Mistake Pods can continue to spy. You were given a one way ticket to whatever rock you crawled out from when you were podded. To do otherwise would be invite further breaches in security. Assuming you were podded with the sole intent to cause you monetary loss is a fallacy at best. No one cares about your loss, for all they know you could have had +1 implants and a pink thong strapped to your head. Fourth Mistake You assumed staying on grid with an active combat gang when you were neutral to them was a wise idea. It is not. When you see a camp, if you are not blue to the encampment you do not stick around, let alone target anyone. They are there to destroy infiltrators, and having a neutral sitting there eyeballing them is a breach of security whether you are the biggest flaming carebear in all of EVE or not. Fifth Mistake Causing a fuss. You want to spend time in Providence as a random NPC neut? DON'T MAKE A FUSS. It is a courtesy for CVA to allow neutrals to rat, explore, and profit from their space. Learn some sense, or do not come back. Sixth Mistake Joining a red alliance in spite. You will never shake spy status now. It was bad enough that you were lingering on grid during a combat operation and randomly targeted a combatant, but now that you have joined a red alliance, you might as well stay away unless you like being podded or chased to the ends of Providence. Seventh Mistake You seem to have a greatly over exaggerated sense of self-importance. No one destroyed your T1 frigate and pod because they thought it of some profound significance or moral profundity. You were a neut in a newbie ship, you targeted an active combat gang, and you were eliminated. No one gave you a second thought, and you were probably forgotten ten minutes later. The problem with neuts is that the ones in frigates, what are they doing there? What are you going to do in a Bantam, ping a couple rocks with a mining laser, and haul a few thousand ISK back to Empire? It is suspicious at best. Sure, a couple die hard ratters roam around in Rifters speed tanking the BS rats and making buck, but a Bantam? Seriously? Could you be more suspicious? I. No comment (I have abosolutely no idea how to set an alliance positive personally) II. I was actually on my way back after having lost another bantam to rats, there was nobody there on the way there and I seriously doubt some sort of camp would've been there on the way back. III. Market logs prove purchases without assets to back them up (only skillbooks and implants can be purchased without leaving an asset trail, unless the modules are fitted to a ship) IV. I tried to get away. I suppose everybody fits microwarpdrives on their bantams, and warp core stabilizers, to counter HIC's and warp disruptors. I don't even have the skills for a microwarpdrive yet! V. I tried NOT causing a fuss - it didn't work. VI. I didn't know Arcane was red, I just wanted to join something - and "lingering on grid" hardly applies when you're trying to warp to a stargate but you're scrambled. VII. A bantam is not a newbie ship, it's a mining frigate. Additionally, see your sentence "No one gave you a second thought, and you were probably forgotten ten minutes later." - This is not CVA policy, if it were, CVA would be NBSI. You might find it notable to mention that I've been told ratting in frigates gets you like 5 mil an hour tops... Mining the rocks I found returned... about 500k in 15 minutes, not bad.
Mithos Victus Minmatar Aurelius Federation Apotheosis of Virtue	Posted - 2009.02.09 20:15:00 - [69] Edited by: Mithos Victus on 09/02/2009 20:17:17 Originally by: Bekmambetov I. No comment (I have abosolutely no idea how to set an alliance positive personally) Originally by: Bekmambetov II. I was actually on my way back after having lost another bantam to rats, there was nobody there on the way there and I seriously doubt some sort of camp would've been there on the way back. Why not? Originally by: Bekmambetov III. Market logs prove purchases without assets to back them up (only skillbooks and implants can be purchased without leaving an asset trail, unless the modules are fitted to a ship) The logs are not foolproof, and even with your full API, things can get conveniently misplaced. Originally by: Bekmambetov IV. I tried to get away. I suppose everybody fits microwarpdrives on their bantams, and warp core stabilizers, to counter HIC's and warp disruptors. I don't even have the skills for a microwarpdrive yet! I suppose everybody zips around in ships they can't afford to lose or are attached to with implants they can't replace and randomly targets active combat gangs on the hunt for hostiles in the area. Originally by: Bekmambetov V. I tried NOT causing a fuss - it didn't work. So you did what, came on here and wrote an inflammatory generalization about the entirety of Providence based on what is already a known and practiced policy that you were not aware of to begin with and now want to be compensated for said ignorance? Originally by: Bekmambetov VI. I didn't know Arcane was red, I just wanted to join something - and "lingering on grid" hardly applies when you're trying to warp to a stargate but you're scrambled. If you had enough time to break gate cloak, target a ship, realize you might have messed up, and spend time "deciding" as you said which stargate to warp to, that's lingering. But for argument's sake, please provide the timecode entries from your logs as to when you entered the local system and when you were scrambled. Originally by: Bekmambetov VII. A bantam is not a newbie ship, it's a mining frigate. Additionally, see your sentence "No one gave you a second thought, and you were probably forgotten ten minutes later." - This is not CVA policy, if it were, CVA would be NBSI. NRDS. You took a hostile action, you were immediately eliminated due to this hostile action. This is the policy. By engaging in a hostile act, you were then responded to with hostility. I would assume this is rather simple to understand. Originally by: Bekmambetov You might find it notable to mention that I've been told ratting in frigates gets you like 5 mil an hour tops... Mining the rocks I found returned... about 500k in 15 Training to use a cruiser or battlecruiser and fitting a salvager earns you 75mil an hour when the chains are good in a quiet system. Your point? _______________________________________________ [...a lion lurking in the plain]
glassmanipulator Minmatar Lucian Alliance Arcane Alliance	Posted - 2009.02.10 00:29:00 - [70] Originally by: Jon Rocks Quote: This happened before I joined Arcane Alliance. I felt vulnerable without friends after this attack so I joined a corp. Good to know that Arcane is recruiting hardcore bantam pilots. ROFL I about pee`d myself, again.

Ocih Amarr Clan Shadow Wolf Sylph Alliance	Posted - 2009.02.10 02:53:00 - [71] The proper thing to do would have been to file a KOS request.
Ackaroth Gallente Noir.	Posted - 2009.02.10 04:41:00 - [72] Originally by: jarack This isn't just any Bantam, this is The Bantam Menace!! I lol'd. To OP: Welcome to EVE? Space isnt supposed to be safe. Its cold and mean and ruthless. Wear a helmet.
StainLessStealRat Caldari Legio V Fidelus Fidelas Constans	Posted - 2009.02.10 06:28:00 - [73] As a providance resident i can truly say if you are in an NPC corp you will not be shot on sight.But you target some one and intel is quiet you will be chased and shot buy some of the more Gun ho player. i rememberthis when it was reported in intel and as i recall there was some smak comming out of that bantam aswell
Octavinus Augustus Amarr Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2009.02.10 13:05:00 - [74] Originally by: Forty Three Originally by: Cyrrus Ex This too made me slightly rofl. im sorry but you just dont roam into CVA space. err, we do You do? Oh, come on. That snipe is so obvious I just couldn't resist. Besides you're all busy doing something down in Catch as I understand it. Q: How do you make a disobedient Minmatar slave scream? A: Skin it and roll it in salt.
Algey Caldari The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.02.10 14:07:00 - [75] Originally by: Octavinus Augustus Originally by: Forty Three Originally by: Cyrrus Ex This too made me slightly rofl. im sorry but you just dont roam into CVA space. err, we do You do? Oh, come on. That snipe is so obvious I just couldn't resist. Besides you're all busy doing something down in Catch as I understand it. Catch has been a bit of fun lately, but we still love you enough that you'll not be left out
Bekmambetov Caldari Intergalactic Peace Organization Arcane Alliance	Posted - 2009.02.10 16:08:00 - [76] I. After further inspection I don't think it's actually possible. Fail on your part? II. Seeing as ALL the systems on the way except one was empty I wasn't expecting an ambush. III. Yes, I'm sure I'd trash some implants... That'd be smart. IV. Your sarcasm fails to amaze me. (You do make a good point though, horrible way of putting it). V. Generally I'd contest, but you're not that far off the truth. VI. http://throstur.110mb.com/killboard/Bekmambetov3/20090202_233008.txt Read it, log was included in the original post. I was obviously chased as I was shot in multiple systems. VII. TBH, if a mining frigate targets you and IMMEDIATELY after that jumps, do you automatically the mining frigate is hostile? If yes, please revamp your intelligence attributes in the next patch and and up your social skills. Originally by: Mithos Victus Training to use a cruiser or battlecruiser and fitting a salvager earns you 75mil an hour when the chains are good in a quiet system. Your point? My point is that I'd just arrived in the system, it wasn't too quiet, none of the rats I saw were over 850k and I'm still finishing up my learning skills (as opposed to training cruiser and support skills up)
Mithos Victus Minmatar Aurelius Federation Apotheosis of Virtue	Posted - 2009.02.10 20:07:00 - [77] Originally by: Bekmambetov stuff You can set standing to corporations as an NPC neutral, it takes a little extra work, but we're not that lazy, right? It depends, there are two viable options. One, you had a ship scanner fitted, and you were going to scan the layout of one of the key ships in the gang, thus allowing docked reds in a near system to refit accordingly. Or two, you had a buffer tank on a Bantam with a scram, and you were going to sacrifice yourself just long enough to distract the gang while your own red gang jumped system and warped on point, dropped a HIC or bubble, and killed everyone in sight because they had aggression from engaging you. Your ship cost what, under 500k? It is expendable to the extreme. How much did the combined fleet you were on grid with cost? Half a bil? A couple bil? Think about it. What reason did they have for not treating your act as hostile? Should everyone stop, wait, and pause to parlay with a neutral person who target locks them while they are on combat operations, what would EVE be like? Cap'n Fruity: "Ensign, is that a target lock I see from that rusty mining ship off the port side?" Ensign Giggles: "Sir, yes sir! Orders sir?" Cap'n Fruity: "Let us enter into dialog with the lowly space faring stranger even as a fleet of our enemies may be bearing down upon us as we speak! To the comms!" Rusty Miner: "Duhhhh h'yuck, c'mon boys, the prize awaits!" scrambles target Pirates: YARR!!!! TO THE VICTOR GO THE MIGHTY SPOILS AND BOOTY OF WAR!!!1!1 Yea, so does this sound like your EVE? _______________________________________________ [...a lion lurking in the plain]
Korlock Amarr Burning Technologies Dara Cothrom	Posted - 2009.02.10 23:37:00 - [78] Originally by: Angelia Holger Edited by: Angelia Holger on 08/02/2009 11:30:48 Edited by: Angelia Holger on 08/02/2009 11:30:15 Um, wait a second. Do I understand it right? You go to Provi, target a ship and run away to other system only to mess up with cargo containers there? And then cry out you were ship and podkilled? For heaven's sake, its like you had entered somebody's house, waved a fist on the owner in a manner suggesting he'll be hit in a moment and then ran away to other room and started looking what's in the drawers. Bet you would be pretty surprised if the owner of the house kicked your bottom? Guess you just learned the hard way. Now just learn not to whine. This is like the best analogy ever
Isaac Starstriker Amarr Solaris Operations	Posted - 2009.02.11 00:06:00 - [79] Originally by: Korlock Originally by: Angelia Holger Edited by: Angelia Holger on 08/02/2009 11:30:48 Edited by: Angelia Holger on 08/02/2009 11:30:15 Um, wait a second. Do I understand it right? You go to Provi, target a ship and run away to other system only to mess up with cargo containers there? And then cry out you were ship and podkilled? For heaven's sake, its like you had entered somebody's house, waved a fist on the owner in a manner suggesting he'll be hit in a moment and then ran away to other room and started looking what's in the drawers. Bet you would be pretty surprised if the owner of the house kicked your bottom? Guess you just learned the hard way. Now just learn not to whine. This is like the best analogy ever Quoting because both are right. L2P idiot OP --Isaac Isaac's Haul*Mart
Xennith Caldari Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.02.11 00:47:00 - [80] Originally by: Octavinus Augustus Besides you're all busy doing something down in Catch as I understand it. kicking ass, taking names. getting blobbed. kicking ass anyway. its good fun atm tbh. some really great fights going on.

Somal Thunder Minmatar Intergalactic Peace Organization Arcane Alliance	Posted - 2009.02.11 01:30:00 - [81] Edited by: Somal Thunder on 11/02/2009 01:31:43 I'm having Bekmambetov kicked out of Arcane for this just so you know, please stop dissing our alliance because we decided to trust him instead of running an API check on him. EDIT: He/She/It can't even use warp scramblers, we found out yesterday.
Scagga Laebetrovo Minmatar Ammatar Free Corps	Posted - 2009.02.11 13:38:00 - [82] Originally by: Isaac Starstriker Originally by: Korlock Originally by: Angelia Holger Edited by: Angelia Holger on 08/02/2009 11:30:48 Edited by: Angelia Holger on 08/02/2009 11:30:15 Um, wait a second. Do I understand it right? You go to Provi, target a ship and run away to other system only to mess up with cargo containers there? And then cry out you were ship and podkilled? For heaven's sake, its like you had entered somebody's house, waved a fist on the owner in a manner suggesting he'll be hit in a moment and then ran away to other room and started looking what's in the drawers. Bet you would be pretty surprised if the owner of the house kicked your bottom? Guess you just learned the hard way. Now just learn not to whine. This is like the best analogy ever Quoting because both are right. L2P idiot OP --Isaac Quoting this for truth.
Mithos Victus Minmatar Aurelius Federation Apotheosis of Virtue	Posted - 2009.02.11 14:13:00 - [83] Edited by: Mithos Victus on 11/02/2009 14:13:53 Originally by: Somal Thunder Edited by: Somal Thunder on 11/02/2009 01:31:43 I'm having Bekmambetov kicked out of Arcane for this just so you know, please stop dissing our alliance because we decided to trust him instead of running an API check on him. EDIT: He/She/It can't even use warp scramblers, we found out yesterday. Fair enough, everyone picks up a bad egg now and then. What matters is that this person seems incapable of admitting error or learning from mistakes when the resounding response, even from sides at opposition with Providence residents are saying this is ridiculous. Some people will claim they were right until the last breath they take, even as evidence to the contrary closes in around them. It's almost pathological in some ways. _______________________________________________ [...a lion lurking in the plain]
O Thief Amarr The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.02.11 15:36:00 - [84] I cannot sleep easy until the Bantam has been avenged. On the forums.
Earthy Gallente R.E.C.O.N.	Posted - 2009.02.11 18:10:00 - [85] k
FOl2TY8 Gallente Revolutionary United Front Paxton Federation	Posted - 2009.02.12 00:45:00 - [86] Originally by: Somal Thunder Edited by: Somal Thunder on 11/02/2009 01:31:43 I'm having Bekmambetov kicked out of Arcane for this just so you know, please stop dissing our alliance because we decided to trust him instead of running an API check on him. EDIT: He/She/It can't even use warp scramblers, we found out yesterday. To the OP: dude... if you had just sucked up the loss and carried on you would still have some e-face salvaged. Now you are all alone sans +3 implants and your almighty Bantam. ---------- This post brought to you by the worst PVP'er in Eve, 48.
RED 5N4kE Gallente Distant Light Galactic Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive	Posted - 2009.05.06 22:05:00 - [87] 0.0 space is really not a place for newbies. especially newbies in an npc corp. they always end up whining like this. i would say its ok if the newbie is in a player corp since he/she will have someone as a guidance to tell him/her of the do's and dont's. CCP makes the empire space safe for a reason...to protect newbie like this. the safe empire space, the rookie channel, the help channel, the adoption channel and a lot more other guides and wikis are there to help newbies learn in the new world of eve. but for you...you decided to learn things the hard way. and you fall due to your bold stupid action. its a simple concept.....cause and effect. you refuse to learn the proper way and thus you learned the hard way. and a little respect wont hurt you know.
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2009.05.06 22:08:00 - [88] Nice Necro Thar ______________________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
Courthouse Caldari Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.05.06 22:08:00 - [89] Edited by: Courthouse on 06/05/2009 22:08:48 Nice thread necro. e:fb
RedSplat Caldari Heretic Army Heretic Nation	Posted - 2009.05.06 22:30:00 - [90] You should see the carnage when Sev. runs remote rep gangs. Originally by: CCP Mitnal I don't sleep. I am always here. Watching. Waiting. Originally by: CCP Mitnal it does get progressively longer.



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