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Verton	Posted - 2009.02.17 18:54:00 - [1] I'm looking for a good fit for an Ishtar. It will be used for 0.0 PvP. I have searched the forums, but most of the old fits are nano-based and will not work well any more I see that the Ishtar is a very versatile ship, but I am not sure how to properly fit it. I have looked on our corp kill boards, but everything I have seen so far is fail material, i.e. beam weapons, shields, etc. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. /Verton/
Caldari Citizen4714	Posted - 2009.02.17 19:16:00 - [2] The ishtar is a more expensive, more agile version of a dominix with a ****ty tank with a hull that costs 2x as much. Oh, and it can't fit heavy neuts, so it's interceptor food.
Verton	Posted - 2009.02.17 19:26:00 - [3] I understand that the Dominix is a better ship, but I am still looking for an acceptable Ishtar fitting. /Verton/
Ignatious Mei	Posted - 2009.02.17 19:29:00 - [4] How are you going to fly it? Solo? Small gang? Fleet?
Verton	Posted - 2009.02.17 19:34:00 - [5] It will be used for small gangs. I was not planning on putting web or tackle on it. I'll let a tackler handle that part of the fun. With so many low slots the things that this ship can do are amazing. The high slots have me waning to fit rails and drone link augmenters. /Verton/
UMEE	Posted - 2009.02.17 19:41:00 - [6] Originally by: Caldari Citizen4714 The ishtar is a more expensive, more agile version of a dominix with a ****ty tank with a hull that costs 2x as much. Oh, and it can't fit heavy neuts, so it's interceptor food. none of what you say is relevant to his original post. that being said, most people already know that the ishtar is a more expensive version of the domi, but unlike the domi, it's useful in roaming gangs due to its mobility. anyway, highs dont matter much. i recommend fitting some neuts and small turrets. for small gangs, go for a dual repper setup: MARII MARII EANMII armor explosive hardener II DCUII 10mn micro LSEII med cap booster webbie disruptor for larger engagements, or for situations in which u might get focus fired go for a buffer setup: 1600mm rolled tung DCUII EANMII EANMII armor explosive hardener II 10mn micro LSEII webbie warp disruptor tracking disruptor
Verton	Posted - 2009.02.17 19:58:00 - [7] Originally by: UMEE anyway, highs dont matter much. i recommend fitting some neuts and small turrets. for small gangs, go for a dual repper setup: MARII MARII EANMII armor explosive hardener II DCUII Your lows match my EFT fit exactly. Originally by: UMEE 10mn micro LSEII med cap booster webbie disruptor For the mids, I was thinking about: MWD II Sensor booster II Med Cap booster ECCM (no clue?) I'm guessing you are use the LSE II to add to your buffer tank? I had avoided the LSE due to the signature radius increase of 25m. Originally by: UMEE for larger engagements, or for situations in which u might get focus fired go for a buffer setup: 1600mm rolled tung DCUII EANMII EANMII armor explosive hardener II 10mn micro LSEII webbie warp disruptor tracking disruptor Agreed, that 1600mm plate will definitely keep you alive a few seconds more. /Verton/
Ignatious Mei	Posted - 2009.02.17 20:00:00 - [8] Here is my small gang Ishtar fit. Use the speed to get to range and let range be your tank. This is my favorite ship in my hangar. [Ishtar, Sentry] Overdrive Injector System II Overdrive Injector System II Local Power Plant Manager: Capacity Power Relay I Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range Omnidirectional Tracking Link I Omnidirectional Tracking Link I Large Shield Extender II 125mm Railgun II, Spike S 125mm Railgun II, Spike S 125mm Railgun II, Spike S Drone Link Augmentor I Drone Link Augmentor I Sentry Damage Augmentor I Sentry Damage Augmentor I Bouncer II x5 Warrior II x5 Whatever other drones you want
Verton	Posted - 2009.02.17 20:35:00 - [9] Originally by: Ignatious Mei Here is my small gang Ishtar fit. Use the speed to get to range and let range be your tank. This is my favorite ship in my hangar. Ignatious Mei: Definitely a nano fit. I see you use small rails, but you also use a drone link augmentor. The 125mm rails are sort range, and the drone link augmentor gives you longer range on the drones. Is that to give you the flexibility of dumping your sentries way out and then you melee at close range? /Verton/
UMEE	Posted - 2009.02.17 20:40:00 - [10] the only thing about quasi nano setups is that...theyre not nano setups. nowadays, anything can shut you down, and without a tank you'll melt in a matter of seconds. your best bet is to tank the ishtar, travel in a gang and hope for the best.
Ignatious Mei	Posted - 2009.02.17 20:44:00 - [11] Originally by: Verton Originally by: Ignatious Mei Here is my small gang Ishtar fit. Use the speed to get to range and let range be your tank. This is my favorite ship in my hangar. Ignatious Mei: Definitely a nano fit. I see you use small rails, but you also use a drone link augmentor. The 125mm rails are sort range, and the drone link augmentor gives you longer range on the drones. Is that to give you the flexibility of dumping your sentries way out and then you melee at close range? /Verton/ The rails are simply there to deal with enemy drones. You should be fighting at 70k - 100k range. The reason it's not a nano fit in the old school use of the term is that the speed isn't used to tank. It's used to get to range and then use range as the "tank". Most small gang's arent hitting at 100k and even if you encounter something that can you just scoop your drones and get out of dodge. You have enough of a buffer to take some hits while you scoop and run.
Verton	Posted - 2009.02.17 20:50:00 - [12] Originally by: UMEE ... and without a tank you'll melt in a matter of seconds. your best bet is to tank the ishtar, travel in a gang and hope for the best. Valid point about the tank. Most of the cruiser and BS (Gallente and Amarr) fits I have seen lately have a 1600mm plate or two. /Verton/
Verton	Posted - 2009.02.18 01:17:00 - [13] PvP 0.0 Tanked fit [Ishtar, PvP-Tank] Damage Control I Armor Explosive Hardener II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 25 Sensor Booster II ECCM - Magnetometric II Remote Sensor Dampener II 125mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge S 125mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge S 125mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge S [empty high slot] [empty high slot] /Verton/
Verton	Posted - 2009.02.18 01:23:00 - [14] PvP 0.0 with Armor rep and a little Drone Ju-Ju. [Ishtar, PvP-With-Rep] Medium Armor Repairer II Medium Armor Repairer II Armor Explosive Hardener II Damage Control I Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 25 Sensor Booster II Omnidirectional Tracking Link I Remote Sensor Dampener II 125mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge S 125mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge S 125mm Railgun II, Antimatter Charge S [empty high slot] [empty high slot] /Verton/
Eternum Praetorian Tupperware Party	Posted - 2009.02.18 03:46:00 - [15] Edited by: Eternum Praetorian on 18/02/2009 03:49:31 Far as I can tell a Vexor can do more DPS, an Ishtar only has higher resists (and I think less buffer tank last I checked) Have you considered a Navy Vexor instead?
Wideen Warped Mining Strip Mining Club	Posted - 2009.02.18 04:22:00 - [16] Originally by: Verton Your lows match my EFT fit exactly. Originally by: UMEE 10mn micro LSEII med cap booster webbie disruptor For the mids, I was thinking about: MWD II Sensor booster II Med Cap booster ECCM (tracking disruptor II) drop the LSE, you're armor tanking that's enough. use something more useful like EW --------------------------------- "I robbed a goon and I liked it" - Suas
Verton	Posted - 2009.02.18 05:01:00 - [17] Originally by: Wideen drop the LSE, you're armor tanking that's enough. use something more useful like EW I was thinking the same thing, but I know very little about this ship. I used one of my setups tonight in 0.0 against some Drone Controllers. Wow... I felt like a complete noob. I have EW V and all the other EW skills (How very Caldari of me!). I need to experiment a little. /Verton/
Ogron Oberon Incorporated Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2009.02.18 06:02:00 - [18] [Ishtar, pvp] Medium Armor Repairer II Medium Armor Repairer II Adaptive Nano Plating II Armor Explosive Hardener II Damage Control II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Faint Warp Disruptor I Warp Scrambler II Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I Small Diminishing Power System Drain I Light Neutron Blaster II, Dread Guristas Antimatter Charge S Light Neutron Blaster II, Dread Guristas Antimatter Charge S Light Neutron Blaster II, Dread Guristas Antimatter Charge S Auxiliary Nano Pump I Auxiliary Nano Pump I Ogre II x5 --- Who is dis moses meehee they talking about ?
UMEE	Posted - 2009.02.18 06:05:00 - [19] Originally by: Eternum Praetorian Edited by: Eternum Praetorian on 18/02/2009 03:49:31 Far as I can tell a Vexor can do more DPS, an Ishtar only has higher resists (and I think less buffer tank last I checked) Have you considered a Navy Vexor instead? just to inform you, Ishtar does dominix-like damage, because it can field 5 heavy drones; check your bandwidth requirements. a vexor with 2 heavies 2 mediums and 1 light does good dps but it's still quite a bit less than the Ishtar.
Zantei	Posted - 2009.02.18 14:00:00 - [20] Originally by: Caldari Citizen4714 The ishtar is a more expensive, more agile version of a dominix with a ****ty tank with a hull that costs 2x as much. Oh, and it can't fit heavy neuts, so it's interceptor food. If a vexor can fend off any inty in the game you can be sure as hell the ishtar will do it better. Did you just say the Ishtar had a bad tanking capability?
TimMc Gallente Extradition	Posted - 2009.02.18 14:48:00 - [21] Originally by: Zantei If a vexor can fend off any inty in the game you can be sure as hell the ishtar will do it better. Did you just say the Ishtar had a bad tanking capability? Most people seem to have never flown or fought an ishtar.
demonfurbie Minmatar Covert-Nexus	Posted - 2009.02.18 15:07:00 - [22] ... i still nano mine but i put 3 tracking dist in the mids and go after gun ships
Ezekiel Sulastin Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2009.02.18 15:29:00 - [23] Originally by: Eternum Praetorian Edited by: Eternum Praetorian on 18/02/2009 03:49:31 Far as I can tell a Vexor can do more DPS, an Ishtar only has higher resists (and I think less buffer tank last I checked) Have you considered a Navy Vexor instead? A Navy Vexor is in fact the highest DPS cruiser-sized ship in the game (outganking even the mighty Deimos if you're dedicated) but it's hard to fit, has limited midslots, and has little tank. With an Ishtar, I'd personally lean heavily to using t2 sentries - take advantage of the mobility and range bonus and snipe away :) ----
Varshyll	Posted - 2009.02.18 15:50:00 - [24] Edited by: Varshyll on 18/02/2009 15:51:11 Edited by: Varshyll on 18/02/2009 15:50:54 Shield tank Ishtar : Low : SPR 2 Co proc 2 PDS 2 * 2 Dmg control 2 Med : LSE 2 * 2 Invul 2 Warp disruptor 2 Mwd 2 High : Dual 150 mm * 3 Rigs : Core field extender Anti EM Screen Almost 50 K effective HP, 160 shield regen, 544 DPS with Iron ammo and Ogre 2.
UMEE	Posted - 2009.02.18 17:17:00 - [25] Edited by: UMEE on 18/02/2009 17:20:10 another way, if ure going 2xLSEII, is to go full gank and do 700dps Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Damage Control II Co-Processor II RCUII 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Faint Warp Disruptor I X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Small Energy Neutralizer II Small Energy Neutralizer II
StuckNJita	Posted - 2009.02.18 17:48:00 - [26] Originally by: Ezekiel Sulastin A Navy Vexor is in fact the highest DPS cruiser-sized ship in the game (outganking even the mighty Deimos if you're dedicated) but it's hard to fit, has limited midslots, and has little tank. Ehh.. not if you include heat ;) ------------------ Yes, the early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese..
Zaerlorth Maelkor The Maverick Navy Southern Cross Alliance	Posted - 2009.02.19 02:54:00 - [27] Word on the street is that fitting it with autocannons with barrage ammo outperforms light hybrids by alot! ================================================== I should really get a sig.
Guriko Spartan Industrial Manufacturing Systematic-Chaos	Posted - 2009.02.19 05:40:00 - [28] Originally by: Verton I'm looking for a good fit for an Ishtar. It will be used for 0.0 PvP. I have searched the forums, but most of the old fits are nano-based and will not work well any more I see that the Ishtar is a very versatile ship, but I am not sure how to properly fit it. I have looked on our corp kill boards, but everything I have seen so far is fail material, i.e. beam weapons, shields, etc. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. /Verton/ i dont care what anyone says about nano, but nano ishtar is still the way to go. stick drone link augmenters, and small drones with a passive shield tank. and use sentry drones. you will be hard to hit with your 2kms speed, and you will have 10k shield witht he right fitting and skills. i believe you are able to snipe out at 90km with one. and of course fit small drones and small ecm drones just incase you get the lovely ocaisional ******* in a ceptor on you.
Guriko Spartan Industrial Manufacturing Systematic-Chaos	Posted - 2009.02.19 05:41:00 - [29] Originally by: UMEE Originally by: Caldari Citizen4714 The ishtar is a more expensive, more agile version of a dominix with a **ty tank with a hull that costs 2x as much. Oh, and it can't fit heavy neuts, so it's interceptor food. none of what you say is relevant to his original post. that being said, most people already know that the ishtar is a more expensive version of the domi, but unlike the domi, it's useful in roaming gangs due to its mobility. anyway, highs dont matter much. i recommend fitting some neuts and small turrets. for small gangs, go for a dual repper setup: MARII MARII EANMII armor explosive hardener II DCUII 10mn micro LSEII med cap booster webbie disruptor for larger engagements, or for situations in which u might get focus fired go for a buffer setup: 1600mm rolled tung DCUII EANMII EANMII armor explosive hardener II 10mn micro LSEII webbie warp disruptor tracking disruptor AND UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE DO NOT ARMOR TANK YOUR ISHTAR. YOU MORRONS THROWING ARMOR MODS ON ISHTARS SHOULD BE DRUG OUT AND **ING SHOT. YOUR ALL MORONS.
UMEE	Posted - 2009.02.19 06:59:00 - [30] Edited by: UMEE on 19/02/2009 07:00:27 Originally by: Guriko Originally by: Verton I'm looking for a good fit for an Ishtar. It will be used for 0.0 PvP. I have searched the forums, but most of the old fits are nano-based and will not work well any more I see that the Ishtar is a very versatile ship, but I am not sure how to properly fit it. I have looked on our corp kill boards, but everything I have seen so far is fail material, i.e. beam weapons, shields, etc. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. /Verton/ i dont care what anyone says about nano, but nano ishtar is still the way to go. stick drone link augmenters, and small drones with a passive shield tank. and use sentry drones. you will be hard to hit with your 2kms speed, and you will have 10k shield witht he right fitting and skills. i believe you are able to snipe out at 90km with one. and of course fit small drones and small ecm drones just incase you get the lovely ocaisional ******* in a ceptor on you. there is no nano. stop confusing the guy. pseudo nano ishtars are only good at getting melted by everything out there. it's not the way it used to be.

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