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Lord TYMAN You're Doing It Wrong	Posted - 2009.03.11 00:24:00 - [1] Ur hai guiz. Just thought I'd share with you my experiences today. Almost lost my sanity trying to get a lock on one of these wormhole fellas, took me about 2 hours to finally get through. Had a nosey around, took on one of these sleeper BS chaps. Theres no shield, just an armor buffer tank and some nifty damage. Picked up the lewt...checked scanner - holy fck where did that 12 man gang come from. LOVE the new local system - adds a completely new dimension to PvP and makes it far more realistic Sharp exit. Get the boys together, lets go see if that gangs still there - also wanted to try out the bubble on my devoter for the first time Wondered around, then went back and bubbled the wormhole. Managed to pop a few frigs and pods. Scanners indicated there was only a lone Guardian left in the system. Almost snared him a few times as he warped from planet to planet. Then he finally gave up and logged. Checked the status of the wormhole before we left.... "This wormhole has had its stability critically disrupted by the mass of numerous ships passing through and is on the verge of collapse." Thought, that poor guardian chap probably doesn't have a scan launcher on his ship. Proceeded to spam the wormhole with traffic, making it collapse, leaving the logged off Guardian pilot to his fate when he decides to come back :) Love the patch so far :) Cheers.
Gekkoh Caldari 22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit	Posted - 2009.03.11 00:30:00 - [2] Using in-game mechanics to beat lame meta-game mechanics. I approve!
Lord TYMAN You're Doing It Wrong	Posted - 2009.03.11 00:31:00 - [3] my alt just finished spamming the WH to make it collapse.... had a 50/50 chance of ending up in low sec but..... 00:29:14 Notify As you pass through the wormhole you realize that it collapses behind you.Have you become trapped? FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2009.03.11 00:31:00 - [4] This story warms my heart. - DesuSigs
Lord TYMAN You're Doing It Wrong	Posted - 2009.03.11 01:08:00 - [5] Lol alt finally found another WH... led to... another WH system
Monkey Saturday Fear Inc	Posted - 2009.03.11 01:10:00 - [6] Sounds like a good tiem! --------
B0NECRUSHER Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2009.03.11 01:10:00 - [7] "50mil or we will collapse this WH"
Lord TYMAN You're Doing It Wrong	Posted - 2009.03.11 01:11:00 - [8] Originally by: B0NECRUSHER "50mil or we will collapse this WH" lawl and a new form of exploitation has been born
Lord TYMAN You're Doing It Wrong	Posted - 2009.03.11 01:12:00 - [9] Originally by: B0NECRUSHER "50mil or we will collapse this WH" Lol 50m and you can warp to us and exit out of this WH (quote DOES NOT INCLUDE informing victim of the other half of the fleet on the other side of the WH)
Baron Agamemnon Caldari Holy Grail Construction	Posted - 2009.03.11 01:14:00 - [10] Originally by: Lord TYMAN Lol alt finally found another WH... led to... another WH system At least you did not end up in the middle of hostile 0.0 :)
FreddyMac	Posted - 2009.03.11 02:15:00 - [11] While thats awesome, I bet this tactic leads to the removal/nerfing of the whole wormhole colapses due to mass mechanic. To many people will grief that way me thinks, and CCP will remove it, leaving WH's to be a timed colapse. Althogh this tactic seems so obvious, I dont see how CCP could not have forseen this being used so maybe its working as intended?
TimMc Gallente The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2009.03.11 02:20:00 - [12] This thread delivers.
Jinx Barker Caldari GFB Scientific	Posted - 2009.03.11 02:23:00 - [13] Ai m surprised people do not fit cloaks when to go in, I mean you have to plan for bad things to happen in W space. ::::Click The Signature For the Blog::::
Kiviar Caldari Bloodmoney Incorporated	Posted - 2009.03.11 02:23:00 - [14] I've already made a small fortune selling the bookmarks after the main wormhole has gone bybye. --- Certified elite hull tanker.
Lord TYMAN You're Doing It Wrong	Posted - 2009.03.11 10:40:00 - [15] Originally by: FreddyMac While thats awesome, I bet this tactic leads to the removal/nerfing of the whole wormhole colapses due to mass mechanic. To many people will grief that way me thinks, and CCP will remove it, leaving WH's to be a timed colapse. Althogh this tactic seems so obvious, I dont see how CCP could not have forseen this being used so maybe its working as intended? I think it's a wonderful mechanic that stops BLOBS from entering the WH space and basically forces a small gang pvp environment with no Local. A pvper's dream!!! Drooool
Malcanis R.E.C.O.N. Dara Cothrom	Posted - 2009.03.11 11:02:00 - [16] Originally by: Lord TYMAN Originally by: FreddyMac While thats awesome, I bet this tactic leads to the removal/nerfing of the whole wormhole colapses due to mass mechanic. To many people will grief that way me thinks, and CCP will remove it, leaving WH's to be a timed colapse. Althogh this tactic seems so obvious, I dont see how CCP could not have forseen this being used so maybe its working as intended? I think it's a wonderful mechanic that stops BLOBS from entering the WH space and basically forces a small gang pvp environment with no Local. A pvper's dream!!! Drooool Can't be true! Rells has already told us that W-space IS FOR CAREBEARS PVP IS DEAD!!!1
Commoner Caldari The Tuskers	Posted - 2009.03.11 11:13:00 - [17] We actually ransomed a pod which was lost in WH space for an exit. We allowed him to gang up with us, and warp to an exit worhmhole for the small fee of 50m isk! Yarrr, great tusker night :P
Hugh Ruka Exploratio et Industria Morispatia	Posted - 2009.03.11 11:19:00 - [18] yes, that's what I am planning to do ... screw the NPCs and stuff ... finaly a nice PvP playground without nasty local :-) --- SIG --- CSM: your support is needed !
kutznutzov	Posted - 2009.03.11 11:40:00 - [19] quick question ... sort of on topic. if you pirate / kill in WH Space do you still lose the standings you'd lose pirating elsewhere? maybe a newb question, but never having been a pirate I really don't know the mechanics. thanks
Brixer Dai Dai Hai	Posted - 2009.03.11 11:43:00 - [20] Edited by: Brixer on 11/03/2009 11:45:17 Originally by: FreddyMac While thats awesome, I bet this tactic leads to the removal/nerfing of the whole wormhole colapses due to mass mechanic. To many people will grief that way me thinks, and CCP will remove it, leaving WH's to be a timed colapse. Althogh this tactic seems so obvious, I dont see how CCP could not have forseen this being used so maybe its working as intended? There is a safeguard against to much greifing on collapsing WHs already. Try to jump in, out, then in again. If someone say they jumped in and out 10 times to close the WH they would have been around that WH for quite some time. (Unless using carrier..)
Bimjo Caldari SKULLDOGS	Posted - 2009.03.11 11:46:00 - [21] Originally by: FreddyMac While thats awesome, I bet this tactic leads to the removal/nerfing of the whole wormhole colapses due to mass mechanic. To many people will grief that way me thinks, and CCP will remove it, leaving WH's to be a timed colapse. Althogh this tactic seems so obvious, I dont see how CCP could not have forseen this being used so maybe its working as intended? They put in a "4 min timer per ship" I think, you can jump 3 times then timer kicks in,or similar,to stop WH spam collapse ====================
Victor Valka Caldari Kissaki Corporation	Posted - 2009.03.11 11:46:00 - [22] Originally by: Malcanis Can't be true! Rells has already told us that W-space IS FOR CAREBEARS PVP IS DEAD!!!1 C'est impossible! Rells' EVE Online god of PvP! What he says must be true! Originally by: Spaztick You are not outnumbered, you are in a target-rich environment.
Victor Valka Caldari Kissaki Corporation	Posted - 2009.03.11 11:47:00 - [23] Originally by: Commoner We actually ransomed a pod which was lost in WH space for an exit. We allowed him to gang up with us, and warp to an exit worhmhole for the small fee of 50m isk! Yarrr, great tusker night :P Awesome! Originally by: Spaztick You are not outnumbered, you are in a target-rich environment.
Malcanis R.E.C.O.N. Dara Cothrom	Posted - 2009.03.11 11:53:00 - [24] Originally by: Victor Valka Originally by: Malcanis Can't be true! Rells has already told us that W-space IS FOR CAREBEARS PVP IS DEAD!!!1 C'est impossible! Rells' EVE Online god of PvP! What he says must be true! Absolutely. The only possible resolution to this dilemma is that the OP is a lying Blizzard astroturfer.
Malcanis R.E.C.O.N. Dara Cothrom	Posted - 2009.03.11 11:55:00 - [25] Originally by: kutznutzov quick question ... sort of on topic. if you pirate / kill in WH Space do you still lose the standings you'd lose pirating elsewhere? maybe a newb question, but never having been a pirate I really don't know the mechanics. thanks No, W-space is basically 0.0 in this respect.
MilowFV Echo Heavy Industries	Posted - 2009.03.11 12:06:00 - [26] Not sure why anyone would call this an exploit I think its a great idea and I am sure CCP figure a group might collapse a WH on purpose when they were looking at things. As it was one of the first things that came up in our corp after we chat about how they worked. Great job trapping the guy.
Khamous Neo Spartans	Posted - 2009.03.11 12:15:00 - [27] I think it's great... If you're not compos mentis enough to bring a prober in with your gang then you deserve to get caught out. Your prober should always be the first in and last out.
Letrange Minmatar 17th Tower Apoapsis Multiversal Consortium	Posted - 2009.03.11 12:16:00 - [28] To all those thinking Lord TYMAN was using an exploit: Grow up people this tactic was discussed well in advance on the sisi forum and was considered totally valid as there will always be at least one wormhole that can be found in a wormhole system that exits that system. So shutting down existing wormholes on purpose is considered a totally valid tactic. People this is 0.0 security level. If you're not prepared you'll get reamed. CCP even put in a delay for single ships using this tactic so that Lord TYMAN probably had to wait a few minutes after every 2 jumps for his ship to be able to jump again. Deal. Well done Lord TYMAN.
Sir Ibex	Posted - 2009.03.11 12:20:00 - [29] I thought CCP said earlier that it will be possible for people to explore some of these wormholes without being worried about getting attacked about other players... Guess they lied.
Podee Something Squishy	Posted - 2009.03.11 12:27:00 - [30] Originally by: Sir Ibex I thought CCP said earlier that it will be possible for people to explore some of these wormholes without being worried about getting attacked about other players... Guess they lied. Cam I lick your carebear tears? They must taste good... I'm in Ur Threadz deralin ur Postz

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