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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.02.26 06:09:00 -
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If you allow OLD people with attributes below 5 to KEEP them below 5 on a respec, you should also allow NEW people to set those attributes just as low.
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Kalintos Tyl
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.02.26 06:12:00 -
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well then majority achura will scream agian 60D GTC - shattared link |
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.02.26 06:14:00 -
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You mean, all OLD Achura will be happy they get to KEEP 3 charisma, while EVERYBODY ELSE (including all new players from M10 onwards) will cry bloody murder.
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Kalintos Tyl
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.02.26 06:29:00 -
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my reasearch/trading alt will be happy to keep 3 will and 4 perc and having max int and mem ;] 60D GTC - shattared link |
Back Again
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.02.26 06:36:00 -
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I have 3 accounts, this Civire, one Deteis and one Achura.
All 3 Chars are from 2006, the achura (female, of course) is the newest one. Yeah, when I created her was exactly cuz that 3 charisma base, was not that I doubt I would pay that 3rd account and keep her training all these years.
Maybe, one day, the Devs will create some awesome skills that have charisma as primary, who knows? I'm more happy with my 2 older Chars being able to get rid of high charisma and putting that extra points on something more useful than getting her a little more specialized.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2009.02.26 07:11:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T If you allow OLD people with attributes below 5 to KEEP them below 5 on a respec, you should also allow NEW people to set those attributes just as low.
you can't, new people have to put that to 5.
anyways... what the hell happen to the 5 points we would put in ourself? I'm cunfused... :(
are new players getting 5 less points? I made a new characters and I'm pretty sure they are removing 5 points form new players.
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Bellum Eternus
Gallente Death of Virtue
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Posted - 2009.02.26 07:19:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T If you allow OLD people with attributes below 5 to KEEP them below 5 on a respec, you should also allow NEW people to set those attributes just as low.
Nah. If only to **** off all the Achura r3tards.
Bellum Eternus Inveniam viam aut faciam.
Death of Virtue is Recruiting
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.02.26 07:20:00 -
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Originally by: MotherMoon anyways... what the hell happen to the 5 points we would put in ourself? I'm cunfused... :(
Everybody starts with an uniformized 8/8/8/8/7cha in M10.
Quote: are new players getting 5 less points?
No, the total base points are still 39.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.02.26 07:25:00 -
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Originally by: Bellum Eternus
Originally by: Akita T If you allow OLD people with attributes below 5 to KEEP them below 5 on a respec, you should also allow NEW people to set those attributes just as low.
Nah. If only to **** off all the Achura r3tards.
I'm confused as to what you're trying to say.
Are you saying we SHOULD allow everybody to get their attributes down to 3 ? Now, that WOULD upset the Achuras, but not that much since they don't actually lose anything.
Or are you saying the respec should remain as it is now, with Achuras allowed to keep 3 charisma but nobody else (especially not the new players past M10) able to get Charisma down to 3 ? I fail to see how that would annoy Achuras.
Maybe you saying we SHOULDN'T allow below-5 respecs at all, so that Achuras would have to rise Cha to 5 before they can respec ? You know, back how the first respec version was ? Well, it still doesn't annoy Achuras (they just don't respec if they don't want to), but it annoys everybody else.
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Rhohan
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.02.26 07:32:00 -
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They did it to see who would cry over spilt milk.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2009.02.26 08:41:00 -
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Edited by: MotherMoon on 26/02/2009 08:41:42
Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Bellum Eternus
Originally by: Akita T If you allow OLD people with attributes below 5 to KEEP them below 5 on a respec, you should also allow NEW people to set those attributes just as low.
Nah. If only to **** off all the Achura r3tards.
I'm confused as to what you're trying to say.
Are you saying we SHOULD allow everybody to get their attributes down to 3 ? Now, that WOULD upset the Achuras, but not that much since they don't actually lose anything.
Or are you saying the respec should remain as it is now, with Achuras allowed to keep 3 charisma but nobody else (especially not the new players past M10) able to get Charisma down to 3 ? I fail to see how that would annoy Achuras.
Maybe you saying we SHOULDN'T allow below-5 respecs at all, so that Achuras would have to rise Cha to 5 before they can respec ? You know, back how the first respec version was ? Well, it still doesn't annoy Achuras (they just don't respec if they don't want to), but it annoys everybody else.
So which one is it ?
are you ignoring me or what?
YOU CAN'T REPEC THEM.
unless something changed you are not allowed to respec these characters.
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Kytanos Termek
Caldari Darkstorm Command Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2009.02.26 08:43:00 -
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It's a good thing for most. Dont complain. Consider it a small reward for being a vet. Ive played eve for 3 years. and im glad i have recognition for that now in some small way.
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Rhohan
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.02.26 09:00:00 -
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Originally by: MotherMoon
are you ignoring me or what?
YOU CAN'T REPEC THEM.
unless something changed you are not allowed to respec these characters.
I've been able to respec my Super Achura Alt for the last several Sisi builds. Actually, I've always been able to, except at one point I think it was broke for everyone.
Its nice to be able to leap tall buildings, and bump cap ships with a simple thought, from 219.47 km away. Why would you want to nerf the Achura?
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2009.02.26 09:07:00 -
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Originally by: Rhohan
Originally by: MotherMoon
are you ignoring me or what?
YOU CAN'T REPEC THEM.
unless something changed you are not allowed to respec these characters.
I've been able to respec my Super Achura Alt for the last several Sisi builds. Actually, I've always been able to, except at one point I think it was broke for everyone.
Its nice to be able to leap tall buildings, and bump cap ships with a simple thought, from 219.47 km away. Why would you want to nerf the Achura?
maybe it's bugged now then?
wierd nvm, carry on.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.02.26 09:30:00 -
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Originally by: MotherMoon are you ignoring me or what? YOU CAN'T REPEC THEM. unless something changed you are not allowed to respec these characters.
That's precisely what I'm saying, that respeccing was allegedly changed on one of the few recent SiSi updates to ALLOW you to respec while keeping any of the existing sub-5 attributes below 5.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2009.02.26 09:58:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: MotherMoon are you ignoring me or what? YOU CAN'T REPEC THEM. unless something changed you are not allowed to respec these characters.
That's precisely what I'm saying, that respeccing was allegedly changed on one of the few recent SiSi updates to ALLOW you to respec while keeping any of the existing sub-5 attributes below 5.
rgr I was mislead.
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Jettisoned Can
THE INTERNET. Goodfellas.
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Posted - 2009.02.26 09:59:00 -
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As long as they don't force Achura and Amarr Amarrs to respec, I'm happy with what I've got. (3 cha/7/7/7/15 willpower Amarr Amarr, and 3 cha/various other stats Achura)
And why is it that everyone only complains about Achura? Amarr Amarr have always been able to get <3 cha. (and >15 willpower too) _________________________ Did you really not have enough room for me? I'm only 1m. |
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.02.26 11:13:00 -
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Hey, I'm not complaining for myself... I'm a 9/9/9/9/3cha Achura ffs, so the CURRENT respec version is actually quite damned awesome for me. I'm complaining for the people that start past M10, that have 8/8/8/8/7cha as uniform starter attributes, and will NEVER be able to pick a base-3-charisma char (or below-5-anything, for that matter). I could, for instance, respec to 15/11/5/5/3cha on any attribute pair that matters (screw charisma, I don't want mindlinks anyway on my char, you have alts for that) instead of 15/9/5/5/5 like most others could
Great for me, sucks and unfair for them. I very much hate having an unfair advantage... but I *WILL* take that unfair advantage if offered, no matter how much I hate having it.
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Cadde
Gallente Gene Works AKA-AHN KINGDOM
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Posted - 2009.02.26 20:12:00 -
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BUMPAGE, i would like to know as well. Or i am going to scrap all the needless alts i have and create achuras on all my accounts just so i have options. Are you even aware of this CCP?
Please just make a reply saying you are.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.02.26 22:54:00 -
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Yeah, the nasty thing is we don't even know whether it's a bug or a feature.
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Imertu Solientai
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Posted - 2009.02.26 23:41:00 -
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Tbh I'd like to see all achura have 1 point knocked off each of their 2 highest attributes and these put into charisma. The 5 limit is for a good reason: to prevent people from completely min/maxing their characters.
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Cadde
Gallente Gene Works AKA-AHN KINGDOM
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Posted - 2009.02.27 08:40:00 -
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Bump again, still waiting for an official reply.
My opinions belong to me, you can't have them!
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Carniflex
Caldari Fallout Research Fallout Project
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Posted - 2009.02.27 09:14:00 -
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I would love to set my cha to 3. Or even 0 ;) - I do have learning skills to give me some cha afterall.
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Flinchey
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.02.27 09:39:00 -
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CCP
be balanced
screw the whiney achuras etc, with their 3 attribs, and bring them up to 5 like everyone else, just like new players (REMEMBER: you're doing this attribute thing to make the game fairer to new players. REMEMBER)
or allow all player to <5 their attributes
one or the other CCP.
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CCP Chiliad
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Posted - 2009.02.27 11:44:00 -
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Neural Remap requirement of attribute minimum of 5 is intended. The system will not allow old characters to retain attributes below 5 after a remap.
Sorry if the bug on SiSi has caused confusion.
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Reatu Krentor
Minmatar Duragon Pioneer Group GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.27 12:01:00 -
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CCP could be bastards and remove the attribute boosting learning skills and for all pre-M10 character to get them back they have to go through the remapping process -- stuff -- |
ITTigerClawIK
Amarr Galactic Rangers Galactic-Rangers
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Posted - 2009.02.27 12:01:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Chiliad Neural Remap requirement of attribute minimum of 5 is intended. The system will not allow old characters to retain attributes below 5 after a remap.
Sorry if the bug on SiSi has caused confusion.
i really dont see any point to this minimum of 5 imho i can see a point to a minimum of 1 and not removing the attribute compleatly but maybe i didnt give my char +5 charisma for a reason >_>
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Wadaya
Trailerpark Industries
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Posted - 2009.02.27 12:17:00 -
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What is the point of everyone starting with the same stats? That's half the fun of designing a new char and picking the race/bloodline/school that suits your goals. I guess I'm glad my stats as an Achura are fine, although training tycoon 5 on base 3 charisma was a chore, it wasn't the end of the world.
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Yakia TovilToba
Halliburton Inc.
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Posted - 2009.02.27 12:25:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Chiliad Neural Remap requirement of attribute minimum of 5 is intended. The system will not allow old characters to retain attributes below 5 after a remap.
Sorry if the bug on SiSi has caused confusion.
Woooot ? And i was already looking forward to train combat skills with my Perception 33 / Willpower 28 If you force us to be more charismatic, can we have a face revamp in exchange ?
P.S. Damn you Aktia T, why couldn't you just kept silence ? Aren't you Achura yourself ? Dam traitor !
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Mohenna
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Posted - 2009.02.27 13:28:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Chiliad Neural Remap requirement of attribute minimum of 5 is intended.
Why would I want charisma? I am a lab rat. For minmaxing AND for roleplaying!
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