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CombatWombat Jr
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Posted - 2009.03.18 20:24:00 -
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Originally by: Haradgrim Edited by: Haradgrim on 18/03/2009 20:00:31
Originally by: CombatWombat Jr 2 x invuln field is passive?
Active = Armor Rep or Shield booster Buffer = Large Amount of HP/Resists, regen is not a factor Passive = Shield regeneration rate > than expected damage from opponents
It's passive because I am relying on my shield's PASSIVE regeneration rate to tank the damage I am taking....
i bet its not as good as the armor tanked and light missle wielding drake we ran into yesterday!
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Chssmius
Capital Support House of Mercury
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Posted - 2009.03.18 21:29:00 -
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Originally by: CombatWombat Jr
i bet its not as good as the armor tanked and light missle wielding drake we ran into yesterday!
Obvious troll is obvious.
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Yes, technically, his setup wasn't "passive" because of the active resists or for that matter the DC2. However, you can't have a fully "passive" ship if you fit any module that uses Cap. It is virtually passive, though. So please cut it out.
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Jody Davis
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Posted - 2009.03.18 21:48:00 -
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Originally by: Chssmius
Originally by: CombatWombat Jr
i bet its not as good as the armor tanked and light missle wielding drake we ran into yesterday!
Obvious troll is obvious.
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Yes, technically, his setup wasn't "passive" because of the active resists or for that matter the DC2. However, you can't have a fully "passive" ship if you fit any module that uses Cap. It is virtually passive, though. So please cut it out.
there appears to be a dildo lodged in your rear. please remove and come back, thanks!
the OP and commenter seemed to be bantering back and forth without malice just fine. until you brought it down a notch.
have a coke and a smile.
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Chssmius
Capital Support House of Mercury
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Posted - 2009.03.19 00:05:00 -
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I prefer pepsi....[checks rear-end]
I see so many snide and deliberately misleading remarks they all blend together after a while. The fit the OP posted seemed reasonable and the Wombat's response was snippy and sarcastic. I am sorry if "took it too far," his arguing over semantics of a minor point just set me off.
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Jody Davis
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Posted - 2009.03.19 00:47:00 -
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Originally by: Chssmius I prefer pepsi....[checks rear-end]
I see so many snide and deliberately misleading remarks they all blend together after a while. The fit the OP posted seemed reasonable and the Wombat's response was snippy and sarcastic. I am sorry if "took it too far," his arguing over semantics of a minor point just set me off.
no worries. :) let us all remember that internet spaceships is serious business!
ive seen quite a few good drake fits in this thread so i find it highly constructive.
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Haradgrim
Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION
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Posted - 2009.03.19 17:15:00 -
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Originally by: Chssmius
Originally by: CombatWombat Jr
i bet its not as good as the armor tanked and light missle wielding drake we ran into yesterday!
Obvious troll is obvious.
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Yes, technically, his setup wasn't "passive" because of the active resists or for that matter the DC2. However, you can't have a fully "passive" ship if you fit any module that uses Cap. It is virtually passive, though. So please cut it out.
In 99.999999% of PVP situations, it makes more sense to use invuln fields than passive hardeners. Besides, there is almost no disadvantage to them, the only time cap becomes an issue is when you are scrammed by 1 or more BS at close range, if you can't use your light ECMs to break lock before he drains you dry....chances are you weren't making it out of the fight alive regardless fo what hardeners your using..... not to mention the cycle time on heavy neuts is long enough usually for the cap to recharge and a cycle to start on your hardeners....
As for the DCU II.... it uses what? 5 energy units for a 30 second cycle or something?
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Originally by: CCP Oveur Just donęt forget the reach-around.
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Terianna Eri
Amarr Scrutari
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Posted - 2009.03.20 07:36:00 -
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Originally by: Haradgrim As for the DCU II.... it uses what? 5 energy units for a 30 second cycle or something?
Even less, 1 cap for the entire 30 second cycle...
On a related note, turns out I haven't posted my drake to this thread yet. Gogogogogo...
Quote: [Drake, Buffer HAM!] Damage Control II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II
Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Faint Warp Disruptor I Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile Salvager I /OFFLINE
Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I Core Defence Field Extender I
Warrior II x5
Tight fit is tight __________________________________
Originally by: CCP Whisper Boo hoo. Cry some more.
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Dracoknight
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Posted - 2009.03.20 08:20:00 -
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Originally by: Jody Davis
there appears to be a dildo lodged in your rear. please remove and come back, thanks!
the OP and commenter seemed to be bantering back and forth without malice just fine. until you brought it down a notch.
have a coke and a smile.
Errr, Excuse me, i am the OP... I havent been active in my own thread even... :P Rawr! |
Pearre Dash
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Posted - 2009.03.20 09:03:00 -
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Goddamnit Teri don't teach them how to do it
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Terianna Eri
Amarr Scrutari
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Posted - 2009.03.20 10:03:00 -
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Originally by: Pearre Dash Goddamnit Teri don't teach them how to do it
>_>
I mean, uh, that's the drake I killed in my stabber yesterday. Terrible fit really
(I'm actually not a fan of the drake but it works well enough) __________________________________
Originally by: CCP Whisper Boo hoo. Cry some more.
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yani dumyat
Minmatar purple pot hogs Doctrine.
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Posted - 2009.03.20 12:36:00 -
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I'm intrigued to know more about peoples target selection when flying solo in a drake. I've been using cruisers for solo work but am looking for a slightly meatier ship that can take on a small 2 or 3 man T2 frig / cruiser gang.
'Cookie Cutter HAM'
HIGH 7x HAM II (situation dependent ammo) small neut
MID mwd scram web 2x invul large extender
LOW 3x BCU power diagnostic
RIG 3x field extender
DRONES 5x hornet ec300 (or warrior II)
Most forum setups listed seem to be variations on the above theme and very few seem to have a sensor booster so i am assuming that people must be baiting smaller ships into attacking them or picking out solo BC/BS?
My experience is that people tend to solo in smaller ships so T1 cruisers are a useful magnet for overconfident frigs, especially AFs but what kind of ship / gang tends to pick on a solo drake?
Assuming you're flying a cookie cutter HAM setup what size of cruiser / frig gang could you take on?
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yani dumyat
Minmatar purple pot hogs Doctrine.
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Posted - 2009.03.20 13:12:00 -
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On the assumption of hunting down HAC's what do people make of this setup?
HIGH 7x HAM II Named Medium Neut
MID 10mn MWD I Scram II Disruptor II Named Web Named Sensor Booster (scan res script) LSE II
LOW 3x PDU BCU
RIG 3x Field Extender
DRONES 5x Hornet EC-300
IMPLANTS 3% PG (plus assorted 3% tank and missile implants)
The EFT numbers aren't great but you can perma run the medium neut with enough cap left over to pulse the MWD. Sensor booster gives you a good chance of catching a cruiser.
The tactic would be to use the neut / drones / scram to disable a hac while the disruptor and missiles drive off any support.
Not done much solo in a drake but have just bought 2 of them so gonna find out if the ship's worth the hype this weekend
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Rexthor Hammerfists
Rage of Inferno Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2009.03.20 14:30:00 -
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Edited by: Rexthor Hammerfists on 20/03/2009 14:29:46 Its funny and sad how many ppl underestimate the drake. There are so many drakes being used with heavy missiles and a huge tank - which indeed arent very useful for pvp. But no one can deny a proper setup ham drake in the hands of a proper pilot is a deadly ship, the amount of ppl expecting it to be a harmless ratting ship makes it only better.
My best kills i got with this ship when i baited ppl into thinking im going back to the gate so they come into web range to bump me off, 550 dps teaches them not to come in too close again usually :) -
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Eardianm
Stimulus Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2009.03.24 04:28:00 -
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Originally by: yani dumyat I'm intrigued to know more about peoples target selection when flying solo in a drake.
Everything. Often to my demise
Thing I hate the most are Hyps, bastards can rep all day long and has never turned out well. In general I'll engage about anything subcapital though, cause who cares, it's a t1 hull and doesn't cost much (I use em and therm rigs for cost savings) to fit. And can come away from many fights in one piece to boot. You have a good 25km potential sphere with Jav fit, so try to slide into their weakest range and go from there. --------------
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