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Poetic Stanziel
The Fancy Hats Corporation
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Posted - 2012.04.24 01:33:00 -
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Boo f***ing hoo. Now you get to experience the actual game EVE Online. Go on a walkabout, decide what you want to do. The University is great for learning the beginning concepts ... but in the long run, it just stifles the growth of its players.
Consider yourself lucky you get to read your permanent record. I'd love to read my permanent record, I'm sure it would be an amusing read. The STAIN Travel Bookmark Collection - 451 Bookmarks |
Onix Pokemon
PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore
7
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Posted - 2012.04.24 01:40:00 -
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Poetic Stanziel wrote:Boo f***ing hoo. Now you get to experience the actual game EVE Online. Go on a walkabout, decide what you want to do. The University is great for learning the beginning concepts ... but in the long run, it just stifles the growth of its players. Consider yourself lucky you get to read your permanent record. I'd love to read my permanent record, I'm sure it would be an amusing read. Quoted for truth. Staying in the UNI for longer than a few months should only be for a select few people who have the stuff to be in management. Everyone else should move on and let new(er) players take their place. Isn't that how a real University works? |
Poetic Stanziel
The Fancy Hats Corporation
828
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Posted - 2012.04.24 01:43:00 -
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Onix Pokemon wrote: Staying in the UNI for longer than a few months should only be for a select few people who have the stuff to be in management. Everyone else should move on and let new(er) players take their place. Isn't that how a real University works? I've suggested that. :) But now that wardec costs will be tied to membership totals, Kelduum will be trying to retain people for as long as possible.
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Zaxix
Gods of Freight The Toy Box
63
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Posted - 2012.04.24 01:48:00 -
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Irdalth Delrar wrote:As to everyone else, going on about the Uni having special CCP treatment (what special treatment? I have yet to see it) E-UNI is the only player corp in EVE with its public channel as a default listing under the Help chat channels.
I love E-UNI and all it does. The tireless, voluntary efforts of its teachers and administrators are a testament to their commitment to the EVE community. They help to create a foundation for player-driven content in the sandbox.
But, so does Agony Unleashed. So do the Goons. So do many other alliances. None are listed under Help. No other corp in EVE receives free recruitment advertising with the CCP stamp of approval.
Many corporations have based their long term recruitment strategies on a flow of noobs into the corp looking for training and initial supply. All of them are competing with E-UNI for the most important resource in EVE--players. Being anchored to the Help section is a huge advantage in that competition.
Irdalth Delrar wrote:I am the current Director of Public Relations for Eve University.
...while Keld was a bit zealous in this thread... Rule 1 of damage control--apologize immediately and sincerely. Don't minimize or equivocate. Don't send someone else to do it.
Irdalth Delrar wrote:...what special [CCP] treatment? Rule 2--Don't ask open ended questions. They invite answers that require your response. You will be forced to contend the proposition or acknowledge it. Neither does you any good.
Irdalth Delrar wrote:Frankly Gid... Rule 3--Don't feed the trolls. Had you gone with something like my original post, there would have been nothing left for you to say or comment on. The thread would have been left to its own devices. Ideally, no E-UNI member would post in the thread either. It would have soon suffocated under the crushing weight of memes and bile. Instead, that thread topic keeps popping back up to the top, inviting more comment. Really, that is all this guy wants. That thread title just sitting there.
Irdalth Delrar wrote:I often hear people complain... Its usually speculation and rumor. Rule 4--Control your message, and control the conversation. If rumor and speculation have overwhelmed your internal communication plan, that is a serious issue and an indicator of more deeply rooted problems.
Rule 5--Make your statement short, simple, and to the point. Leave no room for further questions or extended conversation. Address any legitimate followup questions about the issue at hand with short, direct answers. The best answer is simply a restatement of the initial statement. End all further comment. Red Frog--Hisec Courier Black Frog--Losec/Nosec Courier
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Mathias Hex
Hillcrest Armaments
114
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Posted - 2012.04.24 02:00:00 -
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I havent seen this much drama play out since...well never! Sorry for your luck OP I'm staying neutral in this debacle since IDK WTF is going on! But I will say I am leaning towards this being a E-UNI RP event... I recall one night in a nightclub called the matrix, there I was... Mother of god there I am! Holy f**k. |
Asuri Kinnes
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
351
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Posted - 2012.04.24 02:36:00 -
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Zaxix wrote:E-UNI is the only player corp in EVE with its public channel as a default listing under the Help chat channels. That's funny as hell, when did that happen?
Zaxix wrote:I love E-UNI and all it does. The tireless, voluntary efforts of its teachers and administrators are a testament to their commitment to the EVE community. They help to create a foundation for player-driven content in the sandbox.
But, so does Agony Unleashed. So do the Goons. So do many other alliances. None are listed under Help. No other corp in EVE receives free recruitment advertising with the CCP stamp of approval. While true the others you've listed all contribute quite a bit (as well as the Noir Academny, RvB), as far as I know, E-U is still the only group that will take just about anyone and do it for free...
Far as I know Goons won't accept just anyone, and Agony/Noir charge for their services....
Wormholes: The *NEW* end game of Eve - Online: No Local. No Lag. No Blues (No Intell Channesl). No Blobs.
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Masamune Dekoro
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
83
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Posted - 2012.04.24 02:51:00 -
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Onix Pokemon wrote: Quoted for truth. Staying in the UNI for longer than a few months should only be for a select few people who have the stuff to be in management. Everyone else should move on and let new(er) players take their place. Isn't that how a real University works?
In real Uni, the only people who stay on are the ones who are too socially inept to get a job, at least as far as Engineering and most of the sciences are concerned.
If there's one thing that I got from this delicious thread, it's that Uni blobs still can't kill a solo Tengu. That is truly sad news. |
Kengutsi Akira
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
442
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Posted - 2012.04.24 02:59:00 -
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Masamune Dekoro wrote:Onix Pokemon wrote: Quoted for truth. Staying in the UNI for longer than a few months should only be for a select few people who have the stuff to be in management. Everyone else should move on and let new(er) players take their place. Isn't that how a real University works?
In real Uni, the only people who stay on are the ones who are too socially inept to get a job, at least as far as Engineering and most of the sciences are concerned. If there's one thing that I got from this delicious thread, it's that Uni blobs still can't kill a solo Tengu. That is truly sad news.
And Van Vilder
Asuri Kinnes wrote:Zaxix wrote:E-UNI is the only player corp in EVE with its public channel as a default listing under the Help chat channels. That's funny as hell, when did that happen? Zaxix wrote:I love E-UNI and all it does. The tireless, voluntary efforts of its teachers and administrators are a testament to their commitment to the EVE community. They help to create a foundation for player-driven content in the sandbox.
But, so does Agony Unleashed. So do the Goons. So do many other alliances. None are listed under Help. No other corp in EVE receives free recruitment advertising with the CCP stamp of approval. While true the others you've listed all contribute quite a bit (as well as the Noir Academny, RvB), as far as I know, E-U is still the only group that will take just about anyone and do it for free... Far as I know Goons won't accept just anyone, and Agony/Noir charge for their services....
Holy crap if Goons were listed under the help channel lol https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1109909#post1109909
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Pres Crendraven
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.04.24 03:04:00 -
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That was a bad look into how a large corporation is run. |
Patient 2428190
DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School
191
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Posted - 2012.04.24 03:14:00 -
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Asuri Kinnes wrote:2008 wants it's thread back...Really, it's amazing to me that a group of incompetent egoists has been able to keep the Uni running for so long, when it's *OBVIOUS* that they couldn't keep a ball rolling downhill with a tailwind...
Not only have they been in highsec pretty much this entire time, the past two years they've had the benefit of wardec exploiting to protect themselves, Going forward, they managed to cry their way into a more favorable set of rules and I doubt they'll ever face any repercussions for the evasion exploits they have been running with.
Maybe you can argue they did the right things when they had to put wardec rules in to stop them from getting farmed from the privateers/empire wardeccers of old, but now... all they need to exist is server space.
Hey, more power to you if you think the sign of a well run organization is exploiting for years and not getting punished.
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Vetorept Fera
Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
48
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Posted - 2012.04.24 03:19:00 -
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Eve Online, just as in real life- has douchebag bosses in positions of power. This is a necessary evil for anyone who must operate within a heirarchy.
Also: space politics lol In pace requiescat |
Mars Theran
EVE Rogues EVE Rogues Alliance
143
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Posted - 2012.04.24 03:21:00 -
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Kelduum Revaan wrote:Post reserved for future lulz when I get home. Short summary: "I contributed this freely to an open community, and now I want my name on it. I demanded that, and hassled everyone up the chain until I got to the CEO despite being told to wait, and got kicked and everything I had done removed." Or, in very short: "I acted like a **** and generated 6 pages of forum posts about my conduct, so I got kicked out." Edit: Actually, I may just open his specific record to the public... that would make some good reading I suppose. Edit 2 at 17:59 - I thought I may as well open his record for the sake of transparency (link to the Uni forums with the full record of what we had posted in his thread), however as many of you will be able to see, he really doesn't leave things alone. Impatient would be one way of putting it.
Well, you just lost respect. That was a prickish thing to do, but you may have just stuck yourself with your own knife. Also, thanks for pointing out how much of a group of arrogant sodding jerks your directors are by opening this hidden chat to the public.
If anyone actually bothers to go through and read this, they'll jhust see the lot of them sitting back talking **** and trash about people who can't read these forums generally. Sure, I see they give the OP half a chance without really bothering to speak with him or settle his mind on the matter. Kind of like Roman Senators of old talking about the livestock, (slaves), and discussing what to do about the ones that are disrupting their daily affairs with complaints and pointless intrusions.
You don't really know how you look do you?
I'l just let wikipedia spell it out for you: Quote:"narcissism" usually is used to describe some kind of problem in a person or group's relationships with self and others. In everyday speech, "narcissism" often means egoism, vanity, conceit, or simple selfishness. Applied to a social group, it is sometimes used to denote elitism or an indifference to the plight of others.
Anyone notice any similarities between what is happening in that thread and this definition?
But you're worse than that, because everytime I see this it makes my blood boil and I can feel the hate on the tip of my tongue like poison. My face burns like acid touched it and I feel the need to meet justice out upon the likes of you.
Ever wonder why? Turn WiS into wIN! ..make all the characters Nude. |
Poetic Stanziel
The Fancy Hats Corporation
828
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Posted - 2012.04.24 03:59:00 -
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Gideon Tyler wrote:Kelduum I'm curious. How many votes did you cast in the CSM7 election? How many of those for Kelduum?
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Poetic Stanziel
The Fancy Hats Corporation
828
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Posted - 2012.04.24 04:02:00 -
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Caldari Citizen 786478786 wrote:I have just one thing to say to Mr. Gideon.
You, sir, are one sad, pathetic 45 year old man. Some men at 45 have a wife or girlfriend, maybe some children, a real life and a job, but you, fine sir, you chose a different path. I applaud you, good sir, for reminding us all that life can and does exist outside of established societal norms and the depths that a man can sink when he loses his grip on reality.
May your mental illness herald the dangers of repeated blows to the head for generations of capsuleers to come. Ah, Caldari Citizen 786478786. Or, as the rest of us know him, Silentbrick. The STAIN Travel Bookmark Collection - 451 Bookmarks |
Jessie-A Tassik
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
72
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Posted - 2012.04.24 04:15:00 -
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Justice Comes wrote:Zaxix wrote:Kelduum Revaan wrote:Post reserved for future lulz when I get home... Edit: Actually, I may just open his specific record to the public... that would make some good reading I suppose. Edit 2 at 17:59 - I thought I may as well open his record for the sake of transparency (link to the Uni forums with the full record of what we had posted in his thread), however as many of you will be able to see, he really doesn't leave things alone. Impatient would be one way of putting it. Here's what you should have said: "E-UNI released [Name] from service on [date]. He was released because of internal disagreements over authorial attributions. E-UNI is dedicated to training and educating new capsuleers. The materials collected on our wiki and forum represent the work of hundreds of individuals over many years. While attribution is important, disputes about it do not justify disruptive actions and discord. It is unfortunate that we had to resolve the situation in this manner, and we are sad to lose [Name]'s expertise in his field. We wish him well in his next endeavor and look forward to many more years of helping pilots have fun in EVE." ^That. There was an opportunity to end this by probably page ~4 by taking a page from what real employers do (see above). "Opening up his file" is just crap. What happens the next time someone posts something you guys disagree with on the forum? You will have to "open it on up" just to make sure the masses know you're "right" again, which now means that nothing on that forum is actually private. Same for eve mails. If I was an E-UNI student, I would be quite worried about the discretion of any concerns I had communicated to management at this point because you have revealed just how quickly you will pull this trigger and for just how trivial of a matter. You may think revealing it all proved your side but it did nothing of the sort. All you did was sink into the mud with him right in front of the very people you hoped to convince. Not that the OP should have posted this in the first place. If nothing else, he should have known this wouldn't get him what he wanted (after failing in private), but out of the 2 parties here, E-UNI is the one people would look to for professionalism or classy handling of a difficult situation, not a disgruntled ex-member. BAD! *smacks everyone on the knuckles and runs*
I just love it when people tell me that the "moral high ground" is best held by sitting down, shutting up, and letting scumbags take credit for my work or whatever else they feel like doing. And if they fire me and I still keep quiet, I get double moral high ground points!
Nobody really believe this, not even the poster. |
Jessie-A Tassik
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
72
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Posted - 2012.04.24 04:17:00 -
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Sasha Azala wrote:
I agree with this except for 'Not that the OP should have posted this in the first place.' because angry people don't always use their best judgment especially when they feel they're not being treated fairly.
But by definition, an angry person is weak, and weak people deserve what happens to them, so therefore the OP deserves what he got.
Just interpreting things for the humans in the thread. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1631
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Posted - 2012.04.24 04:40:00 -
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Mars Theran wrote:Kelduum Revaan wrote:Post reserved for future lulz when I get home. Short summary: "I contributed this freely to an open community, and now I want my name on it. I demanded that, and hassled everyone up the chain until I got to the CEO despite being told to wait, and got kicked and everything I had done removed." Or, in very short: "I acted like a **** and generated 6 pages of forum posts about my conduct, so I got kicked out." Edit: Actually, I may just open his specific record to the public... that would make some good reading I suppose. Edit 2 at 17:59 - I thought I may as well open his record for the sake of transparency (link to the Uni forums with the full record of what we had posted in his thread), however as many of you will be able to see, he really doesn't leave things alone. Impatient would be one way of putting it. Well, you just lost respect. That was a prickish thing to do, but you may have just stuck yourself with your own knife. Also, thanks for pointing out how much of a group of arrogant sodding jerks your directors are by opening this hidden chat to the public. If anyone actually bothers to go through and read this, they'll jhust see the lot of them sitting back talking **** and trash about people who can't read these forums generally. Sure, I see they give the OP half a chance without really bothering to speak with him or settle his mind on the matter. Kind of like Roman Senators of old talking about the livestock, (slaves), and discussing what to do about the ones that are disrupting their daily affairs with complaints and pointless intrusions. You don't really know how you look do you? I'l just let wikipedia spell it out for you: Quote:"narcissism" usually is used to describe some kind of problem in a person or group's relationships with self and others. In everyday speech, "narcissism" often means egoism, vanity, conceit, or simple selfishness. Applied to a social group, it is sometimes used to denote elitism or an indifference to the plight of others. Anyone notice any similarities between what is happening in that thread and this definition? But you're worse than that, because everytime I see this it makes my blood boil and I can feel the hate on the tip of my tongue like poison. My face burns like acid touched it and I feel the need to meet justice out upon the likes of you. Ever wonder why?
Because you don't have the faintest clue how a company, be it in real life or in EVE, actually works?
Because you are going waaay over the top and seem to have emotional issues?
Because you've never been in a position where the time you have to spend on individual issues is very limited, and you inevitably have to deal with people who believe you are only there to serve their needs above all others?
Am I getting warm? When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
Myxx
Blacklight Incorporated Broken Chains Alliance
510
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Posted - 2012.04.24 04:57:00 -
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And this is why I chose to vote for Aleksey instead of Keldruum. Keld yet again shows his ego is more important to him than anything else. |
Sid Hudgens
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Posted - 2012.04.24 05:09:00 -
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Truth be told I could only make through a couple pages before I started skimming ... but it would appear that there's hardly anyone in this thread who doesn't need to ******* relax.
Seriously. Everyone take your blanket and go sit in the corner and have a time-out. "....as if 10,058 Goon voices cried out and were suddenly silenced." |
Xavier Bandar
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.04.24 05:44:00 -
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Mars Theran wrote:If anyone actually bothers to go through and read this, they'll jhust see the lot of them sitting back talking **** and trash about people who can't read these forums generally. Sure, I see they give the OP half a chance without really bothering to speak with him or settle his mind on the matter. Kind of like Roman Senators of old talking about the livestock, (slaves), and discussing what to do about the ones that are disrupting their daily affairs with complaints and pointless intrusions.
You don't really know how you look do you?
I think they look all right, to be honest. I'm a moderator on a large message board and I tend to be much more abrasive when I'm discussing my underlings' asshattery with my fellow moderators. Also, the notion of having an 8-page discussion about any single member appears ludicrous to me. This dude would have been banned about halfway the second page on our board. That thread on the E-UNI-forum is a testament to the incredible amount of patience and willingness to resolve **** quietly some of those guys have. Either that or they're just too lazy to rule with an iron fist.
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Poetic Stanziel
The Fancy Hats Corporation
830
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Posted - 2012.04.24 05:49:00 -
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Myxx wrote:Keld yet again shows his ego is more important to him than anything else. He has 1500 people who are exceptionally eager to stroke it. Kelduum does call on them to do just that whenever he's feeling a tad low. The STAIN Travel Bookmark Collection - 451 Bookmarks |
Degren
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
148
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Posted - 2012.04.24 06:38:00 -
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Holy jesus fuckwads, reading those evemails was painful in the extreme. I'm *military* and even I was uncomfortable with the horrific level of over-the-top office-style control-freakery.
Go the **** outsiiiiiide
Edit: On *BOTH* sides |
Auranor
Tisdekeria Armada Engineers of Fate
0
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Posted - 2012.04.24 06:41:00 -
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Gideon Tyler wrote:As many of you know, Eve University is a large, presumably the largest teaching corporation in EVE Online. While there, I graduated, served as an Associate Teacher, a Teacher, and briefly as an Assistant Training Manager. I recently pioneered a new class for the Eve Uni Curriculum called Hauling 201: Low Sec Hauling, which instructed students how to fit/rig T1 Industrial Vessels to haul in low sec space in reasonable safety and with large profits
After teaching this class several times, I noticed a post in which a new student was trying to post proposed class on the Eve University Wiki called Hauling 101 and 102: Low Sec Hauling I looked at the details and found beyond all doubt that indeed this was my class being posted as another persons work, without citing me as the original source
I naturally took this very seriously as this was an act of plagiarism. For those that do not know, plagiarism is using the work of another without either their express consent or acknowledging the author as the source of the information used/posted. Upon questioning the player who did this freely admitted that he was using my work, but stated he had no ill-intent
Easy fix right? Just change the wiki page to reflect my class name Hauling 201: Low Sec Hauling and cite me as the source
Not so in Eve University, I was treated as if I was causing trouble by heavy-handed and rude management. I protested and asked to speak to my Director, his reply was to suspend me of all roles and titles without having even speaking to me first to get all sides of the issue. I was stripped of my management role, my teaching role, and reduced to member at large, just like that
In the end, I was told that I was losing my management status, (no reason given) but that as I was a talented instructor, I could remain a Teacher at Eve University, provided I waived all rights to my intellectual property and did not require that I receive any credit regarding my contributions to the Eve University Wiki. I declined the offer, and without any further notice was dismissed from Eve University, given a -9.9 Diplomatic status, banned from the Eve University forums, banned from Eve University Mumble, and placed on their vaunted "Departed List" in which they seek to blacklist people they do not like and/or kick for this, that or the other reason. Sometimes for cause but certainly not in this case
Eve University can teach you a lot about Eve and in a short time, but understand this, the management is very heavy-handed and frankly very unprofessional, and this is tolerated and even encouraged by Kelduum Revaan, CEO of Eve University and CSM. We have a corporation with a large mission, high ideals, and a good Code of Conduct, unfortunately, that is only applied to the rank and file. E-UNI management gets a free pass, unless like in my case, you tick off someone higher than you in management as well
This organization, like its leader Kelduum Revaan, is remarkably un-reflective in its actions and way of doing business, is very opaque and arbitrary where concepts like fair play, respect for others, looking at the objective facts of a matter are concerned, as opposed to petty politics and other such concerns all dominate without much regard for justice or that there are real people on the other end of the chat bar
Good basic teaching, toxic corporate management. This was the UNI rep, and still is sadly. Mittens and the Goons have nothing on the Eve Uni Management in either stupidity, nor wretchedness.
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Ciar Meara
Virtus Vindice
631
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Posted - 2012.04.24 06:52:00 -
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OP sounds like an annoying man.
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Beat General
Sons of Retribution Malice Alliance
30
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Posted - 2012.04.24 06:53:00 -
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Burn EvE-Uni to the ground. |
Landrae
Sinners Among Saints Tus Network
311
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Posted - 2012.04.24 06:58:00 -
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Just getting INB4 lock for spam / flame war. Don't mind me, carry on.
My cow collapsed, and now there's a human to animal infection outbreak among illegal immigrants. |
ILikeMarkets
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
105
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Posted - 2012.04.24 07:09:00 -
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Wow reading that "permanent record" and all the social rejects taking this stuff as super serious business has made me REALLY glad I never joined EVE Uni. lol The Mittani discussing, long before the alcohol, what his panel will be about. It is entitled "Goonswarm Hates You".-á Enjoy! Be sure to go re-read his "Apology" after listening to compare his claims. :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=SKC00a0ovTA#t=413s |
Sasha Azala
Blood and Decay
270
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Posted - 2012.04.24 08:43:00 -
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Jessie-A Tassik wrote:Sasha Azala wrote:
I agree with this except for 'Not that the OP should have posted this in the first place.' because angry people don't always use their best judgment especially when they feel they're not being treated fairly.
But by definition, an angry person is weak, and weak people deserve what happens to them, so therefore the OP deserves what he got. Just interpreting things for the humans in the thread.
I guess you might see it that way if you're a complete moron with a total lack of understanding about people. |
Jacob Stiller
The Scope Gallente Federation
1266
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Posted - 2012.04.24 08:44:00 -
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The court of public opinion is so divided on this issue that I may I have to read this "permanent record." You all are failing at your job to digest the primary documents and tell me what my opinion should be. Thinking is time consuming you know! |
Sasha Azala
Blood and Decay
270
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Posted - 2012.04.24 08:50:00 -
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Xavier Bandar wrote:Mars Theran wrote:If anyone actually bothers to go through and read this, they'll jhust see the lot of them sitting back talking **** and trash about people who can't read these forums generally. Sure, I see they give the OP half a chance without really bothering to speak with him or settle his mind on the matter. Kind of like Roman Senators of old talking about the livestock, (slaves), and discussing what to do about the ones that are disrupting their daily affairs with complaints and pointless intrusions.
You don't really know how you look do you?
I think they look all right, to be honest. I'm a moderator on a large message board and I tend to be much more abrasive when I'm discussing my underlings' asshattery with my fellow moderators. Also, the notion of having an 8-page discussion about any single member appears ludicrous to me. This dude would have been banned about halfway the second page on our board. That thread on the E-UNI-forum is a testament to the incredible amount of patience and willingness to resolve **** quietly some of those guys have. Either that or they're just too lazy to rule with an iron fist.
Because you're a moderator we should take more notice of you?
There are good and bad moderators just as there are good and bad managers. |
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