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Kahega Amielden Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2009.02.16 22:14:00 - [31] Quote: What's a Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I? sentry drone? But really, I missed that. Either way, even with a web, that ship wont hit ****. Hell, even a non-ABing AF could probably speed tank that.
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.02.16 22:21:00 - [32] Edited by: Zeba on 16/02/2009 22:23:02 Here you go misterbubbles. 40dps less and 100mn mwd moar. Remember folks these are just basic cookie cutter fits. No reason not to go all dual heavy pulse on the geddon and drop a cpu mod or any other number of tweaks to suit your individual needs or taste. [Typhoon, misterbubbles mkII] Gyrostabilizer II Co-Processor II Co-Processor II 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Damage Control II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Warp Scrambler II Stasis Webifier II Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution 100MN MicroWarpdrive II 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP L Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo Scan Probe Launcher I, Snoop Scanner Probe I Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I Ogre II x5 Warrior II x5 Warrior TP-300 x5 edit. Wtf is with all the af? Who in thier right mind would gank one in a bs or for that matter who in thier right mind would fly one even with the recent buffs? Yay! Got meh sig back! ♥ Weatherman
MisterBubbles	Posted - 2009.02.16 22:42:00 - [33] Originally by: Zeba Originally by: MisterBubbles [Phoon fit] Again no prop. Leave range. Warp off. yawn How? No mwd and base speed of target is now 60% less. Even if you are webbed back that few kilometers might as well be the other side of the grid. Also these are not nessesarily solo fits though they moast certainly can be used as one. Not much can live for long under a sustained 1000dps. Also love the use of yawn as it can work wonders on those with thin skins. I have utilized it to great effect myself on occasion. Seen some people get banned over the replys they make to it if properly inserted in a reply. Wow so it works in your perfect world of both you and your oponent having no prop and you landing within scram range. plonk
Deva Blackfire D00M.	Posted - 2009.02.16 23:17:00 - [34] Originally by: Zeba Edited by: Zeba on 16/02/2009 21:06:46 edit: Refined the fit a bit as I simply abhor having to use named mods to fit. Weighs in at 30dps less. whoo. [Armageddon, WTF!?! How!?] Co-Processor II Co-Processor II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Damage Control II Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Warp Scrambler II Stasis Webifier II Mega Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Mega Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Mega Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Mega Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Dual Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Scan Probe Launcher I, Snoop Scanner Probe I Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I Ogre II x5 please, never again touch geddons. Or just contract them to me - at least i wont kill them before undocking.
Graalum Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2009.02.16 23:48:00 - [35] what the hell is this thread?
Karrade Krise Galatic P0RN Starz	Posted - 2009.02.16 23:55:00 - [36] Originally by: Graalum what the hell is this thread? This is a webpage, an html document used by CCP I made it smaller for you Navigater...My name is in it. That's the minimum required for a sig if I remember correctly
Isanda ANZAC ALLIANCE Southern Cross Alliance	Posted - 2009.02.17 00:13:00 - [37] Core Probe Launcher: 15CPU, 1PG Might want to actually look at the changes before declaring a fotm
techzer0 IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2009.02.17 00:33:00 - [38] Originally by: Zeba edit. Wtf is with all the af? Who in thier right mind would gank one in a bs or for that matter who in thier right mind would fly one even with the recent buffs? My corp/Alliance would... But I totally see where you're going and I like the Idea... My gank sleipnir hasn't solo'd a raven in a few weeks ------------ Originally by: Nexus Kinnon I could outgay you even without my pink tutu. >.>
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.02.17 06:06:00 - [39] Originally by: Isanda Core Probe Launcher: 15CPU, 1PG Might want to actually look at the changes before declaring a fotm Might want to actually log onto sisi before declaring the 15cpu launcher works with combat probes. Also techzer0 is on the right track if not already at the correct answer. Why are the pirates always the smart ones? Yay! Got meh sig back! ♥ Weatherman
Joss Sparq Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2009.02.17 06:39:00 - [40] The latest FOTM will be ... me I encourage you all to use a lot of tongue

Nexus Kinnon Genos Occidere	Posted - 2009.02.17 08:01:00 - [41] Hurf you're all wrong It's to close wormholes with.
Nexus Kinnon Genos Occidere	Posted - 2009.02.17 08:03:00 - [42] Some ganking of ratters may be involved too
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.02.17 08:05:00 - [43] Originally by: Deva Blackfire please, never again touch geddons. Or just contract them to me - at least i wont kill them before undocking. Translation: "Wait what? That doesn't look like the fit my fc tells me to put on my geddon therefore it must be /fail and will auto-self destruct upon undocking or will instapop as soon as a noob ship shoots it." This is what I was using to test out the new probe mechanics and the only things to get away were a falcon who simply jammed me and warped away in hull and a couple of aligned and up to speed snipers. Everyone else was like: pop And for the ones who will inevitably go 'no prop yawn' you can fit one if you wish as there is enough grid and cpu. Its almoast like ccp designed the Domi to do everything. [Dominix, Suprise!] Damage Control II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Stasis Webifier II Warp Scrambler II Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron Ion Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Ion Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Ion Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Ion Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Ion Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Scan Probe Launcher I, Snoop Scanner Probe I Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I Ogre II x5 Lots of other drones xyz Yay! Got meh sig back! ♥ Weatherman
Katarlia Simov Minmatar Cowboys From Hell	Posted - 2009.02.17 10:52:00 - [44] Why are you all basically taking pvp ships, shoe horning a probe launcher on it and calling it something to look through wormholes with ? Sure its a competitive pvp oriented environment out there, but since the only thing that seems to be certain about wormhole space is that the NPCs are LOADS of pwn. You ever tried to pve in a buffer fitted ship ? It doesn't end well. Especially if you're thinking of going there solo. Dumb idea.
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.02.17 10:59:00 - [45] Originally by: Katarlia Simov Why are you all basically taking pvp ships, shoe horning a probe launcher on it and calling it something to look through wormholes with ? Sure its a competitive pvp oriented environment out there, but since the only thing that seems to be certain about wormhole space is that the NPCs are LOADS of pwn. You ever tried to pve in a buffer fitted ship ? It doesn't end well. Especially if you're thinking of going there solo. Dumb idea. This is not about w-space. Though tbh there would be nothing stopping someone from using it in w-space. The same trick will work there as well as in k-space. Yay! Got meh sig back! ♥ Weatherman
Egenli	Posted - 2009.02.17 12:02:00 - [46] Originally by: Katarlia Simov Why are you all basically taking pvp ships, shoe horning a probe launcher on it and calling it something to look through wormholes with ? Gee, why would a probe launcher be useful in pvp?
Raimo Gallente Wrath of Fenris	Posted - 2009.02.17 12:44:00 - [47] Edited by: Raimo on 17/02/2009 12:51:23 Originally by: Zeba This is not about w-space. Though tbh there would be nothing stopping someone from using it in w-space. The same trick will work there as well as in k-space. Ok, I'll bite. I haven't tried probing on SISI and I know fukk all about probing on TQ but are you implying that with the new mechanics you can get a super fast warp in to a hostile that is on grid with you but 150+ away? Would be WTFBBQ cool and would instafix falcons at the same time IMO. I hope it's "intended" tho or they'll fix it as soon as this is seen by the devs. (If I'm right, what would be the effect on 0.0- style warpingsniping fleet warfare?) Hmm. What are the relevant skills to SISI probing? Oh, OT-ish: IMO named webs and scrams are much better than T2, better fitting and they can be heated for longer. ---
Furb Killer Gallente	Posted - 2009.02.17 12:54:00 - [48] You can use a named web, named scram is not an option (check the range of the different scrams). --------------------------------------------- Originally by: Neth'Rae Military experts are calling this a troll.
Raimo Gallente Wrath of Fenris	Posted - 2009.02.17 13:27:00 - [49] Originally by: Furb Killer You can use a named web and a named scram, named disruptor is not an option (check the range of the different scrams and disruptors). Fixed that for you. (God, am I becoming an EVE-O Hoe? ) So Zeba, did I win? ---
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.02.17 13:32:00 - [50] The Dawn of a New Age of Grid Warfare is upon us. Repent now your Blobby Ways or pay the Ultimate Price. Yay! Got meh sig back! ♥ Weatherman

Raimo Gallente Wrath of Fenris	Posted - 2009.02.17 13:57:00 - [51] LOL, FW is for nubs ---
Raimo Gallente Wrath of Fenris	Posted - 2009.02.17 13:59:00 - [52] Oh, gotta start working on my probing skills and Deimos fit... ---
Nomad Storm The Wandering Path	Posted - 2009.02.17 16:14:00 - [53] Just because the probe time is lower doesnt mean that probing is easier all the sudden. You need hits on four probes and they cannot be next to one another. If anything this will probably take as long as a current probe launcher fit to one of the battleships anyway.
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.02.17 19:45:00 - [54] Originally by: Nomad Storm Just because the probe time is lower doesnt mean that probing is easier all the sudden. You need hits on four probes and they cannot be next to one another. If anything this will probably take as long as a current probe launcher fit to one of the battleships anyway. Probing with max skills using the new mechanics will be so easy its nearly laughable. The only downside to the changes is that you will no longer be able to drop a probe as soon as you jump in and maybe possibly (but 99 times out of 100 its too late regardless of how quick you are) get to that ratting raven who logged as soon as you showed up on local. For every other use and it seems quite a few others that are currently not possible it will be a godsend to probing. Yay! Got meh sig back! ♥ Weatherman
Deva Blackfire D00M.	Posted - 2009.02.17 19:54:00 - [55] Edited by: Deva Blackfire on 17/02/2009 19:56:48 Originally by: Zeba Originally by: Deva Blackfire please, never again touch geddons. Or just contract them to me - at least i wont kill them before undocking. Translation: "Wait what? That doesn't look like the fit my fc tells me to put on my geddon therefore it must be /fail and will auto-self destruct upon undocking or will instapop as soon as a noob ship shoots it." Translation: you are stupid and your setups surely "must be /fail and will auto-self destruct upon undocking or will instapop as soon as a noob ship shoots it." If it would work, people would use em nowadays. its not hard to drop out of grid probe and scan (takes 60 seconds anyways). But on TQ most people will warp away before you even lock em. But yeh you were on sisi. Sisi warriors, assemble! I wont even start about what is wrong with this setup. Even someone with basic fitting clue will know. And you got some comments from other people anyways. Quote: Probing with max skills using the new mechanics will be so easy its nearly laughable. The only downside to the changes is that you will no longer be able to drop a probe as soon as you jump in and maybe possibly (but 99 times out of 100 its too late regardless of how quick you are) get to that ratting raven who logged as soon as you showed up on local. For every other use and it seems quite a few others that are currently not possible it will be a godsend to probing. Yeh because noone pays attention to: - scanner - probes appearing on scan - enemy ship incoming on close range scanner - enemy ship landing on grid If guy doesnt spot any of those i can assure you, he would have died under old (or even the oldest) scan system anyways.
Furb Killer Gallente	Posted - 2009.02.17 20:01:00 - [56] Originally by: Raimo Edited by: Raimo on 17/02/2009 14:00:21 Originally by: Furb Killer You can use a named web, but you need a t2 scram is not an option (check the range of the different scrams and disruptors). Fixed that for you. (God, am I becoming an EVE-O Hoe? ) So Zeba, did I win? Fixed that for you. These setups have no mwd, and the entire goal is to drop right on top of them. Not only is disruptor then not needed, because you should be close enough for scram, if you cant scram them they will just mwd away from you, your web isn't going to change anything about that. With t2 scram you just increase the area at which you can be effective. --------------------------------------------- Originally by: Neth'Rae Military experts are calling this a troll.
Monikerina	Posted - 2009.02.17 20:08:00 - [57] Originally by: Zeba Originally by: Nomad Storm Just because the probe time is lower doesnt mean that probing is easier all the sudden. You need hits on four probes and they cannot be next to one another. If anything this will probably take as long as a current probe launcher fit to one of the battleships anyway. Probing with max skills using the new mechanics will be so easy its nearly laughable. The only downside to the changes is that you will no longer be able to drop a probe as soon as you jump in and maybe possibly (but 99 times out of 100 its too late regardless of how quick you are) get to that ratting raven who logged as soon as you showed up on local. For every other use and it seems quite a few others that are currently not possible it will be a godsend to probing. The dev in charge of scanning disagrees with you. His stated goal is to make scanning more interesting but take longer. He wants people to use safes again rather than docking or cloaking It's in the big thread in the sisi forumn.
Deva Blackfire D00M.	Posted - 2009.02.17 20:10:00 - [58] Thing is new scanning system IS faster IF you pre-set around gate. If you know that engagement will take place near gate XYZ or pos XYZ then put 4 probes at shortest range near it - and suddenly you get "warp in" points every 5-10 seconds (cant remember scan timer now). When it comes to scanning safespots its useless. People will just cycle them till their aggro goes off and then log (or just cloak). Cycling safes (and creating new ones) for 15 minutes isnt that hard.
Raimo Gallente Wrath of Fenris	Posted - 2009.02.17 20:44:00 - [59] Edited by: Raimo on 17/02/2009 20:46:36 Originally by: Furb Killer Originally by: Raimo Edited by: Raimo on 17/02/2009 14:00:21 Originally by: Furb Killer You can use a named web, but you need a t2 scram is not an option (check the range of the different scrams and disruptors). Fixed that for you. (God, am I becoming an EVE-O Hoe? ) So Zeba, did I win? Fixed that for you. These setups have no mwd, and the entire goal is to drop right on top of them. Not only is disruptor then not needed, because you should be close enough for scram, if you cant scram them they will just mwd away from you, your web isn't going to change anything about that. With t2 scram you just increase the area at which you can be effective. Dude, are we playing the same game? Best named scrambler and T2 have the same range(9km). It's different with the disruptor (20km for best named and 24km for T2) Do you live in 0.0 by any chance? Yeah, I know a scram used to be short for either pointing devices but IMO after QR there has to be a distinction. When I mentioned the disruptor separately I think I made it apparent what I meant by scram. So the point stands, best named SCRAMBLER is superior to T2, it needs less CPU and overheats longer. K? ---
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.02.17 20:48:00 - [60] Lmao where to start. Nah, I'll just leave them to stew over things they obviously have no clue about and let experience teach them after its all implimented. Yay! Got meh sig back! ♥ Weatherman



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