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Seth Ruin
Minmatar Ominous Corp Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2008.10.13 23:39:00 -
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Originally by: Avon Hey, your bug...
Skills continue training even if you are logged off or if your account is inactive
I found it in the player guide.
You guys better get in there and ninja-edit it.
You, sir, are a hero.
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Aganola
Amarr Hungarian Riflemen Regiment
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Posted - 2008.10.13 23:39:00 -
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Edited by: Aganola on 13/10/2008 23:40:28 you mean this one too?
edit: too late for ninja edit!
saved pasted printed and showed... hello law suite! XD ----------------------------------------------- "I do not belive in reicarnation... I didn't believed in it in my previous lives either..."
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Yakumo Smith
Gallente When Darkness Falls
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Posted - 2008.10.13 23:39:00 -
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Originally by: Lubomir Penev Funny how the balance argument disappeared, could you not be honest the first time around?
As for unsubscribed people loading your db, you know you have a pretty technical audience right?
Maybe we should stop posting here, they can realocate the storage space to the character database. Seems it needs shoring up with the "surge" in ghosts
I suppose this must be my sig. I'll do something cool with it eventually. |
Lubomir Penev
Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2008.10.13 23:39:00 -
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Originally by: Aganola
1: something that has been IN the game for more than 4 years is not a bug anymore it's a feature
Damn, no hope for a fixed overview then. -- I'm done whining about AFs, it looks like they are making them right \o/ |
Todoshi
Caldari Caldari Logistics and Supplies
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Posted - 2008.10.13 23:39:00 -
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so yes it was a **** you we want your money.
well in response FURB
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NeoShocker
Caldari Foundation Sons of Tangra
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Posted - 2008.10.13 23:39:00 -
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Edited by: NeoShocker on 13/10/2008 23:40:07 While I understand the situation, however, given the SHORT notice of the news, its just not right. Its been going on for years, and you just announce this? plus this dev blog is vague. I'm not satisfied of this blog at all.
This change will little or no effect me. Just need to use my cash more wisely now. I admit I have few times "ghost training." This is my ONLY character for Eve-Online. I love this game and will continue to play since this has no direct effect on the game (other than alts). But given the circumstances, you guys did it at the WRONG time and/or SHORT notice.
I would really like to recommend you CCP guys to delay it at least a month so people will take time to take notice of this change. -----------------------------------
Peace through power! |
LordSwift
INTERSTELLAR ENTERPRISE Final Retribution Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.13 23:40:00 -
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Originally by: Molten Steel I call BS & would also like to nominate this post/blog as worst damage control attempt ever...
You are a greedy money chewing monster - FACT.
But it's also a company. We make a product, sell it, get salaries and then continue maintaining the product and making it better.
You say it yourself - you are a company and your primary objective will always be to make money off our addiction to internet spaceships. Don't play this off as a balance issue or anything else. Have some bloody balls and just be frank about this. You'd still get smacked by most people but that's more because this is an absolutely ******ed change and whomever in your accountance-department came up with this idea should be fired, then rehired just so you can fire him again.
Again -1 account (someone should count this btw)
Nah your not worth it
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Seeker Ash
Minmatar Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2008.10.13 23:40:00 -
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Edited by: Seeker Ash on 13/10/2008 23:43:16 1. The "surge" in this behavior is pretty convenient given the economy of the times, isn't it?
2. You have actively supported ghost training in the past. Saying it's an unintended bug makes you liars.
3. Not that I want to tell you how to do your business, but you're doing the exact opposite of giving your customers a little extra to make them pay for your luxury product in this strained economy.
4. Until there's a revolutionary planetside expansion that makes the game explosively popular and cements its future existence, I'm not playing. I say when and not if, I still have faith that the game will survive, just not enough that I want to risk giving it any commitment.
5. So long. _________________ "Even space ships pilots get the blues." |
Laice
Caldari Judicial Blade Novus Aevum
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Posted - 2008.10.13 23:40:00 -
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Originally by: Suga H "maintaining a large number of customers that weren't paying us regular subscriptions."
Except that they had to pay if they wanted to use the character at any point in the future. Meaning people could take breaks and not be screwed out of time or money.
"There was a way to progress a character in EVE without an active subscription"
Ghosting Gal BS V didn't get me anything. I didn't advance any further in the game. Training the skill didn't buy me any capital ship skills. It didn't buy me a Kronos. It didn't earn me anything, it simply saved me time, and money, and allowed me to afford to be active on a second account. When I resubbed with the first account, I didn't log on with anything new, other than the ability to train another skill (however without the ability to afford it, having not been active on that account).
"Players now have to pay a subscription for characters to have them progress"
They had to anyway. Now they have to pay to allow time to pass.
this ^^
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Reihai
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Posted - 2008.10.13 23:40:00 -
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-1 account here.
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Proud American
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.10.13 23:40:00 -
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Because you are a producer I can see why you care more about money than your companies image or your customers. |
Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.10.13 23:41:00 -
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Edited by: Avon on 13/10/2008 23:42:32 Actually, let me change that post and just say again:
I am still all in favour of this change, I just think the PR sucks.
Eve-Online: The Text Adventure |
LordSwift
INTERSTELLAR ENTERPRISE Final Retribution Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.13 23:42:00 -
[103]
Originally by: Seth Ruin
Originally by: Avon Hey, your bug...
Skills continue training even if you are logged off or if your account is inactive
I found it in the player guide.
You guys better get in there and ninja-edit it.
You, sir, are a hero.
No he has no life. and has nothing better to do than search the small print somewhere stating old information. Damn give them a chance to update everything.
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Somealt Ofmine
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Posted - 2008.10.13 23:42:00 -
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So, how does this effect alt-farming for isk, meaning training up a character on an un-played account with the intention of selling it? I'm guessing that it just went from viable to not viable.
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Lethreas Lashnda
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Posted - 2008.10.13 23:42:00 -
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damn it. this is how to be started to go to the elevator to down this game .... give back 30 day gtc as that said also liar thing like this ghost thing.all about the money, big liar u did anything because of players. hahh, that sure u lost my alt money while eve is exist anymore.i am seriously wanna know how many people choose this way and how much u lost money from now because of this wrong decision (BUG) . this BUG was one of thing what like in eve to me , it was different from every mmo what came out to the world. really dont understand why have to kill this great game these things. delete 30 90d gtc, 33% more price for gtc and sure we have to pay much more money like usa peoples, because they live in usa. okay i understand it, we have to pay in euro but then i dont believe that cant do that not same price (u know 2 eur almost 3 usd. anyway its agreat game i hope it will be in next year to, and not will be finished because these (i guess) wrong decisions.....
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midge Mo'yb
Antares Shipyards Vanguard.
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Posted - 2008.10.13 23:42:00 -
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tbh, CCP are worse than SOE for mone grab lately... -----------------------------------------------
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Maconha
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Posted - 2008.10.13 23:42:00 -
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Edited by: Maconha on 13/10/2008 23:42:54
Originally by: Chaos Incarnate Also, for those of you who'd like the silver lining to this raging shitstorm, the prices of GTCs will probably go down from people not supporting a group of alt accounts via ghosting
CHAOS INCARNATE your face is great!!!! how do you made it???? i wonder if my grafic board is dying, and i canŠt see your face :D????? please reply
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wide
55378008
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Posted - 2008.10.13 23:43:00 -
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Edited by: wide on 13/10/2008 23:42:52 Morsus Mihi now know who to blame for the lag in M-O - those pesky Ghost Trainers! |
Mhaerdirne Solveig
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.10.13 23:43:00 -
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Edited by: Mhaerdirne Solveig on 13/10/2008 23:43:25 yeah I'm closing 2 accounts very soon as well
this won't be the end of my bad posting because I'll still have one...
if you want my bad posts to go away you should suggest more terrible changes Signature removed. Text is showing as "Signature no longer available" and filesize is well in excess of the allowed 400 x 120 pixels. Navigator |
Chestnut Stallion
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Posted - 2008.10.13 23:43:00 -
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-3 accounts
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Silvia t'Nias
Paramilitary Skanks
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Posted - 2008.10.13 23:43:00 -
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Originally by: Inanna Zuni It will be interesting in a few months to check the status of all the people who have gone "OHNOES!!!11!!!! I'M QUITTING" and see just how many are still in game.
This is a long overdue closing of a loophole that let people benefit unfairly and I for one am very happy with it.
IZ
Unfairly to whom?
To CCP? Keeping the training bit at "1" instead of "0" doesn't use any server time, and uses up precious little harddisc space. Ergo, it's not really costing CCP anything. After all, they're saving the character on their server even when it's not subscribed to. Having an unsubscribed character's wallet change (due to trade orders or donations or whatever) is a far more serious load on the server than having a static training flag in the "on" position.
Unfair to other players? This feature has been available to everybody.
You can check back on me 2 months from now, if you like. I won't have stopped playing, but of the 3 accounts that I _do_ have, 2 will be gone. I usually have 2 of them open, often all three, but not all of them all the time. And yes, sometimes, but rarely, I only have 1 of them open.
Now 2 of them will be closed off permanently. And you can take that to the bank. If there's any left.
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LordSwift
INTERSTELLAR ENTERPRISE Final Retribution Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.13 23:43:00 -
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Originally by: Reihai -1 account here.
+ Isk and stuff here ---->
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jitasucks
The Peoples Republic of Uganda
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Posted - 2008.10.13 23:43:00 -
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Edited by: jitasucks on 13/10/2008 23:44:11 Its ok guys we can shit all over our paying subscribers cos they're all addicted so they'll never quit blah blah blah *drops another deuce*
And yeah CAN I PLEASE GET AN ANSWER ON GTC SALES FOR ISK, IT'S JUST AS BIG OF AN UNFAIR ISSUE AS THIS SUPPOSED GHOST TRAINING AND YET BECAUSE ITS ALL MONEY IN CCP'S POCKET I MEAN REALLY, WHO GIVES A SHIT?
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Di Ferguson
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Posted - 2008.10.13 23:43:00 -
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Classic, cant explain it? blaim it on the lag
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Phil Anthropist
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Posted - 2008.10.13 23:43:00 -
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"Skills continue training even if you are logged off or if your account is inactive (in the second scenario you can't change skill training, though)."
Bugs what. |
AdmiralSexyPants
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.10.13 23:43:00 -
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Originally by: Avon Hey, your bug...
Skills continue training even if you are logged off or if your account is inactive
I found it in the player guide.
You guys better get in there and ninja-edit it.
Originally by: midge Mo'yb
Speaking from personal experience, I've used the time off to train long skills, try new things that I wouldn't previously, walk away from needing to change skills, needing to set my alarm clock to make sure I change that skill the second it finished, etc.
I like Eve. Hell, the unsubbed training thing is one of the *PRIMARY* reasons I am still playing Eve. If this FEATURE and SELLING POINT gets removed, my several hundred dollar a year addiction just got reduced to an on rare occasion thing.
(Maybe I should thank CCP for helping me kick the habit) I have no honor :( |
Chaos Incarnate
Faceless Logistics
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Posted - 2008.10.13 23:44:00 -
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Originally by: Maconha Edited by: Maconha on 13/10/2008 23:42:54
Originally by: Chaos Incarnate Also, for those of you who'd like the silver lining to this raging shitstorm, the prices of GTCs will probably go down from people not supporting a group of alt accounts via ghosting
CHAOS INCARNATE your face is great!!!! how do you made it???? i wonder if my grafic board is dying, and i canŠt see your face :D????? please reply
I'm a Jovian, secretly __________
Cannot read from face Abort, Retry, Fail? |
Dungar Loghoth
Caldari The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.10.13 23:44:00 -
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We game the system. ---
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Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.10.13 23:44:00 -
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Originally by: LordSwift
No he has no life. and has nothing better to do than search the small print somewhere stating old information. Damn give them a chance to update everything.
It didn't take a great deal of effort to type "skill training inactive" in teh search box on the top right of the forums tbh.
Eve-Online: The Text Adventure |
LordSwift
INTERSTELLAR ENTERPRISE Final Retribution Alliance
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Posted - 2008.10.13 23:44:00 -
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Originally by: Chestnut Stallion -3 accounts
bye, all your stuff via contract to me. Thanks
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