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Karrade Krise Galatic P0RN Starz	Posted - 2009.02.08 20:56:00 - [31] This guy seems legit. CCP Atlas - The Short Story - "With Quantum Rise, we kind of messed up the performance of the EVE client."
K1RTH G3RS3N Haunted House BROTHERS GRIM.	Posted - 2009.02.08 20:58:00 - [32] Originally by: Karrade Krise This guy seems legit. true story Recruiting \o/
Empire Godness	Posted - 2009.02.08 22:22:00 - [33] I had a member lose their Hulk. It was rather unexpected, I thought we were safe in empire. I now however see that we are not. I have since contacted them about their offer. Yesterday while mining my corp mate seen them suicide someone else in the exact same belt as her. So it would appear they are true to their word. If you are concerned about the rate increasing the following term, eve mail me in one month.
State Security Caldari	Posted - 2009.02.09 07:53:00 - [34] There's several Merc outfits looking for some Pew Pew fun, hire them and watch the fun. It'll cost a LOT less, about 20M, and they are skilled in exactly what you need them to be, PvP. Because once you pay, you're a "payer" forever more. They will milk you and milk you till they can find an excuse to shoot you anyways, so may as well fight it out.
Ugluuk Caldari Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2009.02.09 08:39:00 - [35] Originally by: K1RTH G3RS3N anyway - telling him to come say it himself when himself already said it isnt anything to do with grammer or language As far as i know he did not tell us to **** ourselfes..He told the op to say it.. But if he wants someone to use that kinda language on us he can come to our system and say it himself. Btw, nice to see someone worry about my English grammar while thinking of Rai`s panties at the same time..
Vaal Erit Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2009.02.09 08:44:00 - [36] God this is so funny. Villwrath is my hero. He's a pretty cool guy, ransoms miners and doesn't afraid of anything.
Jarek Naumen Gallente Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2009.02.09 08:47:00 - [37] Originally by: K1RTH G3RS3N ok so what you do now is set his corp red to your corp/alliance and any known associates, watch local, and just incase - tank your hulk... shield hardners, invul fields, damage control units. i wouldnt normally give a bear advice on how to survive but the message that random sent you is pretty silly tbh, all he did is give you a heads up eh... It seems you had trouble understanding fully the contents of the message. Customer satisfaction is very important to us, thus no message is random or from random sender. Usually hulk pilots who have already experienced firsthand the full extent of operation "Free The Carebears" have the first chance to take advantage of this special offer, so they can truly appreciate it's positive aspects or the consequences of not subscribing to this service.
Neo Rainhart Bandiittisektori	Posted - 2009.02.09 08:52:00 - [38] Yeah who are bydi I never heard of them? o/ muad is bragging about your assorted miner kills alot, sounds like a lot of fun and tears to be had
Misanth RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE Black Legion.	Posted - 2009.02.09 10:25:00 - [39] insert Captain Picard-facepalm Random nubs with no corpticker talking about this enterprice, so happens, all of them happily found there way to this little thread? I think someone is seeking attention. Cute. Come here big boys, sit in my lap. Papa Misanth got hugs and candy..
Villwrath Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2009.02.09 12:04:00 - [40] Edited by: Villwrath on 09/02/2009 12:05:02 Originally by: Misanth insert Captain Picard-facepalm Random nubs with no corpticker talking about this enterprice, so happens, all of them happily found there way to this little thread? I think someone is seeking attention. Cute. Come here big boys, sit in my lap. Papa Misanth got hugs and candy.. Or perhaps, we saw the thread posted by someone who lost a Hulk, thought it was amusing and shared the link with our fellow corpmates.... just perhaps.
Huberek Morchu	Posted - 2009.02.09 13:43:00 - [41] Until they blow up your ship, its a scam. Ignore him. It appears he does use the destroyer attack however, but since hes in a corp, Im sure some mercs would like a fight. http://www.battleclinic.com/eve_online/pk/view.php?type=player&name=Villwrath&id=5885096&page=1&filter=kills#mail
Alexia Xias	Posted - 2009.02.09 14:38:00 - [42] Originally by: Empire Godness I had a member lose their Hulk. It was rather unexpected, I thought we were safe in empire. I now however see that we are not. I have since contacted them about their offer. Yesterday while mining my corp mate seen them suicide someone else in the exact same belt as her. So it would appear they are true to their word. If you are concerned about the rate increasing the following term, eve mail me in one month. .... said the ALT
Heikki Gallente Wreckless Abandon	Posted - 2009.02.09 15:00:00 - [43] Originally by: Rai Deo 4-6 t1 fitted destroyers .. about 300k isk .. I advise you pay up. Argument from 'i mined the mins so they are free' school.. Some assumptions: - You can't cycle alts or trial accounts for consistent suiciding -> gotta be paid account - Instead of using shooting Hulks everyone could be doing something more profitable, let's say worth of 10-20M per hour So, if such high sec ops takes couple hours with 6 guys, how many Hulks you get to kill in that time, and how much loot that will yield? Default opportunity loss is already 60M-120M + ships (and sec status penalty, but thats not real penalty). The point being, such tactic isn't sustainable from pirates point of view; it only works if they get enough people paying for protection. Although paying such protection money is never wise from community point of view, it might be good for individual in some cases. Anyone can up more downsides from invidual's point of view? - Paying up marks you as 'likely to pay in the future' bracket for all enemy corp members, and increases likelyhood for future unrelated black mail attempts. - Gives the player the feeling of 'im paying, so im weaker than them' -Lasse finding Empire too unsafe
Kaya Valda Caldari Neo Spartans	Posted - 2009.02.09 15:02:00 - [44] Originally by: Liczykrupa 1. I will not give isk-s to morons (however I have to admit they are very skilled fighters). Skilled? Since when is skill in Eve represented by highsec ganking an Exhumer? Originally by: Marshall Jannsen These pansy pirates can start hitting real high sec targets like freighters, or should just go back to running missions. Highsec ganking ≠ Piracy
Mickey Simon Noir.	Posted - 2009.02.09 15:02:00 - [45] Originally by: Neo Rainhart Yeah who are bydi I never heard of them? heh, checked this thread again. Heard of them, but hadn't heard of any of the posts I responded to, guess there's a reason why they let you turn corp tickers on
Muad' Dib Gallente Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2009.02.09 15:52:00 - [46] Edited by: Muad'' Dib on 09/02/2009 15:54:11 Originally by: Heikki Originally by: Rai Deo 4-6 t1 fitted destroyers .. about 300k isk .. I advise you pay up. Argument from 'i mined the mins so they are free' school.. Some assumptions: - You can't cycle alts or trial accounts for consistent suiciding -> gotta be paid account - Instead of using shooting Hulks everyone could be doing something more profitable, let's say worth of 10-20M per hour So, if such high sec ops takes couple hours with 6 guys, how many Hulks you get to kill in that time, and how much loot that will yield? Default opportunity loss is already 60M-120M + ships (and sec status penalty, but thats not real penalty). The point being, such tactic isn't sustainable from pirates point of view; it only works if they get enough people paying for protection. Although paying such protection money is never wise from community point of view, it might be good for individual in some cases. Anyone can up more downsides from invidual's point of view? - Paying up marks you as 'likely to pay in the future' bracket for all enemy corp members, and increases likelyhood for future unrelated black mail attempts. - Gives the player the feeling of 'im paying, so im weaker than them' -Lasse finding Empire too unsafe You are right about the alts thing. You are wrong about the rest. Also, if we're talking isk/h and such efficiency, nobody in EVE can compete with the 15-20m/h made by running missions/ratting. Originally by: Kaya Valda Originally by: Liczykrupa 1. I will not give isk-s to morons (however I have to admit they are very skilled fighters). Skilled? Since when is skill in Eve represented by highsec ganking an Exhumer? Originally by: Marshall Jannsen These pansy pirates can start hitting real high sec targets like freighters, or should just go back to running missions. Highsec ganking ≠ Piracy When he says pirates, i think he is referring to the security status of the individuals involved, and not the act.
Liz Laser	Posted - 2009.02.09 16:33:00 - [47] Edited by: Liz Laser on 09/02/2009 16:34:13 If people pay up, what's to keep Villwrath from making a similar threat to those payees with each of his alts? Just how many people will you pay 100 million a month to? Pretty soon every player will be using every one of their characters to demand protection money. Eventually, miners will have to buy dozens of GTCs and sell the PLEXes for isk just for the privelege of mining. :-)
Ugluuk Caldari Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2009.02.09 17:41:00 - [48] Originally by: Liz Laser Edited by: Liz Laser on 09/02/2009 16:34:13 If people pay up, what's to keep Villwrath from making a similar threat to those payees with each of his alts? Just how many people will you pay 100 million a month to? Pretty soon every player will be using every one of their characters to demand protection money. Eventually, miners will have to buy dozens of GTCs and sell the PLEXes for isk just for the privelege of mining. :-) You pay for blue standings to BYDI and our blue standings..Which means you are safe from attacks from us.. How this works is that we add all we killed to our "buddy" list..Coming with threaths about doing it again wont work if we dont gank the same people over and over again.. So atm we are building up a client list..Then once we got enough customers we start using the locator agents to find you again.. All you got to do it pay once and be safe the next month.. And BYDI keeps it`s word as all our blue pass customers can confirm..
Alowishus the united Negative Ten.	Posted - 2009.02.09 17:55:00 - [49] Edited by: Alowishus on 09/02/2009 17:56:20 Originally by: Lochmar Fiendhiem Or join a 0.0 alliance. For some reason pirates are afraid of 0.0 You're a moron. 0.0 is where most of us came from. Then we got bored. However 0.0 is where a lot of us keep our alts. Remember that the next time you're on Vent / TS, you may be talking to me! /makes fart noise
oodin Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2009.02.09 18:02:00 - [50] Originally by: Ugluuk Originally by: Marshall Jannsen Considering I've never heard of these idiots, I'd guess that should you jump a few systems away, and keep an eye on local, you'll be fine. Suicide ganking hulks is hard to do in a cost effective manner, because nothing on the hulk is really worth all that much (and they can tank fairly effectively). These pansy pirates can start hitting real high sec targets like freighters, or should just go back to running missions. MOVE OUT TO 0.0 PEOPLE, IT'S NOT THAT HARD. These idiots you are reffering to is my corp..And your corp flew with us idiots in 0.0 1 year ago when Burn Eden let your corp of carebears into Terra Incognita. And since your corp and the other FLA people lacked huge understanding on what PVP is we left the alliance and went back to low sec.. Low sec is the place in Eve with most skilled pvp pilots..Not nublets like you who fly in big gangs and think 70mill Sp makes you a good pilot.. Bugger off little man.. fokkin pwned!!! fla didnt you elite pvpers play with BEAGLES too ?
oodin Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2009.02.09 18:07:00 - [51] hahaha dont get your panties in a knot! anyway - telling him to come say it himself when himself already said it isnt anything to do with grammer or language i think ugluuk ment,come to our home and "say it" to our face with guns blazing
kor anon Amarr The Tuskers	Posted - 2009.02.09 18:10:00 - [52] Originally by: Alowishus Edited by: Alowishus on 09/02/2009 17:56:20 Originally by: Lochmar Fiendhiem Or join a 0.0 alliance. For some reason pirates are afraid of 0.0 You're a moron. 0.0 is where most of us came from. Then we got bored. However 0.0 is where a lot of us keep our alts. Remember that the next time you're on Vent / TS, you may be talking to me! This. I have experienced 0.0 combat in alliances, and imo lowsec piracy takes alot more skill, especially if you do it solo.
Gambuk	Posted - 2009.02.09 18:25:00 - [53] Lol... Vinny wants his money, capiche?
Liz Laser	Posted - 2009.02.09 20:45:00 - [54] Edited by: Liz Laser on 09/02/2009 20:49:53 Originally by: Ugluuk Originally by: Liz Laser Edited by: Liz Laser on 09/02/2009 16:34:13 If people pay up, what's to keep Villwrath from making a similar threat to those payees with each of his alts? Just how many people will you pay 100 million a month to? Pretty soon every player will be using every one of their characters to demand protection money. Eventually, miners will have to buy dozens of GTCs and sell the PLEXes for isk just for the privelege of mining. :-) You pay for blue standings to BYDI and our blue standings..Which means you are safe from attacks from us.. How this works is that we add all we killed to our "buddy" list..Coming with threaths about doing it again wont work if we dont gank the same people over and over again.. So atm we are building up a client list..Then once we got enough customers we start using the locator agents to find you again.. All you got to do it pay once and be safe the next month.. And BYDI keeps it`s word as all our blue pass customers can confirm.. Did anything in your post actually address the points I made? What keeps Villwrath from making a similar threat with every one of his alts? What keeps his "crew" from making a similar threat with every one of their alts? They'll have the client list, right? What keeps the rest of us from making a similar threat with each of our characters? How many people will a miner pay off for the privilege of mining? There seems to no limit to the number of people that can make a similar demand on a miner. If you hand a coin to a beggar on the streets of India you will suddenly find yourself surrounded and being chased by dozens of street urchins. I suspect paying to mine would yield a similar result.
Dawts Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2009.02.09 20:47:00 - [55] Originally by: Liz Laser Originally by: Ugluuk Originally by: Liz Laser Edited by: Liz Laser on 09/02/2009 16:34:13 If people pay up, what's to keep Villwrath from making a similar threat to those payees with each of his alts? Just how many people will you pay 100 million a month to? Pretty soon every player will be using every one of their characters to demand protection money. Eventually, miners will have to buy dozens of GTCs and sell the PLEXes for isk just for the privelege of mining. :-) You pay for blue standings to BYDI and our blue standings..Which means you are safe from attacks from us.. How this works is that we add all we killed to our "buddy" list..Coming with threaths about doing it again wont work if we dont gank the same people over and over again.. So atm we are building up a client list..Then once we got enough customers we start using the locator agents to find you again.. All you got to do it pay once and be safe the next month.. And BYDI keeps it`s word as all our blue pass customers can confirm.. Did anything in your post actually address the points I made? What keeps Villwrath from making a similar threat with every one of his alts? What keeps his "crew" from making a similar threat with every one of their alts? They'll have the client list, right? What keeps the rest of us making a similar threat with each of our characters? How many people will a miner pay off for the privilege of mining? There seems to no limit to the number of people that can make a similar demand on a miner. What stops anyone from doing anything?
Liz Laser	Posted - 2009.02.09 20:52:00 - [56] Edited by: Liz Laser on 09/02/2009 20:55:45 Results and the expectation of results. Consequences and the expectation of consequences. If you hand a coin to a beggar on the streets of India you will suddenly find yourself surrounded and being chased by dozens of street urchins. I suspect paying to mine would yield a similar result.[/
Dawts Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2009.02.09 21:00:00 - [57] Originally by: Liz Laser Edited by: Liz Laser on 09/02/2009 20:56:48 Results and the expectation of results. Consequences and the expectation of consequences. If you hand a coin to a beggar on the streets of India you will suddenly find yourself surrounded and being chased by dozens of street urchins. I suspect paying to mine would yield a similar result. Cool analogy, but it's a private transaction so who is going to know you paid for protection? Paying for protection/immunity is commonplace.
Liz Laser	Posted - 2009.02.09 21:04:00 - [58] The C & P forum, for this silly prospect. :-) And all the alts of everyone with access to the client list. Plus, anyone who sees someone in a hulk can do the same thing, regardless of whether they know if he's paid Villwrath.
Liz Laser	Posted - 2009.02.09 21:08:00 - [59] Originally by: Dawts Paying for protection/immunity is commonplace. In High Sec? "commonplace"? I'm not saying it doesn't happen, especially "protection" rather than the immunity that the OP was offered. But "commonplace"? Do you really want to assert that for high sec?
Dawts Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2009.02.09 21:10:00 - [60] The reason this can work is because they prove they can do it. They destroy your hulk and say "we'll do it again if you don't pay us" 1.It isn't an idle threat 2.They have no real reason to keep killing you, they've just brought a client onboard 3.They can move on to new targets to increase their clientele It's bad business to exploit/kill them after they paid.

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