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orndon Republic University Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2012.04.23 05:46:00 - [1] - Quote what about a capital mining barge? this is really all i have to say but i think it would be a great idea if it could pull 5.5km3 or so and hold 5 heavy drones and probably a bit more tankable then the hulk, or if capital isnt where you want to take it then a larger version with a battleship hullsize
nahjustwarpin Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 7	Posted - 2012.04.23 07:03:00 - [2] - Quote why? so you would want to make more profit? next step would be - everybody flies this ship and you wouldn't make that much profit with it. more people mining more ore = prices drop, so you're not making that much profit anymore. bad idea
Barbie D0ll Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 50	Posted - 2012.04.23 07:11:00 - [3] - Quote a capital mining ship would be a super carrier using harvester drones and drone mining rigs
Dave stark Black Nova Corp. Cascade Imminent 0	Posted - 2012.04.23 08:33:00 - [4] - Quote I would only support a larger class of mining ship if all of the bonuses were in terms of tank/utility and NOT mining yield. solo mining in a hulk can pull in 5.1k m3 per cycle (without drones). a hulk pulls in 5.6k m3 if you're giving yourself the 10% mining bonus for being a fleet booster or whatever (a feature i regularly use when solo mining and there are some kind people around ratting that don't mind being in a fleet with me, hey it's still solo mining!) there's no justification for a mining ship with more yield, there is justification for one with a bigger tank or access to some kind of utility, however. perhaps a role bonus relating to the degredation of mining crystals?
Stetson Eagle ROC Academy The ROC 17	Posted - 2012.04.23 08:42:00 - [5] - Quote Imo strap addidtional mining turret slots on rorqual, 3 of them, and make the siege mode mine at 3x efficiency. You can boast that on belts if you want to, win-win for all.
stoicfaux 961	Posted - 2012.04.23 12:42:00 - [6] - Quote A mining cap ship with jump capability that could only be used in low/null sec? Interesting. You can tell me what is and isn't Truth when you pry the tinfoil from my cold, lifeless head.
Daniel Plain Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 59	Posted - 2012.04.23 13:11:00 - [7] - Quote stoicfaux wrote: A mining cap ship with jump capability that could only be used in low/null sec? Interesting. it sounds pretty sane imo. not only would it get combat ship prices down, thus encouraging more pvp, it would also provide further incentive to actually mine in 0.0 instead of 0.5.
Drakos Vala Cold Moon Destruction 0	Posted - 2012.04.23 13:37:00 - [8] - Quote suppose it would allow the gankbears something new to play with.
Skorpynekomimi Omega Vector 176	Posted - 2012.04.23 14:01:00 - [9] - Quote Hulk yield, BS tank and drone bay, tier 3 industrial cargo hold. Carrier sort of size and usage rules. That's what I think a mining capital should be.
Daniel Plain Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 59	Posted - 2012.04.23 14:08:00 - [10] - Quote Skorpynekomimi wrote: Hulk yield, BS tank and drone bay, tier 3 industrial cargo hold. Carrier sort of size and usage rules. That's what I think a mining capital should be. i'd throw in ~20% more yield in there for good measure
MeBiatch Republic University Minmatar Republic 302	Posted - 2012.04.23 14:15:00 - [11] - Quote make it a tech II carrier... make fighter like mining drones... give the ship bonus to these drones and presto you have a deep null sec mining ship... PLEX FOR PIZZA! TECH iii MINNING SHIPS!
Crellion Parental Control 14	Posted - 2012.04.23 14:37:00 - [12] - Quote stoicfaux wrote: A mining cap ship with jump capability that could only be used in low/null sec? Interesting. Make it so it can't warp while strip miners are active and its a deal
Lord Dravius Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 22	Posted - 2012.04.23 22:34:00 - [13] - Quote orndon wrote: what about a capital mining barge? this is really all i have to say but i think it would be a great idea if it could pull 5.5km3 or so and hold 5 heavy drones and probably a bit more tankable then the hulk, or if capital isnt where you want to take it then a larger version with a battleship hullsize There already is a capital mining barge; Chribba's veldnought.
Sjugar Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 40	Posted - 2012.04.23 23:08:00 - [14] - Quote Put in 5 medium guns on top of the three strip-miners.
FT Diomedes Factio Paucorum 59	Posted - 2012.04.23 23:23:00 - [15] - Quote Don't forget to add immunity to all E-War.
Boomhaur 21	Posted - 2012.04.24 01:40:00 - [16] - Quote Didn't Chribba beat all of you already with Titan's mining and the Veldnaught.
Arazel Chainfire Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension 97	Posted - 2012.04.24 03:15:00 - [17] - Quote I propose a capital mining ship that has to go into seige mod for 10 minutes, can't be remote assited while seiged, and mines double that of a hulk. Oh, and costs as much as a rorqual. This ship will only be able to move via jumpdrive, and has the fitting of a cruiser... /me hides my blackops ship fleets... -Arazel
Judor Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse 0	Posted - 2012.04.24 05:03:00 - [18] - Quote I would like to see this but with a twist. Get rid of moon harvesting with pos. make a cap mining barge for moon mining only, increase m3 on moon goo, and this will balance risk vs reward.
AstarothPrime Eternal Profiteers Persona Non Gratis 10	Posted - 2012.04.24 08:06:00 - [19] - Quote I would second that. No need for extra yield so it dont screw up economy. Let it be carrier sized, yield 20-30% more then a hulk, have carrier size tank and 200-300k m3 worth of ore hold. Ofc it couldnt be able to traverse hisec pretty much like rorqal cant. I.
Hemmo Paskiainen Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities 323	Posted - 2012.04.24 08:47:00 - [20] - Quote dumm ignorant carebears.. a cap shop cant be in emp and they would be too slow getting oyt the belts.. noone would use it as the risk on losing it is too big...we all know how carebears ask and think about risk of losing ships.... CCP FIX BLACK OPS FFS
Lunkwill Khashour Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 68	Posted - 2012.04.24 10:15:00 - [21] - Quote orndon wrote: what about a capital mining barge? this is really all i have to say but i think it would be a great idea if it could pull 5.5km3 or so and hold 5 heavy drones and probably a bit more tankable then the hulk, or if capital isnt where you want to take it then a larger version with a battleship hullsize You want Hulk yield, 5 heavy drones and a bit more tankable than a Hulk. Basically, ask for a buff to the Hulk: better fitting and more drone bandwidth.
Stabs McShiv MINUS4 9	Posted - 2012.04.24 23:18:00 - [22] - Quote And a jump drive, Ore hold, corporate hanger array and some of those fluffy dice to hang from the rear view mirror.
orndon Republic University Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2012.04.25 03:31:00 - [23] - Quote well doesnt have to be like i said lol but something with a little more utility then a hulk, like the moon mining idea and just being more tankable with a larger hull and drone bay so +1 med slot and + 1 low slot woould suit... ya great ideas guys, when i said hull the size of a battleship i wasnt referring to the fitting slots i just meant bump it up from a medium to a large but i think a slightly larger mining yeild even if its just 2% per skill level there has to be a little more incentive then just tankability since it is a mining vessel
Cedo Nulli Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 134	Posted - 2012.04.25 03:39:00 - [24] - Quote Industrial bridging capability !!! .... For some sweet mining ops in the badlands !
Darthewok Perkone Caldari State 58	Posted - 2012.04.25 04:03:00 - [25] - Quote Hemmo Paskiainen wrote: dumm ignorant carebears.. a cap shop cant be in emp and they would be too slow getting oyt the belts.. noone would use it as the risk on losing it is too big...we all know how carebears ask and think about risk of losing ships.... Actually I expect carebears would use it for completely ungankable, riskless AFK high-sec mining. Which is why it wouldn't work. Because completely riskless income sources are against the EVE design concept. CAVEAT RICHARDUS VOLVERE - YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0
I Accidentally YourShip eHarmony Inc. Brushie Brushie Brushie 162	Posted - 2012.04.25 04:38:00 - [26] - Quote A capital mining ship is an excellent idea provided it follows standard cap ship requirements of not being able to enter high sec. A cap ship that is required to be in the belts in the hands of some of the most pvp adverse players in EVE? Yes please.
I Accidentally YourShip eHarmony Inc. Brushie Brushie Brushie 162	Posted - 2012.04.25 04:38:00 - [27] - Quote Darthewok wrote: Hemmo Paskiainen wrote: dumm ignorant carebears.. a cap shop cant be in emp and they would be too slow getting oyt the belts.. noone would use it as the risk on losing it is too big...we all know how carebears ask and think about risk of losing ships.... Actually I expect carebears would use it for completely ungankable, riskless AFK high-sec mining. Which is why it wouldn't work. Because completely riskless income sources are against the EVE design concept. As a cap ship this would not be a factor anyway, it can't go into empire space.
Darthewok Perkone Caldari State 58	Posted - 2012.04.25 04:49:00 - [28] - Quote I Accidentally YourShip wrote: Darthewok wrote: Hemmo Paskiainen wrote: dumm ignorant carebears.. a cap shop cant be in emp and they would be too slow getting oyt the belts.. noone would use it as the risk on losing it is too big...we all know how carebears ask and think about risk of losing ships.... Actually I expect carebears would use it for completely ungankable, riskless AFK high-sec mining. Which is why it wouldn't work. Because completely riskless income sources are against the EVE design concept. As a cap ship this would not be a factor anyway, it can't go into empire space. This is a grey area. Orcas and Freighters can enter high-sec freely. CAVEAT RICHARDUS VOLVERE - YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0
I Accidentally YourShip eHarmony Inc. Brushie Brushie Brushie 162	Posted - 2012.04.25 05:01:00 - [29] - Quote Darthewok wrote: I Accidentally YourShip wrote: Darthewok wrote: Hemmo Paskiainen wrote: dumm ignorant carebears.. a cap shop cant be in emp and they would be too slow getting oyt the belts.. noone would use it as the risk on losing it is too big...we all know how carebears ask and think about risk of losing ships.... Actually I expect carebears would use it for completely ungankable, riskless AFK high-sec mining. Which is why it wouldn't work. Because completely riskless income sources are against the EVE design concept. As a cap ship this would not be a factor anyway, it can't go into empire space. This is a grey area. Orcas and Freighters can enter high-sec freely. Both of which are the exception not the rule as every other cap ship including the Rorqual as an industrial cap ship cannot go into empire space and neither of them have anything close to a cap ship level tank.
Gizan Hounds Of War WHY so Seri0Us 24	Posted - 2012.04.25 08:14:00 - [30] - Quote Judor wrote: I would like to see this but with a twist. Get rid of moon harvesting with pos. make a cap mining barge for moon mining only, increase m3 on moon goo, and this will balance risk vs reward. NiCE!
Tau Cabalander Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs 638	Posted - 2012.04.25 08:30:00 - [31] - Quote Can't have a capital mining thread without Chribba's fleet: http://eve-files.com/chribba/mining_tango.jpg
Dbars Grinding Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation 476	Posted - 2012.04.25 08:31:00 - [32] - Quote no reason not to have this. esp with mineral prices the way they are atm. I have more space likes than you.-á
Sigras Conglomo IMPERIAL LEGI0N 113	Posted - 2012.04.25 08:55:00 - [33] - Quote Im thinking this would be awesome, but with a twist. It mines 2x as much as a hulk, but it takes 4x as much away from the rock that youre mining. For example you're mining from a rock with 100,000 veldspar in it, with a hulk one cycle of all your lasers would give you 14,360 veldspar (perfect skills no bonus/implant) and leave the rock with 85,640 veldspar left. You hit the rock with one cycle of this thing's lasers and you'd get 28,720 veldspar (perfect skills no bonus/implant) but you'd leave the rock with only 42,560 left to mine. This thing would destroy belts, but how "high end" are you willing to go at 1/2 efficiency? I think this would be a reasonable balance against the hulk, allowing you to mine faster but not necessarily better. Also the amount put into your cargohold would be what counted toward the industry index, not the amount removed from the rock so everywhere wont immediately be at level 5
11eyes War Trident Trifectas Syndicate 0	Posted - 2012.04.25 10:37:00 - [34] - Quote Gizan wrote: Judor wrote: I would like to see this but with a twist. Get rid of moon harvesting with pos. make a cap mining barge for moon mining only, increase m3 on moon goo, and this will balance risk vs reward. NiCE! This is a terrible idea, and redundant now that CCP plans to add planetary ring mining. The whole point of POS moon harvesters is so that people wouldn't sit there with a fleet of 40 hulks mining tech all day.
Inquisitor Magneto Synthetic Security Forces 2	Posted - 2012.04.25 15:25:00 - [35] - Quote I would think, the OP wants to increase mining capacity lvls because in solo one would have to go back and forth to from and to a station to do a good amount of mining. If anything the hulk hold could be increased to allow for larger mining time between dumps. I agree it is a simple application or increase the percentage of the tech 2 cargo optimization rig. I know one does not want to sit there with drones on an orca and mine for hours about hours to just get a portion of mining with respect to me mining in a hulk for a few hours. One solution is to increase the t2 cargo expander or increase the t2 cargo optimization rig. perhaps have a skill to optimize ones ability to manipulate those modules and rigs to increase hold capacity.
Dave stark Black Nova Corp. Cascade Imminent 2	Posted - 2012.04.25 15:43:00 - [36] - Quote Sigras wrote: Im thinking this would be awesome, but with a twist. It mines 2x as much as a hulk, but it takes 4x as much away from the rock that youre mining. For example you're mining from a rock with 100,000 veldspar in it, with a hulk one cycle of all your lasers would give you 14,360 veldspar (perfect skills no bonus/implant) and leave the rock with 85,640 veldspar left. You hit the rock with one cycle of this thing's lasers and you'd get 28,720 veldspar (perfect skills no bonus/implant) but you'd leave the rock with only 42,560 left to mine. This thing would destroy belts, but how "high end" are you willing to go at 1/2 efficiency? I think this would be a reasonable balance against the hulk, allowing you to mine faster but not necessarily better. Also the amount put into your cargohold would be what counted toward the industry index, not the amount removed from the rock so everywhere wont immediately be at level 5 still has double the yield of a hulk. the drawback isn't a drawback. having double the yield means it mines better, how fast an astroid pops is irrelevant.
Sigras Conglomo IMPERIAL LEGI0N 114	Posted - 2012.04.25 22:38:00 - [37] - Quote ^^really? you would still mine arkonor with that thing? wont your alliance mates be pissed off that you wasted half their arkonor?
Katalci Creative Cookie Procuring Veto Corp 73	Posted - 2012.04.25 23:09:00 - [38] - Quote A mining dreadnought, 10-minute siege mode and all, would be both a nice buff to mining in nullsec and small-gang PvP. The yield couldn't be made to be too much more than a regular hulk -- 1.5 to 2 times as much would be good for the added risk and expense. Barbie D0ll wrote: a capital mining ship would be a super carrier using harvester drones and drone mining rigs look who hasn't logged in in 6 months.
jimmyjam Deadspace Exploration Conglomerate Clockwork Pineapple 34	Posted - 2012.04.26 00:13:00 - [39] - Quote stoicfaux wrote: A mining cap ship with jump capability that could only be used in low/null sec? Interesting. Please CCP do the above
Kelvan Hemanseh Hole Exploitation Inc. The Unwilling. 31	Posted - 2012.04.26 00:16:00 - [40] - Quote This already exists, use a regular carrier with as many mining drones as you possibly can fit. Also remember to let us know where you'll be using this mining carrier.
Alpha Crateris Swag Co. SWAG Co 0	Posted - 2012.04.27 03:21:00 - [41] - Quote Seems like a weird concept. Rather than a cap, I'd much rather see something with a little less yield than a Hulk but with an extremely hard to kill tank. A lot of people wouldn't like that though ;)
Lunkwill Khashour Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 71	Posted - 2012.04.27 06:07:00 - [42] - Quote Alpha Crateris wrote: Seems like a weird concept. Rather than a cap, I'd much rather see something with a little less yield than a Hulk but with an extremely hard to kill tank. A lot of people wouldn't like that though ;) It's called a mining Rokh.
Infinite Force Hammer Of Light Covenant of the Phoenix Alliance 67	Posted - 2012.06.04 14:25:00 - [43] - Quote bump :) HROLT CEO Live Free; Die Proud Hammer Mineral Compression -á- The only way to go!
Bugsy VanHalen Society of lost Souls 126	Posted - 2012.06.04 16:30:00 - [44] - Quote Make a capital mining laser and then all dreads/titans could be used as capital mining ships. If 4 capital mining lasers on a dread could match or slightly exceed the yield of a hulk with a capital class tank. That would make for a great solo null sec miner. High risk yes, but any capital class mining ship should be a high risk to undock.
Infinite Force Hammer Of Light Covenant of the Phoenix Alliance 67	Posted - 2012.06.04 16:42:00 - [45] - Quote Bugsy VanHalen wrote: Make a capital mining laser and then all dreads/titans could be used as capital mining ships. If 4 capital mining lasers on a dread could match or slightly exceed the yield of a hulk with a capital class tank. That would make for a great solo null sec miner. High risk yes, but any capital class mining ship should be a high risk to undock. This is a splendid idea! Some would baulk at a dread being used as a miner, but whatever, we used to use them as haulers :) HROLT CEO Live Free; Die Proud Hammer Mineral Compression -á- The only way to go!

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