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orndon
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.04.23 05:46:00 -
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what about a capital mining barge? this is really all i have to say but i think it would be a great idea if it could pull 5.5km3 or so and hold 5 heavy drones and probably a bit more tankable then the hulk, or if capital isnt where you want to take it then a larger version with a battleship hullsize |
nahjustwarpin
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
7
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Posted - 2012.04.23 07:03:00 -
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why? so you would want to make more profit?
next step would be - everybody flies this ship and you wouldn't make that much profit with it.
more people mining more ore = prices drop, so you're not making that much profit anymore.
bad idea |
Barbie D0ll
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
50
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Posted - 2012.04.23 07:11:00 -
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a capital mining ship would be a super carrier using harvester drones and drone mining rigs |
Dave stark
Black Nova Corp.
Cascade Imminent
0
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Posted - 2012.04.23 08:33:00 -
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I would only support a larger class of mining ship if all of the bonuses were in terms of tank/utility and NOT mining yield.
solo mining in a hulk can pull in 5.1k m3 per cycle (without drones). a hulk pulls in 5.6k m3 if you're giving yourself the 10% mining bonus for being a fleet booster or whatever (a feature i regularly use when solo mining and there are some kind people around ratting that don't mind being in a fleet with me, hey it's still solo mining!)
there's no justification for a mining ship with more yield, there is justification for one with a bigger tank or access to some kind of utility, however. perhaps a role bonus relating to the degredation of mining crystals? |
Stetson Eagle
ROC Academy
The ROC
17
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Posted - 2012.04.23 08:42:00 -
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Imo strap addidtional mining turret slots on rorqual, 3 of them, and make the siege mode mine at 3x efficiency.
You can boast that on belts if you want to, win-win for all. |
stoicfaux
961
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Posted - 2012.04.23 12:42:00 -
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A mining cap ship with jump capability that could only be used in low/null sec? Interesting.
You can tell me what is and isn't Truth when you pry the tinfoil from my cold, lifeless head.
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Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
59
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Posted - 2012.04.23 13:11:00 -
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stoicfaux wrote:A mining cap ship with jump capability that could only be used in low/null sec? Interesting.
it sounds pretty sane imo. not only would it get combat ship prices down, thus encouraging more pvp, it would also provide further incentive to actually mine in 0.0 instead of 0.5. |
Drakos Vala
Cold Moon Destruction
0
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Posted - 2012.04.23 13:37:00 -
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suppose it would allow the gankbears something new to play with. |
Skorpynekomimi
Omega Vector
176
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Posted - 2012.04.23 14:01:00 -
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Hulk yield, BS tank and drone bay, tier 3 industrial cargo hold. Carrier sort of size and usage rules.
That's what I think a mining capital should be. |
Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
59
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Posted - 2012.04.23 14:08:00 -
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Skorpynekomimi wrote:Hulk yield, BS tank and drone bay, tier 3 industrial cargo hold. Carrier sort of size and usage rules.
That's what I think a mining capital should be.
i'd throw in ~20% more yield in there for good measure |
MeBiatch
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
302
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Posted - 2012.04.23 14:15:00 -
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make it a tech II carrier... make fighter like mining drones... give the ship bonus to these drones and presto you have a deep null sec mining ship...
PLEX FOR PIZZA!
TECH iii MINNING SHIPS! |
Crellion
Parental Control
14
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Posted - 2012.04.23 14:37:00 -
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stoicfaux wrote:A mining cap ship with jump capability that could only be used in low/null sec? Interesting.
Make it so it can't warp while strip miners are active and its a deal  |
Lord Dravius
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
22
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Posted - 2012.04.23 22:34:00 -
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orndon wrote:what about a capital mining barge? this is really all i have to say but i think it would be a great idea if it could pull 5.5km3 or so and hold 5 heavy drones and probably a bit more tankable then the hulk, or if capital isnt where you want to take it then a larger version with a battleship hullsize
There already is a capital mining barge; Chribba's veldnought. |
Sjugar
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
40
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Posted - 2012.04.23 23:08:00 -
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Put in 5 medium guns on top of the three strip-miners. |
FT Diomedes
Factio Paucorum
59
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Posted - 2012.04.23 23:23:00 -
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Don't forget to add immunity to all E-War. |
Boomhaur
21
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Posted - 2012.04.24 01:40:00 -
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Didn't Chribba beat all of you already with Titan's mining and the Veldnaught. |
Arazel Chainfire
Sons Of 0din
Fatal Ascension
97
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Posted - 2012.04.24 03:15:00 -
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I propose a capital mining ship that has to go into seige mod for 10 minutes, can't be remote assited while seiged, and mines double that of a hulk. Oh, and costs as much as a rorqual. This ship will only be able to move via jumpdrive, and has the fitting of a cruiser...
/me hides my blackops ship fleets...
-Arazel |
Judor
Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse
0
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Posted - 2012.04.24 05:03:00 -
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I would like to see this but with a twist. Get rid of moon harvesting with pos. make a cap mining barge for moon mining only, increase m3 on moon goo, and this will balance risk vs reward. |
AstarothPrime
Eternal Profiteers
Persona Non Gratis
10
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Posted - 2012.04.24 08:06:00 -
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I would second that. No need for extra yield so it dont screw up economy. Let it be carrier sized, yield 20-30% more then a hulk, have carrier size tank and 200-300k m3 worth of ore hold. Ofc it couldnt be able to traverse hisec pretty much like rorqal cant.
I. |
Hemmo Paskiainen
Silver Snake Enterprise
Against ALL Authorities
323
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Posted - 2012.04.24 08:47:00 -
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dumm ignorant carebears.. a cap shop cant be in emp and they would be too slow getting oyt the belts.. noone would use it as the risk on losing it is too big...we all know how carebears ask and think about risk of losing ships....
CCP FIX BLACK OPS FFS |
Lunkwill Khashour
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
68
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Posted - 2012.04.24 10:15:00 -
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orndon wrote:what about a capital mining barge? this is really all i have to say but i think it would be a great idea if it could pull 5.5km3 or so and hold 5 heavy drones and probably a bit more tankable then the hulk, or if capital isnt where you want to take it then a larger version with a battleship hullsize
You want Hulk yield, 5 heavy drones and a bit more tankable than a Hulk.
Basically, ask for a buff to the Hulk: better fitting and more drone bandwidth. |
Stabs McShiv
MINUS4
9
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Posted - 2012.04.24 23:18:00 -
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And a jump drive, Ore hold, corporate hanger array and some of those fluffy dice to hang from the rear view mirror. |
orndon
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.04.25 03:31:00 -
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well doesnt have to be like i said lol but something with a little more utility then a hulk, like the moon mining idea and just being more tankable with a larger hull and drone bay so +1 med slot and + 1 low slot woould suit... ya great ideas guys, when i said hull the size of a battleship i wasnt referring to the fitting slots i just meant bump it up from a medium to a large but i think a slightly larger mining yeild even if its just 2% per skill level there has to be a little more incentive then just tankability since it is a mining vessel |
Cedo Nulli
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
134
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Posted - 2012.04.25 03:39:00 -
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Industrial bridging capability !!! .... For some sweet mining ops in the badlands ! |
Darthewok
Perkone
Caldari State
58
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Posted - 2012.04.25 04:03:00 -
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Hemmo Paskiainen wrote:dumm ignorant carebears.. a cap shop cant be in emp and they would be too slow getting oyt the belts.. noone would use it as the risk on losing it is too big...we all know how carebears ask and think about risk of losing ships....
Actually I expect carebears would use it for completely ungankable, riskless AFK high-sec mining.
Which is why it wouldn't work. Because completely riskless income sources are against the EVE design concept.
CAVEAT RICHARDUS VOLVERE - YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0 |
I Accidentally YourShip
eHarmony Inc.
Brushie Brushie Brushie
162
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Posted - 2012.04.25 04:38:00 -
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A capital mining ship is an excellent idea provided it follows standard cap ship requirements of not being able to enter high sec. A cap ship that is required to be in the belts in the hands of some of the most pvp adverse players in EVE? Yes please. |
I Accidentally YourShip
eHarmony Inc.
Brushie Brushie Brushie
162
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Posted - 2012.04.25 04:38:00 -
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Darthewok wrote:Hemmo Paskiainen wrote:dumm ignorant carebears.. a cap shop cant be in emp and they would be too slow getting oyt the belts.. noone would use it as the risk on losing it is too big...we all know how carebears ask and think about risk of losing ships....
Actually I expect carebears would use it for completely ungankable, riskless AFK high-sec mining. Which is why it wouldn't work. Because completely riskless income sources are against the EVE design concept.
As a cap ship this would not be a factor anyway, it can't go into empire space.
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Darthewok
Perkone
Caldari State
58
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Posted - 2012.04.25 04:49:00 -
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I Accidentally YourShip wrote:Darthewok wrote:Hemmo Paskiainen wrote:dumm ignorant carebears.. a cap shop cant be in emp and they would be too slow getting oyt the belts.. noone would use it as the risk on losing it is too big...we all know how carebears ask and think about risk of losing ships....
Actually I expect carebears would use it for completely ungankable, riskless AFK high-sec mining. Which is why it wouldn't work. Because completely riskless income sources are against the EVE design concept. As a cap ship this would not be a factor anyway, it can't go into empire space.
This is a grey area. Orcas and Freighters can enter high-sec freely.
CAVEAT RICHARDUS VOLVERE - YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0 |
I Accidentally YourShip
eHarmony Inc.
Brushie Brushie Brushie
162
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Posted - 2012.04.25 05:01:00 -
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Darthewok wrote:I Accidentally YourShip wrote:Darthewok wrote:Hemmo Paskiainen wrote:dumm ignorant carebears.. a cap shop cant be in emp and they would be too slow getting oyt the belts.. noone would use it as the risk on losing it is too big...we all know how carebears ask and think about risk of losing ships....
Actually I expect carebears would use it for completely ungankable, riskless AFK high-sec mining. Which is why it wouldn't work. Because completely riskless income sources are against the EVE design concept. As a cap ship this would not be a factor anyway, it can't go into empire space. This is a grey area. Orcas and Freighters can enter high-sec freely.
Both of which are the exception not the rule as every other cap ship including the Rorqual as an industrial cap ship cannot go into empire space and neither of them have anything close to a cap ship level tank. |
Gizan
Hounds Of War
WHY so Seri0Us
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Posted - 2012.04.25 08:14:00 -
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Judor wrote:I would like to see this but with a twist. Get rid of moon harvesting with pos. make a cap mining barge for moon mining only, increase m3 on moon goo, and this will balance risk vs reward.
NiCE! |
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