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ebonyivory
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Posted - 2009.03.06 22:35:00 -
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Originally by: FOl2TY8
Originally by: ebonyivory
Its not shoved down their throats on purpose though is it. Least not im most cases
And you still dont here of straight pride week. I mean the way they go about it is entirely pathetic. They want people to leave them alone and accept them for who they are yet they make a dam fuss about being noticed dont they....
I feel sorry for you that you can't reconcile the fact that an entire segment of society yearns for equal rights. If this fight annoys you maybe you should pray more, or whatever an idiotic bigot (that's you) does in times of confusion.
Religious people that complain about things annoy me too, but I don't think they have any less of a right to complain simply because I don't agree. I just make sure that every time I do my wife in the brown eye I thank god for making it so tight. Praise jesus!
Haha praying thats rich i hate religous people almost asmuch as i hate whiny pussies like you
Gays are equal you pillock stop conjuring up demons because you feel like you arent heard about enough
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2009.03.06 22:39:00 -
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Originally by: ebonyivory Its not shoved down their throats on purpose though is it. Least not im most cases
Whether it's deliberate or not doesn't matter, what matters is the end result.
Quote: And you still dont here of straight pride week. I mean the way they go about it is entirely pathetic. They want people to leave them alone and accept them for who they are yet they make a dam fuss about being noticed dont they....
You know why? Because "straight pride week" is 51 weeks a year.
As for being accepted, yes, they want to be accepted, not just ignored by a society that refuses to really admit that such horrible sinners even exist. Being pushed away from the rest of society is not the same as being left alone and accepted.
As for you, Tractus Vesica, you are still a ****ing idiot.
Your use of "unnatural" is pure bull****. "Natural", last time I checked, has not been redefined to mean "those things that I find acceptable". Homosexuality is just as natural as heterosexuality, like it or not.
Your references to "purpose" are even more bull****. Not only have beneficial purposes been proposed (hint: your genes are carried by more than just your direct offspring), but your whole argument is nonsense. Even if we grant the assumption that homosexuality is a non-productive genetic "mistake", so are quite a few other things. For example, I have the non-productive mistake of poor vision, and for 99% of human history, that fact would have been a serious threat to my chances of reproduction (can't reproduce if you're dead, after all). Do we say that I have a choice to need glasses? Hell no. Lack of purpose =/= choice.
And not only are your arguments about choice pure bull****, but they demonstrate that you are even more of a ****ing idiot than I originally thought. I would lecture you on the differences between feeling attraction and acting on attraction, or direct you to the scientific research on the subject, or any of a few other approaches, but I have a very simple one instead: I'll just repeat the question you've dodged once already:
Tractus Vesica, when, exactly, did you choose to be straight? Please describe your process of considering all possible options equally, and then settling on your current preferences (in gender/appearance/personality) for rational reasons.
When you finally admit that you can not do this (because you never made a conscious choice), consider this: your preferences, as you just saw, are (at least in large part) determined by factors outside of your conscious control. You do have a "choice" about how to act on them, in the sense that you could deny your attraction to other men, force yourself into an unhappy marriage with a woman (but hey, Jesus loves the fact that you only have sex once a year and only to have kids), and then end up trolling airport bathrooms for anonymous sex with republican senators. But do you really consider this a "choice"? -----------
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ebonyivory
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Posted - 2009.03.06 22:41:00 -
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Originally by: Slade Trillgon
If you were a minority and you were constantly being discriminated against would you not do all in your power to change things? Would you not do all in your power to make it blatantly obvious that your population is not really that different and deserves the same respect and rights given to the majority?
Whether the shove is intentional or not does not really matter. The fact that homosexuals are in a minority, and in the States, live in a place where they are looked down upon and discriminated against in many places, justifies their cries in many but not all circumstances.
Then again this does not matter if you think that homosexuals need to continue to hide in the closet from society and accept their less then equal standings as citizens.
This MS incident being case and point. MS has every right to police their site as they see fit. This individual definitely handled the situation incorrectly. If they really wanted to prove a point they should have created a profile that said I am heterosexual, then get someone to complain about it, and see if the results were the same.
Slade
Im not sure how they handle things over in the u s of fail but over here you dont get people discriminating against gays (atleast not where i live , england) Sure people find it abit sick but then im sure that gays think that hetersexuals are abit sick aswell.
So what your saying is that in a society where people do kick up minimal fuss these days if you want to be accepted as equals you should infact prarade around the streets making alot of noise and generally ****ing people off.....wonder why gays think they are hated.
Also the majority always comes before the minority thats just tough luck
Thats your problem the usf (f=fail) is full of idiots anyway so your just screwed
They arent less than equal citizens you pillock (im bringing it back) gays have the same oppurtunities as males and in some places more oppurtunities (fashion and such) it balances out in the end its the same with every divide such as between boys and girls...for example men tend to be better at manual labour whereas women tend to be better at hair dressing and such.
Chances are if they did ms woulda banned them too. Once again its just a bunch of whiny *****s kicking up alot of fuss because their "human rights" are being infringed (which by the way is eventually going to get us all killed/turn the planet into a wasteland (before global warming etc))
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FOl2TY8
The Athiest Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.03.06 22:42:00 -
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Originally by: ebonyivory
Haha praying thats rich i hate religous people almost asmuch as i hate whiny pussies like you
Gays are equal you pillock stop conjuring up demons because you feel like you arent heard about enough
You're right gays are equal, just not under the law(US). For someone who hates religious people so much you sure do project some puritanical values. ---------- This post brought to you by the worst PVP'er in Eve |
ebonyivory
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Posted - 2009.03.06 22:47:00 -
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Originally by: Merin Ryskin
Originally by: ebonyivory Its not shoved down their throats on purpose though is it. Least not im most cases
Whether it's deliberate or not doesn't matter, what matters is the end result.
Quote: And you still dont here of straight pride week. I mean the way they go about it is entirely pathetic. They want people to leave them alone and accept them for who they are yet they make a dam fuss about being noticed dont they....
You know why? Because "straight pride week" is 51 weeks a year.
As for being accepted, yes, they want to be accepted, not just ignored by a society that refuses to really admit that such horrible sinners even exist. Being pushed away from the rest of society is not the same as being left alone and accepted.
As for you, Tractus Vesica, you are still a ****ing idiot.
Your use of "unnatural" is pure bull****. "Natural", last time I checked, has not been redefined to mean "those things that I find acceptable". Homosexuality is just as natural as heterosexuality, like it or not.
Your references to "purpose" are even more bull****. Not only have beneficial purposes been proposed (hint: your genes are carried by more than just your direct offspring), but your whole argument is nonsense. Even if we grant the assumption that homosexuality is a non-productive genetic "mistake", so are quite a few other things. For example, I have the non-productive mistake of poor vision, and for 99% of human history, that fact would have been a serious threat to my chances of reproduction (can't reproduce if you're dead, after all). Do we say that I have a choice to need glasses? Hell no. Lack of purpose =/= choice.
And not only are your arguments about choice pure bull****, but they demonstrate that you are even more of a ****ing idiot than I originally thought. I would lecture you on the differences between feeling attraction and acting on attraction, or direct you to the scientific research on the subject, or any of a few other approaches, but I have a very simple one instead: I'll just repeat the question you've dodged once already:
Tractus Vesica, when, exactly, did you choose to be straight? Please describe your process of considering all possible options equally, and then settling on your current preferences (in gender/appearance/personality) for rational reasons.
When you finally admit that you can not do this (because you never made a conscious choice), consider this: your preferences, as you just saw, are (at least in large part) determined by factors outside of your conscious control. You do have a "choice" about how to act on them, in the sense that you could deny your attraction to other men, force yourself into an unhappy marriage with a woman (but hey, Jesus loves the fact that you only have sex once a year and only to have kids), and then end up trolling airport bathrooms for anonymous sex with republican senators. But do you really consider this a "choice"?
Arg fugging wall o texts everywhere
Last time i checked you dont see people shouting out about heterosexual pride though do you...sure youl talk about it with other straight people but other than that theres actually no disturbance...whereas the gays must bring out the drums and make a huge fuss....
Where are you coming up with this ****? gays arent ignored ill still talk to one if they talk to me (and i dont hate them for other reasons ofc). They arent pushed away either they are for all intensive purposes equal.
I get what tractus is trying to say but i think his wording is as **** as hell. Its natural but its not how nature "intended" as such. Just another mutation in the long list. Before you say no its not nature wanted it that way you can fck right off. Natures main goal is to procreate otherwise it is doing it wrong.
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ebonyivory
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Posted - 2009.03.06 22:56:00 -
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Originally by: FOl2TY8
Originally by: ebonyivory
Haha praying thats rich i hate religous people almost asmuch as i hate whiny pussies like you
Gays are equal you pillock stop conjuring up demons because you feel like you arent heard about enough
You're right gays are equal, just not under the law(US). For someone who hates religious people so much you sure do project some puritanical values.
Well atleast they got something right i suppose >.>
Perhaps you should sort out your governemtn first m'kay and while your at it close down all your fast food places and kill 99% of america and save us all the trouble of dealing with you ever again
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FOl2TY8
The Athiest Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.03.06 23:02:00 -
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Edited by: FOl2TY8 on 06/03/2009 23:02:37
Originally by: ebonyivory
Well atleast they got something right i suppose >.>
Perhaps you should sort out your governemtn first m'kay and while your at it close down all your fast food places and kill 99% of america and save us all the trouble of dealing with you ever again
Wow you are one bitter SOB man. You should come to America, have a burger and get laid. It might do you some good. ---------- This post brought to you by the worst PVP'er in Eve |
ebonyivory
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Posted - 2009.03.06 23:08:00 -
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Originally by: FOl2TY8 Edited by: FOl2TY8 on 06/03/2009 23:02:37
Originally by: ebonyivory
Well atleast they got something right i suppose >.>
Perhaps you should sort out your governemtn first m'kay and while your at it close down all your fast food places and kill 99% of america and save us all the trouble of dealing with you ever again
Wow you are one bitter SOB man. You should come to America, have a burger and get laid. It might do you some good.
No i just hate americans (justified) hate religous people (incredibly justified) and i hate fat people (also justified)
so you want me to come to america and eat a burger (and get fat) and then get laid by some super fat "chick" ....well if thats your idea of a good time ill leave that to you...
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Atomos Darksun
Damage Incorporated.
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Posted - 2009.03.06 23:12:00 -
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How do you know what's natural? How do you know what "nature" intended? Egotistical much?
Oh, and seeing homosexuality as "sick" definitely counts as discrimination. Don't even start on UK vs US. Don't even start to lie about how much the UK is better, because there's a lot more people I trust on these forums than you.
The UK can also stop lying to itself anytime now about still being a world superpower.
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2009.03.06 23:25:00 -
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Edited by: Merin Ryskin on 06/03/2009 23:25:47
Originally by: ebonyivory Arg fugging wall o texts everywhere
Hint: you're illiterate and a moron, if you actually read the post you quoted, you would have noticed that most of it was aimed at someone else. But to be nice, I'll respect your pathetic attention span and just quote the most offensive of your bull****.
Originally by: ebonyivory They arent less than equal citizens you pillock (im bringing it back) gays have the same oppurtunities as males and in some places more oppurtunities (fashion and such) it balances out in the end its the same with every divide such as between boys and girls...for example men tend to be better at manual labour whereas women tend to be better at hair dressing and such.
Awesome, another bull**** stereotype. Here's a hint, moron, gay =/= "good at fashion".
Quote: Last time i checked you dont see people shouting out about heterosexual pride though do you...sure youl talk about it with other straight people but other than that theres actually no disturbance...whereas the gays must bring out the drums and make a huge fuss....
No, it's just all over our culture, who could possibly see it? You'd have to be completely blind (or willfully ignorant) to miss the fact that the 24/7 message is that the "correct" relationship is between one man and one woman, and anything else is either ignored or dismissed as disgusting sin.
Quote: Where are you coming up with this ****? gays arent ignored ill still talk to one if they talk to me (and i dont hate them for other reasons ofc). They arent pushed away either they are for all intensive purposes equal.
Where do you get this painfully stupid idea that "I'll still talk to one" means they aren't being ignored? Have you talked to any of them about how they feel about being pushed away from society? I'm going to bet you haven't.
Quote: I get what tractus is trying to say but i think his wording is as **** as hell. Its natural but its not how nature "intended" as such. Just another mutation in the long list. Before you say no its not nature wanted it that way you can fck right off. Natures main goal is to procreate otherwise it is doing it wrong.
Sorry, but you're just as ignorant of biology as you are about sexuality and society. Even ignoring human cultural evolution and looking only at the strict genetic side, you're still an idiot. Natural selection is about copying genes, not producing offspring, offspring are just the most direct means to that end. However, your biological relatives also contain a large percentage of your genes, enough that there are many well-documented examples of behaviors (in non-human animals) that sacrifice the best interest of the organism itself or its direct offspring in favor of improving the survival chances of its close relatives. While it's still speculation at this point, there is a very real chance that homosexuality is no different, and provides benefits to close relatives (whether homosexuality provides a direct benefit itself, or simply occurs as a side effect of some other beneficial feature). -----------
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ebonyivory
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Posted - 2009.03.06 23:36:00 -
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Originally by: Atomos Darksun How do you know what's natural? How do you know what "nature" intended? Egotistical much?
Oh, and seeing homosexuality as "sick" definitely counts as discrimination. Don't even start on UK vs US. Don't even start to lie about how much the UK is better, because there's a lot more people I trust on these forums than you.
The UK can also stop lying to itself anytime now about still being a world superpower.
Lol you absoloute idiot. Nature is designed to survive and reproduce otherwise life itself would be pointless (and we wouldnt be here). You cant naturally reproduce if your gay now can you? So yeah looks like im right.
Thinking about gay sex makes me feel sick (a little not like actually throwing up) just as i see some wierd type of fetishes as sick. Im sure you do to but dont admit it if it means you have to come down from your high horse.
Ok i wont start to lie about how the uk is better ill actually list some true facts:
1.We are thinner on average (seriousely child obesity wtf 2.The rest of the world doesnt hate us (cept france but then thats france who cares) 3.We are on the shortlist of empire holders (in the past obviousely) 4.Plz post k/d ratio in iraq plz 5.As soon as there are global nuclear defenses america is screwed 6.You basically named like 50% of your cities after ours 7.Your using our language 8.We have nukes we have a good (ish) army and we arent stupidly over****y (so yeah were miles above the u.s.a then)
America isnt a superpower anymore these days anyway....alls youve done for the past 50 years is fail at stopping communism and generally getting pwned in every military conflict you get involved in.
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ebonyivory
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Posted - 2009.03.06 23:48:00 -
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Originally by: Merin Ryskin Edited by: Merin Ryskin on 06/03/2009 23:25:47
Quote: Where are you coming up with this ****? gays arent ignored ill still talk to one if they talk to me (and i dont hate them for other reasons ofc). They arent pushed away either they are for all intensive purposes equal.
Quote: I get what tractus is trying to say but i think his wording is as **** as hell. Its natural but its not how nature "intended" as such. Just another mutation in the long list. Before you say no its not nature wanted it that way you can fck right off. Natures main goal is to procreate otherwise it is doing it wrong.
Sorry, but you're just as ignorant of biology as you are about sexuality and society. Even ignoring human cultural evolution and looking only at the strict genetic side, you're still an idiot. Natural selection is about copying genes, not producing offspring, offspring are just the most direct means to that end. However, your biological relatives also contain a large percentage of your genes, enough that there are many well-documented examples of behaviors (in non-human animals) that sacrifice the best interest of the organism itself or its direct offspring in favor of improving the survival chances of its close relatives. While it's still speculation at this point, there is a very real chance that homosexuality is no different, and provides benefits to close relatives (whether homosexuality provides a direct benefit itself, or simply occurs as a side effect of some other beneficial feature).
Wow so what your saying is:
1.when i said wall of texts everywhere you immediately presumed i was talking specifically about you and not the wall of text i just typed out. 2.This is the internet i can be as illerate as i want for all i care u nublet. 3.i know it was aimed at someone else. Doesnt stop me from pointing out how stupid you are now does it? 4.Where did i say that they were all good at fashion. I said that they were more likely to go into a career in fashion than straight men (which is true) so yeah...shut it. 5.Ofc its everywhere its the whole fckin point of living you utter idiot. What if it is ignored why should you care? There are children starving in africa that are basically ignored there are terrible war crimes commited over the world and yet i dont see you shedding a tear over them. 6. Ofcourse i havent talked to them about that because they arent i can off the top of my head know 3 gay people i come into regularish contact with i dont see them whining about it ever. You know why? Because people like you take pleasure in conjuring up random dilemas with no actual basis on anything. 7.Haha oh god you are so funny. Inside you right now is quite alot of something known as DNA. Youve probably heard about it (you know when your not busy being reatrded). Dna is quite selfish. Alls DNA wants to do is continue the existance of more DNA. It cant do that if after 80 or so years all of its creations die when the bag of flesh it has created decomposes. So it comes up with a plan. I know ill make more bags of flesh the Dna says. So it does and this is known as reproduction (on a human level). Why would DNA possibly not want to continue its "species" you do realise that if everyone was gay then we wouldnt exist? Natures plan is to basically continue existance. If you happen to come up with better ways of continueing your existance then woop de doo all the better.
Its not a bad thing to admit that being gay is simply a mutation of being heterosexual. There are millions if not billions of other mutations that are much much worse. but the fact is it was an unintended mutation (unless Dna was particularily stupid and wanted to die).
So there a very simplified biology lesson. Now suck it up and gtfo
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Jago Kain
Amarr Pan Galactic Traders
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Posted - 2009.03.06 23:58:00 -
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Originally by: ebonyivory America isnt a superpower anymore these days anyway....alls youve done for the past 50 years is fail at stopping communism and generally getting pwned in every military conflict you get involved in.
That's not true. There was, erm.... you know... begins with a K i think... or not possibly, and ummm..... don't tell me, I'll get it in a minuite. Feck! Had it for a second there. Nope... mind's gone blank.
OOOOOooooh! I know..... Grenada. Does that count?
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FOl2TY8
The Athiest Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.03.07 00:04:00 -
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Originally by: ebonyivory
No i just hate americans (justified) hate religous people (incredibly justified) and i hate fat people (also justified)
so you want me to come to america and eat a burger (and get fat) and then get laid by some super fat "chick" ....well if thats your idea of a good time ill leave that to you...
All I want to know is where can I get one of these insta-fat burgers. I would eat like 30 of them right before I fist your mom with my burger engorged man paw. ---------- This post brought to you by the worst PVP'er in Eve |
ebonyivory
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Posted - 2009.03.07 00:13:00 -
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Originally by: FOl2TY8
Originally by: ebonyivory
No i just hate americans (justified) hate religous people (incredibly justified) and i hate fat people (also justified)
so you want me to come to america and eat a burger (and get fat) and then get laid by some super fat "chick" ....well if thats your idea of a good time ill leave that to you...
All I want to know is where can I get one of these insta-fat burgers. I would eat like 30 of them right before I fist your mom with my burger engorged man paw.
She said shes leaving you because you have a tiny ***** and you cry everytime you have flashbacks to being ****d by your dad. Also its hardly my problem that you americans are too stupid to not gorge yourself on food.
Also gz on korea you really turned the tide and united korea under 1 flag...oh wai
How did vietnam go anyway
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FOl2TY8
The Athiest Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.03.07 00:19:00 -
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Edited by: FOl2TY8 on 07/03/2009 00:18:58
Originally by: ebonyivory
She said shes leaving you because you have a tiny ***** and you cry everytime you have flashbacks to being ****d by your dad. Also its hardly my problem that you americans are too stupid to not gorge yourself on food.
Also gz on korea you really turned the tide and united korea under 1 flag...oh wai
How did vietnam go anyway
How the hell am I supposed to know? You guys have Amy Winehouse and bad teeth. That trumps everything. ---------- This post brought to you by the worst PVP'er in Eve |
ebonyivory
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Posted - 2009.03.07 00:20:00 -
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Originally by: FOl2TY8 Edited by: FOl2TY8 on 07/03/2009 00:18:58
Originally by: ebonyivory
She said shes leaving you because you have a tiny ***** and you cry everytime you have flashbacks to being ****d by your dad. Also its hardly my problem that you americans are too stupid to not gorge yourself on food.
Also gz on korea you really turned the tide and united korea under 1 flag...oh wai
How did vietnam go anyway
How the hell am I supposed to know? You guys have Amy Winehouse and bad teeth. That trumps everything.
Nah we got dentists over here our teeths be fine
Also you have tom cruise and george lucas.....and EA so no you lose
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FOl2TY8
The Athiest Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.03.07 00:28:00 -
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Originally by: ebonyivory
Also you have tom cruise and george lucas.....and EA so no you lose
You're out of your goddamned mind man. EA as in Electronic Arts?
The proverbial pudding...
This thread is now about defending EA because I don't hate the Brits, idiots, gays, Microsoft's EULA or my child molesting father. ---------- This post brought to you by the worst PVP'er in Eve |
Atomos Darksun
Damage Incorporated.
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Posted - 2009.03.07 00:29:00 -
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Originally by: ebonyivory
7.Your using our language
The irony in this statement amuses me.
Okay, chav
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Slade Trillgon
Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.03.07 01:00:00 -
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Originally by: ebonyivory
Nature is designed to survive and reproduce otherwise life itself would be pointless (and we wouldnt be here). You cant naturally reproduce if your gay now can you? So yeah looks like im right.
The thing is that science proves you wrong. If you would care to take a look at the sources I presented earlier you may find some things out.
Unless you can take the time to read those, find reffered sources that supports your claims, and form anargument, then you are just full of hot air.
Slade
Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker
Please go sit in the corner, and dont forget to don the shame-on-you-hat!
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FOl2TY8
The Athiest Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.03.07 01:07:00 -
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Originally by: Slade Trillgon
The thing is that science proves you wrong. If you would care to take a look at the sources I presented earlier you may find some things out.
Unless you can take the time to read those, find reffered sources that supports your claims, and form anargument, then you are just full of hot air.
Slade
But Slade science doesn't account for my own personal opinion so I will sit here and F5 this thread on my goo encrusted keyboard until you agree with me. ---------- This post brought to you by the worst PVP'er in Eve |
Jago Kain
Amarr Pan Galactic Traders
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Posted - 2009.03.07 01:10:00 -
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It's gonna be a long night.
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FOl2TY8
The Athiest Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.03.07 01:15:00 -
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Originally by: Jago Kain It's gonna be a long night.
F5!!!!! ---------- This post brought to you by the worst PVP'er in Eve |
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CCP Mitnal
C C P CCP
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Posted - 2009.03.07 02:18:00 -
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Locked.
Thread has run its course and descended into a flame fest.
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