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Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2009.03.02 17:53:00 - [1] So, now that everybody will start off with 8/8/8/8/7cha, and attribute respec makes base attributes of different bloodlines and races pointless in "getting intel on what they have trained" (as if they were not almost pointless already), there goes the LAST reason to NOT allow us to also change the bloodline, or even the race of our character portrait. So... will we be allowed to have a face change that's no longer "must be same gender and bloodline/race" but instead only "must be same gender and race" or even just "must be same gender" ? Or, heck, why not allow us to change gender too ? I mean... you get 10$ per change anyway, and I bet many would like to make a change that's impossible right now (especially people that bought their chars with ISK, and ISK probably with GTC/PLEX), so it's a win-win situation... _ Create a character \|\| Fit a ship \|\| Get some ISK

Chribba Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire	Posted - 2009.03.02 19:09:00 - [2] I for one would pay $10 and submit my custom forum portrait for the portrait server Secure 3rd party service

Ginako	Posted - 2009.03.02 19:17:00 - [3] I for one would be willing to pay $10 to switch over to a Male Portrait. When I made my Achura I was stuck with either Achura Female Clone #14231 or Achura Ugly Male Clone #23123 -------------- Flying Minmatar is like strapping yourself to an office chair and firing Uzi's as you roll down a flight of stairs
Ecnav Gallente Lone Star Joint Venture Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.03.02 19:21:00 - [4] You Achura should be stuck with your ugly portraits tbh (\(\ <br> (^_^)") <br> (_(")(") <br>
Rawr Cristina Caldari Naqam Exalted.	Posted - 2009.03.02 19:24:00 - [5] Originally by: Ecnav You Achura should be stuck with your ugly portraits tbh - Infectious -
Barkaial Starfinder Minmatar The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc. Balance of Judgment	Posted - 2009.03.02 19:25:00 - [6] You chose your bloodline and your face. You can still try to make your face less ugly in the same bloodline, so please... stop.
Wet Ferret	Posted - 2009.03.02 19:25:00 - [7] Originally by: Ecnav You Achura should be stuck with your ugly portraits tbh Harsh but true But, yeah. These forums seriously need some indicator that the post has ended and the sig has started.
Gneeznow North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.03.02 19:28:00 - [8] I would give 10 bux not to look like a fat steven segal anymore
Shionoya Risa The Xenodus Initiative. Overclockers Podpilot Services	Posted - 2009.03.02 19:28:00 - [9] Edited by: Shionoya Risa on 02/03/2009 19:30:55 I'd pay it for a race change. I want to be pretty again dammit! Originally by: Gneeznow I would give 10 bux not to look like a fat steven segal anymore In all the years I've seen your picture, I have never noticed that! -----

CCP Atropos C C P	Posted - 2009.03.02 19:38:00 - [10] That's not quite how it works. As you define the race, bloodline, career and specialisation various graphical options become available to you, not just those you'd associate with in game benefits such as skills and attributes. Each contributes a part of the graphical options you can alter at the end, and that framework hasn't been revised in Apocrypha. Because of this, switching bloodlines has other knock on effects that need to be accounted for. It's not on the cards currently, but then who knows what's just around the corner... Software Engineer CCP Engineering Services

Irida Mershkov Gallente Noir.	Posted - 2009.03.02 19:43:00 - [11] Originally by: Ecnav You Achura should be stuck with your ugly portraits tbh
Shionoya Risa The Xenodus Initiative. Overclockers Podpilot Services	Posted - 2009.03.02 19:45:00 - [12] Originally by: CCP Atropos That's not quite how it works. As you define the race, bloodline, career and specialisation various graphical options become available to you, not just those you'd associate with in game benefits such as skills and attributes. Can't you just mash in new values into the DB, and voila? If you want, feel free to pay me to do that all day, You'd only need to match what I get paid already. -----
Picard Facepalm Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2009.03.02 20:27:00 - [13] Originally by: Ecnav You Achura should be stuck with your ugly portraits tbh
Pottsey Enheduanni Foundation	Posted - 2009.03.02 20:49:00 - [14] Didn't CCP say we would have to re do our character portrait for Wis? ______ How to Passive Shield Tank
ArmyOfMe The Athiest Syndicate	Posted - 2009.03.02 20:50:00 - [15] Originally by: Ecnav You Achura should be stuck with your ugly portraits tbh ^^this. finally a price to pay for you guys choosing the quick and easy way
Ms Delerium	Posted - 2009.03.02 20:52:00 - [16] I wonder, will they upgrade the graphics some day? (more clothes, more defined faces, new accesoires, etc.) If yes, I think we all should be able to change our ones, so older players are not in disadvantage. thanks :)
Asestorian Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2009.03.02 20:55:00 - [17] Originally by: Ms Delerium I wonder, will they upgrade the graphics some day? (more clothes, more defined faces, new accesoires, etc.) If yes, I think we all should be able to change our ones, so older players are not in disadvantage. thanks :) Ambulation will force us to recreate our portraits using the new Ambulation character models. Anyway. I would personally quite like to become Amarr, but I doubt it would ever happen --- Originally by: CCP Atropos Destiny Balls
Bellum Eternus Gallente Death of Virtue	Posted - 2009.03.02 20:56:00 - [18] Originally by: Ecnav You Achura should be stuck with your ugly portraits tbh Bellum Eternus Inveniam viam aut faciam. Death of Virtue is Recruiting
Tiptop2008 Gallente Garoun Investment Bank	Posted - 2009.03.02 20:58:00 - [19] Originally by: Gneeznow I would give 10 bux not to look like a fat steven segal anymore So would steven segal
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2009.03.02 21:12:00 - [20] Originally by: CCP Atropos Each contributes a part of the graphical options you can alter at the end, and that framework hasn't been revised in Apocrypha. Because of this, switching bloodlines has other knock on effects that need to be accounted for. Ancestries seem completely pointless in Apocrypha... but... wait... since there are also no more career choices either in Apocrypha, could it be that you are maybe associating the starter school with the ancestry now, as opposed to picking a career ? Please, do name one OTHER thing ancestries still matter for, since the only difference was in base attributes to begin with, which no longer matters since they are all uniformized to 88887 in Apocrypha. Bloodlines only matter for the NPC corp you get stuck in when you leave a player corp... which, again, is kind of "meh". For all intents and purposes, you'd better just DROP the ancestry choice altogether and remove all mentions of it from the database, and have the player PICK a school... and have the "fallback" NPC school be chosen by the pilot from available choices. As for the skillset you start with, you're also reducing that to a minimum, and quite a bit of it is common across races, so not even race matters all that much anymore. But no, seriously, other than "NPC corp you belong to if not in a player corp", what else does ancestry and bloodline matter for in Apocrypha ? As for the character portrait swap you can do for 10$ now... all you'd need to do to "upgrade" it would be to REMOVE the check for "same gender and bloodline" from the swap and add the "copy bloodline/gender code from portrait donor" in it. _ Create a character \|\| Fit a ship \|\| Get some ISK
TraininVain	Posted - 2009.03.02 21:13:00 - [21] Originally by: Tiptop2008 Originally by: Gneeznow I would give 10 bux not to look like a fat steven segal anymore So would steven segal Wooh boy. You went there.
Gottii Minmatar Tribal Liberation Force	Posted - 2009.03.02 21:34:00 - [22] Originally by: Ecnav You Achura should be stuck with your ugly portraits tbh
Element 22 Gallente	Posted - 2009.03.02 21:44:00 - [23] Originally by: Ecnav You Achura should be stuck with your ugly portraits tbh Signatures are annoying...kinda like me.
Faife Federation of Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2009.03.02 22:25:00 - [24] they'll redo them when WiS comes out. i guess that will cover your twink shame.
Malthros Zenobia	Posted - 2009.03.02 22:28:00 - [25] This really isn't any different than asking for skill refunds because a FOTM ship got changed, in this case it's a FOTM(Y) bloodline. Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
Joss Sparq Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2009.03.02 23:24:00 - [26] Originally by: CCP Atropos It's not on the cards currently, but then who knows what's just around the corner... oooh, foreshadowing ...
Williamat Centaurus Gallente	Posted - 2009.03.02 23:48:00 - [27] Originally by: Ecnav You Achura should be stuck with your ugly portraits tbh
Aranis Lyautey	Posted - 2009.03.03 10:06:00 - [28] My Achura is teh hotness I can't wait till WIS so I can finally check out her ass
Maria Kalista	Posted - 2009.03.03 10:20:00 - [29] Originally by: Aranis Lyautey I can't wait till WIS so I can finally check out her ass I'm sorry but you are unable to target yourself. Originally by: AkRoYeR ...the beauty of EvE. You have to live on the edge all the time. If you don't stay frosty, you will die! Best game ever!
Tzar'rim	Posted - 2009.03.03 10:29:00 - [30] Originally by: Ecnav You Achura should be stuck with your ugly portraits tbh Yes, have the advantage, play min-max and pay the price. Self-proclaimed idiot
Trathen Minmatar	Posted - 2009.03.03 10:34:00 - [31] Don't pretend like you didn't see it coming. Choke on your Vanilla FotM slowly _
Tippia Raddick Explorations BlackWater.	Posted - 2009.03.03 10:37:00 - [32] Originally by: Tzar'rim Originally by: Ecnav You Achura should be stuck with your ugly portraits tbh Yes, have the advantage, play min-max and pay the price. Good thing us Achuras can min-max more than ever after this change… ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in =v=… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki
Liberator 1 Gallente Remnants of the Flame	Posted - 2009.03.03 10:48:00 - [33] I look like Adam Ant. ------------------------------------------- ôIf you are in a spaceship that is traveling at the speed of light, and you turn on the headlights, does anything happen?ö -------------------------
Artassaut Minmatar Oblivion Amalgamated	Posted - 2009.03.03 11:24:00 - [34] Originally by: Tippia Originally by: Tzar'rim Originally by: Ecnav You Achura should be stuck with your ugly portraits tbh Yes, have the advantage, play min-max and pay the price. Good thing us Achuras can min-max more than ever after this changeà Good thing you lose your base 3 charisma if you even try. --- The Gate: Lol, try targeting me in a fleet fight. The Station: No U.
Tippia Raddick Explorations BlackWater.	Posted - 2009.03.03 11:34:00 - [35] Originally by: Artassaut Originally by: Tippia Originally by: Tzar'rim Yes, have the advantage, play min-max and pay the price. Good thing us Achuras can min-max more than ever after this change… Good thing you lose your base 3 charisma if you even try. Good thing it's irrelevant if you min-max. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in =v=… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki
Rogue Lilly Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2009.03.24 21:23:00 - [36] So where does it say the character portrait swap must be the same race and gender? I bought GTC then sold them to get the isk to trade for this character so I could skip all the tedious learning skills. Yes I know it's cheap and all of you who had to train your learning skills earned it and blah blah blah. what can I say, I wanted to jump in without waiting through 4 months of training skills who's only purpose is to make it easier to train other skills. Regardless; I want to change my portrait to something I create instead of the one it came with (even though i've had her for over 2 months and still don't really have a portrait even in evemon) So i went to the character portrait swap screen and no mention of same bloodline and gender, I filled it all out to swap the portrait of the amarr I had made a while back myself and it seemed ok. I didn't complete because i wanted to make sure I wasn't going to give up $10 and have someone say later, "oops, we can't do that, thanks for the ten bucks." so where does it actually say the gender race must be the same, and has anyone tried swapping different gender/race portraits?
Captain Pompous Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It	Posted - 2009.03.24 22:18:00 - [37] Originally by: Rogue Lilly The main annoyance with this character portrait is everyone sees it and starts sending me messages about what they want to do to my "sweet arse." because it's an attractive female avatar. lol, punctuation fetishes are new to me Yes, my name is Pompous. Yes, this has been designed for maximum deliberate effect. Sweet disclaimer eh
Rogue Lilly Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2009.03.24 22:43:00 - [38] Originally by: Captain Pompous Originally by: Rogue Lilly The main annoyance with this character portrait is everyone sees it and starts sending me messages about what they want to do to my "sweet arse." because it's an attractive female avatar. lol, punctuation fetishes are new to me mmmmm sweet sweet exclamation mark, although i prefer the curves of a question mark. seriously though I'm not sure why I still don't diplay in the forums or on anything linked to my api (like evemon). But in game I get messages all the time from lonely boys in their basements.
Xindi Kraid Gene Works	Posted - 2009.03.24 22:44:00 - [39] Originally by: Maria Kalista Originally by: Aranis Lyautey I can't wait till WIS so I can finally check out her ass I'm sorry but you are unable to target yourself. WIN -Xindi Kraid: Delivering acerbic wit and scathing comments with just a dash of 'stab you in the eye'
Baron Agamemnon Caldari Holy Grail Construction	Posted - 2009.03.24 22:49:00 - [40] Edited by: Baron Agamemnon on 24/03/2009 22:50:35 Edited by: Baron Agamemnon on 24/03/2009 22:49:32 Originally by: Ecnav You Achura should be stuck with your ugly portraits tbh Thats rather silly statement tbh. I made my Char based soley on the descriptions and what I thoguh to be good in EVE. Achura provided a lot of nice stuff :). There are a lot of alts however due to 3 charisma ^^

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