The OP basically links to a giant post that says if the squiggly line does something then it can rise, fall or stay in a trading range, with a vague nod towards rising squiggly line.

If it turns out in fact that the squiggly line doesn't squiggle upwards as preferred by some readers, then the OP will point to the alternative possibilities predicted, which of course cover 100% of the possible ways a line might squiggle (other than being delisted), and therefore regardless of the direction this line squiggles, the extremely valuable profession of technical analysis will not in any way have its reputation harmed.

The graph shows nicely done manipulation with nocxium. It does not show, however, that price decreases before the price jumps were made deliberately by placing large stockpiles at lower prices so that other people sell their nocxium out.

Interesting is that some made huge stockpiles expecting that a miracle will happen on 24th and prices will jump much higher. However, nocxium stockpiles are huge and they can last for a long, long time. So I expect some of these people unloading their stockpile right after 24th and crashing nocxium prices for a long time. After all summer is coming with lower mineral prices as usual.

The graph shows nicely done manipulation with nocxium. It does not show, however, that price decreases before the price jumps were made deliberately by placing large stockpiles at lower prices so that other people sell their nocxium out.

Interesting is that some made huge stockpiles expecting that a miracle will happen on 24th and prices will jump much higher. However, nocxium stockpiles are huge and they can last for a long, long time. So I expect some of these people unloading their stockpile right after 24th and crashing nocxium prices for a long time. After all summer is coming with lower mineral prices as usual.

That's one of the beautiful features of price reading: you don't need to have an awesome knowledge of your market, who are the big guys to add to the contact list or to follow 0.0 politics and patch notes. Of course if you have such awesome knowledge you WILL perform like a pro. Notice the have, not the "you believe you have", which instantly makes you a small fry to suck dry.

as you can see by this graph here, the presence of ******* has caused a dramatic hardening of the prices, which is expected to lead to rapid price erection

as always, the rapid price erection will be followed by a profit-taking ejaculation of isk from the market, which will cause the prices to soften and the price erection to deflate

subsequently, a baby market is born

You're an idiot, and are in for a surprise.

No. The Price was being held down by the Pax Amaria.

On April 3, the Pax Amarria was changed to refine to Trit instead of Nocx.

Feel free to Google.

I would feel bad if I were appreciated by goons. I wonder what is goon's interest in this if suddenly several of their trash posters appear in this thread?

I would feel bad if I were appreciated by goons. I wonder what is goon's interest in this if suddenly several of their trash posters appear in this thread?

i repeat please explain what parts of your "scientific analysis" were falsified by discovering pax amarria and how it actually impacted the prices

after all this is "scientific analysis" is it not

"i was unable to tell that a hard cap on price was different from an ordinary peak, look at how effective my method is"

Price levels are set on the body of the candle bars that form the swings. By definition of swing, they coincide with peaks so they catch peaks.

I don't know how hard is for you to understand it, the reason why price won't go above 535 is IRRELEVANT, the fact that it does not go above 535 is.

basically your method is so horribly flawed it can't pick up on one of the simplest, obvious, and important things that can occur to an eve item, a hard cap, while being able to look, think critically, and use the time you would instead be prancing naked around an altar looking for patterns in the smoke to go "hrmm the price bounces off this precise number repeatedly, despite the fact it should be above this: i wonder where the reprocessing bug is"

A technical trader does not care about the specific market itself, just about its parameters. He does not need to even try and find WHY something is like it is, it's just redundant waste of time.

let me explain how pax amarria worked

http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online/item.php?type_id=11585

You can buy a single unit of PA for 3,328 ISK. It refined into two (2) isogen and six (6) nocxium. Iso went for 80 isk, so that leaves us with 3168 isk. Divide that by 6 and you get a price of 528 isk/unit.

Pax Amarria can be acquired in literally infinite supply, which means that any time buys went above 535 or so (taxes/couriers factor into the slight bump), you could crush them with literal infinite supply.

hard info on an artificially imposed cap: exactly like fortune telling

Did I pee on your market operations? It's not common to see GS caring to look on MD, much less on my threads.




Call it as you want, the pictures were there before you guys started spamming my thread and there's numbers tagging the resistance levels: eyeballed drawn weekly resistance is 0.39 isk different than the real price.

It means - without recalling about Pax Amarria - I identified the price boxing within 0.072%.

To show off how every market got its own personality, Nocxium moves quite unlike Isogen (last analysis link).
Isogen often bumps into BRNs, Nocxium mostly ignores them.

Useful and thus marked BRNs are just price levels (the support / resistance lines) that happen to sit at round numbers. If price won't sit on BRNs then those BRNs are not marked, as they are ignored and useless.

your thread claims nocx completely ignores resistance levels

do you even read the things you post

[quote=bad analysis]To show off how every market got its own personality, Nocxium moves quite unlike Isogen (last analysis link).
Isogen often bumps into BRNs, Nocxium mostly ignores them.

Useful and thus marked BRNs are just price levels (the support / resistance lines) that happen to sit at round numbers. If price won't sit on BRNs then those BRNs are not marked, as they are ignored and useless. [/quote[
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I mean I'll be honest I'd forgotten the exact details of what you said, then went back and compared it to your furious backpedling and started laughing out loud when i saw how huge the gap was

Gap of what? Backpedalling? I am extremely happy that without remembering about Pax Amarria I still located W R 535.39, which you may easily find in the W graph.

ps if your vaunted ta is such a good technique, why are you investing in md bonds? i mean really.

Why do you ask the same question twice despite I replied specifically to you above already?

MD bonds are effortless 5 to 10% income and diversify risk and I like to do bonds.

Let's flip your question:

"If my tecnique was so bad, why would I have so many billions to invest everywhere?"

"this one line out of many I identified and ascribed absolutely no significance to at the time proves i am right now that the importance of that line has been beaten into my skull"

because if you could actually produce the returns with ta you claim you wouldn't be, hence the conclusion you've got that nagging part of your brain that knows you're wrong and prevents you from putting your money where your mouth is

Since its really hard to argue against :science: I did a little science of my own and well you can't ******* argue against the data now can you

http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1204/postingpredictions.png

like seriously, reading through that "analysis" it's shocking how completely out of touch with reality it is when talking about the past, and the endpoint? "well it may go above 1000 or it may not"

BRILLIANT

I have no idea what the future reserves for us.

first good post you made in the thread

no you haven't, you quit in a furious tizzy and only just came back a few months ago, if that.

...if you were seeking for a magic future seeker you are not one the right thread. Analysis is all about probability and about finding a less risky "trade signal".

In fact correct price prediction is not just impossible, it's useless. What you can do is to setup the various scenarios with their trigger, when time will come, the right trigger will activate the right trade, the others were just possible but not happened events

"it is useless knowing what the price will be tomorrow, today"

What universe have we come down to: the one accused of voodoo future scrying explaining since 1 year ago that he can't read future, the self called rational scientists complaining about that.

In fact correct price prediction is not just impossible, it's useless.

i'm going to underline something in your previous post and see if you figure out what the problem is

To you it's a problem, for me price prediction is a non factor.

yes or no, knowing tomorrows prices today is very useful

If you are gifted with clear voyance or whatever, be blessed and enjoy your fore-knowledge.

I am not such gifted and don't know many guys who got such gift, so I don't know - nor care about tomorrow's price.

I see the market taking a certain "posture" (i.e. forming a double bottom) and I get ready to handle what happens *after* that posture unfolds into action, with a range of tools I have been teached to use. That's all really to it.

Don't need to have clairvoyance, just need to know your markets, a skill which you so readily deride.

You know, the entire US right wing is a cult of ignorance. You should immigrate, you'd fit right in. I mean, aside from being an immigrant...

- Technical financial analysis is ALWAYS inferior to fundamental analysis. Both may lead to the so defined "informed trader" (Reference: Trading & Exchanges by chief Economist Larry Harris) but as described in the same reference, the one with access to reliable fundamentals data will have an higher success rate. Here's the catch, access to reliable fundamentals data is not a given, at all. Only the biggest players (both in RL and in game) have the clear vision of what's really going on. All the others have to settle in for more approximate methods.

You fail to realize that all your analysis on Nocxium is moot because the item was patched.

Artificial price ceiling, now gone, past pricegraph would have been very different without ceiling, data is now obsolete. Your TA on nocxium: worthless.

so let me cut through this attempt to filibuster and get this straight we now all agree that the idea that it is "useless" to know tomorrow's prices today was a completely bizarre statement no intelligent person should have made?

My job instead, is about dealing with the future. I identified 3 possible oucomes and wrote down how I'd act in each of them.

(a) the 3 possible outcomes are the entire spectrum of possible outcomes for any price. ie I could say prices might go up, down or stay in a range for any price of anything ever. it doesn't need 2 pages to justify, and is not insightful.

[quote=Vaerah Vahrokha]


in short, technical analysis of nocx past right now is a poor indicator of the medium term future of how this market will work.

Isn't it therefore superfluous to spend 4 pages pointing out what the author already acknowledged in the original study?

vv you seem to have missed this key post just puttin it out there again

In a nutshell, (because this will likely get deleted like most other posts disagreeing with technical analysis).

(a) the 3 possible outcomes are the entire spectrum of possible outcomes for any price. ie I could say prices might go up, down or stay in a range for any price of anything ever. it doesn't need 2 pages to justify, and is not insightful.

(b) the market behavior you identified now is lacking some actors, and its about to lack several more actors. ie the behaviors you have modelled into technical analysis of this price, now involves many action types that simply can no longer occur, and will remodel the behavior of the actors that remain.

in short, technical analysis of nocx past right now is a poor indicator of the medium term future of how this market will work.

In this ample range, WPD-WPG method tries to avoid all kinds of hype inducing stuff and only sticks to price formations.

Price formations may or may not happen (some are rare-ish), price talks how and when *it* wants.
I am sorry this won't provide you the indicator you want. If this method promised that, then it'd be a scam.
What it can do is to find a close-to-best, wallet conservative course of action to engage in case a number of next scenarios happen.

I would say that the reason that most people barked - myself included - when seeing the second thread, is that we were cross linked to the middle of a thread that it was probably really important to -read- the introduction post. ie your analysis as such is far more reasonable in context.

given that certain fundamentals are widely known, pure charting analysis unintentionally appearing to masquerade as "the analysis", is always going to draw attacks for this mineral.

My apologies for misunderstanding the intended scope of your posts.

let me explain how pax amarria worked

http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online/item.php?type_id=11585

You can buy a single unit of PA for 3,328 ISK. It refined into two (2) isogen and six (6) nocxium. Iso went for 80 isk, so that leaves us with 3168 isk. Divide that by 6 and you get a price of 528 isk/unit.

Pax Amarria can be acquired in literally infinite supply, which means that any time buys went above 535 or so (taxes/couriers factor into the slight bump), you could crush them with literal infinite supply.

Jesus ******* christ, how the hell is your back supporting that massive set of titanic ****?