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Homo Erectus
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Posted - 2003.06.20 09:07:00 -
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after looking at that screenshot...
ban those exploiting pussies. jesus christ. |
PropanElgen
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Posted - 2003.06.20 11:35:00 -
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M0o aren't pirates.
They are on a mission to cause CCP loss of income by bashing on newbies.
And MORPHEUS: Time for you to change dipers.
All the angels and the puny men of god looked away...
Frightened to death by the evil that was born on that day!
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Blackwood
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Posted - 2003.06.20 11:38:00 -
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All this game needs to do to fix the cargo lag exploit is to give the players the choice to come out of warp early, like 100km from the target. Problem solved.
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Davian Windspear
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Posted - 2003.06.20 11:51:00 -
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Man Im really gutted, I thought at first moo were cool for bringing the pirate element into the game, these guys make it exciting and give us someone real to fight. But the more i hear about them the less i think of them.
The container thing is very lame. What fun is there even for moo if you just win by lagging the game out. Thats the equivalant of asking me for a match at soulblade on the ps2 and then unplugging my controller. Its not a win for you cause you had to cheat. I agree in using underhand tactics, your a pirate!! And running when you are outnumbered as pirates will do and hit and run raids are cool but to lag others out and to cheat is not cool.
How much more we would have thought of you if you had taken the battleship out and lost some of your good ships but done it without lag, then withdrawn. I have to say i have seen spectal armada at work and they seem "better" . I began to have my doubts about moo when i saw they were hanging around outside stations blowing people up and docking before they could be attacked, its just very lame, you strike me as losers who cant deal with reality. If you are gonna be pirates then do it with balls!! Stick to the world rules, dont complain when the navy comes after you, its what would happen in the world!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thats just my opinion.
****Moo are now official losers!!!!!!! When i see you im gonna kick your ass so keep an eye out ;) *****
Edited by: Davian Windspear on 20/06/2003 11:52:18 |
Reinhart
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Posted - 2003.06.20 12:01:00 -
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I love this pirate thing...I'll even give little bit of credit to the kids of moo for stirring it up a little.
But it's only a matter of time before they get wiped from EVE...the tension is mounting and there's people now only dedicated to the demise of moo.
One of the above posts got the tactics spot on I think...if anyone plans an attack on moo
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Athule Snanm
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Posted - 2003.06.20 14:42:00 -
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Well previously I've semi-supported M0o (and allies) behaviour in convos with people, but that screenshot is disgraceful. Even after being killed myself by Morpheus and a couple of others. Seeing that though changes my opinion completely. Deliberately using lag to kill players is blatently cheating, and is regarded so in other games. I don't see why EVE should be any different.
Have fun
Finn
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Zuul
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Posted - 2003.06.20 17:14:00 -
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The canister trick is definitely an exploit. CCP's tolerance of it is making me lose faith in the company's ability to provide a positive gaming experience for most of its subscribers. Maybe they will change their tune as their subscription numbers drop off.
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Cortex Reaver
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Posted - 2003.06.20 18:34:00 -
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Dropping a "wall" of cans is not an exploit. Its purpose is to make it difficult to target the ships behind it. And it probably does make the game client take longer to render what's going on, but it does the same thing to those who made the "wall" too. Infact, it's also harder to target other ships from behind the wall.
Deploying decoys is an age-old battle tactic. Military planes drop chaff and flares to foil missiles. ICBMs split into MIRVs - most of 'em dummy warheads to overwelm and confuse anti-missile systems. Ground forces deploy dummy tanks to make the enemy waste ammo and slow down the targeting of real tanks.
Deploying a screen of cannisters is a tactic, not an exploit. . . it effects the dumper and the dumpee the same way.
Find something besides m0o to blame for your woeful lack of skills and quality weaponry.
-CR
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temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
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Acix
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Posted - 2003.06.20 18:56:00 -
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Saying that cargo containers are camo is like Tommy Chong (of Cheech and Chong) selling his glass water pipes (bongs) to be used only for tobacco.
SNIGG is now officially open for business. We are a merc corp looking for contracts.
For more info click below
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=68313 |
Homo Erectus
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Posted - 2003.06.20 20:11:00 -
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Ah, this is the part where the people who are exploiting a bug, try to defend the bug, with real life explanations.
God(the maker of this game, CCP) says what you are doing is an exploit. You know this. Whatever you think about it now is irrelevant. It is an exploit.
I hope they ban every member of m0o. Not because you're unbeatable, quite the contrary. Because you are unplayable.
Testing on your exploit by the way, shows that the people who have already been in the area with the hundreds of cargo containers, clearly have an advantage over those who are warping in after them. In a planetary area with ~145 cargo containers, in which I was present, a gangmate warped in and it took him 31 seconds for his ship to accept commands. It took mine 1.
m0o, you don't have a leg to stand on. Defending yourselves instead of simply apologizing at this point is only going to make your expedition more swift. |
Davian Windspear
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Posted - 2003.06.21 10:56:00 -
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Oh My God!! You guys are so funny, do you really believe you are not cheating. You know that the enemy auto locks when you lock on them, without this maybe your tactic would be valid but even if it is not a cheat it is still very very lame and takes away any shine from your kill.
You can't say the lag is the same for both of you!! You have dropped the cans and your computer has had time to load them all, when someone jumps in they have to load all the cans up and you know very well this gives you nearly a minute or more of free shots when they are dead in the water!!!! You cannot seriously say its not cheating.
Also dont blame it one CCP, thats like blaming people who steal on governments or police, there will always be cheats possible, its up to us not to use them. I myself know of a good cheat but i do not use it because what is the point in the end, this is about fun in the end. MOo could have been really great, you were the guys we loved to hate but now it seems we just hate you.
I dont want you thrown out because you make the game amazing, where will the fun be in running obe and mara without you, what will the corps have to stand up against without you? But I would rather lose you then have you all take the fun out of the "game" there will be serious corps out there who will be evil pirates to kick our asses without unpluging our cable connection first so they can do it lol.
Remember waiting to suprise at the gates is fair :) hit and run is fair :) superior numbers is fair :) jamming is fair, taking the other person on when he's not loaded up (lol)is not
Later guys hope you realise your mistake, and if you fight "fair" next time i will be very impressed. |
Katanga Juros
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Posted - 2003.06.21 23:02:00 -
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While I dislike player pirate corps immensely I do recognise that they bring something needed into this game to make it interesting for a lot of other players.
However, with that said I must say you are either so dense its insane or you are unfortunately providing better tactics that CCP had expected.
I prefer to think its the latter myself, you being the entire MO0 corp that is not you personally. Whilst the tactic might seem to be working it is unfortuately something that a lot of people are going to hate.
Whether by your design the "wall" is to screen yourselves is basically immaterial as it does indeed lag a lot of people out. In my eyes it is an exploit and if CCP think along those lines as well then they will take action.
Take some friendly advice and stop using it. You have seen so much pvp combat by now that I expect you have the skills/equipment by now to have no need of such tactics.
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Alien8
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Posted - 2003.06.22 09:27:00 -
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Quote ""
Dropping a "wall" of cans is not an exploit. Its purpose is to make it difficult to target the ships behind it. And it probably does make the game client take longer to render what's going on, but it does the same thing to those who made the "wall" too. Infact, it's also harder to target other ships from behind the wall.
Deploying a screen of cannisters is a tactic, not an exploit. . . it effects the dumper and the dumpee the same way.
-CR
End Quote ""
Lets look at this lame explanation....he says that the containers are there to make ships behind the wall harder to target and then goes and says "Infact, it's also harder to target other ships from behind the wall."
So this is obviously a flawed tactic so why persist on using it?
Unless its to lag opponents... ;)
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Tehel Necrona
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Posted - 2003.06.22 14:22:00 -
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Well as an industrialist operating in Lonetrek things are very interesting these days, the bronx of eve has seen a lot of action, not to mention m0o's expendition to Obe to take out Lucfier and Chandra.
I hope to see more involvement on either side (yes i think we'll see more ppl assisting m0o if corn get's more allies, we could have a full on universal war here :))) ).
-Necro
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