As everyone might have noticed, CCP killed the contract-trading mini-profession with the latest patch.

Most officer, faction and deadspace loot is now available on the market, with predictable consequences (0.01 ISK games and babysitting).

In before: "can I have your stuff", "HTFU", "adapt" and "good change lol". I have other plans for my stuff, as contract trading is not the only thing I do. "Adapt" in my case means I am quitting trade (and doing it in much disgust). I flat out refuse to deal with the horribly broken 0.01-ISKing mechanics, station owner standings and other wonderful Market innovations. I did not play that game since 2005 (when I just started EVE), and I will not start playing it now.

The point I am trying to make is that CCP removed a feature that I (and many others) enjoyed, and now EVE is much more boring.

Relatively few people did contract trading, and there is little-to-no outrage over this change, except of a short-ish discussion thread over in MD. However, there is definitely a slippery slope here. The contract traders got it now. Your chosen mini-profession could be next.

Sad day.

Contract -trading was a mini profession?

I honestly thought it was just a way to avoid having to get your hands dirty on the work face of the market and gaining maximum profits from rare items.

You can't say "In before" for anything if you are the OP. That is just stupid.

If you are quitting market trading because of this then you were doing it wrong to begin with. But...good luck to ya. HTFU and adapt or die!

As everyone might have noticed, CCP killed the contract-trading mini-profession with the latest patch.

Most officer, faction and deadspace loot is now available on the market, with predictable consequences (0.01 ISK games and babysitting).

In before: "can I have your stuff", "HTFU", "adapt" and "good change lol". I have other plans for my stuff, as contract trading is not the only thing I do. "Adapt" in my case means I am quitting trade (and doing it in much disgust). I flat out refuse to deal with the horribly broken 0.01-ISKing mechanics, station owner standings and other wonderful Market innovations. I did not play that game since 2005 (when I just started EVE), and I will not start playing it now.

The point I am trying to make is that CCP removed a feature that I (and many others) enjoyed, and now EVE is much more boring.

Relatively few people did contract trading, and there is little-to-no outrage over this change, except of a short-ish discussion thread over in MD. However, there is definitely a slippery slope here. The contract traders got it now. Your chosen mini-profession could be next.

Sad day.

One door closes and another one opens. In the meantime copy some blueprints and have fun.

One door closes and another one opens. In the meantime copy some blueprints and have fun.

TL:DR "I can't make as much money anymore because now the free market controls prices."

If by "getting your hands dirty" you mean "grind and babysit", then basically yes. Also, it was fun.
Happy for you if you like the market as it is.
But choice is always good, and it was taken away. Case in point is faction ships, which got this treatment some months ago.

Your chosen mini-profession could be next.

Which door will be closed in order to open this?

As everyone might have noticed, CCP killed the contract-trading mini-profession with the latest patch.

Most officer, faction and deadspace loot is now available on the market, with predictable consequences (0.01 ISK games and babysitting).

In before: "can I have your stuff", "HTFU", "adapt" and "good change lol". I have other plans for my stuff, as contract trading is not the only thing I do. "Adapt" in my case means I am quitting trade (and doing it in much disgust). I flat out refuse to deal with the horribly broken 0.01-ISKing mechanics, station owner standings and other wonderful Market innovations. I did not play that game since 2005 (when I just started EVE), and I will not start playing it now.

The point I am trying to make is that CCP removed a feature that I (and many others) enjoyed, and now EVE is much more boring.

Relatively few people did contract trading, and there is little-to-no outrage over this change, except of a short-ish discussion thread over in MD. However, there is definitely a slippery slope here. The contract traders got it now. Your chosen mini-profession could be next.

Sad day.

As everyone might have noticed, CCP killed the contract-trading mini-profession with the latest patch.

Most officer, faction and deadspace loot is now available on the market, with predictable consequences (0.01 ISK games and babysitting).

In before: "can I have your stuff", "HTFU", "adapt" and "good change lol". I have other plans for my stuff, as contract trading is not the only thing I do. "Adapt" in my case means I am quitting trade (and doing it in much disgust). I flat out refuse to deal with the horribly broken 0.01-ISKing mechanics, station owner standings and other wonderful Market innovations. I did not play that game since 2005 (when I just started EVE), and I will not start playing it now.

The point I am trying to make is that CCP removed a feature that I (and many others) enjoyed, and now EVE is much more boring.

Relatively few people did contract trading, and there is little-to-no outrage over this change, except of a short-ish discussion thread over in MD. However, there is definitely a slippery slope here. The contract traders got it now. Your chosen mini-profession could be next.

Sad day.

Agents & Missions

Agents' showinfo windows will now properly explain the minimum standings requirements needed to use them.

You know, it is possible that the prices might go up exposing the market to a wider audience.

I think it's a bit of a bogus change.

At least with the old contract system you could view a complete listing of a specific item within the Eve Universe and then travel to the location with the lowest price.

Didn't see anything mentioned about the Market being able to show a complete listing for a specific item within the Eve universe.

As everyone might have noticed, CCP killed the explaining minimum standings mini-profession with the latest patch.

Most minimum standings requirements are now available on the showinfo windows, with predictable consequences (nobody asks what the minimum standings for an agent are anymore).

In before: "can I have your stuff", "HTFU", "adapt" and "good change lol". I have other plans for my stuff, as explaining minimum standing is not the only thing I do. "Adapt" in my case means I am quitting chat (and doing it in much disgust). I flat out refuse to deal with informed newbies, lack of standings questions and other wonderful showinfo innovations. I did not play that game since 2007 (when I just started EVE), and I will not start playing it now.

The point I am trying to make is that CCP removed a feature that I (and many others) enjoyed, and now EVE is much more boring.

Relatively few people explained minimum standings, and there is little-to-no outrage over this change, except of a short-ish discussion thread over in EMSD. However, there is definitely a slippery slope here. The standings explainers got it now. Your chosen mini-profession could be next.

Sad day.

One door closes and another one opens. In the meantime copy some blueprints and have fun.

I think you don't entirely understand what "free market" means.

But now you have a history of the pricing and quantities in the region, you don't have that on contracts.

Nothing is stopping you from still using contracts, in fact people will still buy from them out of habbit and compare with market prices, a lot of the time u can buy a fitted ship to strip down and sell items as profit and then the ship :)

It also gives you an advantage on the region blindness, you can now haul between regions and manipulate them easier.

AND it also lowers chat contract link spam.

You can't say "In before" for anything if you are the OP. That is just stupid.

If you are quitting market trading because of this then you were doing it wrong to begin with. But...good luck to ya. HTFU and adapt or die!

When I created this character, I did so with the goal of getting a perfect refine on Meta 0 mission loot which I'd buy, refine and sell the minerals. Then they announced that Meta 0 and drone poo wouldn't drop anymore.

My level of butthurt: 0%

I adapt and find new ways to make money.

My only complaint is that I am a exploration expert.....not a trader, I want to be running sites and scanning, not babysitting 0.1 isk bull****. Will try to stick to contracts and see if that works out, probably not though.

This is a fantastic change and I'm sorry it pissed on you and a handful of people but the benefits in this case, are huge.

Regional price diversity. No longer will prices be set by a universal wide contract system; we might even see some of the current "barely worth it" LP items becoming worthwhile again

Visibility. Does a newbie search for a Coreli C-Type Thermal Plate? Of course fecking not. Now though they can just open the market and see this module right there, they are pretty cheap and not a bad idea in some cases on dessies and the like.

More intra-regional trading opportunities. Chances are Coreli will be cheap in Gallente, and Gistii in Minmatar, let the trade runs commence.

Sorry you got pissed on, but in this case, its for the greater good.

My only complaint is that I am a exploration expert.....not a trader, I want to be running sites and scanning, not babysitting 0.1 isk bull****. Will try to stick to contracts and see if that works out, probably not though.

You know, if someone does -.01 ISK you that only means his sells first... it doesn't mean that yours won't sell at all.

But now you have a history of the pricing and quantities in the region, you don't have that on contracts.

Nothing is stopping you from still using contracts, in fact people will still buy from them out of habbit and compare with market prices, a lot of the time u can buy a fitted ship to strip down and sell items as profit and then the ship :)

It also gives you an advantage on the region blindness, you can now haul between regions and manipulate them easier.

AND it also lowers chat contract link spam.

CCP killed my mini-profession today. Is yours next?

Conferming, one less scammer has left the game

If by "getting your hands dirty" you mean "grind and babysit", then basically yes. Also, it was fun.
Happy for you if you like the market as it is.
But choice is always good, and it was taken away. Case in point is faction ships, which got this treatment some months ago.

It was ******** that faction items weren't on the market to begin with.

Prostitution is the oldest and most respected profession in the known Universe !!

They've killed my interest in looting wreaks.



Who the hell wants to keep looting worthless metal scraps, at least meta 0 was useful in a small way.

Man and I hated drone missions BEFORE this change

At least my subs up in 4 days. I found missions fairly boring before they're even more boring now.

Aw, i was liking the cut of your jib here on the forums.

You'll probably be back. I've left several times. Each more convinced it was forever than the last.

Not so sure about that, done quite a few things in-game some of those things I have no interest in any longer. I could hang around for FW but not that confident that CCP won't mess that up. Been in and out since 2005 so maybe it's just time.

CCP needs to fix the constant 0.01 isk wars by putting a hefty price change fee of 1%, instead of a 100 isk.

d of R&D agents (well theyre planning to if you see that video with CCP Guard I think where he says "if youre smart youll cash in before the epansion" or something to that effect) and forcing that system through FW (though youd think theyd give FW love before forcing the tech II market through it).

But hey, if yer not comin back anywsyd, wanna hook me up with your Isk?

CCP killed my mini-profession today. Is yours next?.

But choice is always good, and it was taken away. Case in point is faction ships, which got this treatment some months ago.

There are all sorts of different types of trading than playing the .01 cent game.

Once you get out of Jita they open up. Even in the forge you can sucessfully sell things in other systems for different prices. People don't always want to take a 6 or 8 jump round trip.

I sell some stuff even right next to Jita, likely because undocking is a pain or war-decs keep cautious players from making that last jump.