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Aynen
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Posted - 2009.03.05 23:25:00 -
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In the Gallente-Caldari conflict there are 4 bottleneck systems seperating each Empire. Apart from the 22nd occupation this is where one empire ends and the other begins. 4 systems is a pretty good bottleneck, which makes me wonder why fight-seeking droves of Militia men aren't using it better. If the fleets that gather would always be in those systems, big fights would be garanteed, without long searching trips back and forth between OMS and Tama. Instead it'd be a simple trip between, say Deven and Magamanen. And you'd know that there's always enemies in those systems. Plexing and smaller fights all over FW space can ofcourse still occur just as easily, but if you're looking for a fight, you'll be sure you'll also do some finding.
So why aren't people doing this? Why are systems like Deven and Abune usually pretty empty? Why scatter all over the place in a disorganised fashion, hoping to find a cool fight at random? What's stopping us from getting more organised?
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Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2009.03.05 23:38:00 -
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Supplies are probably the main reason. Without knowing the specific layout, I am willing to bet that the current hotspots are closer to the shopping malls than the bottlenecks.
Another reason could be that bottlenecks today usually means regional gates .. if you have tried fighting on those you will never try again.
Decloak ranges vary greatly, largest distance I have seen was 75km .. that's a lot.
If you know what you are doing, you don't need the bottlenecks to get fights .. find a nice major site .. accidentally announce it in local somewhere and enjoy some lag-free small gang carnage.
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2009.03.06 02:48:00 -
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Repeat after me: FW players suck. Expecting good tactics from a bunch of hilariously incompetent carebears is pure wishful thinking.
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Raimo
Gallente
Wrath of Fenris
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Posted - 2009.03.06 05:42:00 -
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Edited by: Raimo on 06/03/2009 05:42:31
 Originally by: Merin Ryskin
Repeat after me: FW players suck. Expecting good tactics from a bunch of hilariously incompetent carebears is pure wishful thinking.
What a ree-tard. 
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Lord Zekk
Caldari
22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit
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Posted - 2009.03.06 06:25:00 -
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Merin a lot of the time you know what you're talking about, but in this instance you do not.
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Serapo Petrotestes
Caldari
22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit
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Posted - 2009.03.06 10:40:00 -
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Originally by: Merin Ryskin
Repeat after me: FW players suck. Expecting good tactics from a bunch of hilariously incompetent carebears is pure wishful thinking.
Well yes, I suck. But I bet I am having more fun than you.
And to the OP, in small gangs hunting for targets is part of the fun.
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Aynen
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Posted - 2009.03.06 11:02:00 -
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Originally by: Serapo Petrotestes
Originally by: Merin Ryskin
Repeat after me: FW players suck. Expecting good tactics from a bunch of hilariously incompetent carebears is pure wishful thinking.
Well yes, I suck. But I bet I am having more fun than you.
And to the OP, in small gangs hunting for targets is part of the fun.
The ability to hunt in small gangs outside of bottleneck systems (or inside them) wouldn't stop. Concentrated fighting would however improve the likeliness that you can find what you're looking for. |
paddytehpyro
Dark-Rising
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Posted - 2009.03.06 12:38:00 -
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The main thing is, with the bigger fleets, everyone avoids you. Many times have I been in a 30+ man fleet and had no more than a thorax kill in 3 hours. I dont know if this is the same for the caldari folks. My fellow militia members seem to be able to raise 30 man fleets in moments at the mere hint of an enemy blob but this hasnt always been the case. With nothing really to defend/attack there is no insentive to engage a big fleet if you're not sure of the outcome.
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Doctor Mabuse
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Posted - 2009.03.06 12:53:00 -
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Originally by: Serapo Petrotestes
Originally by: Merin Ryskin
Repeat after me: FW players suck. Expecting good tactics from a bunch of hilariously incompetent carebears is pure wishful thinking.
Well yes, I suck. But I bet I am having more fun than you.
And to the OP, in small gangs hunting for targets is part of the fun.
ah, see? You've hit the nail on the head there. Merin doesn't have fun, check out his posts, its all about 'efficiency', 'jobs' and 'tasks'.
The whole concept that people may fly different ships, use crazy set-ups or mad tactics purely for fun and entertainment is completely beyond him...
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Chris Fierce
Caldari
NoD Imperium
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Posted - 2009.03.06 13:01:00 -
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Its a major effort for us in the Caldari to get a 20/30 man fleet togather atm, maybe due to the lag or some other reason. Even when we do, the fleet is made up of 3 year old toons flying Merlins 
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Pimpertron
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Posted - 2009.03.06 16:50:00 -
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What use are large fleets in FW other than bunker busting?
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Yakia TovilToba
Halliburton Inc.
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Posted - 2009.03.06 19:14:00 -
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Originally by: Merin Ryskin
Repeat after me: FW players suck. Expecting good tactics from a bunch of hilariously incompetent carebears is pure wishful thinking.
Actually many of them are better than you in most respects.
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Elise E
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Posted - 2009.03.06 19:59:00 -
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Just ignore trolls like Merin who are all talk no action.
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chatgris
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Posted - 2009.03.06 20:52:00 -
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Edited by: chatgris on 06/03/2009 20:52:19
Originally by: Merin Ryskin
Repeat after me: FW players suck. Expecting good tactics from a bunch of hilariously incompetent carebears is pure wishful thinking.
I believe Merin is bitter due to this...
http://quafeultra.com/killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=109229
You were calling us pathetic in local, but what do you expect us to do if you bring a shiny ship like that into heyd, flashing red and all.
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Siigari Kitawa
Gallente
The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2009.03.06 20:53:00 -
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Edited by: Siigari Kitawa on 06/03/2009 20:57:37
Originally by: chatgris
Edited by: chatgris on 06/03/2009 20:52:19
Originally by: Merin Ryskin
Repeat after me: FW players suck. Expecting good tactics from a bunch of hilariously incompetent carebears is pure wishful thinking.
I believe Merin is bitter due to this...
http://quafeultra.com/killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=109229
You were calling us pathetic in local, but what do you expect us to do if you bring a shiny ship like that into heyd, flashing red and all.
LOL
If this could be the homepage of the internet, I would make it so.
(ps: just to **** you off, it was my corp that neuted your ass. You ever say anything to me about "cap" and "sustainable tank" again and I'll reference this killmail.)
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2009.03.06 21:57:00 -
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Edited by: Merin Ryskin on 06/03/2009 21:59:40
Originally by: Siigari Kitawa
Edited by: Siigari Kitawa on 06/03/2009 20:57:37
Originally by: chatgris
Edited by: chatgris on 06/03/2009 20:52:19
Originally by: Merin Ryskin
Repeat after me: FW players suck. Expecting good tactics from a bunch of hilariously incompetent carebears is pure wishful thinking.
I believe Merin is bitter due to this...
http://quafeultra.com/killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=109229
You were calling us pathetic in local, but what do you expect us to do if you bring a shiny ship like that into heyd, flashing red and all.
LOL
If this could be the homepage of the internet, I would make it so.
(ps: just to **** you off, it was my corp that neuted your ass. You ever say anything to me about "cap" and "sustainable tank" again and I'll reference this killmail.)
Yes, you're right, that has something to do with it, but I've had (and posted) that opinion of FW for quite a while now. That little fight was just the latest hilarious proof of just how much FW players suck. At 5v1 odds, the FW gang couldn't even break passive regen on a buffer tanked cruiser, and had to call in another 5-10 more ships (hilariously, half of their backup ended up 80km away, because they're too stupid to use the "warp to gang member" feature) just to slowly do enough dps to kill me. And despite all that, they still lost a Taranis because nobody could figure out that a frigate gang probably wants to kill the Warrior IIs.
Oh, and as for cap? I died with plenty of cap remaining, thanks to this wonderful thing called a cap booster. If your Pilgrim pilot was neuting me, he was doing a pretty pathetic job of it.
As for FW in general, I rest my case:
Its a major effort for us in the Caldari to get a 20/30 man fleet togather atm, maybe due to the lag or some other reason. Even when we do, the fleet is made up of 3 year old toons flying Merlins
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chatgris
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Posted - 2009.03.06 22:06:00 -
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Edited by: chatgris on 06/03/2009 22:08:28
Edited by: chatgris on 06/03/2009 22:07:05
Originally by: Merin Ryskin
Yes, you're right, that has something to do with it, but I've had (and posted) that opinion of FW for quite a while now. That little fight was just the latest hilarious proof of just how much FW players suck. At 5v1 odds, the FW gang couldn't even break passive regen on a buffer tanked cruiser, and had to call in another 5-10 more ships (hilariously, half of their backup ended up 80km away, because they're too stupid to use the "warp to gang member" feature) just to slowly do enough dps to kill me. And despite all that, they still lost a Taranis because nobody could figure out that a frigate gang probably wants to kill the Warrior IIs.
I'd just like to point out, we were two separate gangs. WOLFY had a fleet up, and had already tackled you, then my fleet just happenned to stumble across you and join in. No coordination involved :)
Originally by: Merin Ryskin
As for FW in general, I rest my case:
Its a major effort for us in the Caldari to get a 20/30 man fleet togather atm, maybe due to the lag or some other reason. Even when we do, the fleet is made up of 3 year old toons flying Merlins
That's the awesome part of it! You can fly frigates, and they are useful. And cheap. Cheap means we get to pew pew all day long. And when the other side also flies frigates, there is much fun to be had. Also, the one month noobs can actually compete with the 3 year old vets if we are all in frigates. (maybe not 1v1, but in a gang. A few more months and the noobs can have a reasonable chance against a vet 1v1 sp wise).
tbh, I've only been pvping for a month. I'm doing pretty well in fw. Is this cause the caldari really suck and I just suck less? I don't think so, but I really don't know. Do I care? Not really, it's hella fun :D
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2009.03.06 23:14:00 -
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Originally by: chatgris
I'd just like to point out, we were two separate gangs. WOLFY had a fleet up, and had already tackled you, then my fleet just happenned to stumble across you and join in. No coordination involved :)
And this is exactly the kind of thing I'm talking about. Why were you in two separate gangs? Even if for some reason you want to split your forces, you still keep them all in the same gang and on the same voice chat, just in case you need to bring them back together. FW is a disorganized mob, not a proper fleet.
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That's the awesome part of it! You can fly frigates, and they are useful. And cheap. Cheap means we get to pew pew all day long. And when the other side also flies frigates, there is much fun to be had. Also, the one month noobs can actually compete with the 3 year old vets if we are all in frigates. (maybe not 1v1, but in a gang. A few more months and the noobs can have a reasonable chance against a vet 1v1 sp wise).
And guess what happens when your frigate gang goes up against a proper fleet of equal numbers: it's a massacre. The only reason your blob of T1 frigates every kills anything is because the lack of motivation for skilled players to join FW means that you're fighting people who are equally incompetent.
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tbh, I've only been pvping for a month. I'm doing pretty well in fw. Is this cause the caldari really suck and I just suck less? I don't think so, but I really don't know. Do I care? Not really, it's hella fun :D
The Caldari do suck. If not for their hilarious incompetence at using the best fleet ships in the game, CCP would have had to run an emergency downtime "event" just to keep the Gallente from losing every single system and every single battle.
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chatgris
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Posted - 2009.03.06 23:53:00 -
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Edited by: chatgris on 06/03/2009 23:55:37
Originally by: Merin Ryskin
Originally by: chatgris
I'd just like to point out, we were two separate gangs. WOLFY had a fleet up, and had already tackled you, then my fleet just happenned to stumble across you and join in. No coordination involved :)
And this is exactly the kind of thing I'm talking about. Why were you in two separate gangs? Even if for some reason you want to split your forces, you still keep them all in the same gang and on the same voice chat, just in case you need to bring them back together. FW is a disorganized mob, not a proper fleet.
A lot of reasons
Fun - Small gang warfare!
Spies, a lot of corps prefer flying with those they trust
When you mentioned getting together a fleet of 20/30 people, that is considered a blob in fw. In fact, that would probably lead to mass desyncs and lots of posts on the forums whining about lag.
Plexes - plexes spawn across the systems, some of them as short as ten minutes with specific ship size restrictions. Fw is setup to discourage the blob, since lots of small gangs can accomplish more than one big gang.
I agree though, it is a disorganized mob. More correctly, I would call it a disorganized mob of sometimes organized ships :)
Originally by: Merin Ryskin
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That's the awesome part of it! You can fly frigates, and they are useful. And cheap. Cheap means we get to pew pew all day long. And when the other side also flies frigates, there is much fun to be had. Also, the one month noobs can actually compete with the 3 year old vets if we are all in frigates. (maybe not 1v1, but in a gang. A few more months and the noobs can have a reasonable chance against a vet 1v1 sp wise).
And guess what happens when your frigate gang goes up against a proper fleet of equal numbers: it's a massacre. The only reason your blob of T1 frigates every kills anything is because the lack of motivation for skilled players to join FW means that you're fighting people who are equally incompetent.
If we come up against that, we up our ship types. But, you are missing the point. We can all have fun for cheap! That translates into less time running level 4's.
Not to mention that lots of plexes we stumble across only last for 10 minutes, and have ship type restrictions. That encourages the small gangs flying around in small ships, getting pvp against others in the same types of ships. If we all flew around in one big blob, the other side would just run, and we wouldn't get any fights. If both sides just blobbed up, we'd just be back to 0.0 combat. Many people actually ship down and small in smaller gangs to precisely *get* fights that the enemy would otherwise just run away from due to being outnumbered, or fear of lag.
Originally by: Merin Ryskin
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tbh, I've only been pvping for a month. I'm doing pretty well in fw. Is this cause the caldari really suck and I just suck less? I don't think so, but I really don't know. Do I care? Not really, it's hella fun :D
The Caldari do suck. If not for their hilarious incompetence at using the best fleet ships in the game, CCP would have had to run an emergency downtime "event" just to keep the Gallente from losing every single system and every single battle.
The gal militia uses caldari ships too :)
Anyways, fw is different. Unlike 0.0, we don't really lose anything by running away, so if the fight is way against us (e.g. your organized fleet comes in to our t1 frigates), we just scatter and we may go get bigger ships, or you don't get a fight and we go somewhere else, find a different plex and a different group of people to pew pew with.
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iudex
Caldari
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2009.03.07 00:03:00 -
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Originally by: Merin Ryskin
...
As for FW in general, I rest my case:
Its a major effort for us in the Caldari to get a 20/30 man fleet togather atm, maybe due to the lag or some other reason. Even when we do, the fleet is made up of 3 year old toons flying Merlins
You have obviously no clue of what we are doing.
An hour ago we had a nice battle against pirates in Tama for example, our FC did a good job with baiting them and here is a part of the result:
-> Killmail 1
-> Killmail 2
-> Killmail 3
-> Killmail 4
etc.
That are just a few examples that prove you wrong. You can also check my (or that of other pilots involved) lossmails on that board - are that Merlins ?
Get your facts straigt before insulting others.
Faction Standings: Serpentis +7.81 // Angel Cartel +7.60 // Minmatar Republic -8.68 // Gallente Federation -9.88 |
Siigari Kitawa
Gallente
The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2009.03.07 00:28:00 -
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Originally by: iudex
Get your facts straigt before insulting others.
That's not possible for Merin. 1) He can't get facts because he does not investigate and 2) Anything less than an insult is not valid for posting on internet forums to him.
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Chris Fierce
Caldari
NoD Imperium
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Posted - 2009.03.07 01:49:00 -
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Originally by: Merin Ryskin
As for FW in general, I rest my case:
Its a major effort for us in the Caldari to get a 20/30 man fleet togather atm, maybe due to the lag or some other reason. Even when we do, the fleet is made up of 3 year old toons flying Merlins
Irony is wasted on the stupid.
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Hobgoblin ll
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Posted - 2009.03.07 01:56:00 -
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Originally by: Chris Fierce
Originally by: Merin Ryskin
As for FW in general, I rest my case:
Its a major effort for us in the Caldari to get a 20/30 man fleet togather atm, maybe due to the lag or some other reason. Even when we do, the fleet is made up of 3 year old toons flying Merlins
Irony is wasted on the stupid.
Irony you say ? Read her other posts. The sad thing is that Merin is serious about that.
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Gartel Reiman
Civis Romanus Sum
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Posted - 2009.03.07 02:39:00 -
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The real irony is a Stealth Bomber doing top damage on a Merin lossmail.
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Terianna Eri
Amarr
Scrutari
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Posted - 2009.03.07 05:42:00 -
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Originally by: Gartel Reiman
The real irony is a Stealth Bomber doing top damage on a Merin lossmail.
hahaha, oh wow
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Originally by: CCP Whisper
Boo hoo. Cry some more.
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Serapo Petrotestes
Caldari
22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit
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Posted - 2009.03.07 10:53:00 -
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Originally by: Merin Ryskin
Originally by: chatgris
I'd just like to point out, we were two separate gangs. WOLFY had a fleet up, and had already tackled you, then my fleet just happenned to stumble across you and join in. No coordination involved :)
And this is exactly the kind of thing I'm talking about. Why were you in two separate gangs? Even if for some reason you want to split your forces, you still keep them all in the same gang and on the same voice chat, just in case you need to bring them back together. FW is a disorganized mob, not a proper fleet.
That is exactly the point. Militias are largely disorganized and some seriously funny fits or desperately idiotic things happen. That is part of the lulz. You just join in the mess and have fun, without worrying about stiff butts with their heads so far up their own rears that they never see the sun and joy of casual wild ops.
And you can have small organized fleets plowing through the mess. Which in turn can run into well organized pirate ops. Double fun.
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2009.03.07 21:38:00 -
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Originally by: Serapo Petrotestes
That is exactly the point. Militias are largely disorganized and some seriously funny fits or desperately idiotic things happen. That is part of the lulz. You just join in the mess and have fun, without worrying about stiff butts with their heads so far up their own rears that they never see the sun and joy of casual wild ops.
And you can have small organized fleets plowing through the mess. Which in turn can run into well organized pirate ops. Double fun.
I love how the subject has turned from "FW players don't suck!" to "FW players suck, but we like it this way!". Keep telling yourselves that...
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LegendInMyOwnMind
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Posted - 2009.03.07 22:17:00 -
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Originally by: chatgris
Edited by: chatgris on 06/03/2009 20:52:19
Originally by: Merin Ryskin
Repeat after me: FW players suck. Expecting good tactics from a bunch of hilariously incompetent carebears is pure wishful thinking.
I believe Merin is bitter due to this...
http://quafeultra.com/killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=109229
You were calling us pathetic in local, but what do you expect us to do if you bring a shiny ship like that into heyd, flashing red and all.
So Merin says that FW is filled with abunch of incompetent carebears, and your defense is to link a kill where you outnumber him 11-1, with some t2 ships, and STILL manage to lose someone?
You pretty much fail at internet spaceships.
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Draco Rosso
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Posted - 2009.03.07 22:50:00 -
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I encourage all FW pilots to link their Merin Kill mails to this thread. 
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Beltantis Torrence
Balls Deep Inc.
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Posted - 2009.03.08 00:14:00 -
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Camping is boring. Roaming is fun.
And besides, who roams around in groups larger than 3 without having a forward scout?
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chatgris
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Posted - 2009.03.08 05:46:00 -
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Originally by: LegendInMyOwnMind
Originally by: chatgris
Edited by: chatgris on 06/03/2009 20:52:19
Originally by: Merin Ryskin
Repeat after me: FW players suck. Expecting good tactics from a bunch of hilariously incompetent carebears is pure wishful thinking.
I believe Merin is bitter due to this...
http://quafeultra.com/killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=109229
You were calling us pathetic in local, but what do you expect us to do if you bring a shiny ship like that into heyd, flashing red and all.
So Merin says that FW is filled with abunch of incompetent carebears, and your defense is to link a kill where you outnumber him 11-1, with some t2 ships, and STILL manage to lose someone?
You pretty much fail at internet spaceships.
That wasn't a counter argument to what he said, but rather an amusing observation given his very careful italicization less than an hour and a half after losing his faction ship :)
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Ryoken McKeon
Galactic Defence Syndicate
Eradication Alliance
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Posted - 2009.03.08 08:34:00 -
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Originally by: Merin Ryskin
I love how the subject has turned from "FW players don't suck!" to "FW players suck, but we like it this way!". Keep telling yourselves that...
I'm curious as to why you're so interested in the subject then? Seriously, I cannot think of a decent reason for you to be continuing this, I don't do FW mostly for the reasons that you've brought up, but I don't see the point in calling everyone involved pathetic losers--it just doesn't do anything for me.
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Yakia TovilToba
Halliburton Inc.
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Posted - 2009.03.08 12:43:00 -
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Originally by: Ryoken McKeon
Originally by: Merin Ryskin
I love how the subject has turned from "FW players don't suck!" to "FW players suck, but we like it this way!". Keep telling yourselves that...
I'm curious as to why you're so interested in the subject then? Seriously, I cannot think of a decent reason for you to be continuing this, I don't do FW mostly for the reasons that you've brought up, but I don't see the point in calling everyone involved pathetic losers--it just doesn't do anything for me.
Some people have to disparge others to hide thier own inferiority complexes. Making someone else bad pleases their ego, thats a kind of disturbed personality, we should feel sorry for her, probably she didn't get any love when she was a child or something.
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2009.03.08 14:45:00 -
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More like I want to see someone do something about FW, instead of everyone just pretending that FW is fine and leaving it this pathetic little mess that only the hardcore RPers bother to care about. CCP isn't going to change anything unless people complain, you know...
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chatgris
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Posted - 2009.03.08 15:35:00 -
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Edited by: chatgris on 08/03/2009 15:35:40
Originally by: Merin Ryskin
More like I want to see someone do something about FW, instead of everyone just pretending that FW is fine and leaving it this pathetic little mess that only the hardcore RPers bother to care about. CCP isn't going to change anything unless people complain, you know...
What do you suggest they change? I hope it's not a change that forces everyone into one huge organized blob like 0.0 cause I really like my solo and small gang frigate warfare.
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Echo Romeo
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Posted - 2009.03.08 17:03:00 -
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There is not really much to change about FW except attitudes. Lots of carebears who are starting to find there pvp epeens.
Hopefully plenty of them will devlop into decent pvp'ers and will probs look back and cringe after the fact :)
There is a whole lot of stupidity coming out of people in facwar because they are still getting there toes wet, forum myth gets spouted as fact. (stealth bombers been good at killing frigs, impossable to catch fast ships with slower ones etc.. etc..)
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Inertial
The Carebear Stare
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Posted - 2009.03.08 18:05:00 -
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I spent a few hours in the militia, and during those few hours I almost ripped my eyes out and shoved them into my ears. Its just a endless barrage of stupid, from the top down.
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Ryoken McKeon
Galactic Defence Syndicate
Eradication Alliance
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Posted - 2009.03.08 19:31:00 -
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Originally by: Merin Ryskin
More like I want to see someone do something about FW, instead of everyone just pretending that FW is fine and leaving it this pathetic little mess that only the hardcore RPers bother to care about. CCP isn't going to change anything unless people complain, you know...
This is a total load of crap, everyone wants to see something done about FW, and they go about it constructively by making threads discussing the issues involved with the mechanic itself, not insulting anyone who tries to have fun using the mechanic as is. You're right, CCP won't change anything unless people complain, but I'm afraid what you're doing isn't in the slightest constructive, and I'm sure any devs reading this weren't even thinking about FW in terms of what's wrong with IT so much as why some arrogant little ***** is insulting everyone who is trying to make the best of it.
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Juan Rayo
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.03.08 22:14:00 -
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Originally by: Pimpertron
What use are large fleets in FW other than bunker busting?
Uh, fun?
We have our big battles and bring out the big toys. We have our roaming gangs and get cruisers and frigs, we hunt each other all over lowsec and get good fights over plexes, at gates, at busted safespots, at bunkers. We have fresh out of trial newbies having a hoot in their t1 frigs. We have our velators of doom ops. Yeah, faction warfare sucks man.
Only thing I truly hate about FW is the docking games, but you can ignore those and keep your gang going.
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Raimo
Gallente
Wrath of Fenris
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Posted - 2009.03.09 06:34:00 -
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Originally by: Inertial
I spent a few hours in the militia, and during those few hours I almost ripped my eyes out and shoved them into my ears. Its just a endless barrage of stupid, from the top down.
I reckon that you did not join a decent player corp?
If not, that was a big mistake... Thus the endless barrage of stupid was actually you.
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Galliana Foresta
Fleeting Moments of Insanity
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Posted - 2009.03.09 15:02:00 -
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Poasting in a Merin hate thread.
FW is broken, everyone knows it and everyone complains all the time.
FW is not full of disorganised noobs.
You need to stop posting in the forums, as your already meagre level of credibility is diminishing further by the day.
Also, come to the Amarr theatre of war. We'd love to show you how disorganised we are.
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Guer
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Posted - 2009.03.09 22:58:00 -
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I, for one, love readin merin posts
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Conradical
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Posted - 2009.03.09 23:19:00 -
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Originally by: Merin Ryskin
Originally by: Serapo Petrotestes
That is exactly the point. Militias are largely disorganized and some seriously funny fits or desperately idiotic things happen. That is part of the lulz. You just join in the mess and have fun, without worrying about stiff butts with their heads so far up their own rears that they never see the sun and joy of casual wild ops.
And you can have small organized fleets plowing through the mess. Which in turn can run into well organized pirate ops. Double fun.
I love how the subject has turned from "FW players don't suck!" to "FW players suck, but we like it this way!". Keep telling yourselves that...
FW Troll has failed? 
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