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TKL HUN
Jugis Modo Utopia pwn-O-graphy
27
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Posted - 2013.08.18 11:00:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Multiboxing drone assist ships. Mmm Calling the new CFC doctrine "Das ISBoot" Yeah. That's pretty good actually. Each person quadboxes either Dominixes or logistics. You assign your drones then if you are being shot you flip to that dominix and broadcast. Obviously logistics rep the broadcasts. Wonderful. You can even have your dominixes rep one another if you think about how it might be done with prelocking. We can turn a 1000-man fleet into 4000, a while 6VDT by ourselves if everyone had 4 accounts. And then steal Jita node, moving the people there to a lesser node where they will 30% TiDi all day. If the rental program is a success, we could upgrade everyone to carriers for 'Das ISuberboot'. Carriers for every bee!
Don't go offtopic here goonies plz. Thx |
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations Self Sabatoge
1199
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Posted - 2013.08.18 11:13:00 -
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Murk Paradox wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Murk Paradox wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:So you're telling me that the open thread in Assembly Hall is locked? Mallak Azaria wrote:Pubbies don't bother to check Each link I clicked were locked... are you trying to say that one link out of all of those you posted was unlocked? If so, why link the others? Just post the 1 unlocked link and call it a day. BTW, they are all locked still.(And yes, I checked them all again just now in case maybe I missed one). So I am telling you, your links are locked. Which is what I said earlier, and what I am still saying now. Check your own links please. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2775818#post2775818 is not locked. The point was, since you very clearly missed the very obvious point, is that threads about this topic already exist & that pubbies, much like yourself, never bother to check anything ever if threads on the topic already exist that you could contribute to further How cute, your use of the word "pubbie" (like it would mean anything to anyone else?Yes, I do not pay money to somethingawful.com so I am a "pubbie"[oh look, I CAN look up locked articles and find information!]) because you say I do not use the search to call you on your locked links? You are just overwhelming a reply with use of irrelevant links (they were locked!) to show why the OP could not be involved into a different discussion at the cost of his creating his own. Your grasp on 20/20 hindsight vision is astounding sir. tl;dr- your links were bad, you posted badly, deal with it.
Pubbie tears: noun, plural, see above post. Pubbie is actually quite a common term that is not unique to Goons one bit. But people take Eve so damn seriously and think the Mittani the devil himself, so they attribute all sorts of special attributes to Goons.
Anyway, I'd love to see a Burn Jita with Carriers. We should allow carriers in highsec for this annual tradition. Give Concord the week off, they work too hard.
I tried multiboxing with 20 accounts because some genius told me it was all about the ram. Well, I had ram to spare so I guess it was something else. But the op seems to think it's somehow cheating.
is Captain Kirk a cheater because he says fire phasers and someone else pushes the button for him? Is Captain Picard a cheater because he says engage and someone else controls the warp?
What about when some fleet commander calls a target and 4000 guys blast a TESTE? Is he cheating? Of course not.
See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4185
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Posted - 2013.08.18 17:40:00 -
[423] - Quote
Erotica 1 wrote:Murk Paradox wrote: How cute, your use of the word "pubbie" (like it would mean anything to anyone else?Yes, I do not pay money to somethingawful.com so I am a "pubbie"[oh look, I CAN look up locked articles and find information!]) because you say I do not use the search to call you on your locked links?
You are just overwhelming a reply with use of irrelevant links (they were locked!) to show why the OP could not be involved into a different discussion at the cost of his creating his own.
Your grasp on 20/20 hindsight vision is astounding sir.
tl;dr- your links were bad, you posted badly, deal with it.
Pubbie tears: noun, plural, see above post. Pubbie is actually quite a common term that is not unique to Goons one bit. But people take Eve so damn seriously and think the Mittani the devil himself, so they attribute all sorts of special attributes to Goons. Anyway, I'd love to see a Burn Jita with Carriers. We should allow carriers in highsec for this annual tradition. Give Concord the week off, they work too hard. I tried multiboxing with 20 accounts because some genius told me it was all about the ram. Well, I had ram to spare so I guess it was something else. But the op seems to think it's somehow cheating. is Captain Kirk a cheater because he says fire phasers and someone else pushes the button for him? Is Captain Picard a cheater because he says engage and someone else controls the warp? What about when some fleet commander calls a target and 4000 guys blast a TESTE? Is he cheating? Of course not. Drone assist is the best doctrine ever. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Jaangel
Cloak and Badgers
27
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Posted - 2013.08.18 18:03:00 -
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Learn to multibox like a real eve player or GTFO |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3449
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Posted - 2013.08.18 19:39:00 -
[425] - Quote
TKL HUN wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Multiboxing drone assist ships. Mmm Calling the new CFC doctrine "Das ISBoot" Yeah. That's pretty good actually. Each person quadboxes either Dominixes or logistics. You assign your drones then if you are being shot you flip to that dominix and broadcast. Obviously logistics rep the broadcasts. Wonderful. You can even have your dominixes rep one another if you think about how it might be done with prelocking. We can turn a 1000-man fleet into 4000, a while 6VDT by ourselves if everyone had 4 accounts. And then steal Jita node, moving the people there to a lesser node where they will 30% TiDi all day. If the rental program is a success, we could upgrade everyone to carriers for 'Das ISuberboot'. Carriers for every bee! Don't go offtopic here goonies plz. Thx
When did multiboxing stop being the topic of this thread?
The guy who was sitting next to me in the first nullsec round table who had obviously not had a shower since before boarding his flight to Iceland, you really stank. You know who you are. |
TKL HUN
Jugis Modo Utopia pwn-O-graphy
27
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Posted - 2013.08.18 20:40:00 -
[426] - Quote
It didn't, but the topic is about multiboxing softwares are ruining pvp, not about a goon dominix fleet.
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Klymer
Hedion University Amarr Empire
376
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Posted - 2013.08.19 00:37:00 -
[427] - Quote
If multiboxing softwares were such a game changing thing as you claim them to be, you wouldn't be able to go through a gate in low or null without running into dudes running their own fleets of instalocking alpha whatevers blasting everything that moved. I'm also pretty certain you would find them clogging up FW plexes as well if they were really that invincible.
Oh and I run 8 accounts myself, hope I have the chance to chase you and your sad little dualboxing setup out of a site some day.
....that will make up for the feeling of inadequacy I got from when I ran into the dude who had more accounts than me |
Murk Paradox
Red Tsunami The Cursed Few
450
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Posted - 2013.08.19 13:48:00 -
[428] - Quote
Erotica 1 wrote:
Pubbie tears: noun, plural, see above post. Pubbie is actually quite a common term that is not unique to Goons one bit. But people take Eve so damn seriously and think the Mittani the devil himself, so they attribute all sorts of special attributes to Goons.
Anyway, I'd love to see a Burn Jita with Carriers. We should allow carriers in highsec for this annual tradition. Give Concord the week off, they work too hard.
I tried multiboxing with 20 accounts because some genius told me it was all about the ram. Well, I had ram to spare so I guess it was something else. But the op seems to think it's somehow cheating.
is Captain Kirk a cheater because he says fire phasers and someone else pushes the button for him? Is Captain Picard a cheater because he says engage and someone else controls the warp?
What about when some fleet commander calls a target and 4000 guys blast a TESTE? Is he cheating? Of course not.
Well, I used the old archive system to look up "pubbie" and it's origin... and it was from Goons to signify a non SA.com forum poster.
Now it might not be unique to Goons "NOW", but heh, as it was me being called a "pubbie who doesn't use the search function" and the information found actually USING the search function.... I'm having trouble believing you.
As to Captain Kirk.. he IS a cheater, I do not know how you can even imagine he isn't. He is a Scoundrel (And rightly so god bless him!) and uses "cheats" to prove his point all the time. Hid reasons or "because" has nothing to do with it. You either are something or you aren't.
When a FC calls a target and a TESTE gets shot, that's not cheating, that's the inability to follow simple orders. They should be shooting the target, not their balls. "But my favourite visual experience in Eve was a pipebombing run on a digital projector. Sure, the aliasing can never match the perfection of a 2160p image - but you can't beat a five metre space volcano on your wall." - Lord Maldoror(RnK)
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Murk Paradox
Red Tsunami The Cursed Few
450
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Posted - 2013.08.19 13:55:00 -
[429] - Quote
Mallak Azaria wrote:
When did multiboxing stop being the topic of this thread?
When the Goonie went rental. "But my favourite visual experience in Eve was a pipebombing run on a digital projector. Sure, the aliasing can never match the perfection of a 2160p image - but you can't beat a five metre space volcano on your wall." - Lord Maldoror(RnK)
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TKL HUN
Jugis Modo Utopia pwn-O-graphy
27
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Posted - 2013.08.19 16:53:00 -
[430] - Quote
Klymer wrote:If multiboxing softwares were such a game changing thing as you claim them to be, you wouldn't be able to go through a gate in low or null without running into dudes running their own fleets of instalocking alpha whatevers blasting everything that moved. I'm also pretty certain you would find them clogging up FW plexes as well if they were really that invincible. Oh and I run 8 accounts myself, hope I have the chance to chase you and your sad little dualboxing setup out of a site some day. ....that will make up for the feeling of inadequacy I got from when I ran into the dude who had more accounts than me
We'll see. |
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StinkRay
The Dirty Rotten Scoundrels In Tea We Trust
356
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Posted - 2013.08.19 17:01:00 -
[431] - Quote
to op:
please bump https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=246157&find=unread
it might help you be less terrible at multi boxing EVE-O preview - multi-client preview / switcher |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4196
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Posted - 2013.08.19 23:43:00 -
[432] - Quote
Oh my, that looks nice and handy. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
787
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Posted - 2013.08.20 02:30:00 -
[433] - Quote
The term pubbie was out before the internet, we used it in HS and I'm 40.
Eve is Real |
Ioci
Bad Girl Posse Somethin Awfull Forums
453
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Posted - 2013.08.20 02:41:00 -
[434] - Quote
Cipher Jones wrote:The term pubbie was out before the internet, we used it in HS and I'm 40.
Different meaning here though. Back then it was an adolescent reference. Now it's an elitist reference by closed societies to anyone public. It's not really new though. Elitist societies have always found ways to segregate and it often leads to inbreeding or in the case of online variations, meta gaming. Nobody in the society sees how they rot from within and can't understand why others look at them in disgust or are unable to appreciate their glorious success.
The more things change, the more they stay the same. R.I.P. Vile Rat |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4199
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Posted - 2013.08.20 02:43:00 -
[435] - Quote
Ioci wrote:Cipher Jones wrote:The term pubbie was out before the internet, we used it in HS and I'm 40.
Different meaning here though. Back then it was an adolescent reference. Now it's an elitist reference by closed societies to anyone public. It's not really new though. Elitist societies have always found ways to segregate and it often leads to inbreeding or in the case of online variations, meta gaming. Nobody in the society sees how they rot from within and can't understand why others look at them in disgust or are unable to appreciate their glorious success. The more things change, the more they stay the same. So you think, but you can't see the terrible posting on our secret goon .-fleet-dot-com forums, we can. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Bait Pilot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.08.20 08:47:00 -
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Wow - If only MB software was as powerful as some seem to think - but then if it were, I'd vote against it. As it is now, it is simply a repeater passing on the command of a person who is selecting a correct or an incorrect choice.
The OP says his friends are great (I'm glad he covered his a@@ on that after saying how they behave in fleets or he will be forever locked into only being able to multi-box PVE in a 6/10 again as he will have no friends) but they make mistakes because they are human.
Having one of the MB packages does not transform the user from being human to being perfect. The programs only do what the human tells then to do and when they tell them to do it. The packages do not make the 19 other ships do what the single player WANTS them to do, but what the player TELLS them to do. So a 20 player fleet with 20 humans has a player who makes a mistake and one ship blaps off to somewhere else as that player is more interested in Blink or something. If the human with 20 ships awaiting his key/mouse selection gets distracted or perhaps overwhelmed by knowing that ANY mistake will likely become a catastrophe and does make a mistake, then that player has made 20 mistakes and the whole fleet does the wrong thing.
My main uses the software the OP advertised by name. Someone mentioned it was created by an Eve player and another said it was even allowed by Blizzard. Go to their forum and you will see that "Lax" the apparently only person there from that company or its parent company is a WOW player who developed the software to play on that platform, has a disdain for Eve players but puts up with them ($). It is a difficult program to wrangle with - guides written by coders for coders. I use it only to login in, to see 6 tiny screens and a big one simultaneously showing my 7 'toons on one 30 inch monitor at the same time and to move my little caravan from one place to another with some degree of safety as a lot of DPS is escorting a very small number of not so much DPS ships.
When I first got it and tried to go from point A to Point B - about ten jumps, My ship got there with a bunch of others, (I think I had 10 toons then) and a couple of ships were apparently a little slow in getting to a gate along the way. Because I did not take a headcount after waiting for the slightly slower ships to arrive at each gate and I selected the next gate from my overview. Those slower ships were in some other system, negotiated the gate I told them to and began or extended their own odyssey to as many jumps off the route as I had left to the final system. I didn't lose all of them. I thought like a lot of the uninformed posters here, that the software would make them all do what I WANTED them to do, not what I TOLD them to do. I learned a lot of limitations in a fast, quick, hurry. I took a couple of days to just move my little fleet to a hisec system (.8) to put the software and me through a few field training exercises with very weak adversaries and without the help of any casual roaming interlopers.
I don't do any mining anymore, but had the MB software when I did and gave up trying to save effort with it, because I don't have the desire to put anything else on my bucket list - I'm in my late 60s and I'm not going to learn a boatload of crap just to mine or to PVP. I'd never do PVP with it and my hat is off to those who do. I've done some level 5 missions with two ships using it in a fleet of my Corpies and without their understanding, I would have lost one of those two ships on several occasions. I have a great deal of respect for those who can tame any of the various packages, but my aspirations are not that high.
That is not to say I don't understand the capabilities of the software, I do understand the capabilities and the limitations. If I thought it was cheating, I would be on your side.
The term "3rd party software" is tossed around quite a bit, but try using Eve on a recently formatted HD with NO other software.
"Oh, MY! I have Windows ME, not Win8, only one video card, not two with on board ram, that HD and not a slick SSD, my MoBo is older than my own mother, this dialup is slow, my 15 inch B&W monitor is the pits, my keyboard is gummed up with nacho cheese and my mouse is pregnant, again and her mouse pad has turned into a Crack House!! it is clear anyone else with anything better is pay to win.
The phrase "not how it is supposed to be played" or words to that effect, countermand the doctrine of Eve from the beginning - That "the game will go where the players take it." That is how it is supposed to be and has been from the beginning.
Please do not take it personally when 10 ships beat your 10 ships (or 5 or 55 or any number you choose to undock in any fleet or multi-boxing arrangement you have admitted to use). The ships in your fleet have limitations and the ships in the MB package fleet have limitations. Your job is to, (may the US Marine Corps pardon me) Adapt and Overcome. If Eve was meant to be fair, we would all arrive from our trial periods with level 5 in everything, we would have unlimited ISK, Monocles to all, and we could not go into systems where we would encounter any players with total online game time more or less than fifteen days from our total online game time to keep us all on an even footing, experientially speaking.
OP, give it up. As sincere as you believe your cause to be, it has found support which only repeats your weak case. The reason for a paucity of support is your basic premise, not any of the many detractor's failure to understand. Nay, the opposite is the case.
I wish you luck. I think you will need it. |
Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
15449
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Posted - 2013.08.20 09:32:00 -
[437] - Quote
Missed out on this one, but can see it was handled quite nicely.
So to recap. Multiboxing is cheating, the OP does it and logic has no place in his argument.
OK, carry on.
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3474
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Posted - 2013.08.20 09:49:00 -
[438] - Quote
TKL HUN wrote:It didn't, but the topic is about multiboxing softwares are ruining pvp, not about a goon dominix fleet.
Goon Dominix fleets using multiboxing software has nothing to do with multiboxing software. You heard it from the OP.
The guy who was sitting next to me in the first nullsec round table who had obviously not had a shower since before boarding his flight to Iceland, you really stank. You know who you are. |
TKL HUN
Jugis Modo Utopia pwn-O-graphy
27
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Posted - 2013.08.22 09:33:00 -
[439] - Quote
Mag's wrote:Missed out on this one, but can see it was handled quite nicely. So to recap. Multiboxing is cheating, the OP does it and logic has no place in his argument. OK, carry on.
If you want to bark into a topic, read it trough, and don't post bull**it. |
culo duro
The Bootcamp EveryoneVersusEveryone.com.
224
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Posted - 2013.08.22 09:46:00 -
[440] - Quote
i still think OP should just get some friends. |
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TKL HUN
Jugis Modo Utopia pwn-O-graphy
27
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Posted - 2013.08.22 10:29:00 -
[441] - Quote
culo duro wrote:i still think OP should just get some friends.
This was already discussed too. |
culo duro
The Bootcamp EveryoneVersusEveryone.com.
227
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Posted - 2013.08.22 10:37:00 -
[442] - Quote
TKL HUN wrote:culo duro wrote:i still think OP should just get some friends. This was already discussed too.
hence the "still". |
Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
15463
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Posted - 2013.08.22 10:39:00 -
[443] - Quote
TKL HUN wrote:Mag's wrote:Missed out on this one, but can see it was handled quite nicely. So to recap. Multiboxing is cheating, the OP does it and logic has no place in his argument. OK, carry on. If you want to bark into a topic, read it trough, and don't post bull**it. I did thanks, hence my recap.
Maybe you could help this guy, tell him how he's ruining PvP.
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |
TKL HUN
Jugis Modo Utopia pwn-O-graphy
27
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Posted - 2013.08.22 10:44:00 -
[444] - Quote
Mag's wrote:TKL HUN wrote:Mag's wrote:Missed out on this one, but can see it was handled quite nicely. So to recap. Multiboxing is cheating, the OP does it and logic has no place in his argument. OK, carry on. If you want to bark into a topic, read it trough, and don't post bull**it. I did thanks, hence my recap. Maybe you could help this guy, tell him how he's ruining PvP.
Very funny. Netagive Ten? So u have your own 20 member smartbomb rokh fleet? That's why you are trolling? |
Krkan Krkasticni
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.08.22 11:00:00 -
[445] - Quote
You my good man need a wingman.
Thankfully I am running wingman / body guard program for those in need of an additional.
For a flat fee of 200 Mil ISK / week my main will provide you with our services.
After ISK is received I will join your corp and provide any and all support needed.
You can EVE mail me for any and all information needed for this service. |
TKL HUN
Jugis Modo Utopia pwn-O-graphy
27
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Posted - 2013.08.22 11:07:00 -
[446] - Quote
Krkan Krkasticni wrote:You my good man need a wingman.
Thankfully I am running wingman / body guard program for those in need of an additional.
For a flat fee of 200 Mil ISK / week my main will provide you with our services.
After ISK is received I will join your corp and provide any and all support needed.
You can EVE mail me for any and all information needed for this service.
LMFAO |
Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
15468
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Posted - 2013.08.22 21:29:00 -
[447] - Quote
TKL HUN wrote:Mag's wrote:I did thanks, hence my recap. Maybe you could help this guy, tell him how he's ruining PvP. Very funny. Netagive Ten? So u have your own 20 member smartbomb rokh fleet? That's why you are trolling? No, Negative Ten actually.
Nah no 20 man bombing fleet, 2 at most will catch all those noob ships and shuttles. I in fact multibox the whole corp with ISBoxer, that's why we suck so much.
Oh and I'm not trolling, simply laughing at you like everyone else.
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |
TKL HUN
Jugis Modo Utopia pwn-O-graphy
27
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Posted - 2013.08.22 21:50:00 -
[448] - Quote
Mag's wrote:TKL HUN wrote:Mag's wrote:I did thanks, hence my recap. Maybe you could help this guy, tell him how he's ruining PvP. Very funny. Netagive Ten? So u have your own 20 member smartbomb rokh fleet? That's why you are trolling? No, Negative Ten actually. Nah no 20 man bombing fleet, 2 at most will catch all those noob ships and shuttles. I in fact multibox the whole corp with ISBoxer, that's why we suck so much. Oh and I'm not trolling, simply laughing at you like everyone else.
Thanks god i don't care :) |
Vrenth
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
27
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Posted - 2013.08.22 22:52:00 -
[449] - Quote
One of our biggest adversaries multiboxes, and he can't catch a cruiser coming through a gate. I think what you mean is "Multiboxing is ruining MY pvp". Adapt. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4209
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Posted - 2013.08.22 23:29:00 -
[450] - Quote
Vrenth wrote:One of our biggest adversaries multiboxes, and he can't catch a cruiser coming through a gate. I think what you mean is "Multiboxing is ruining MY pvp". Adapt. What kind of cruiser, the T3-Covert-Ops-Cloak-Interdiction-Nullified type? There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
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