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Ellie McAmber Dandelion Wine Refineries Inc. 0	Posted - 2012.04.24 15:52:00 - [1] - Quote As everyone might have noticed, CCP killed the contract-trading mini-profession with the latest patch. Most officer, faction and deadspace loot is now available on the market, with predictable consequences (0.01 ISK games and babysitting). In before: "can I have your stuff", "HTFU", "adapt" and "good change lol". I have other plans for my stuff, as contract trading is not the only thing I do. "Adapt" in my case means I am quitting trade (and doing it in much disgust). I flat out refuse to deal with the horribly broken 0.01-ISKing mechanics, station owner standings and other wonderful Market innovations. I did not play that game since 2005 (when I just started EVE), and I will not start playing it now. The point I am trying to make is that CCP removed a feature that I (and many others) enjoyed, and now EVE is much more boring. Relatively few people did contract trading, and there is little-to-no outrage over this change, except of a short-ish discussion thread over in MD. However, there is definitely a slippery slope here. The contract traders got it now. Your chosen mini-profession could be next. Sad day.
scooter Kondur Pyramid Celestial 102	Posted - 2012.04.24 15:55:00 - [2] - Quote Ellie McAmber wrote: As everyone might have noticed, CCP killed the contract-trading mini-profession with the latest patch. Most officer, faction and deadspace loot is now available on the market, with predictable consequences (0.01 ISK games and babysitting). In before: "can I have your stuff", "HTFU", "adapt" and "good change lol". I have other plans for my stuff, as contract trading is not the only thing I do. "Adapt" in my case means I am quitting trade (and doing it in much disgust). I flat out refuse to deal with the horribly broken 0.01-ISKing mechanics, station owner standings and other wonderful Market innovations. I did not play that game since 2005 (when I just started EVE), and I will not start playing it now. The point I am trying to make is that CCP removed a feature that I (and many others) enjoyed, and now EVE is much more boring. Relatively few people did contract trading, and there is little-to-no outrage over this change, except of a short-ish discussion thread over in MD. However, there is definitely a slippery slope here. The contract traders got it now. Your chosen mini-profession could be next. Sad day. One door closes and another one opens. In the meantime copy some blueprints and have fun.
Roll Sizzle Beef Space Mutiny 258	Posted - 2012.04.24 15:56:00 - [3] - Quote I still see contracts from all over the universe when I do a search... working as intended.
Vertisce Soritenshi Varion Galactic Tragedy. 1551	Posted - 2012.04.24 15:58:00 - [4] - Quote You can't say "In before" for anything if you are the OP. That is just stupid. If you are quitting market trading because of this then you were doing it wrong to begin with. But...good luck to ya. HTFU and adapt or die! EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! - CCP!-á Open the door!!!
Benny Ohu The Lazy Dragoons True Apathy 56	Posted - 2012.04.24 15:58:00 - [5] - Quote I thought it made these modules a little less special now they're on the market. There might be less arsehats spamming massive orange walls of text in local, though.
Samillian Moonshine Industries The Last Chancers. 122	Posted - 2012.04.24 15:58:00 - [6] - Quote Contract -trading was a mini profession? I honestly thought it was just a way to avoid having to get your hands dirty on the work face of the market and gaining maximum profits from rare items.
Ellie McAmber Dandelion Wine Refineries Inc. 0	Posted - 2012.04.24 16:11:00 - [7] - Quote Samillian wrote: Contract -trading was a mini profession? I honestly thought it was just a way to avoid having to get your hands dirty on the work face of the market and gaining maximum profits from rare items. If by "getting your hands dirty" you mean "grind and babysit", then basically yes. Also, it was fun. Happy for you if you like the market as it is. But choice is always good, and it was taken away. Case in point is faction ships, which got this treatment some months ago.
Ellie McAmber Dandelion Wine Refineries Inc. 0	Posted - 2012.04.24 16:16:00 - [8] - Quote Vertisce Soritenshi wrote: You can't say "In before" for anything if you are the OP. That is just stupid. If you are quitting market trading because of this then you were doing it wrong to begin with. But...good luck to ya. HTFU and adapt or die! HTFU, as I was in before you. As for "doing it wrong", no I was not. I know about "other trade hubs", "just wait", "watch SiSi" and other folk lore. Also, it is very likely that my wallet laughs at you (but I would not bet my life on that). The change is not going to bankrupt me. But believe it or not, I actually enjoyed contracts and found trading fun. Not anymore.
Pillowtalk Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 141	Posted - 2012.04.24 16:16:00 - [9] - Quote Ellie McAmber wrote: As everyone might have noticed, CCP killed the contract-trading mini-profession with the latest patch. Most officer, faction and deadspace loot is now available on the market, with predictable consequences (0.01 ISK games and babysitting). In before: "can I have your stuff", "HTFU", "adapt" and "good change lol". I have other plans for my stuff, as contract trading is not the only thing I do. "Adapt" in my case means I am quitting trade (and doing it in much disgust). I flat out refuse to deal with the horribly broken 0.01-ISKing mechanics, station owner standings and other wonderful Market innovations. I did not play that game since 2005 (when I just started EVE), and I will not start playing it now. The point I am trying to make is that CCP removed a feature that I (and many others) enjoyed, and now EVE is much more boring. Relatively few people did contract trading, and there is little-to-no outrage over this change, except of a short-ish discussion thread over in MD. However, there is definitely a slippery slope here. The contract traders got it now. Your chosen mini-profession could be next. Sad day. TL:DR "I can't make as much money anymore because now the free market controls prices." Don't violence me bro!
Ellie McAmber Dandelion Wine Refineries Inc. 0	Posted - 2012.04.24 16:17:00 - [10] - Quote scooter Kondur wrote: One door closes and another one opens. In the meantime copy some blueprints and have fun. CCP have not opened any doors in a long while. Wait, I stand corrected. THE DOOR!
Destination SkillQueue Are We There Yet 2284	Posted - 2012.04.24 16:18:00 - [11] - Quote If it makes you feel better, this complaint has been heard many times before. Every time CCP improves or changes the game in some area, there are a few people who profited or gained an advantage from the previous situation who come to the forums lamenting how EVE has lost something of value. It can suck for that particular group of players, but CCP game development can't be held hostage to the preservation of every little niche their sandbox contains. That said, contract trading in general is cumbersome compared to market trading and I'm glad CCP finally made this change. It really is better not forcing people to use an inferior and more umbersome system for trading. Contracts still have their place and will continue to have that place with some rarer items, but only when there is a real advantage in advertising your item for the entire EVE compared to the ease of market trading.
Forum Harlot Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 5	Posted - 2012.04.24 16:18:00 - [12] - Quote scooter Kondur wrote: One door closes and another one opens. In the meantime copy some blueprints and have fun. Which door will be closed in order to open this?
Ellie McAmber Dandelion Wine Refineries Inc. 0	Posted - 2012.04.24 16:18:00 - [13] - Quote Pillowtalk wrote: TL:DR "I can't make as much money anymore because now the free market controls prices." I think you don't entirely understand what "free market" means.
Sekket Dissident Aggressors Mordus Angels 18	Posted - 2012.04.24 16:24:00 - [14] - Quote Guess you'lll just have to buy low sell high like the rest... - CQ isn't a refuge, it's a cage. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iu4iekX3WE
Mister Crispy AC Enterprises 8	Posted - 2012.04.24 16:25:00 - [15] - Quote Ellie McAmber wrote: Samillian wrote: Contract -trading was a mini profession? I honestly thought it was just a way to avoid having to get your hands dirty on the work face of the market and gaining maximum profits from rare items. If by "getting your hands dirty" you mean "grind and babysit", then basically yes. Also, it was fun. Happy for you if you like the market as it is. But choice is always good, and it was taken away. Case in point is faction ships, which got this treatment some months ago. Old system: People can use contracts New System: People can use contracts and market orders. Confirming that choice was taken away.
Jack Murdoc State War Academy Caldari State 1	Posted - 2012.04.24 16:29:00 - [16] - Quote It's a bit sad - I like the fact they add deadspace mods to the market, but it should be replaced with something like contrand trading etc. Just because Incarna got scrapped (thank the heavens) that doesn't mean the cool things (like contraband trading etc.) can't be implemented - it just needs to be implemented in another way.
Ranger 1 Ranger Corp 1645	Posted - 2012.04.24 16:30:00 - [17] - Quote Well, if you are offering fair prices, you can still sell via contracts... although you might consider putting together some sensible package deals. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point. Also, I can kill you with my brain.
stoicfaux 963	Posted - 2012.04.24 16:34:00 - [18] - Quote Bah, you don't people whining about lost sales to mission botters after the latest mass bot-ban. You can tell me what is and isn't Truth when you pry the tinfoil from my cold, lifeless head.
Azitek Astrum Tech Pina Colada Armada 59	Posted - 2012.04.24 16:34:00 - [19] - Quote Ellie McAmber wrote: Your chosen mini-profession could be next. You'll never be able to stop me making crap posts. NEVAR.
Chandaris Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel 67	Posted - 2012.04.24 16:36:00 - [20] - Quote I for one, welcome our new market faction overlords. -1
Trading Unknown Republic University Minmatar Republic 12	Posted - 2012.04.24 16:39:00 - [21] - Quote Forum Harlot wrote: scooter Kondur wrote: One door closes and another one opens. In the meantime copy some blueprints and have fun. Which door will be closed in order to open this? The docking bay doors. Can't have all that air escaping.
Cavel Avada Jericho Faction Rising Phoenix Alliance 4	Posted - 2012.04.24 16:40:00 - [22] - Quote Ellie McAmber wrote: As everyone might have noticed, CCP killed the contract-trading mini-profession with the latest patch. Most officer, faction and deadspace loot is now available on the market, with predictable consequences (0.01 ISK games and babysitting). In before: "can I have your stuff", "HTFU", "adapt" and "good change lol". I have other plans for my stuff, as contract trading is not the only thing I do. "Adapt" in my case means I am quitting trade (and doing it in much disgust). I flat out refuse to deal with the horribly broken 0.01-ISKing mechanics, station owner standings and other wonderful Market innovations. I did not play that game since 2005 (when I just started EVE), and I will not start playing it now. The point I am trying to make is that CCP removed a feature that I (and many others) enjoyed, and now EVE is much more boring. Relatively few people did contract trading, and there is little-to-no outrage over this change, except of a short-ish discussion thread over in MD. However, there is definitely a slippery slope here. The contract traders got it now. Your chosen mini-profession could be next. Sad day. They didn't remove anything. They added a feature which happens to affect a previous feature.
Cipher Jones The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars 494	Posted - 2012.04.24 16:45:00 - [23] - Quote Ellie McAmber wrote: As everyone might have noticed, CCP killed the contract-trading mini-profession with the latest patch. Most officer, faction and deadspace loot is now available on the market, with predictable consequences (0.01 ISK games and babysitting). In before: "can I have your stuff", "HTFU", "adapt" and "good change lol". I have other plans for my stuff, as contract trading is not the only thing I do. "Adapt" in my case means I am quitting trade (and doing it in much disgust). I flat out refuse to deal with the horribly broken 0.01-ISKing mechanics, station owner standings and other wonderful Market innovations. I did not play that game since 2005 (when I just started EVE), and I will not start playing it now. The point I am trying to make is that CCP removed a feature that I (and many others) enjoyed, and now EVE is much more boring. Relatively few people did contract trading, and there is little-to-no outrage over this change, except of a short-ish discussion thread over in MD. However, there is definitely a slippery slope here. The contract traders got it now. Your chosen mini-profession could be next. Sad day. Your argument is absolute fallacy. CCP changed something that now has more actions involved in the process than it did previously, and you are calling it "boring". Secondly, CCP removed no feature whatsoever. They added a feature. The old way is still there. ***** horribly broken .01 isk mechanics. Yeah its broken. Somebody go close down Ebay. They don't know what the they're doing. We now return you to your regularly scheduled ** poast.
War Kitten Panda McLegion 754	Posted - 2012.04.24 17:18:00 - [24] - Quote Posting in the best stealth titan nerf whine thread yet. 10/10 Here's your sign...
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 1417	Posted - 2012.04.24 17:44:00 - [25] - Quote My chosen profession of hawking radioactive baby food to Caldari yuppies does not appear to be threatened.
Ank Parkor WildSpace Otters 38	Posted - 2012.04.24 18:01:00 - [26] - Quote Same issue here. I used to highlight my market orders directly on my screen but CCP ruined it. Short time trader, short term missionner, long term ambitions. Bring justice to EVE:-áhttps://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1171333
Ghoest 338	Posted - 2012.04.24 18:02:00 - [27] - Quote lol the OP is grouping about improved market efficiency. crai more baby Wherever You Went - Here You Are
Bane Necran 356	Posted - 2012.04.24 18:05:00 - [28] - Quote I derive great pleasure from playing hardball with the .01isk people. Keep dropping the price by 100,000 when they do .01 and watch them get their panties in a knot. That brittle rage, the bitter rubble, take your time and bring the trouble.
Sid Hudgens 20	Posted - 2012.04.24 18:30:00 - [29] - Quote Quote: Agents & Missions Agents' showinfo windows will now properly explain the minimum standings requirements needed to use them. As everyone might have noticed, CCP killed the explaining minimum standings mini-profession with the latest patch. Most minimum standings requirements are now available on the showinfo windows, with predictable consequences (nobody asks what the minimum standings for an agent are anymore). In before: "can I have your stuff", "HTFU", "adapt" and "good change lol". I have other plans for my stuff, as explaining minimum standing is not the only thing I do. "Adapt" in my case means I am quitting chat (and doing it in much disgust). I flat out refuse to deal with informed newbies, lack of standings questions and other wonderful showinfo innovations. I did not play that game since 2007 (when I just started EVE), and I will not start playing it now. The point I am trying to make is that CCP removed a feature that I (and many others) enjoyed, and now EVE is much more boring. Relatively few people explained minimum standings, and there is little-to-no outrage over this change, except of a short-ish discussion thread over in EMSD. However, there is definitely a slippery slope here. The standings explainers got it now. Your chosen mini-profession could be next. Sad day. "....as if 10,058 Goon voices cried out and were suddenly silenced."
Iria Ahrens Freelance Economics Astrological resources Tactical Narcotics Team 16	Posted - 2012.04.24 18:36:00 - [30] - Quote You know, it is possible that the prices might go up exposing the market to a wider audience.

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