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Ank Parkor
WildSpace Otters
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Posted - 2012.04.22 17:50:00 -
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So you are tired of these kids ganking industrials?
Disgusted of disabled guys claiming themselves pirates but only shooting two months old players?
You want to puke when you see that EVE has the same population that a wow pvp server?
I have the solution!
Allow players with a security status above:
- 5.0 to shoot first at players with negative SS without Concord retaliation or standing loss.
- 3.0 to shoot first at players having a bounty on their head.
All usual rules still apply.
What's the point?
- A way to make the bounties system useful
- A way to make SS useful for something else than the right to travel in Empire
- A new career (and corporations) not based on griefing for once
- Cleaner systems without rebels waiting for the dinner their mom cooks
- More PVP in hi-sec
- The thrill of man hunting
- Hi-sec gate camps!
- Rivers of tears
Imagine that with the new GCC system.
Corporations bringing justice for the weaks through the universe, raising their avengeful power.
Imagine large clean-up fleet roaming through low-sec. There will be a much greater interest to go in these deserted areas.
Imagine a world where pirates will be real badass defying the whole universe and not some random pussies can flipping miners.
Additional proposals:
- Possibility to climb above 5.0 SS with rewarding the kill of these guys (seriously, it would be soooooo awesome)
- Possibility to destroy pods for bounty hunter at reduced cost
- Some modifications to the bounty system to restrain the possibility to place one
Sign now! For justice and everything that is good!
Short time trader, short term missionner, long term ambitions. |
ElQuirko
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
585
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Posted - 2012.04.22 17:55:00 -
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no
If we distribute pictures of people, does that mean God can file copyright claims under SOPA? |
Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
235
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Posted - 2012.04.22 17:57:00 -
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We need a real bounty hunter profession yes but i am 100% against making Eve a Safe sec game, which is the way highsec is heading now unfortunately, we need less highsec.
If we get a bounty, we should be huntable, and even contract out that perhaps. |
Whitehound
168
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Posted - 2012.04.22 17:57:00 -
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I like the idea. It is aggressive.
No more crappy expansions!-á Raise A Little Hell"20 percent of CCP staff fired!" - CEO 'Mr. Nice' Hilmar |
Mark Androcius
34
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Posted - 2012.04.22 17:58:00 -
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Hmmmmmmmm, +1
Yes i am dutch, no i don't do drugs. |
Tobiaz
Spacerats
286
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Posted - 2012.04.22 18:04:00 -
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The upcoming new Crimewatch mechanics and the likely iteration on killrights, bounties and mercenary contracts in the winter-update is going to change everything I guess. Let's just wait and see.
Operation WRITE DOWN ALL THE THINGS!!!-á Check out the list at http://bit.ly/wdatt
Collecting and compiling all fixes and ideas for EVE. Looking for co-editors! |
Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
323
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Posted - 2012.04.22 18:38:00 -
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I wouldn't have a problem with this.
A) IF the Faction Navy vs outlaw mechanic is removed completely. (justiciars are badasses right? - They don't need NPC help.)
B) Pirate is allowed to return fire/get RR - without Concord intervention. |
Ank Parkor
WildSpace Otters
33
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Posted - 2012.04.22 18:48:00 -
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Miilla wrote:We need a real bounty hunter profession yes but i am 100% against making Eve a Safe sec game, which is the way highsec is heading now unfortunately, we need less highsec.
If we get a bounty, we should be huntable, and even contract out that perhaps.
It wouldn't really be safer. Players will still be ganked but outlaws would take more risks.
Quote:A) IF the Faction Navy vs outlaw mechanic is removed completely. (justiciars are badasses right? - They don't need NPC help.)
B) Pirate is allowed to return fire/get RR - without Concord intervention.
For B of course. Like written all the previous rules apply. The point is just to allow to land the first shot. What happens after that... PVP.
For A it sounds fair. NPC hunting players is boring 
Short time trader, short term missionner, long term ambitions. |
Mathias Hex
Hillcrest Armaments
109
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Posted - 2012.04.22 19:13:00 -
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One wow server has a steady population of 25000-50000 thats amazing! How is the lag?
I recall one night in a nightclub called the matrix, there I was... Mother of god there I am! Holy f**k. |
Pok Nibin
Viziam
Amarr Empire
124
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Posted - 2012.04.22 19:19:00 -
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I highly endorse this product.
Don't fight it.-á Rejoin your Amarrian patriarchs.-á You know you want to. |
Dark Drifter
Sardaukar Merc Guild
General Tso's Alliance
30
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Posted - 2012.04.22 21:27:00 -
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Ank Parkor wrote:So you are tired of these kids ganking industrials? Disgusted of disabled guys claiming themselves pirates but only shooting two months old players? You want to puke when you see that EVE has the same population that a wow pvp server? I have the solution! Allow players with a security status above:
- 5.0 to shoot first at players with negative SS without Concord retaliation or standing loss.
- 3.0 to shoot first at players having a bounty on their head.
All usual rules still apply. What's the point?
- A way to make the bounties system useful
- A way to make SS useful for something else than the right to travel in Empire
- A new career (and corporations) not based on griefing for once
- Cleaner systems without rebels waiting for the dinner their mom cooks
- More PVP in hi-sec
- The thrill of man hunting
- Hi-sec gate camps!
- Rivers of tears
Imagine that with the new GCC system. Corporations bringing justice for the weaks through the universe, raising their avengeful power. Imagine large clean-up fleet roaming through low-sec. There will be a much greater interest to go in these deserted areas. Imagine a world where pirates will be real badass defying the whole universe and not some random pussies can flipping miners. Additional proposals:
- Possibility to climb above 5.0 SS with rewarding the kill of these guys (seriously, it would be soooooo awesome)
- Possibility to destroy pods for bounty hunter at reduced cost
- Some modifications to the bounty system to restrain the possibility to place one
Sign now! For justice and everything that is good!
1- bounty claiment system is on the POD and PODDING anyone above -5 in high sec is a concordable offence (except for ways)
2- ??? sec status is usfull, if you are +5 you can gank more miners B4 you are locked out of HS
3- there will sill be people who find ways to greif with your proposal
4- a catalyst can move 5-10 systems and gank a hulk in less than 5 minuets
5- there is already plenty of sanctioned and non sanctioned PVP in HS
6- the thrill is already there
7- again these exsist in the form of freighter gank squads (and war partys)
8- there are already ocians of tears from miners and people who are stupid enough to transport billions in isk while using auto pilot
second lot.
1- this has been touched on in the new crime watch system talk at fan fest
2- you shoot pod you die this is how eves highsec is (not including war targets and the -10s)
3- bounty system needs to be scrapped and written from the ground up ... again (current mechanic favours the bountyed player and his alt)
Tl;Dr... no
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Karn Dulake
Souls Must Be Trampled
The.Alliance
500
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Posted - 2012.04.22 22:02:00 -
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I like most of this in principle but i cant give you a +1 as you have stated what you would like but you have not said exactly how to achieve it.
The easiest thing in the world is to criticise something. the hard part is coming up with an alternative
I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion. |
Mark Androcius
47
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Posted - 2012.04.25 19:13:00 -
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CCP is already working on the alternative, watch the CrimeWatch video of the 2012 fan fest.
Basically, they are going to make it so that 1) ganking players gets you negative sec status much faster 2) ganking a player with -5 sec rating while having a positive sec status yourself, increases your sec status by 5 whole points ( making getting to +10 and/or -10 much easier ).
If a man speaks his mind in the forest and no woman hears him, is he still wrong? |
Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
1489
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Posted - 2012.04.25 19:39:00 -
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Great to see yet another genius claiming to have found THE solution to a problem ... *shakeshead*
So i shouldn't be allowed to "legally" go bounty hunting, because i'm -10 ...
*shakeshead*
Most of the people with +3 or +5, or even higher, won't care about that anyway ...
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Mark Androcius
47
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Posted - 2012.04.25 19:44:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:Great to see yet another genius claiming to have found THE solution to a problem ... *shakeshead
So i shouldn't be allowed to "legally" go bounty hunting, because i'm -10 ..
*shakeshead
Most of the people with +3 or +5, or even higher, won't care about that anyway ..
With the changes CCP themselves claim to be making, they will, because it gives more and more incentive to shoot "bad" guys
It makes EVE more black and white in that area, which is a good thing if you ask me, to much grey doesn't always work
If a man speaks his mind in the forest and no woman hears him, is he still wrong? |
Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
1489
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Posted - 2012.04.25 20:17:00 -
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Mark Androcius wrote:With the changes CCP themselves claim to be making, they will, because it gives more and more incentive to shoot "bad" guys
It makes EVE more black and white in that area, which is a good thing if you ask me, to much grey doesn't always work
CCP already knows that they can't "motivate" people to shoot others, when they don't want to.
They know that already, because they have tried for YEARS ... to no success.
Today ... those who see a red and like to shoot ... shoot.
Those who don't ... don't. It won't change a thing.
Never has, never will ... simply because it's ignoring the fundamental part ...
... the character of those who simply do not want to shoot anybody.
(or move to lowsec, as a different - but actually really close - example)
Neither money nor anything else will ever change that.
It's not about "incentive", it's about too many of "them" not giving a **** about the sandbox
for whatever reason ... fear of loss, for example ... or a superiority complex.
And we can't even be sure that new players will be different,
because too many of these bozos tell new players what to do in the game.
Can find these idiots in noobcorps or the help channel.
I'm quite sure you know who i am talking about ... they are spread all over the game, including the forums.
Anyhow ... doesn't matter. The idea won't get considered anyway.
What's saddening me a bit is that i get the feeling that those who propose ideas about a new bounty mechanic,
never actually did any bounty hunting ... but that's pure speculation. It would just be ... typical.
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Stetson Eagle
ROC Academy
The ROC
17
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Posted - 2012.04.25 20:21:00 -
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Good idea - as long as the criminals would be free to retaliate. Good guys allowed first strike by concord would indeed be beneficial for both parties and being an outlaw would require coordination and guerrilla tactics.
Security status of highsec could come into play with "who gets to shoot the criminal" as well: 1.0 sec anyone with decent standings, 0.5 sec only the righteous.
+1
Discuss this and make it happen. |
Zills
State War Academy
Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2012.04.28 02:20:00 -
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[quote=Ank Parkor]
The thrill of man hunting
/quote]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CS9OO0S5w2k&ob=av3e |
Corbin Blair
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
49
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Posted - 2012.04.28 04:07:00 -
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Ank Parkor wrote:
A way to make the bounties system useful
You appear to have no clue what's wrong with the bounty system or how it works. I decided you were an idiot before this point, but this is where I stopped reading.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGLZqDXau98 |
Karadion Kohlar
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
5
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Posted - 2012.04.28 04:09:00 -
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What do you have against disabled people? Are you ableist? |
Corbin Blair
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
81
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Posted - 2012.04.28 04:10:00 -
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Karadion Kohlar wrote:What do you have against disabled people? Are you ableist?
I believe the best way to solve the overpopulation problem is to require licenses to breed. These licenses wouldn't be issued to anyone with an IQ below 100. This law would be retroactive and the maximum age for abortion would be raised to 80. |
Pyotr Kamarovi
EVE University
Ivy League
4
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Posted - 2012.04.29 05:19:00 -
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To prevent (excessive) abuse, the system should probably require that you have to have a minimum bounty on your head to be shot at. Also, I'd reverse the security status requirements. Thirdly, I'd make it so that you have to join a "CONCORD-like" organization, much like factional warfare, so that you can fire upon anyone with negative security status, which would also come with some kind of negative connotation. This would be a solid step towards making everything player owned, which I believe is CCPs stated aim? I think I heard that last point somewhere along the grapevine. |
Xython
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
757
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Posted - 2012.04.29 07:21:00 -
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Ank Parkor wrote:So you are tired of these kids ganking industrials?
Disgusted of disabled guys claiming themselves pirates but only shooting two months old players?
You want to puke when you see that EVE has the same population that a wow pvp server?
Your ideas are bad and you should feel bad. |
Caliph Muhammed
Short Bus Friends
111
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Posted - 2012.04.29 08:45:00 -
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Xython wrote:Ank Parkor wrote:So you are tired of these kids ganking industrials?
Disgusted of disabled guys claiming themselves pirates but only shooting two months old players?
You want to puke when you see that EVE has the same population that a wow pvp server?
Your ideas are bad and you should feel bad.
I agree. I'd hate to be cursed for life with a mentality like the OP. I'd go through life sucking and being mediocre. |
Della Monk
the boltzmann experience
Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
26
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Posted - 2012.05.06 00:32:00 -
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