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Ava Baby Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2009.03.08 04:13:00 - [31] Edited by: Ava Baby on 08/03/2009 04:13:34 Originally by: Gonada and you wonder why the french got steamrolled in both world wars..... On that note... Do a Google search for "French military victories" using the I'm feeling lucky button. Edit: first on page 2 woot Originally by: Asestorian I support this message. Whatever it is.
Joe Umbra Legion Shadow Empire.	Posted - 2009.03.08 04:15:00 - [32] They're going to bittorrent it for Patch day. But you wont have a CNR to use when it finishs dowloading Recruiting Amarr PVE Enthusiasts
Dantes Revenge Caldari	Posted - 2009.03.08 04:25:00 - [33] Originally by: Goodwill George I hate to reak this to you, but the download on SiSi doesn't have to eb same one as the final TQ build. Also, the sisi download doesn't support torrents. The final TQ build can be downloaded as a torrent and therefore a higher probablility of success even if it does take a little longer. Yes, the limited bandwidth is a PITA and even more annoying when downloads fail. You'd probably be better getting a friend to do it for you and save it to DVD or even a USB memory stick if you can't handle the torrent download. -- Originally by: CCP Whisper No it is not an official statement. Not everything surrounded by blue bars is an official statement which can be quoted as fact until the end of time. Deal with it.
Le Sabre Gallente The Dead Canary Mining Corporation Legion of Honor	Posted - 2009.03.08 04:28:00 - [34] Ive never heard of 'unlimited' bandwidth before, that must be one heck of a system they got. Points out that there is nothing in the universe to mans knowledge that is unlimited Seriously though, most people don't have 'unlimited' bandwidth as not everyone lives in the centre of an American city. Not trying to be nasty about it, but as an example I cant find a single UK internet provider that doesn't use a 'f.u.p.' (fair usage policy) that prevents large single downloads and going over an allotted amount of bandwidth per month. ------------------------------------------
Ruze Amarr No Applicable Corporation	Posted - 2009.03.08 04:46:00 - [35] Originally by: Le Sabre Ive never heard of 'unlimited' bandwidth before, that must be one heck of a system they got. Points out that there is nothing in the universe to mans knowledge that is unlimited Seriously though, most people don't have 'unlimited' bandwidth as not everyone lives in the centre of an American city. Not trying to be nasty about it, but as an example I cant find a single UK internet provider that doesn't use a 'f.u.p.' (fair usage policy) that prevents large single downloads and going over an allotted amount of bandwidth per month. The US seems to be the last little bastion, I guess, where they don't limit how much you can download and access.
CHAOS100 Widowmakers	Posted - 2009.03.08 04:47:00 - [36] Yeah all those gloating about their internutz connection, well not everyone has a choice now do they. I get 95 gigs a month, upload included. with the 10mbit connection, that means I can download at full capacity for less than 1 day before I am over limit. Sad part is that they have pretty much a monopoly since they own the cable lines... you could opt for DSL but its inferior. Even sadder is they even have the balls to increase their rates, now paying $70. I blame the Canadian government for not allowing foreign competition, because it might hurt the profittttts. --------------
Kitsumi Minmatar	Posted - 2009.03.08 04:57:00 - [37] Originally by: Le Sabre Ive never heard of 'unlimited' bandwidth before, that must be one heck of a system they got. Points out that there is nothing in the universe to mans knowledge that is unlimited Ignorance? *Scars flown proud!*
Kweel Nakashyn Minmatar Kernel of War Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2009.03.08 05:12:00 - [38] Originally by: Ruze The french have never won a war Napoleon, Charlemagne and Guillaume le conquTrant were from which countries ? 100 year's war anyone ? Fetchez la vache ! moar(tm) > soon(tm) \o/
Haniblecter Teg F.R.E.E. Explorer Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.03.08 06:11:00 - [39] Originally by: Roy Boaz Edited by: Roy Boaz on 07/03/2009 19:15:54 So I decided to go to singularity to test the new content, which I was very sceptical about. Started the 1.4 GB download but disconnected after 400 MB. When I restarted, the clever Download manager didn't manage anything: I restarted from scratch. I don't have unlimited download bandwith and such flawed design and service is unacceptable in 2009. Guess I will be putting on a very long skill for ApoGrind, just in case I don't log in for a very, very long time... Yes! You can have my stuff! The first one to give me the author and historical importance of the following French Verse will get my fitted CNR : "Les sanglots longs des violons de l'automne, bercent mon coeur d'une langueur monotone". Wow, that was fast!! RUZE win the CNR, congratulation! Yea, people in the 21st century use broadband. May want to check into that. ----------------- Friends Forever
T'Laar Bok	Posted - 2009.03.08 07:33:00 - [40] Originally by: Kerc Kasha I pay 70 AUD a month for a fibre optic line that is probably equal to around T1 with horrid upload, its a decent speed but the problem is the horrible download limits that is 12 gb for the entire month 'on peak' (12 pm to 12 am) and 24 gb offpeak (12 am to 12pm). Share that amongst a house hold and you barely manage to not go over. I'll happily swap you our 6gig @ 33k satellite and its only $270AUD a month. Shutup, its faster than our phone line (12k).

Nova Fox Gallente Novafox Shipyards	Posted - 2009.03.08 08:48:00 - [41] Edited by: Nova Fox on 08/03/2009 08:49:09 Quote: Australia in particular has Internet that is equal to that of a third world country thanks to our corrupt service providers who put zero effort into upgrading the arcanic systems they put in place decades ago and its taking it toll. We're forced to pay hundreds of dollars a month for limited bandwidth and **ty unreliable service. If we had an actual choice in the matter we would of upgraded, not amount of whining or ***ing can change it due to the stupidity of our government allowing for a monopoly on the service provider market and left it that way for years before realizing what damage it did to the actual service. Hell using 56k over here is better value for money than using ADSL or Cable is. I pay 70 AUD a month for a fibre optic line that is probably equal to around T1 with horrid upload, its a decent speed but the problem is the horrible download limits that is 12 gb for the entire month 'on peak' (12 pm to 12 am) and 24 gb offpeak (12 am to 12pm). Share that amongst a house hold and you barely manage to not go over. Most of the states' communications infrastructure was built back in the 1980s the three companies that did it back then went backrupt doing so sadly. today companies are buying rights to the fiber optic network and rapidly expanding opon the old network to new areas because its a compitition out there. Most of our costs on the internet is divered from the rental use of these lines, similar to connection fees of telephones just that most fiber optics are far more reliable than the old copper wires used for most telephones and most phone companies already switched in technology use, not in billing structure, which is why there are not alot of upstart companies popping up now using the cheaper service of fiber optics and providing just low costs. Oh btw, myspace is probably a larger country than austrailia in terms of the internet. ============= Pre Order your Sisters of Eve ship today
Khlitouris RegusII	Posted - 2009.03.08 14:25:00 - [42] Originally by: Kerc Kasha Originally by: Khlitouris RegusII Originally by: Roy Boaz Edited by: Roy Boaz on 07/03/2009 19:15:54 So I decided to go to singularity to test the new content, which I was very sceptical about. Started the 1.4 GB download but disconnected after 400 MB. When I restarted, the clever Download manager didn't manage anything: I restarted from scratch. I don't have unlimited download bandwith and such flawed design and service is unacceptable in 2009. Guess I will be putting on a very long skill for ApoGrind, just in case I don't log in for a very, very long time... Yes! You can have my stuff! The first one to give me the author and historical importance of the following French Verse will get my fitted CNR : "Les sanglots longs des violons de l'automne, bercent mon coeur d'une langueur monotone". Wow, that was fast!! RUZE win the CNR, congratulation! you have a crap connection , not ccp's fault you have a crap download manager, not ccp's fault go cry elsewhere? Australia in particular has Internet that is equal to that of a third world country thanks to our corrupt service providers who put zero effort into upgrading the arcanic systems they put in place decades ago and its taking it toll. We're forced to pay hundreds of dollars a month for limited bandwidth and **ty unreliable service. If we had an actual choice in the matter we would of upgraded, not amount of whining or ***ing can change it due to the stupidity of our government allowing for a monopoly on the service provider market and left it that way for years before realizing what damage it did to the actual service. Hell using 56k over here is better value for money than using ADSL or Cable is. I pay 70 AUD a month for a fibre optic line that is probably equal to around T1 with horrid upload, its a decent speed but the problem is the horrible download limits that is 12 gb for the entire month 'on peak' (12 pm to 12 am) and 24 gb offpeak (12 am to 12pm). Share that amongst a house hold and you barely manage to not go over. That is still not ccp's fault.
Mr Funkadelic x13 X13 Alliance	Posted - 2009.03.08 14:37:00 - [43] Edited by: Mr Funkadelic on 08/03/2009 14:37:15 Quote: I don't have unlimited download bandwith and such flawed design and service is unacceptable in 2009. This is your problem. Get a real connection, you live in 2009!
Le Sabre Gallente The Dead Canary Mining Corporation Legion of Honor	Posted - 2009.03.08 14:47:00 - [44] Originally by: Mr Funkadelic Edited by: Mr Funkadelic on 08/03/2009 14:37:15 Quote: I don't have unlimited download bandwith and such flawed design and service is unacceptable in 2009. This is your problem. Get a real connection, you live in 2009! Read the whole thread before posting. The op more than likely lives in part of Europe or any Country which isn't America, and as such has to use a service provider that places a fair usage policy on their service. I know, shock and horror that in 2009 there are still limits imposed by companies that are run for profit before service. ------------------------------------------
Miniturret Amarr Mining Under the influence of Sugar Pals	Posted - 2009.03.08 15:41:00 - [45] or the op lives someplace even in the US where they don't have a cable line or fiber optic line yet. Case in point whenever I have a dll for EvE I do it at work since I have no cable or fiber optic option open to me. I have a) Dail up @ $18 a month (which they do limit and after a certain amount will either "Randomly Drop" the connection or slow down to an even slower crawl) or a Sat connection @ $70 per month plus $400 for the dish itself. I even checked into the wireless connection through verizon's cell phone signal and it clearly states on the contract "Not for use with gaming" so there isn't even a point there.
Lord Fitz Project Amargosa	Posted - 2009.03.08 16:21:00 - [46] Originally by: Le Sabre limits imposed by companies that are run for profit before service. You mean there are companies in other countries whose goal isn't to gain as many customers as possible by providing an unsustainable service, give the executives big bonuses and then fail and ask for a handout from taxpayers ?
Thraaies Amarr Golden Mechanization Protectorate	Posted - 2009.03.08 16:37:00 - [47] I hate to say it.. But even in the US there is no such thing as unlimited bandwidth. Comcast has moved to a limited usage approach and when you reach it they dial you all the way down to dialup speeds. Cox has also moved to a similar system. There are few if any remaining companys that allow you unlimited internet. The most you are going to get is around 200GB of total useage before it starts capping out. And for those that use one of the two provides that hasn't been effected by the new cap's yet. It's coming and will be spread across the US by the middle of the year. That is unless the put in there net tier plans that is based upon total useage caps. You could get 800 GB for around $200 a month if you wanted. But not everyone has cable or other options. I live in the middle of a forest and the closest town is about 50 mins away. There's no way I could get cable out here as it's not cost effective for them to pipe fiber out for one or two residents.
Hariya	Posted - 2009.03.08 20:52:00 - [48] Originally by: Thraaies That is unless the put in there net tier plans that is based upon total useage caps. You could get 800 GB for around $200 a month if you wanted. Never realized things are that bad in the US... I had previously 24 eur/mo 10/10mbit connection. Most months I got past 2 terabytes of traffic...
An Anarchyyt Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.08 21:13:00 - [49] Edited by: An Anarchyyt on 08/03/2009 21:12:51 Originally by: Le Sabre Originally by: Mr Funkadelic Edited by: Mr Funkadelic on 08/03/2009 14:37:15 Quote: I don't have unlimited download bandwith and such flawed design and service is unacceptable in 2009. This is your problem. Get a real connection, you live in 2009! Read the whole thread before posting. The op more than likely lives in part of Europe or any Country which isn't America, and as such has to use a service provider that places a fair usage policy on their service. I know, shock and horror that in 2009 there are still limits imposed by companies that are run for profit before service. Then I guess people should stop living in the third world then. Look at Iceland, it isn't CCPs fault if your country sucks. Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
Clueless Alt	Posted - 2009.03.08 21:16:00 - [50] Originally by: Hariya Originally by: Thraaies That is unless the put in there net tier plans that is based upon total useage caps. You could get 800 GB for around $200 a month if you wanted. Never realized things are that bad in the US... I had previously 24 eur/mo 10/10mbit connection. Most months I got past 2 terabytes of traffic... Had a 100MB (but ½ only + 5 for upload) without limit for 30€/month once... but now I have a 5GB quota @HSPA :bluecry: well at least I can eve even in trains.

Ruze Amarr No Applicable Corporation	Posted - 2009.03.08 21:17:00 - [51] Originally by: Hariya Originally by: Thraaies That is unless the put in there net tier plans that is based upon total useage caps. You could get 800 GB for around $200 a month if you wanted. Never realized things are that bad in the US... I had previously 24 eur/mo 10/10mbit connection. Most months I got past 2 terabytes of traffic... Out of fifty states, more than half don't have regular broadband connections. So much of our country is still stuck with 56k, unless they dish out a LOT of money to monopolized industries. It's easy for my ignorant 'America is the bestest' friends here to forget that.
Clueless Alt	Posted - 2009.03.08 21:27:00 - [52] So, France won the broadband war against USA.
Khlitouris RegusII	Posted - 2009.03.09 00:09:00 - [53] Originally by: Le Sabre Originally by: Mr Funkadelic Edited by: Mr Funkadelic on 08/03/2009 14:37:15 Quote: I don't have unlimited download bandwith and such flawed design and service is unacceptable in 2009. This is your problem. Get a real connection, you live in 2009! Read the whole thread before posting. The op more than likely lives in part of Europe or any Country which isn't America, and as such has to use a service provider that places a fair usage policy on their service. I know, shock and horror that in 2009 there are still limits imposed by companies that are run for profit before service. I live in europe my isp has a fair use policy they sent me a letter complaining about my downloading 30 gig in one day, i phoned them up and told them i wanted to end my service as having a 20mb connection and only a 30 gig a month usage was crap they apologised and i havent had a letter since i regularly dload over 100 gig a month now :)
Lady Aja Caldari IDLE GUNS	Posted - 2009.03.09 00:25:00 - [54] Edited by: Lady Aja on 09/03/2009 00:28:04 Originally by: An Anarchyyt You had to download 1.4 GB? A whole Gig? HOLY CRAP!!! and you wonder why you got youre self and your alliance banned from exploration? ****ing Arrogant Goon aka F.A.G!
Khlitouris RegusII	Posted - 2009.03.09 01:02:00 - [55] Originally by: Lady Aja Edited by: Lady Aja on 09/03/2009 00:28:04 Originally by: An Anarchyyt You had to download 1.4 GB? A whole Gig? HOLY CRAP!!! and you wonder why you got youre self and your alliance banned from exploration? ****ing Arrogant Goon aka F.A.G! You got a crap connection too and not got the nuts to cry to your isp?
Le Sabre Gallente The Dead Canary Mining Corporation Legion of Honor	Posted - 2009.03.09 01:31:00 - [56] Originally by: An Anarchyyt Then I guess people should stop living in the third world then. Look at Iceland, it isn't CCPs fault if your country sucks. Nice, a flame. I didn't blame ccp for anything, and its usually a not a good idea to start throwing around 'your country sucks' as some people can take that as a racist stance. So grow up. Also to the guy who went over 30gigs and now gets much more bandwidth, I have never heard of anyone getting a better service after they violated the rules. Most will just charge extra for the bandwidth they think you did not deserve, and there have been cases of people being charged huge amounts for violating a f.u.p. Most internet providers have a very rigid set of terms and conditions that they expect their customers to adhere to. Not saying you are wrong, it just sounds like you were incredibly lucky and one of a few. ------------------------------------------
Gunnanmon Gallente UNITED STAR SYNDICATE	Posted - 2009.03.09 01:32:00 - [57] Originally by: Ruze Originally by: Le Sabre Ive never heard of 'unlimited' bandwidth before, that must be one heck of a system they got. Points out that there is nothing in the universe to mans knowledge that is unlimited Seriously though, most people don't have 'unlimited' bandwidth as not everyone lives in the centre of an American city. Not trying to be nasty about it, but as an example I cant find a single UK internet provider that doesn't use a 'f.u.p.' (fair usage policy) that prevents large single downloads and going over an allotted amount of bandwidth per month. The US seems to be the last little bastion, I guess, where they don't limit how much you can download and access. Comcast now do. Those imbeciles banned me over a year ago. :/
Evthron Macyntire	Posted - 2009.03.09 01:53:00 - [58] Originally by: Hariya Get a real internet connection... 1.4 gigabytes is only <10 minutes download. If yours isn't stable for that long time, ask for your money back. Well where I live, the only difference between what I have now and the best available, is cost. Srsly. ------------------------------ Sigs like this.
Khlitouris RegusII	Posted - 2009.03.09 02:01:00 - [59] pay the cost then?
Andrue Amarr	Posted - 2009.03.09 10:19:00 - [60] Originally by: Le Sabre Seriously though, most people don't have 'unlimited' bandwidth as not everyone lives in the centre of an American city. Not trying to be nasty about it, but as an example I cant find a single UK internet provider that doesn't use a 'f.u.p.' (fair usage policy) that prevents large single downloads and going over an allotted amount of bandwidth per month. Look harder. True they do have a FUP but they only time they enforced it was last year when some muppets DOSd the DNS servers. They aren't perfect (they sometimes fail to respond to congestion in time) but they are pretty close. -- (Sarcastic mission running veteran, 4+ years) [Brackley, UK] My budgie can say "ploppy bottom". You have been warned.



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