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General Meridus
Minmatar
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2009.03.09 07:42:00 -
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Granted it is not easy. But that is the point. Is it not?
Your going to have to take some time to learn this system. I've been at it for the past few weeks, and I can tell you it takes some time. I will also tell you, it can be done. It does get faster and easier with practice. There are a few tricks you will learn that will help you find other exits.
If W space was easy to move in and out of, it would just become another mission hub. I am not a fan of the new probe system, but I will learn to work with it. If I can do it, so can you. Try again.
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The Economist
Logically Consistent
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Posted - 2009.03.09 07:55:00 -
[32]
 Originally by: Karen Kassad
Or really just let me X-out hits that I have already scanned down so I don't chase my tail, I can handle scanning 20 sigs, but scanning 20 sigs 10 times is not fun.
Nail on the head for me; just need some more result filter options to bring the new probing system up to snuff, apart from that it all works rather nicely.
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Neddy Fox
Gallente
Paxton Industries
Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2009.03.09 08:25:00 -
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You don't need dedicated ships. I scan in my domi as good as in my rigged helios. It's a tad slower, but np hitting sigs within 10 minutes.
For those who don't have comprehensive reading skilled : It's about closing in on ONE SPECIFIC sig, the WH. You can't ! And because of deviation, bookmarking all results will STILL make you scan old ones, since your result isn't accurate enough when starting.
For those who still didn't read : It's about being INSIDE W-space, and trying to find a WH with 20+ results in your scanner window.
We need :
-Filter on WH's only, =r
-Being able to 'disable' found results.
The first mechanic already exists in TQ, by selecting the proper probe. When I have 2 radars and 1 magno in TQ, and I select radar probes I *will* find the radar site in 99% of the cases instead of a magno.
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Clocky
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Posted - 2009.03.09 08:55:00 -
[34]
This is why I am still playing eve after a year and a half hehe. All the other mmos ive played are way to easy. I hope CCP never change the wormhole system as I love the idea of having to take a risk that results in possible death. So long as they stick to there guns I will be happy.
If you dont like the WH system then dont go. How much more simple do you want it. No one is forcing anyone in there the same as no one is being forced to go to 0.0 .
"As if a million carebear voices cried out and fell into a Wormhole"
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Space Wanderer
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Posted - 2009.03.09 09:12:00 -
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Originally by: Wild Winnie
The problem here is that SOME TIME is actually several days if possible at all, and unless you have tried to scan your way out from a WH then STUFFIT!!!!
I did, several times. Honestly it's only a tiny bit more difficult than scanning your way in. One time I have been able to find TWO new whs in the system in 15mins.
Admittedly, you have to LEARN to use the scan system, and not just "drop probe--hit scan". But if you refuse to get proficient at scanning, I fail to see why you should get all the advantages. It's like refusing to learn pvp and expect to win just because you have made the training/isk investment.
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ollobrains2
Gallente
New Eve Order Holdings
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Posted - 2009.03.09 09:39:00 -
[36]
after 5 hours i was nailing donw sites left right and centre so no i dont really see any porblems once u get the hang of it and once it hits tq site will be rarer not 50 per system even in wspace. maybe 10 at a time
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Thenoran
Caldari
Tranquility Industries
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Posted - 2009.03.09 09:46:00 -
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Use the Core Launcher and fit it on your ship you take into the Wormhole.
For example a Drake has a free highslot so you could slap it on there, the Core Launcher only needs 15 CPU.
Just be sure to bring a lot of probes.
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ollobrains2
Gallente
New Eve Order Holdings
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Posted - 2009.03.09 09:48:00 -
[38]
probes can be brought back so reusable
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Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2009.03.09 10:06:00 -
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After a week or less, there will be a web site or ten up and running providing lists of the different percentage values relating to wormholes and other sites.
They will probably even have an option to select the strength bonus on the fly and modifying the lists accordingly.
Who know, in time CCP might even add a specific WH filter to the scanner if they can figure out how to do it .. I am guessing it's not in now since they ran into complications making he code behave together with new probing system.
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Pliauga
Gallente
Aliastra
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Posted - 2009.03.09 10:09:00 -
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Edited by: Pliauga on 09/03/2009 10:10:55
tl;dr
I DID go to a WH,
I DID get stuck,
I was NOT in a dedicated scanning ship (proteus),
My scanning skills are NOT maxed out,
I took me about 3 hours to find an exit to k-space,
I landed in lowsec.
Conclusion: I think it was awesome. And all working as intended.
EDIT: I had to scan through most of the sites to find the exit, it was frustrating, and I was getting desperate at one point. But I think that's how it should be.
Tip:
After scanning down each site, warp to it at 100km, cloaked if possible, bookmark it, and get the hell out. Should help a little with scanning same sites multiple times.
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Thorson Wiles
Minmatar
M3 Co-Op
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Posted - 2009.03.09 10:50:00 -
[41]
Originally by: Wild Winnie
The problem here is that SOME TIME is actually several days if possible at all, and unless you have tried to scan your way out from a WH then STUFFIT!!!!
And? Yep, it'll be difficult, and you've been warned. If after the warning you still go in and have your BMed exit collapse on you ... get scanning. (And the WH you find may not lead back to k-space, which the dev blog also warns you about.)
Originally by: Wild Winnie
Probing is not easy in any ship after they added deviation, and when you have >20 hits to scan out it will take days even from a "lowsec" WH.
Scanning out a signature in a 'Cane takes as little as 6 minutes for me during testing yesterday. The most it took, per sig, was 10 minutes.
Originally by: Wild Winnie
THIS ISNT "CAN GET LOST" THIS IS "WILL GET STUCK FOR A WEEK SCANNING"
Getting lost in WH space is worse than stuck for a week.
The worse part about each is the consumable supplies, like ammunition. Run out of ammo and you have no choice but do nothing except probing out wormholes to try and get out.
This also, in a round-about manner, you have been warned about.
So, if you go into wormhole space and get stuck after all these warnings, there is only one person to blame, and that person's initials are not CCP.
CCP may be evil, but this is great content. (I may not use it frequently, but it's still good)
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ollobrains2
Gallente
New Eve Order Holdings
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Posted - 2009.03.09 10:59:00 -
[42]
as far as ammo lasers and drones will be best suited. Other option is always self destruct it will come with the territory
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
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Posted - 2009.03.09 11:11:00 -
[43]
Originally by: ollobrains2
as far as ammo lasers and drones will be best suited. Other option is always self destruct it will come with the territory
still wish there was some sort of bonus to cargo space for ammo...
that would help out to make tech 3 ships better for wormholes.
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ollobrains2
Gallente
New Eve Order Holdings
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Posted - 2009.03.09 11:13:00 -
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bonus to cargo bay would be good
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MidNightRoD
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Posted - 2009.03.09 11:26:00 -
[45]
"Getting lost" could be achieved by this:
Put 10-15 WHs in each W-space system, only 1 or 2 leads back to K-space. There you go, you are lost in (W)space... To compansate, make it finding a WH in W-space is a lot easier than K-space.
But current system is also nice.
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The Shadowman
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Posted - 2009.03.09 11:28:00 -
[46]
I'm glad its hard to find a way out as the more people who self-destruct, the more salvage there is for me...
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DeTox MinRohim
Madhatters Inc.
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.03.09 11:35:00 -
[47]
Originally by: But Sects
Your the reason McDonald's has to put warnings on coffee cups saying "This cup is hot!"
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Spurty
Caldari
Amok.
Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.03.09 11:42:00 -
[48]
hard = no
time consuming = yes
fun = so so
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ollobrains2
Gallente
New Eve Order Holdings
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Posted - 2009.03.09 11:45:00 -
[49]
another option is to randomly palce youre ship at a safespot and pod and self destruct and then see if u can refind youre ship :)
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Pliauga
Gallente
Aliastra
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Posted - 2009.03.09 11:46:00 -
[50]
Originally by: ollobrains2
as far as ammo lasers and drones will be best suited. Other option is always self destruct it will come with the territory
Sorry, wasn't in Sisi for the past 2 days, you sure drones are a good idea?
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ollobrains2
Gallente
New Eve Order Holdings
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Posted - 2009.03.09 11:49:00 -
[51]
drones would be an additional bakcup but sleepers do tend to try and eat them maybe a domi. Wormhole space is gunna be a high risk-high return thing or simply a stop off for small gangs going from one area via wspace to another area
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Rakshasa Taisab
Caldari
Sane Industries Inc.
United Freemen Alliance
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Posted - 2009.03.09 12:05:00 -
[52]
More whine == More profit for me!
YAY?
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Pookie McPook
Nova Synergy PLC
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Posted - 2009.03.09 13:38:00 -
[53]
Sounds to me like it may be a good time for the carebears to visit low sec to mine/rat as all the pvp'ers will be marooned in W-space.
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Sawirek
Caldari
BLACK BARONS
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Posted - 2009.03.09 14:09:00 -
[54]
If you didn't heard it's tagged as dangerous unknown space. Not "noob kindergarden",
not "raven solo me heaven", not "easy bucks for whiners".
The motto of the WH space is: "You are going to lose your ship sooner or later"
CCP included info on the Wormholes to tell you how big the rist really is. Deal with it.
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Karim alRashid
Gallente
Aliastra
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Posted - 2009.03.09 15:02:00 -
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Quote:
Your the reason McDonald's has to put warnings on coffee cups saying "This cup is hot!"
This.
Quote:
Not "noob kindergarden"
This.
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not "raven solo me heaven"
This.
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not "easy bucks for whiners"
And this.
Also, one can always eject from his faction fitted carebearmobile at a safespot, bookmark it, pod himself home, get in a covops and start probing, hoping to find the same system.
Before others do it. 
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Tuberider
Caldari
Pothouse Cartel
IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2009.03.09 15:44:00 -
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second day stuck in wh space for me, i gots 15 sigs in less than 2 au and a wormhole in there somewhere lol.
you can solo alot in a sleipnir,all ya needs is a hauler alt, a big supply of ammo, blue boosters and your sorted for a while
i can't wait for this to hit the main server its going too cause so much lolz
BEST EXPANSION EVER nice one ccp 
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achoura
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Posted - 2009.03.09 15:48:00 -
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Ccp said they wanted people to get lost, not stuck in wormholes.
Stuck, not because they died, but because the probe system is still a long way from ready but yes, until it's sorted this really is going to be amusing. Anyone handeling petitions should be on double-time tomorrow
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Mikal Drey
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.03.09 15:54:00 -
[58]
hey hey
although most has been said already could you use this mass effect to deliberatly collapse the wormhole by jumping in and out to reduce the mass. once your in then the less competition you have the better ?
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Wild Winnie
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Posted - 2009.03.09 15:58:00 -
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To all Trolls, go frack yourself and let the grownups post here.
To the rest whos consered or not, lets get some real fact and figures on the table.
How long does it take on average to scan your way out of a WH from 0.0 space
(i couldn give a rats ass about highsec)
If its an average 1-2h then fine.
If its 10-20h it sucks.
If it takes 20h and everyone can ransome the people inside threthening to close the exit if they dont get 100mill, then is sucks donkeyballs.
Unless you have a number. DONT POST HERE!!!!
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Tuberider
Caldari
Pothouse Cartel
IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2009.03.09 16:02:00 -
[60]
Edited by: Tuberider on 09/03/2009 16:03:47
Edited by: Tuberider on 09/03/2009 16:03:16
probe number 69 i figured i'd give up for the day after that [:p:]
and yes wormhole collapsing for ransom will happen alot i think
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