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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.02.16 19:43:00 -
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[Armageddon, WTF!?! How!? ] Co-Processor II Co-Processor II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Internal Force Field Array I
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I F-90 Positional Sensor Subroutines, Scan Resolution
Mega Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Mega Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Mega Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Mega Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Mega Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Mega Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Mega Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L Scan Probe Launcher I, Snoop Scanner Probe I
Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I
Ogre II x5
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MisterBubbles
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Posted - 2009.02.16 19:51:00 -
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Edited by: MisterBubbles on 16/02/2009 19:52:36 No prop module. Fly out of range. Warp away. *yawn*
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Kahega Amielden
Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2009.02.16 19:51:00 -
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Due to mass restrictions, small ships are going to be very common in W-space. Due to a total lack of small/medium drones and no web, an assault frigate could take down that geddon.
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MisterBubbles
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Posted - 2009.02.16 19:54:00 -
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Originally by: Kahega Amielden Due to mass restrictions, small ships are going to be very common in W-space. Due to a total lack of small/medium drones and no web, an assault frigate could take down that geddon.
What's a Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I?
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Benedikt Miloslav
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Posted - 2009.02.16 19:54:00 -
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Edited by: Benedikt Miloslav on 16/02/2009 19:54:39
Originally by: Kahega Amielden Due to mass restrictions, small ships are going to be very common in W-space. Due to a total lack of small/medium drones and no web, an assault frigate could take down that geddon.
Originally by: Zeba Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
??
Not that I don't agree with you.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.02.16 19:59:00 -
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Heheheh. So the masses ain't figured it out yet. 
[Megathron, Dude! No way!!] Magnetic Field Stabilizer II 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Damage Control II Co-Processor II Co-Processor II
Warp Scrambler II Stasis Webifier II Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Scan Probe Launcher I, Snoop Scanner Probe I
Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I
Ogre II x5
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General Coochie
The Bastards
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Posted - 2009.02.16 20:09:00 -
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Originally by: MisterBubbles
Originally by: Kahega Amielden Due to mass restrictions, small ships are going to be very common in W-space. Due to a total lack of small/medium drones and no web, an assault frigate could take down that geddon.
What's a Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I?
Not that a web helps vs an ABin AF Vigil and Caracal, Duo PvP
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MisterBubbles
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Posted - 2009.02.16 20:13:00 -
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Originally by: General Coochie
Originally by: MisterBubbles
Originally by: Kahega Amielden Due to mass restrictions, small ships are going to be very common in W-space. Due to a total lack of small/medium drones and no web, an assault frigate could take down that geddon.
What's a Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I?
Not that a web helps vs an ABin AF
Where did I say it would?
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Sidus Isaacs
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.02.16 20:15:00 -
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Best named webbifier is better then the T2, is use sless CPU and less cap, and is jsut aseffective in ragards to range and web strength.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.02.16 20:23:00 -
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These fits have zero to do with w-space. Moar like grid space. 
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Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I Trimark Armor Pump I
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Cedric Diggory
Perfunctory Oleaginous Laocoon Mugwumps
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Posted - 2009.02.16 20:28:00 -
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What, that you'll be able to fit a probe launcher in your last high slot? ---
Originally by: 7shining7one7 no.. you're f'ing insane.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.02.16 20:32:00 -
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Ahh, your getting close to the mark. Literally. However I'm not going to say anymoar though. It will all become apparent after m10 as I'm sure the inevitable whine threads will attest..
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Max Hardcase
Art of War Cult of War
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Posted - 2009.02.16 20:33:00 -
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referring to the new scan times ?
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Cedric Diggory
Perfunctory Oleaginous Laocoon Mugwumps
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Posted - 2009.02.16 20:43:00 -
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Improved scan probe accuracy on unbonused ships? ---
Originally by: 7shining7one7 no.. you're f'ing insane.
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Karrade Krise
Galatic P0RN Starz
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Posted - 2009.02.16 20:44:00 -
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Safespot breaking HEAVY tackler. :P
I made it smaller for you Navigater...My name is in it. That's the minimum required for a sig if I remember correctly |

Major Deviant
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Posted - 2009.02.16 20:45:00 -
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The hint here is that you will need points to rat as the sleepers will warp away when heavily damaged.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.02.16 20:51:00 -
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Originally by: Major Deviant The hint here is that you will need points to rat as the sleepers will warp away when heavily damaged.
Wrong on both counts. 
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Karrade Krise
Galatic P0RN Starz
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Posted - 2009.02.16 20:53:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Major Deviant The hint here is that you will need points to rat as the sleepers will warp away when heavily damaged.
Wrong on both counts. 
well you ignored me so I'm assuming I'm on the right track... 
I made it smaller for you Navigater...My name is in it. That's the minimum required for a sig if I remember correctly |

Captator
Empire Assault Corp
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Posted - 2009.02.16 20:59:00 -
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Probes now cycle in 10 seconds, the time consuming part is the player control; in order to find a target you need to trilaterate with 4 or more probes, this means that it is in theory just as fast to find a target using a probe launcher on a BS as on a covops.
Covops will be being changed to have strength bonuses we think (i.e: can either find harder sites and/or get hits more reliably), or perhaps probe movement speed bonuses (you can manoeuvre them through the solar system map in order to trilaterate).
Also vaguely relevant, the probe launcher to find wormholes costs 15cpu on SiSi atm 
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Major Deviant
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Posted - 2009.02.16 21:04:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Major Deviant The hint here is that you will need points to rat as the sleepers will warp away when heavily damaged.
Wrong on both counts. 
I guess I am regarding where you are getting at, but you do know that Sleepers WILL warp away if victory is unlikely. It is mentioned the new NPC AI huge thread.
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.02.16 21:05:00 -
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Edited by: Furb Killer on 16/02/2009 21:05:34 Maybe you can explain us what the goal of these setups is?
Finding safespots: Everyone is whining it will take too much time with changes, i dont see why your bs would do better when people think cov ops doesn't do.
Not to mention your target is long gone before you got a lock on anything.
So i guess the goal dropping out of warp right on top of them? You are kinda gimping your setup just to get a bit closer, fitting a mwd to do the same would be far easier.
If you really want to do this, get a rokh, then you can fit your probe launcher without ruining your entire setup. ---------------------------------------------
Originally by: Neth'Rae Military experts are calling this a troll.
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loldongs III
loldongs industries
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Posted - 2009.02.16 21:07:00 -
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ITT: People that don't realize unwebbed ab af's get absolutely crushed by ogre 2s and webbed mwd af's have an even worse time against ogre 2's. Your sig can be as low as you want it to be but you travel at about the same speed as ogres and zero transversal is bad.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.02.16 21:13:00 -
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Originally by: Major Deviant
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Major Deviant The hint here is that you will need points to rat as the sleepers will warp away when heavily damaged.
Wrong on both counts. 
I guess I am regarding where you are getting at, but you do know that Sleepers WILL warp away if victory is unlikely. It is mentioned the new NPC AI huge thread.
No the devs have said the sleepers will stand and heroically fight to the death like all normal npc. Its in that one really long series of dev reply posts. The challenge however will be in living longer than they do. 
@Furb. My testing on sisi is not in line with your suppositions. 
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.02.16 21:21:00 -
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[Rokh, Scanner] Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Damage Control II Gravimetric Backup Array II
Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Sensor Booster II Warp Scrambler II Stasis Webifier II
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge L Scan Probe Launcher I, Snoop Scanner Probe I
Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I
Hammerhead II x5
I still have my doubts, and that sensor booster does hurt the tank alot. But this setup at least doesn't need best named DCs and coprocs. Fits easily, you can even fit a plate in a low slot. ---------------------------------------------
Originally by: Neth'Rae Military experts are calling this a troll.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.02.16 21:27:00 -
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Well crap that was going to be my next fit after a reply. But to answer your question not everyone has the skills to fly a T2 fit blaster Rohk. I'm telling you its an evil thing that can be done now and your target will not get away unless they are aligned at speed with thier mouse hovering over the warp button and an eagle eye on local. Alas the players who that paranoid will always get away no matter how sneaky you are. But for the other 95% of eve pilots? Oh dear. 
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Zhang Ramses
Chaos From Order
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Posted - 2009.02.16 21:28:00 -
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So you think scan time will truly be reduced to 4-10 seconds? Or do you think, maybe, it's just that low on the test server to accommodate the...well...testing of the new scan system?
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.02.16 21:31:00 -
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Originally by: Zhang Ramses
So you think scan time will truly be reduced to 4-10 seconds? Or do you think, maybe, it's just that low on the test server to accommodate the...well...testing of the new scan system?
No the 10 second base is the new time as the devs wanted to take the waiting out of the process and replace it with player skill but the fast time is only part of but not nessesary to working the new majiks.
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MisterBubbles
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Posted - 2009.02.16 21:50:00 -
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[Phoon fit]
Again no prop. Leave range. Warp off. *yawn*
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.02.16 21:59:00 -
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Originally by: MisterBubbles [Phoon fit]
Again no prop. Leave range. Warp off. *yawn*
How? No mwd and base speed of target is now 60% less. Even if you are webbed back that few kilometers might as well be the other side of the grid. Also these are not nessesarily solo fits though they moast certainly can be used as one. Not much can live for long under a sustained 1000dps.
Also love the use of *yawn* as it can work wonders on those with thin skins. I have utilized it to great effect myself on occasion. Seen some people get banned over the replys they make to it if properly inserted in a reply. 
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Coronae Borealis
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Posted - 2009.02.16 22:07:00 -
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Originally by: Kahega Amielden Due to mass restrictions, small ships are going to be very common in W-space. Due to a total lack of small/medium drones and no web, an assault frigate could take down that geddon.
Due Sleepers killer damage, small ships are found dead in w-space alot.
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