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ISD BH Sabaoth
Amarr ISD BH
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Posted - 2009.02.18 19:02:00 -
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Who are the Bug Hunters (BH) and what is Equipment Certification and Anomaly Investigations Division (ECAID)?
ECAID is the fictional name for the volunteer Bug Hunter team which aids CCP's Quality Assurance (QA) team in regression tests and new builds for the EVE test server. Our primary role is to verify and filter the bug reports submitted by players. Once verified a report is assigned to a defect and picked up by QA who carry out further testing if necessary and assign the defect to the appropriate development team.
I want to help, how can I do this?
You can help in two ways, one you can submit logical bug reports. For information on submitting a good report please go to our public website http://www.eve-bh.net/howtobr.php
Two, you can become a Bug Hunter by applying to ISD: http://myeve.eve-online.com/isd.asp
You will be given training however we only accept experienced players who are very knowledgeable about the game mechanics and features. If you have been playing for some time, have a strong technical background and like to hang out on the test server then we are most likely interested in you.
We are also looking for people who are able to do translation work in Russian as a primarily role and bug hunt as a secondary position, if you fit this role please apply to the Translation Team (TT) using the above ISD link.
-------------- Sabaoth Bug Hunter Vice Admiral The ECAID Project
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Elegbara
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Posted - 2009.02.18 20:37:00 -
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I can't see Translation Team in the ISD page. Open your eyes. And Awaken. |
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ISD BH Sabaoth
Amarr ISD BH
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Posted - 2009.02.18 20:52:00 -
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Its an option when you go to the application page which can be found here: http://myeve.eve-online.com/isd_2.asp
-------------- Sabaoth Bug Hunter Vice Admiral The ECAID Project
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tachet
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Posted - 2009.02.18 22:03:00 -
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Hmmm BH Tachet....
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Countessa D'Marko
Sanguinity Enclave
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Posted - 2009.02.18 23:28:00 -
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Do I get bonus points for noticing the "Starship Troopers" reference in the thread title - or is it something that I would know about if I spent more time in GD ?
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Matt G
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2009.02.18 23:56:00 -
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Would there maybe be a small award if there's excellent bughunting done, such as game time? ----- Nuff said. Troubleshoot my mind if I sound stupid.
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ISD BH Sabaoth
Amarr ISD BH
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Posted - 2009.02.19 00:13:00 -
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Originally by: Countessa D'Marko Do I get bonus points for noticing the "Starship Troopers" reference in the thread title - or is it something that I would know about if I spent more time in GD ?
The only good bug, is a dead bug.
As for rewards for good bug reporting, the fact that you are helping improve EVE should be reward enough. It is also excellent experience for those who are considering a job in the games industry. One thing I should also note is that if you apply and get accepted into the Bug Hunter team you are not allowed to tell anyone else that you are apart of the team. You will sign Non-Disclosure Agreements (NDA's) which are legally binding contracts, we are very selective so if you get accepted you should be proud. Out of 500 applicants we would generally only find 30-40 worthy to join.
-------------- Sabaoth Bug Hunter Vice Admiral The ECAID Project
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tachet
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Posted - 2009.02.19 01:26:00 -
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Im sure you need to be 18 to sign up, i couldnt see it in your post though.
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ISD BH Virrago
ISD BH
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Posted - 2009.02.19 01:56:00 -
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Yes, you have to be 18 in order to apply
[Bug Report Here] - [How to write a good bugreport] - [Contact Us]
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2009.02.19 03:46:00 -
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Edited by: MotherMoon on 19/02/2009 03:47:29 It's a good day to die!
applied.
edit: oh hah, I see the starship troopers reference now :P That's a lot more subtle than the Nintendo one.
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Matt G
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2009.02.19 08:30:00 -
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Edited by: Matt G on 19/02/2009 08:29:56
Originally by: ISD BH Sabaoth It is also excellent experience for those who are considering a job in the games industry. One thing I should also note is that if you apply and get accepted into the Bug Hunter team you are not allowed to tell anyone else that you are apart of the team. You will sign Non-Disclosure Agreements (NDA's) which are legally binding contracts, we are very selective so if you get accepted you should be proud. Out of 500 applicants we would generally only find 30-40 worthy to join.
But if I were to be accepted, it's not something I could add to my resume, is it?
----- Nuff said. Troubleshoot my mind if I sound stupid.
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Georn
VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2009.02.19 09:35:00 -
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Edited by: Georn on 19/02/2009 09:36:02
Originally by: Matt G Edited by: Matt G on 19/02/2009 08:29:56
Originally by: ISD BH Sabaoth You will sign Non-Disclosure Agreements (NDA's) which are legally binding contracts, we are very selective so if you get accepted you should be proud.
But if I were to be accepted, it's not something I could add to my resume, is it?
The first rule of Bug Hunter Club is - you do not talk about Bug Hunter Club. The second rule of Bug Hunter Club is - you DO NOT talk about Bug Hunter Club.
But I'd guess it would be OK in a resume, once you're out. :) ____________ even Carebears have teeth |
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CCP Lemur
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Posted - 2009.02.19 10:34:00 -
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I approve of this message and/or service! Seriously, the BH are a very nice bunch of guys and gals and a lot of CCP employees started out in ISD There is plenty of fun to have and even early looks at features
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tachet
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Posted - 2009.02.19 13:56:00 -
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we want aratoxi! we want aratoxi! hes the best!
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Kumi Unn
Amarr Team Nugget
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Posted - 2009.02.19 15:07:00 -
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Edited by: Kumi Unn on 19/02/2009 15:07:38 Why would my age be an issue? I am only 16, but I do not see how my age would effect me being a part of the ISD BH team.
I've been playing this game for 2 years, and I have some experience with bug hunting/technical stuff, and I think it would be an even greater asset to someone like me who is coming very close to the end of my HS life, and being part of the CCP BH team would be a juicy on a resume.
If it is maturity you want, maturity I have plenty of.
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Xelios
Minmatar Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2009.02.19 15:12:00 -
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Originally by: Kumi Unn Edited by: Kumi Unn on 19/02/2009 15:07:38 Why would my age be an issue? I am only 16, but I do not see how my age would effect me being a part of the ISD BH team.
You have to be 18 to sign the NDA as it's a legally binding document. Legal thing
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ISD BH Sabaoth
Amarr ISD BH
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Posted - 2009.02.19 15:25:00 -
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The position is one that you could apply to your resume, you must be 18 for a number of reasons but the prime one is to sign the NDA/TOS agreements.
-------------- Sabaoth Bug Hunter Vice Admiral The ECAID Project
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Kumi Unn
Amarr Team Nugget
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Posted - 2009.02.19 20:22:00 -
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Bah!
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2009.02.19 21:51:00 -
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Originally by: ISD BH Sabaoth The position is one that you could apply to your resume, you must be 18 for a number of reasons but the prime one is to sign the NDA/TOS agreements.
should we e-mail a real resume to you as well as the application?
I for instance have a descent resume in product testing and good references. It's just everyone and his mother is getting liad off resently so I am currently industy-wise jobless. and I don't like my resume standing still.
I need to build it up even if I'm not getting paid.
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Chruker
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Posted - 2009.02.19 22:54:00 -
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Have tried applying 2 times in past, so I doubt you want me now :-( ----- http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online ----- Top wishes: - No daily downtime - Faster training on sisi - Speedup IGB table rendering |
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Dal Deinvisu
Ora Nova
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Posted - 2009.02.20 08:18:00 -
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Is this new initiative to recruit going to expedite pending responses?
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ISD BH Sabaoth
Amarr ISD BH
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Posted - 2009.02.20 19:20:00 -
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Resumes are not required and please note that this is a volunteer position so it not paid. The current recruitment drive will not hold up recruitment fur the current applicants although please note that we may be a tiny bit slower in replying due to the sheer volume of applicants.
-------------- Sabaoth Bug Hunter Vice Admiral The ECAID Project
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PeHD0M
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Posted - 2009.02.21 11:42:00 -
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People, you are being used. Bug hunting is not a game it is work. Don't work for free. Your time should cost money.
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Rei Sara
Solis Singularis
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Posted - 2009.02.21 18:01:00 -
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Originally by: PeHD0M People, you are being used. Bug hunting is not a game it is work. Don't work for free. Your time should cost money.
I know this sounds sappy and I don't want to start a flame war or anything, but some of us love (or are addicted to) EVE enough that getting to play with new mechanics and help get them working smoothly is fun.
Lots of people do things that take their time and effort and don't necessarily give them anything tangible in return, and they do still enjoy it. I think they usually call that a hobby .
- - - - Rei Sara's suggestion perfectly strikes the Features And Ideas Discussion thread, wrecking all arguments and killing the idea completely... Even though it was her own. |
lpha centurion
Confrerie des ombres
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Posted - 2009.02.21 20:44:00 -
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Edited by: lpha centurion on 21/02/2009 20:45:40 Money, money... Everything is not money guys you know.
Working as a bughunter is probably one of the greatest privilege you can have if you love the game you are playing. I think it's a new way of discovering the game and contribute to the development of such a MMORPG can be really exciting.
Obviously it's not paid and what? It is still an experience and should be seen as such: teamwork, helping other players, reporting bugs and so on.
Those who are working for them are really lucky. -------------------------- Oneiromancer > What sound does the test server do in your language? Phthonos > *crash*
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ISD BH Sabaoth
Amarr ISD BH
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Posted - 2009.02.21 21:01:00 -
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Originally by: PeHD0M People, you are being used. Bug hunting is not a game it is work. Don't work for free. Your time should cost money.
I am sorry you feel that way PeHD0M but I respectively disagree with you, myself and the rest of the Bug Hunter team LOVE what we do and the comradeship and experiences that we have are well with any time that we volunteer to our tasks!
-------------- Sabaoth Bug Hunter Vice Admiral The ECAID Project
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David Kaos
Gallente KAOS CORP RELLIK ALUCARD
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Posted - 2009.02.22 03:05:00 -
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I have played eve for nearly 2yrs applied twice both times was told not enough exp. Yet i have talked to a few BH people they have played eve less and know less then i do on thing. Like if a ship has rigs fitted on it a BH said to fly that ship you must have the skills not only for that ship but the rigs fitted to it. That is wrong. Yet people like this are allowed to be BH and ones like me and i'm sure many others are told sorry. You don't have enough exp to do this and don't know enough about the game to do this job. just because i have no one to list that i have done this before doesn't mean i don't have the know how to do it. I have found more then a few bugs but since i have been told twice i don't know what i'm doing i wont report them. After all why should i take the time to report something i have been told i'm not good enough to do? Let the Ones that think they know how some things are to work find these bugs i have found. Just because u have had a job bug hunting for someone else doesn't mean u know what your doing and just because u don't have someone to list doesn't mean u don't know what your doing. Also if no one will give u a chance to get the exp how are u to get the exp u need to do this? Now i realy dont think a ccp worker will reply to this but if he/she does i would to a point be shocked.
Have a nice safe flight David Kaos |
Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2009.02.22 10:12:00 -
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Before I even consider this I need a lot more information:
1. Training is done where, for how long, how? 2. The job is performed how, where? 3. Do I get to choose which character to use if I have multiple accounts. 3a.Does CCP provide us with a character for BH use. 4. Anything else you might tell me, sell me on the idea!
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lpha centurion
Confrerie des ombres
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Posted - 2009.02.22 11:25:00 -
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Originally by: David Kaos Like if a ship has rigs fitted on it a BH said to fly that ship you must have the skills not only for that ship but the rigs fitted to it. That is wrong. Yet people like this are allowed to be BH and ones like me and i'm sure many others are told sorry.
And you want to work within a team in that way? BH members are, as this announcement remember us, simply players like you and me and it's pretty obvious that we can't know everything in details because our character will be more a miner than a fighter etc. Saying that you should be a BH because you have more knowledge than another BH is another element which may prove that you are not apt to join that team, they are looking for teamwork and fun, not competition.
Ok you were refused because they considered that you are too young to join them, try to prove them that you have the skills to do the work, explaining the things you have ever done: mining/mission running/trading/pvp'ing etc... Telling that you have helped other players is another good point: you may be CEO/trainer of a corporation and you had the task to train new members -------------------------- Oneiromancer > What sound does the test server do in your language? Phthonos > *crash*
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Roemy Schneider
BINFORD
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Posted - 2009.02.22 17:39:00 -
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returning the most obvious bugs as "irreproducable" all day? heck, sign me up - putting the gist back into logistics |
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