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Izanami Rei
Caldari State Protectorate
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Posted - 2009.02.23 23:51:00 -
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I have seen defeat in the eyes of my kinsmen, and for that my heart weeps..
But to admit defeat is to invite it! We will not fall to the Gallente, We did not bulk under the weight of the larger Federation decades ago and we will not do so now! The loss of Caldari Prime has been undone by the Forces of the state, both by the empyrian and the Men and Women Serving in the Navy and at home, indeed where else will you see such dedication? Upon the victory of our ancestral home, a statewide holiday was declared. Yet our citezens returned to work instantly, toiling harder than ever for the betterment of the state! Where else will you see such sacrifice?
Taking back Caldari prime, does that not serve as proof to our Military Supremecy? We hold the smallest military force of the four Empires, yet we are as stong as any who would dare to oppose us, Nay we are stronger! I know that times are hard on us all, we have lost many ships, the lives of our crews extinguished again and again by Gallente hands. But we will Persevere! For we Caldarians are born for competition, we are bred to overcome all oppositions and for each dager we face we grow stronger! Each man and woman of our State have been trained in the art of combat, each ready to give his or her life for the preservation of all we believe in. But it will not come to this, for I know that while The State Protectorate stands, it will safeguard Caldari from all her enemies!
We are not losing, we have not been defeated and we will not be!
Stand Strong Kinsmen! Arm your Raven and fit your Rohk! Let your missiles strike true, let our banners fly high in the Name of victory! For we will be VICTRIOUS!
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Kyoko Sakoda
Caldari Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2009.02.24 00:20:00 -
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You're obviously Achuran and care about the so-called loss of Caldari Prime why, exactly?
Gods and spirits, I weep for my country.
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Kathryn Dougans
Amarr B. S. Radioactive Sheep Farm
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Posted - 2009.02.24 00:43:00 -
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*applauds politely*
That's a very umm... err... speech.
Well done. Yes.
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Tractus Vesica
Caldari Order of the Black Dragons
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Posted - 2009.02.24 01:49:00 -
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As long as many Gallente and Minmatar die horrible painful deaths, Ill be happy. >>Insert generic signature here<< |

Jon Rocks
Amarr Quadrans Muralis
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Posted - 2009.02.24 01:57:00 -
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Keep up the good work. May god light your path to victory.
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Stitcher
Caldari ForgeTech Industries
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Posted - 2009.02.24 03:11:00 -
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Very stirring. Or at least, better than that other guy's was. - Verin "Stitcher" Hakatain. |

Sky Grunthor
Minmatar The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc. Balance of Judgment
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Posted - 2009.02.24 04:40:00 -
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I find it strange that CalMil has gone to great length and achievement in conquering Verge Vindor and yet they seem more despondent than ever.
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Stitcher
Caldari ForgeTech Industries
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Posted - 2009.02.24 05:27:00 -
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There's an old Caldari miner's joke/drinking game that applies here. Unfortunately, it loses a lot in translation - in Caldanese, it's actually a somewhat witty pun.
The rules are simple: you repeat the chorus and add a line each time. After the fourth one, you can start making your own up.
It goes:
"break the galaxy's people into their smallest atoms Run their atoms through the finest sift search the dust with the most sensitive tool
You won't find:
A grain of Amarrian humility A quantum of Minmatar restraint A particle of Caldari optimism A single Gallentean testicle." - Verin "Stitcher" Hakatain. |

Inara Subaka
Caldari the united Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2009.02.24 05:33:00 -
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Originally by: Stitcher There's an old Caldari miner's joke/drinking game that applies here. Unfortunately, it loses a lot in translation - in Caldanese, it's actually a somewhat witty pun.
The rules are simple: you repeat the chorus and add a line each time. After the fourth one, you can start making your own up.
It goes:
"break the galaxy's people into their smallest atoms Run their atoms through the finest sift search the dust with the most sensitive tool
You won't find:
A grain of Amarrian humility A quantum of Minmatar restraint A particle of Caldari optimism A single Gallentean testicle."
*Inara takes a drink and adds*
A speck of CONCORD justice.
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Myrhial Arkenath
Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2009.02.24 07:49:00 -
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That is all nice and well but one planet didn't really change much, did it now? Save the speeches for now and rather figure out why it didn't. And no the answer is not any Gallente still left there.
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Davlos
Slacker Industries The Boat Violencing Initiative
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Posted - 2009.02.24 10:57:00 -
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Yawn. ---
Originally by: Revan Neferis
Scientific category of gravitation fields and velocity is force....
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Izanami Amane
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Posted - 2009.02.24 12:29:00 -
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Originally by: Kyoko Sakoda You're obviously Achuran and care about the so-called loss of Caldari Prime why, exactly? Gods and spirits, I weep for my country.
So, you're obvously part of a DED declared Pirate organisation and yet feel justfied questioning my dedication? This was a great victory for my comrades in the state. And if you indeed feel so greatly for the direction the state is heading in why dont you come back here and do something about?
Originally by: Kathryn Dougans *applauds politely* That's a very umm... err... speech. Well done. Yes.
Thank you for your curtesy
Originally by: Tractus Vesica As long as many Gallente and Minmatar die horrible painful deaths, Ill be happy.
Thats the Spirit, feel free to contribute to the war effort in any way you can.
Originally by: Jon Rocks Keep up the good work. May god light your path to victory.
I thank you, and likewise I wish your people luck in The Bleak Lands.
Originally by: Stitcher Very stirring. Or at least, better than that other guy's was.
Thanks, thats what I was going for.
Originally by: Sky Grunthor I find it strange that CalMil has gone to great length and achievement in conquering Verge Vindor and yet they seem more despondent than ever.
It is indeed saddening, but that achivement was done by the caldari Navy, and should serve of an example.
Originally by: Myrhial Arkenath That is all nice and well but one planet didn't really change much, did it now? Save the speeches for now and rather figure out why it didn't. And no the answer is not any Gallente still left there.
I dont believe in Genoside, so that wouldn't be the answer for anything. Besides, change is the result of a completed action, we took Caldari Prime but we are still at war. But atleast now we can protect our artifacts from Gallente hooligans and the likes, atleast now the Caldari people and not the Gallenteans can hold the riches that the planet holds. Speak all you want of Gallentean Ideology, throughout the Gallente occupancy they have all but denied the Caldarian citizens there the wealth they gained from mining and the likes.
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Davlos
Slacker Industries The Boat Violencing Initiative
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Posted - 2009.02.24 12:39:00 -
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What "riches" do you speak of? Caldari Prime is worth nothing. Strategically, economically, or anything whatsoever. It's just a floating piece of slagged rock from the orbital bombardment and the useless, hollow vessel of the useless, raging emotions of equally useless Patriots such as you. ---
Originally by: Revan Neferis
Scientific category of gravitation fields and velocity is force....
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Myrhial Arkenath
Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2009.02.24 12:46:00 -
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Originally by: Izanami Amane
Originally by: Myrhial Arkenath That is all nice and well but one planet didn't really change much, did it now? Save the speeches for now and rather figure out why it didn't. And no the answer is not any Gallente still left there.
I dont believe in Genoside, so that wouldn't be the answer for anything. Besides, change is the result of a completed action, we took Caldari Prime but we are still at war. But atleast now we can protect our artifacts from Gallente hooligans and the likes, atleast now the Caldari people and not the Gallenteans can hold the riches that the planet holds. Speak all you want of Gallentean Ideology, throughout the Gallente occupancy they have all but denied the Caldarian citizens there the wealth they gained from mining and the likes.
Plenty of planets out there with riches. I don't believe that played a role in all this. It's a convenience at best.
Also, those artifacts would most likely have been left untouched if no reason to do so had been given.
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Dex Nederland
Caldari Lai Dai Infinity Systems
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Posted - 2009.02.24 13:20:00 -
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Edited by: Dex Nederland on 24/02/2009 13:20:06
Originally by: Myrhial Arkenath Also, those artifacts would most likely have been left untouched if no reason to do so had been given.
Events prior to the liberation indicate otherwise. Caldari Prime was deep into civil unrest, its native (Caldari) population under separate martial law due to protesting that led to riots because that is just what Gallente citizenry did. Federation Gallente citizens attack scared monuments and destroy historical artifacts, defiling the spirits that inhabit those locations. The Federation Caldari citizens were punished; the Federation failed to apply its freedoms equally.
There is more to value than mineral riches or strategic importance. If it is truly worth nothing then the Federation should not have any problem with the State retaking its homeworld. Yet in order to secure it we must threaten making another world "a floating piece of slagged rock from the orbital bombardment and [a]... hollow vessel of the useless".
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Vincent Death
Caldari K Directorate
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Posted - 2009.02.24 13:39:00 -
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Originally by: Sky Grunthor I find it strange that CalMil has gone to great length and achievement in conquering Verge Vindor and yet they seem more despondent than ever.
You should not find it strange at all, pilot. The militia members bemoaning the state of the war are generally those who rush headlong into Tama and OMS. Gallente agents know of their fleet strength well in advance and annihilate them on a regular basis.
Verge Vendor was taken by a number of corporations working in concert, sharing intelligence and logistics. Professional capsuleers who appraise the situation at hand and act accordingly. Those who fight on their own terms and complete their objectives with efficiency. The pilots involved are, of course, too many to name.
From my experience, the Caldari war effort is going well. Things may be going badly in OMS and Tama, but that meat grinder does very little to aid either sides war effort. It just makes local manufacturers richer.
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Kyoko Sakoda
Caldari Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2009.02.24 17:29:00 -
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Originally by: Izanami Amane So, you're obvously part of a DED declared Pirate organisation and yet feel justfied questioning my dedication?
Yes, yes I do. I'll question the legitimacy of any government that exercises too much control over cultural elements; the DED for perpetuating whispers of false security, and Heth's Provists for turning Caldari like you -- even Achurans! -- into mindless drones. When will we Caldari learn that selflessness doesn't mean a sacrifice in forward thinking? In years time, hopefully sooner, you'll be ashamed of yourself.
Originally by: Izanami Amane This was a great victory for my comrades in the state. And if you indeed feel so greatly for the direction the state is heading in why dont you come back here and do something about?
Because I'd have people like you to contend with.
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Izanami Rei
Caldari State Protectorate
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Posted - 2009.02.24 18:18:00 -
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Edited by: Izanami Rei on 24/02/2009 18:19:08 Edited by: Izanami Rei on 24/02/2009 18:18:26
Originally by: Kyoko Sakoda Because I'd have people like you to contend with.
Touche
((Apperently you cant make the right type of e appear on this forum))
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Tractus Vesica
Caldari Order of the Black Dragons
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Posted - 2009.02.25 00:06:00 -
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Originally by: Inara Subaka
Originally by: Stitcher There's an old Caldari miner's joke/drinking game that applies here. Unfortunately, it loses a lot in translation - in Caldanese, it's actually a somewhat witty pun.
The rules are simple: you repeat the chorus and add a line each time. After the fourth one, you can start making your own up.
It goes:
"break the galaxy's people into their smallest atoms Run their atoms through the finest sift search the dust with the most sensitive tool
You won't find:
A grain of Amarrian humility A quantum of Minmatar restraint A particle of Caldari optimism A single Gallentean testicle."
*Inara takes a drink and adds*
A speck of CONCORD justice.
*Yawns and eats a grape*
"A fragment of Jove...anything" >>Insert generic signature here<< |

Aria Jenneth
Caldari Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2009.02.25 00:29:00 -
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Edited by: Aria Jenneth on 25/02/2009 00:31:23
Originally by: Tractus Vesica *Yawns and eats a grape*
"A fragment of Jove...anything"
Your pod would like a word with you, pilot.
Originally by: Davlos ... the useless, raging emotions of equally useless Patriots such as you.
Davlos, would you kindly watch where you're waving that paintbrush?
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Davlos
Slacker Industries The Boat Violencing Initiative
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Posted - 2009.02.25 11:31:00 -
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Originally by: Aria Jenneth
Davlos, would you kindly watch where you're waving that paintbrush?
I wave my paintbrush wherever I please. Some artists call it calligraphy.
Would you prefer me to stick my paintbrush at you? You may find it somewhat pleasurable.
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Originally by: Revan Neferis
Scientific category of gravitation fields and velocity is force....
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Aria Jenneth
Caldari Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2009.02.25 16:41:00 -
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Originally by: Davlos I wave my paintbrush wherever I please. Some artists call it calligraphy.
Would you prefer me to stick my paintbrush at you? You may find it somewhat pleasurable.
Calligraphy is an art of grace, control, and precision. What you are doing is making a mess, old comrade.
Care to guess why I'm irritated, I say as I wipe the paint from my cheek?
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Tractus Vesica
Caldari Order of the Black Dragons
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Posted - 2009.02.25 18:17:00 -
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Originally by: Aria Jenneth
Originally by: Davlos I wave my paintbrush wherever I please. Some artists call it calligraphy.
Would you prefer me to stick my paintbrush at you? You may find it somewhat pleasurable.
Calligraphy is an art of grace, control, and precision. What you are doing is making a mess, old comrade.
Care to guess why I'm irritated, I say as I wipe the paint from my cheek?
Thats not paint...


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Izanami Rei
Caldari State Protectorate
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Posted - 2009.02.26 00:57:00 -
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Dear Davlos: The siege of Caldari Prime lasted less than a day, bombardments were centered around strategic targets, and while the cities might be scared most of the civilian settlements remained unharmed.. "floating piece of slagged rock" The first war ended you know, there havn't been any bombardments other than the most recent ones.. Its not like they were shooting Oblivion firering Titans at the planet. And I know that sounds stupid, but not half as stupid as the blatant belligerence mongering you've been slinging out so far.
Other than that I'd like to commend Vincent Death and Dex Nederland for sharing their objective insight in this matter.
Aria Jenneth, I have heard rumors of your desire to protect your birth home during this struggle, have those contemplations been discarded?
Kyoko Sakoda, you to yours and me to mine, we both believe in something that is greater than our selves. I want to protect the Caldari state, more than anything I wish that the events at Malkalen had never unfolded. Then perhaps this discussion would never have been. And yes I have been made aware of the victories of the victories in Verge Vendor, made possible by the dedicated corporations serving in the protectorate, but still I feel that the Singly enlisted needs someone on the soapbox, especially in face of the recent statements. But while I might be shamed of my words and actions one day, consider that you yourself might choke on the blood, unnecessarily spilled by yourself and Veto, out there long away from home.
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Aria Jenneth
Caldari Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2009.02.26 02:03:00 -
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Originally by: Izanami Rei Aria Jenneth, I have heard rumors of your desire to protect your birth home during this struggle, have those contemplations been discarded?
My desires have not changed, Ms. Rei. What has changed is my belief in my fitness to act as a State agent, and my ability to do so. I came to believe, not so very long ago, that I could set my ... proclivities ... aside, become a part of human, of State, society again, and aid in the defense of what I value.
I knew I was one of the "demented," my psychology modified by the nature of my work. I knew in what little regard I held human life, how little kinship I felt for humanity, how willing I was to kill. I knew that my every inhibition on the mass-slaughter of innocents was entirely intellectual; my emotional inhibitions were, and are, non-existent. I knew all of this, and still I went and tried to be a good little soldier.
I learned, to my cost and my family's, how much of a mistake that was.
Whether my changed nature was really the reason for Grandfather's death, I do not know; I do not know whether the disregard for life pilots routinely display when jacked in generally does or can extend to encounters face to face. I do know that, when I broke Grandfather's neck on the evening of my second day home, I knew exactly what I was doing. I also know that the embarrassing little half-Civire Aria Jenneth who left for academy aiming to prove her worth to her mother's family or mind-lock trying would never have so much as contemplated such an act.
So, I have two reasons for not aiding the State at this point, Ms. Rei. First, I am not a fit servant for civilized humans, even ruthless ones. Second, I have failed to keep my hands clean within the jurisdiction of stationside security. I have committed murder out-of-pod and am therefore subject to stationside arrest if I put myself within reach of certain interested entities.
My best wishes and prayers still go with with the State Protectorate. I am a Patriot by philosophy, though my strongest ties lie with the Liberals. I am guri and a kinslayer, and it may be that I am a traitor to my clan, but I am still Achur and still Caldari. I am still that much.
So no, Ms. Rei, those contemplations have not been discarded. But they are like faded pictures or damaged mementos to me now: useless echoes of who I was and can never be again.
I've chosen exile, and keep company better suited to my nature. I may long to aid the State, but such aid will come, if at all, from a safe distance for all concerned.
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Kyoko Sakoda
Caldari Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2009.02.26 16:03:00 -
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Originally by: Izanami Rei Kyoko Sakoda, you to yours and me to mine, we both believe in something that is greater than our selves. I want to protect the Caldari state, more than anything I wish that the events at Malkalen had never unfolded. Then perhaps this discussion would never have been. And yes I have been made aware of the victories of the victories in Verge Vendor, made possible by the dedicated corporations serving in the protectorate, but still I feel that the Singly enlisted needs someone on the soapbox, especially in face of the recent statements. But while I might be shamed of my words and actions one day, consider that you yourself might choke on the blood, unnecessarily spilled by yourself and Veto, out there long away from home.
Conquest is not a pursuit greater than oneself.
I'm not ashamed of what I am, given the circumstances. I wish I was something else, but there is no way in seven hells that I would return home under the fascist fist of the Directorate. It's a pure motivation to find a better purpose that drives me Northward (and it drew me Southeasterly at one point, as well).
It's too bad, because I did consider returning home before.
The State is in a position of ideological slavery. This is not the same as the selflessness and work ethic we Caldari so admire. Nor would any sane Caldari wish, regardless of our military strength, for war. We're a tiny nation and we've been through too much to look in that direction. But Heth has, and he has quite possibly sealed our fate.
That's not a statement of any belief in Federal superiority. That's a matter of fact. We Caldari have doomed ourselves to miseries of the past, because for some reason we think with our biceps and not with our heads. No great Caldari has ever been known for his brawn. They've all been known for their wit and sagacity, creativity and success.
You tell me I'll choke on the blood I spill. What about your own? What is the difference between you and I, other than than that you follow a racist bigot and I take charge of my own dreams?
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William Ytiri
YTiRi Retail
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Posted - 2009.02.26 17:16:00 -
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Originally by: Kyoko Sakoda
there is no way in seven hells that I would return home under the fascist fist of the Directorate.
In my opinion you give the CPD far too much credit of being an oppressive force. CPD is a practical implementation of an agreement, nothing more.
A practical implementation of a strategic alliance between the megacorporations (and even Ishukone that joined a few days later). An agreement between the Kaalakiota-Ytiri conglomorate and the other megacorporations that centralized access to a combined industrial base. Centralized access to turn the economic tides and make sure that we could unite to say: the attack on Ishukone was an attack against us all, we are ready to turn the tide!
It is that decision of those very megacorporations which fueled the very existance of CPD. It was their combined agreement that ceded strategic control to the CPD. It made sure that with CAESA the economy started to work again and we could stand up against the Gallente threat.
Perhaps some of them didn't think it through, perhaps some didn't understand all the consequences the agreement had, but:
They were all there, they all made it happen ... I'm sure they all can make it "unhappen".
I, for one, am proud to be part of it until it looses it's profitability.
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Kyoko Sakoda
Caldari Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2009.02.26 20:50:00 -
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Originally by: William Ytiri A practical implementation of a strategic alliance between the megacorporations (and even Ishukone that joined a few days later). An agreement between the Kaalakiota-Ytiri conglomorate and the other megacorporations that centralized access to a combined industrial base. Centralized access to turn the economic tides and make sure that we could unite to say: the attack on Ishukone was an attack against us all, we are ready to turn the tide!
You miss the fact that one man has a supreme amount of influence -- if not direct control -- over the resources. Strategic alliances between corporations I take no issue with. I am a businesswoman. But the State has never before been more or less led by one man with an iron grip over public sentiment and the hard-produced resources they have to offer. That I do have a problem with.
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William Ytiri
YTiRi Retail
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Posted - 2009.02.26 23:27:00 -
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And so it is the burden of that one man in the knowledge that he can do no good for one, but has to do for many so different, all to saturate our common wish for the good of the whole.
I think even Tibus Heth knows he has been granted the tools by the megacorporations to eventually fail under the stress of new competition, but not before he had his chance to restore our State's dignity to his ideas. Such has allways been our way and tradition. *His* State is now, but not forever.
Afterall, we all know only SuVee is forever, right?
*William grins a bit after he said that last sentence*
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Izanami Rei
Caldari State Protectorate
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Posted - 2009.03.05 00:27:00 -
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Originally by: Kyoko Sakoda You tell me I'll choke on the blood I spill. What about your own? What is the difference between you and I, other than than that you follow a racist bigot and I take charge of my own dreams?
I'm no way telling you that you will, I'm merely posing the question before you. First and foremost I am a soldier while a soldier is needed, I take to the enemy when asked yet I still find time to remind myself as to why I rose to the stars in the first place.
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