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Richard Aiel
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2011.05.03 05:02:00 -
[2431]
 Originally by: Amber Accelerando
i don't see how CCP releasing numbers could be a bad thing, unless those numbers are extremely low & reflect a cultural complacency withing the Company towards Macro gaming.
really cant be any worse than their history of this has been so far.
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Vincent Athena
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Posted - 2011.05.04 15:30:00 -
[2432]
CCP Sreggs: Any word on when we get your blog on the anti-bot effort?
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Mr Kidd
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Posted - 2011.05.04 18:02:00 -
[2433]
Originally by: Richard Aiel
It comes down to trust CCP or dont. They will NEVER post numbers or names or anything.
Im voting with my wallet, you wont see me posting again after 5/21/11 as thats when my sub runs out and I wont be back.
For the "yeah lots of ppl say that" people
remember the date if you think Im lying lol
Can I has your stuff?
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Hectanooga
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Posted - 2011.05.04 18:24:00 -
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Originally by: Richard Aiel
It comes down to trust CCP or dont. They will NEVER post numbers or names or anything.
Im voting with my wallet, you wont see me posting again after 5/21/11 as thats when my sub runs out and I wont be back.
For the "yeah lots of ppl say that" people
remember the date if you think Im lying lol
I see what you did there... are you the annoying person that keeps dropping those "warning" cans all over gates?
Teh endz0rz!
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Ingvar Angst
Amarr
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
Talocan United
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Posted - 2011.05.04 19:15:00 -
[2435]
Originally by: Richard Aiel
It comes down to trust CCP or dont. They will NEVER post numbers or names or anything.
Im voting with my wallet, you wont see me posting again after 5/21/11 as thats when my sub runs out and I wont be back.
For the "yeah lots of ppl say that" people
remember the date if you think Im lying lol
I'm still looking for the place where we're supposed to care. Silly eThreats mean nothing.
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Crucis Cassiopeiae
Amarr
PORSCHE AG
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Posted - 2011.05.05 17:21:00 -
[2436]
Originally by: Vincent Athena
CCP Sreggs: Any word on when we get your blog on the anti-bot effort?
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"Everybody's at war with different things... I'm at war with my own heart sometimes" (by 2Pac) |
Paul Mustaka Hekard
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Posted - 2011.05.06 15:24:00 -
[2437]
Originally by: Vincent Athena
CCP Sreggs: Any word on when we get your blog on the anti-bot effort?
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Aurum Gallente
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Posted - 2011.05.07 11:38:00 -
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CCP is not interested in banning. EVE becomes boring. I will not pay for a game anymore. I can play with bots free of charge in X2 or X3.
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Caldari Acolyte
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Posted - 2011.05.07 13:32:00 -
[2439]
Look, other gaming companies have delt with BOTS swiftly. This company has nothing but excuses, draw your own conclusions, nothing complicated about it.
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Speaker4 theDead
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Posted - 2011.05.07 14:08:00 -
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Originally by: Caldari Acolyte
Look, other gaming companies have delt with BOTS swiftly. This company has nothing but excuses, draw your own conclusions, nothing complicated about it.
You really have no clue do you?
Botting has going on in games since the advent of the Internet. And no matter what any game company claims, they can't stop them or get rid of them without ruining their own game.
In fact, I would bet if CCP were actually able to remove all the bots from the game, they'd be out of business in a year...
So get over yourself and go outside for a change, it's affecting your judgement.
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Arnakoz
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Posted - 2011.05.07 14:36:00 -
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Originally by: Caldari Acolyte
Look, other gaming companies have delt with BOTS swiftly. This company has nothing but excuses, draw your own conclusions, nothing complicated about it.
there is NO other gaming company that has been able to remove bots. instead they simply put spyware on you're comp and continue to fail at stopping botting and RMT... WoW is the best example here.
botting scripts are a lot like computer viruses - invent an antivirus and a new version of the virus is made.
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.05.07 20:09:00 -
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So lets then go for the CCP approach, remove all your firewalls, antivirus products, and start using IE6 on an unupdated windows 95, since a virusscanner also isnt perfect 
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Ak'athra J'ador
Amarr
Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2011.05.07 21:04:00 -
[2443]
Originally by: Speaker4 theDead
You really have no clue do you?
Originally by: Speaker4 theDead
they can't stop them or get rid of them without ruining their own game.
not true, but you aren't providing any arguments or examples so you aren't really looking for a debate. You are just insulting somebody who wants a bot free game. weather he is naive in his thinking is irrelevant, the fact remains, that makes you a troll.
Originally by: Speaker4 theDead
In fact, I would bet if CCP were actually able to remove all the bots from the game, they'd be out of business in a year...
oh please sir, do elaborate
Originally by: Speaker4 theDead
So get over yourself and go outside for a change, it's affecting your judgement.
well I cant really argue with that, its good advice...you should probably listen to it
Originally by: Arnakoz
there is NO other gaming company that has been able to remove bots.
I don't think he meant complete removal. I think we all know that is not possible, but we don't realle need complete removal do we?
Originally by: Arnakoz
instead they simply put spyware on you're comp
well not that simple actually, there was a lawsuit, and the whole controversial question of ownership of a running program on your ram. Turns out its not yours...but we are getting a bit off topic here.
Originally by: Arnakoz
continue to fail at stopping botting and RMT...
Again, don't need to stop it, we just want to slow it down to where it is no longer effective
Originally by: Arnakoz
WoW is the best example here.
Again, I am not sure you can argue this. Do you know what wow would look like if no actions at all were taken against botting? I mean I remember playing linage II on a private server ages ago and there it was normal for everyone to have healer bots. You would rarely see someone running around without another character running behind him healing him and buffing him. If Blizzard hadn't made its stance on botting clear and if they hadn't developed what you refer to as useless spyware perhaps wow would today look like that as well?
Originally by: Arnakoz
botting scripts are a lot like computer viruses - invent an antivirus and a new version of the virus is made.
Well that is actually true...somewhat. See there is no cost if a virus gets caught. Whomever made it simply makes a new one. However if a bot gets caught, and you ban the user, he has to pay the cost. That of the subscription and that of his character. And if that is a hulk running character or a battleship flying character, that costs quite a few subscription months of training.
And while CCP is incompetent, other companies don't ban players when a new iteration of a bot comes out. They wait for the bot to become widespread, and then do a mass ban.
So as a company you can go to all the bot websites, and buy all the widespread bots. Study them, find patterns, and write software that will detect them. And then you do a mass ban. And you don't have to make it perfect, you don't have to find each and every bot. You just need to find the ones that are publicly available for purchase and ban those using them. And I agree with you. We will probably never get all of them, but if we shut down 90%, would that really be so bad?
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Arnakoz
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Posted - 2011.05.07 22:02:00 -
[2444]
Originally by: Ak'athra J'ador
[...]We will probably never get all of them, but if we shut down 90%, would that really be so bad?
i think you are talking more about individuals' bots rather than RMT bots. yeah, its not hard to limit the amount of individuals running bots. from where i stand all gaming companies have been wholly unable to limit RMT over the long run. just some dips here and there.
but, yes, focusing on the players couldn't hurt. it may or may not end with more demand for RMT... but that's a separate issue really.
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Aquila Draco
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Posted - 2011.05.09 08:13:00 -
[2445]
Originally by: Vincent Athena
CCP Sreggs: Any word on when we get your blog on the anti-bot effort?
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Kuseka Adama
Gallente
Northstar Cabal
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Posted - 2011.05.09 13:16:00 -
[2446]
Originally by: Aquila Draco
Originally by: Vincent Athena
CCP Sreggs: Any word on when we get your blog on the anti-bot effort?
If it doesn't include a direct hit on the Russian Aspect of this situation it doesn't matter.
I was hoping for a wipe of null sec and a cataclysm of capitals when BoB was in charge. Now that i return i find myself hoping for another wipe of null sec but this time a cataclysm of Both caps and super caps...
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Mikk36
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.05.10 08:30:00 -
[2447]
RMT by itself isn't that bad, currently it's that bad because the ISK comes from endless pits, not legitimate sources.
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Xtreem
Gallente
Fire Mandrill
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Posted - 2011.05.10 08:47:00 -
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I just want a blog telling us some decent info tbh
how many were banned for 14 days
how many came back and did not bot
how many came back and did bot
how many that did come back and bot got re banned?
how much isk was taken out the game
how much assets were taken out of game
just usefull stuff... failing that CCP need to hire me to get some **** rolling!
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Virtue Maulerant
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Posted - 2011.05.10 09:11:00 -
[2449]
********** is full of botters.Stupid ****s deserve what they are getting.
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Angel Fudge
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Posted - 2011.05.10 09:16:00 -
[2450]
Are botters still only getting banned for 3 days for the first offense or was the right thing done and they changed it?
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Xtreem
Gallente
Fire Mandrill
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Posted - 2011.05.10 09:23:00 -
[2451]
Originally by: Angel Fudge
Are botters still only getting banned for 3 days for the first offense or was the right thing done and they changed it?
14 days for 95% of them according to the botting forums
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Mikk36
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.05.10 09:23:00 -
[2452]
Quote:
PublicDemands For Sale
www.publicdemands.co.uk domain is for sale, for anyone who wants to carry on the eve bot legacy.
Othran, good work :)
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Wayne Slob
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2011.05.10 11:12:00 -
[2453]
Originally by: Xtreem
I just want a blog telling us some decent info tbh
how many were banned for 14 days
how many came back and did not bot
how many came back and did bot
how many that did come back and bot got re banned?
how much isk was taken out the game
how much assets were taken out of game
just usefull stuff... failing that CCP need to hire me to get some **** rolling!
This would indeed be interesting information.
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Gallion
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.05.10 12:17:00 -
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To everything wrong with this post in general its pratically TRolling. you want this stuff to stop then do something about it, your playing this game cause you have some "Care" for it.
Find a Botting Program online?
Copy it and find a means to complain about it theirs stuff around this site's EULA and TOS that "could potentially be used to shut the site down" -but I cant say how as Im not entirely sure its like a Police/FEDs thing to do. (and all these programs have ways of Cancelling their effect in the game)
Found a Site for RMT?
report it to CCP perhaps they can find a list of players in-game related to the Site(webmasters)?
Im not sure My Idea's are getting thru here, but my Point is Help the situation Dont Burden it further.
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Xtreem
Gallente
Fire Mandrill
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Posted - 2011.05.10 12:54:00 -
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it would not be hard to flush out alot of bot users, 100's and very quickly, which would cause enough distrust between botters to stop or at least make it very hard to continue care free.
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Feky Deji
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Posted - 2011.05.10 19:39:00 -
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Edited by: Feky Deji on 10/05/2011 19:40:04
Time to make some White Noise about RMT:
http://soundcloud.com/miah-1-1/state-of-the-goonian-10-may
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Eolithic WithaTwist
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2011.05.10 20:52:00 -
[2457]
For the love of New Eden please stop feeding the trolls.
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Grath Telkin
Amarr
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.05.10 21:04:00 -
[2458]
Originally by: Feky Deji
Edited by: Feky Deji on 10/05/2011 19:40:04
Time to make some White Noise about RMT:
http://soundcloud.com/miah-1-1/state-of-the-goonian-10-may
With the rampant use of Innerspace by Goons there is no way anybody can take this seriously. They bot as much or more (they have detailed botting instructions available) than anybody else so they should probably sit back down.
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Heroltior Ghedonia
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Posted - 2011.05.12 07:43:00 -
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Edited by: Heroltior Ghedonia on 12/05/2011 07:46:08
But but but... Who else would the HAG gankers feed on then? I enjoy the many kills posted about Bots getting destroyed for the sake of explody and reward for such.
Seriously, if this is to be dealt with. Then it should be up to the REAL players of Eve to handle it... just as we do with other issues. More HAG tournaments with specific goals, restrictions to how and where bots are found/destroyed.
Eventually, the botters will get the message that we don't like their kind in our space and will be dealt with by our own flavor of justice.... ganking! 
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Captain Stroke
Slaganfall Flytt AB
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Posted - 2011.05.12 08:39:00 -
[2460]
Originally by: Feky Deji
Edited by: Feky Deji on 10/05/2011 19:40:04
Time to make some White Noise about RMT:
http://soundcloud.com/miah-1-1/state-of-the-goonian-10-may
White noise sat on massive amounts of tech moons in venal and mittens now claim that the isk came out of nowhere as they started buying supercaps?
I guess simple grunts are too dumb to understand what a massive income tech moons can be and how much you actually can buy with it if you don't RMT it all away.
White noise probably bot as much as everybody else but I would hardly call their super cap surge as evidence of massive botting or RMT'ing on their part, rather as something which underlines how much you can actually do off of moon mining if you actually use the income in-game.
It rather raises the suspicion of what the other alliances sitting on tech moons are doing with the income.
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