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Lord Evangelian
Gallente
The White Mantle
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Posted - 2009.02.08 10:05:00 -
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Why not...
Alow them to be there, but Modules, cargo bay and drone bay are off line and inaccessible, that will stop the noobs moaning about veterans having an advantage, and realize how boring caps really are, as you can't do anything with them with out support, and your just a sitting duck hehe...
discuss... |
Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.02.08 10:12:00 -
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And the point of having them in high sec would be? |
Marie Duvolle
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Posted - 2009.02.08 10:13:00 -
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I'm guessing the OP wants easier hauling. |
Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2009.02.08 10:13:00 -
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Edited by: Destination SkillQueue on 08/02/2009 10:14:18
Why?
More development work on something, that serves no purpose and is useless. Just let the system be the way it is. And I think the issue is even then that CCP doesn't wan't cynos used in highsec. |
Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.02.08 10:15:00 -
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 Originally by: Marie Duvolle
I'm guessing the OP wants easier hauling.
He wants the cargobay offlined along with everything else.  |
Spurty
Caldari
Amok.
Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.02.08 10:20:00 -
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it was as if a million low sec pirates cried out at the same second .. |
Kendrix Arathan
Minmatar
N00bs With Guns
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Posted - 2009.02.08 10:23:00 -
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Originally by: Marie Duvolle
I'm guessing the OP wants easier hauling.
I'm guessing he wants a giant epeen to sit outside trade hub stations in... |
Artassaut
Minmatar
Oblivion Amalgamated
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Posted - 2009.02.08 10:25:00 -
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Or having a safe place to keep your capital ship, or being able to use Empire Space as a shortcut going from one side of 0.0 to the other. |
Illiya
Caldari
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2009.02.08 10:27:00 -
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Allowing cynos in hi-sec would have a lot of ramifications for 0.0 logistics. |
Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.02.08 10:30:00 -
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Originally by: Illiya
Allowing cynos in hi-sec would have a lot of ramifications for 0.0 logistics.
Did you even read the op? |
Illiya
Caldari
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2009.02.08 10:33:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Illiya
Allowing cynos in hi-sec would have a lot of ramifications for 0.0 logistics.
Did you even read the op?
Do you know anything about capitals? Like, how they travel? And that cynos are currently not allowed in hi-sec, and that is the mechanic that keeps caps out? And because of that, caps can currently be in hi-sec if they are made in hi-sec? |
Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.02.08 10:34:00 -
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I'll take that as a no.  |
Illiya
Caldari
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2009.02.08 10:38:00 -
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No, I did. The question was "why not?" And my reply is that it would have large ramifications for 0.0 logistics. Not neccesarily cynoing out of, but into with a full drone/mod/cargo bay. Or even being able to titan bridge directly into hisec.
Have I responded enough to you yet, troll? |
Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.02.08 10:42:00 -
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Edited by: Zeba on 08/02/2009 10:44:47
 Ok, then please explain to me how having a capitol that passes though high sec that has 0m3 cargobay and no slots for fittings or any active functionality will have any logistical value as I would be certain that if the op had his way then ccp would only allow capitols in that were empty and unfitted. |
Illiya
Caldari
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2009.02.08 10:47:00 -
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Edited by: Illiya on 08/02/2009 10:47:37
Cyno in hi-sec -> bridge in freighters?
edit: you seem to be pretty hurf blurf and butthurt about a simple response to a thread, just saying. |
Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.02.08 10:48:00 -
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Edited by: Zeba on 08/02/2009 10:49:40
Please point to the part of the op were he asked for cynos. I'm fairly sure he means allowing them to be built in high sec again so he can strut around his system of choice ala Chribba.
edit: Its my nature, you should be used to that personality type if your alliance mates are any indication.  |
Kendrix Arathan
Minmatar
N00bs With Guns
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Posted - 2009.02.08 10:51:00 -
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Edited by: Kendrix Arathan on 08/02/2009 10:52:32
Originally by: Zeba
Edited by: Zeba on 08/02/2009 10:44:47
Ok, then please explain to me how having a capitol that passes though high sec that has 0m3 cargobay and no slots for fittings or any active functionality will have any logistical value as I would be certain that if the op had his way then ccp would only allow capitols in that were empty and unfitted.
Your Right, jump bridgeing an entire fleet into highsec has absolutely 0 logistical or tactical value... |
Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.02.08 10:53:00 -
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Originally by: Kendrix Arathan
Originally by: Zeba
Edited by: Zeba on 08/02/2009 10:44:47
Ok, then please explain to me how having a capitol that passes though high sec that has 0m3 cargobay and no slots for fittings or any active functionality will have any logistical value as I would be certain that if the op had his way then ccp would only allow capitols in that were empty and unfitted.
Your Right, jump brigeing an entire fleet into highsec has absolutely 0 logistical or tactical value...
Which is why it would never be allowed and the op didn't ask for it. Think past the twitch reaction please.  |
Illiya
Caldari
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2009.02.08 10:53:00 -
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Most people don't understand that there are 6,000 goons, and there are extremely wide and varying types. To be honest, there are a metric ****ton that I detest.
Back to the question, the method of allowing capitals wasn't in the post. The first thing that jumped out in my mind was to toggle the flag that disallows cynos in hisec, being the way capitals travel. |
iudex
Caldari
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2009.02.08 10:58:00 -
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If you really want a cap in highsec that bad, here is the chance for you: Chimera in HighSec sale |
Miki Fin
Gallente
Independant Union of Rangers
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Posted - 2009.02.08 10:59:00 -
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I saw Chribba the other day. He was flying a falcon. |
Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.02.08 11:00:00 -
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Originally by: iudex
If you really want a cap in highsec that bad, here is the chance for you: Chimera in HighSec sale
Hmmm. Might have to toss you an offer if its a CCP sactioned sale and they won't boot it out afterwards.  |
Kendrix Arathan
Minmatar
N00bs With Guns
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Posted - 2009.02.08 11:00:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Kendrix Arathan
Originally by: Zeba
Edited by: Zeba on 08/02/2009 10:44:47
Ok, then please explain to me how having a capitol that passes though high sec that has 0m3 cargobay and no slots for fittings or any active functionality will have any logistical value as I would be certain that if the op had his way then ccp would only allow capitols in that were empty and unfitted.
Your Right, jump brigeing an entire fleet into highsec has absolutely 0 logistical or tactical value...
Which is why it would never be allowed and the op didn't ask for it. Think past the twitch reaction please.
Originally by: Lord Evangelian
Why not...
Alow them to be there, but Modules, cargo bay and drone bay are off line and inaccessible, that will stop the noobs moaning about veterans having an advantage, and realize how boring caps really are, as you can't do anything with them with out support, and your just a sitting duck hehe...
discuss...
He says as little about them being built there as he does cynos..
He gave a very general and basic frame work for cap in high sec and asked for discussion...
you making just as many and just as broad assumptions as we are, you just the only one being smug and condescending
also,
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Kendrix Arathan
Originally by: Zeba
Edited by: Zeba on 08/02/2009 10:44:47
Ok, then please explain to me how having a capitol that passes though high sec that has 0m3 cargobay and no slots for fittings or any active functionality will have any logistical value
caps can't "pass through" anywhere w/o cyno's... and you implied their movement yourself. |
iudex
Caldari
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2009.02.08 11:07:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: iudex
If you really want a cap in highsec that bad, here is the chance for you: Chimera in HighSec sale
Hmmm. Might have to toss you an offer if its a CCP sactioned sale and they won't boot it out afterwards.
It's not sanctioned, since the Chribba's Veldnought removal incident CCP stated that the remaining capitals in highsec are allowed to stay there, with the restriction that they may not be used for any kind of pvp (not undocking if you have a wardec, not helping others in pvp etc).
Looking forward for your offer, but i'll reject anything considerably lower as the price given in the sale thread (already rejected an offer that was 1 billion below that price).
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Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.02.08 11:11:00 -
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KK, it would be for one of my npc corp combat alts anyways as I can only fly minnie caps.
inappropriate signature. ~WeatherMan |
Lord Evangelian
Gallente
The White Mantle
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Posted - 2009.02.08 14:06:00 -
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Edited by: Lord Evangelian on 08/02/2009 14:08:09
Im talking about them in there raw unfitted form, so people can have them there, build them there if they really wanted to go through highsec pos gamming, but not be able to use them for advantage.
With out drone bay, cargo bay and Off lined module, the Capital has no real significance and may as well be a glorified shuttle. So noobs can't complane about advantages...
To cyno in would be a problem because current mechanics don't allow it. If that was changed because of no advantage, it would still not help fleets running through highsec, as they would still have to fit the capitals on the other side, taking just as long.
What I am talking about is the only reason people want capitals in highsec, because it is somthing that people would use as a symbol to say, look how leet I am.
I am against the idea, as It would annoy me too much seeing 3 month old ISK buyers sitting in a Thanatos outside duripant Vi...but I know alot of people want them for all sorts of reasons...
I just wanted to see other peoples views... |
N'tek alar
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Posted - 2009.02.08 15:31:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Evangelian
Edited by: Lord Evangelian on 08/02/2009 14:08:09
Im talking about them in there raw unfitted form, so people can have them there, build them there if they really wanted to go through highsec pos gamming, but not be able to use them for advantage.
With out drone bay, cargo bay and Off lined module, the Capital has no real significance and may as well be a glorified shuttle. So noobs can't complane about advantages...
To cyno in would be a problem because current mechanics don't allow it. If that was changed because of no advantage, it would still not help fleets running through highsec, as they would still have to fit the capitals on the other side, taking just as long.
What I am talking about is the only reason people want capitals in highsec, because it is somthing that people would use as a symbol to say, look how leet I am.
I am against the idea, as It would annoy me too much seeing 3 month old ISK buyers sitting in a Thanatos outside duripant Vi...but I know alot of people want them for all sorts of reasons...
I just wanted to see other peoples views...
No cynos in high sec as it would allow you to jump bridge freighters in, It's already been said in the thread, But i guess you can't be bothered to read the replies in your own thread >_> |
Lord Evangelian
Gallente
The White Mantle
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Posted - 2009.02.08 15:58:00 -
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Originally by: N'tek alar
Originally by: Lord Evangelian
Edited by: Lord Evangelian on 08/02/2009 14:08:09
Im talking about them in there raw unfitted form, so people can have them there, build them there if they really wanted to go through highsec pos gamming, but not be able to use them for advantage.
With out drone bay, cargo bay and Off lined module, the Capital has no real significance and may as well be a glorified shuttle. So noobs can't complane about advantages...
To cyno in would be a problem because current mechanics don't allow it. If that was changed because of no advantage, it would still not help fleets running through highsec, as they would still have to fit the capitals on the other side, taking just as long.
What I am talking about is the only reason people want capitals in highsec, because it is somthing that people would use as a symbol to say, look how leet I am.
I am against the idea, as It would annoy me too much seeing 3 month old ISK buyers sitting in a Thanatos outside duripant Vi...but I know alot of people want them for all sorts of reasons...
I just wanted to see other peoples views...
No cynos in high sec as it would allow you to jump bridge freighters in, It's already been said in the thread, But i guess you can't be bothered to read the replies in your own thread >_>
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To cyno in would be a problem because current mechanics don't allow it. If that was changed because of no advantage, it would still not help fleets running through highsec, as they would still have to fit the capitals on the other side, taking just as long.
I was not refering to jumpfrieghters, your right thought. I was ansering the Idea of them using it as a short cut to get from North to South, or East to West...
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