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Perseus D'Solos
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Posted - 2009.03.11 18:24:00 -
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Edited by: Perseus D''Solos on 11/03/2009 18:24:26
Edited by: Perseus D''Solos on 11/03/2009 18:24:04
...because everyone I know, including myself, tend to sort their modules, ammo, drones, and what-not, into containers, and guess what? Loading saved fittings doesn't fetch said modules etc, from said containers...
Fix please, or the energy that went into the spiffy new fitting system will have been wasted for most. I mean, I will NOT suffer having 800 odd stacks directly in my hangar. The performance gain when shigting items and opening ahngars and containers would at the very least be impacted if I had, and reprocessing crap loot? Oh the pain...
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Tamahra
Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2009.03.11 18:25:00 -
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 Originally by: Perseus D'Solos
Edited by: Perseus D''Solos on 11/03/2009 18:24:26
Edited by: Perseus D''Solos on 11/03/2009 18:24:04
...because everyone I know, including myself, tend to sort their modules, ammo, drones, and what-not, into containers, and guess what? Loading saved fittings doesn't fetch said modules etc, from said containers...
Fix please, or the energy that went into the spiffy new fitting system will have been wasted for most. I mean, I will NOT suffer having 800 odd stacks directly in my hangar. The performance gain when shigting items and opening ahngars and containers would at the very least be impacted if I had, and reprocessing crap loot? Oh the pain...
i havent tried the feature for saving fittings yet, but if it doesnt fetch modules from containers then its completely useless for me too
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Perseus D'Solos
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Posted - 2009.03.11 18:31:00 -
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I sort of anticipated this problem, because it's so very very obvious, but that's not an excuse IMHO.
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Clive Bierte
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Posted - 2009.03.11 18:35:00 -
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Maybe CCP could seed a BPO for a special container just for this purpose.
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Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.03.11 18:35:00 -
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Well one might say that the primary reason people sorted all thier *****ble stuff into cans was to make it easier to fit a ship. Maybe just dump it all out into the hanger now though it would be nice if the new mechanic could use stuff in cans.
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Tamahra
Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2009.03.11 18:37:00 -
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Originally by: Clive Bierte
Maybe CCP could seed a BPO for a special container just for this purpose.
that would be a good idea
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tailboom3
Ever Flow
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2009.03.11 18:38:00 -
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I agree...
Also why can't I see market values for modules from a saved fit? I mean what if I don't have that module in stock? Why must i go to the market then search from the item then buy it?
Come on CCP. Do you guys even play the game?
--tb.
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Killshot DeathBunny
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Posted - 2009.03.11 18:40:00 -
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Even just dumped into main hanger it failed to work properly for me last night.
Kept saying it couldn't find the equipment that was there and there was no room for it?
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Zaerlorth Maelkor
The Maverick Navy
PuPPet MasTers
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Posted - 2009.03.11 18:43:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba
Edited by: Zeba on 11/03/2009 18:37:59
Well one might say that the primary reason people sorted all thier *****ble stuff into cans was to make it easier to fit a ship. Maybe just dump it all out into the hanger now though it would be nice if the new mechanic could use stuff in cans.
That may have been primary reason, but what about secondary and tertiary reasons? Such as keeping useful stuff seperated from crap that needs reprocessing, and other crap that can be sold for decent prices?
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Esamir
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Posted - 2009.03.11 18:55:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba
errm why is the word fitta censored? The Google shows nothing. 
Swedish for dong or something.
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Tippia
Raddick Explorations
BlackWater.
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Posted - 2009.03.11 18:58:00 -
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Originally by: Esamir
Originally by: Zeba
errm why is the word fitta censored? The Google shows nothing.
Swedish for dong or something.
No, for the other gender's… stuff… 
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Ms Delerium
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Posted - 2009.03.11 19:00:00 -
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Edited by: Ms Delerium on 11/03/2009 19:00:48
then just keep your items over the plain hangar??
The fitting-tool will take them automatically so who cares about cans, you dont need them any more...
imho
then only disadvantage is when you want to move your ship and items to other stations... haha
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digital0verdose
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.03.11 19:00:00 -
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This problem is a good example of why being able to have more than 1 tab per station would be such an awesome thing.
All I want is 3 tabs. Market Fodder, Keepers and Ships
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Miyamoto Uroki
Caldari
Katsu Corporation
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Posted - 2009.03.11 19:03:00 -
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For me there is another, far more urgent reason why it's not that useful:
You cannot fit corp fittings out of corphangar. Even without containers. How crappy is that? ^^
For the containers issue: I don't think CCP will enable this, as it probably will get a heavy extra load on the database, as every container is a sheet and contains its own links to the items inside. Or something like this. But as it always takes pretty long for the container content to load upon opening, I'm pretty sure it creates some load on the database.
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DaxSnake
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Posted - 2009.03.11 19:07:00 -
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there should have been an alliance option too.
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Ruze
Amarr
No Applicable Corporation
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Posted - 2009.03.11 19:08:00 -
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I don't think I've ever used the jukebox.
Science and industry screen, either.
The bounty hunting shop. And reprocessing plant.
These are all useless to me. I have absolutely no interest in using them.
Maybe they should take them out. I'm certain I'm not the only person who these functions are useless for.
Before Wormholes
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Perseus D'Solos
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Posted - 2009.03.11 19:10:00 -
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Edited by: Perseus D''Solos on 11/03/2009 19:11:26
I like the idea of having tabs in one's personal hangar, just like corp hangars have... That would be awesome, and would mean I didn't use nearly as many cans as I do now.
And oh, yeah, f itta is the swedish word for the female "stuff". Ironically, most swedes I've met in eve use that word as slang for "fitting" 
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DNSBLACK
Gallente
Dirt Nap Squad
Dirt Nap Associates
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Posted - 2009.03.11 19:11:00 -
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Well i for one keep everything out in the open i only put **** to be reprocessed in a can. I cant tell you how many times i have been in 0.0 and a mate of mine need something and it was in a can and I couldnt find it to contract him. I keep all my stuff in the open and i keep it down to what i need on an effective fit for the ships i fly. I love the feature for the pure fact it has increased my return to space. I woouldlike it expanded to the idea below
What i like to see is it attached to the market of the station you are in so if you dont have the item in your locker and it is on the market you can purchase all items needed at once and fit them at the same time. That would allow you to use your item locker and market at the same time.
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brinelan
Caldari
Victory Not Vengeance
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Posted - 2009.03.11 19:16:00 -
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Ah yes, the "i dont use it so its useless" rant. Well, some of us like to be able to fit several of the same ships without having to dig through piles of junk. Its quite necessary when you lose a ship in a gang and forgot to refit your spares... 
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Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.03.11 19:20:00 -
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Originally by: Zaerlorth Maelkor
Originally by: Zeba
Edited by: Zeba on 11/03/2009 18:37:59
Well one might say that the primary reason people sorted all thier *****ble stuff into cans was to make it easier to fit a ship. Maybe just dump it all out into the hanger now though it would be nice if the new mechanic could use stuff in cans.
That may have been primary reason, but what about secondary and tertiary reasons? Such as keeping useful stuff seperated from crap that needs reprocessing, and other crap that can be sold for decent prices?
Well obviously since you won't be fitting that stuff to your ship it can stay in the can? 
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Tippia
Raddick Explorations
BlackWater.
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Posted - 2009.03.11 19:30:00 -
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Edited by: Tippia on 11/03/2009 19:32:36
Originally by: brinelan
Well, some of us like to be able to fit several of the same ships without having to dig through piles of junk. Its quite necessary when you lose a ship in a gang and forgot to refit your spares...
Yes, but this tool requires you to have a pile of junk, which many of us dislike.
It's not a matter of "it's useless because I don't use it" — it's a matter of "it's useless because I can't use it." Important difference.
That said, I kind of understand why they haven't included any can functionality. It's kind of the opposite of why we don't have a "launch drones" shortcut: there's no way for the game to know what goes where and what we actually want. If you quick-load a setup, old modules have to go somewhere — presumably into a can for us OCD types… but which can? How should the game know that I want my modules in my .Equipment can (preferably repackaged) and my drones, charges, scripts and ammo in my .Ammo can?
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Zeko Rena
Caldari
Tankt
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Posted - 2009.03.11 19:34:00 -
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Uh, i think your missing the whole point, with this new fitting window and being able too save fittings you dont need containers anymore... duh
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Chomin H'ak
Integrated Takeovers
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Posted - 2009.03.11 19:37:00 -
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Well, you could...
1. Fill up a hauler with tons of mods.
2. Park said hauler in a nearby station.
3. Run back to 'home' and pick up a ship you would like fit.
4. Dock in secondary station, fit up and save your fitting.
5. Rinse, repeat as necessary. (Remembering to restock your stockpile.)
Then you'd have a place to fit and a place for your acres and acres of station containers (I wonder if the cargo capacity of the stations is kinda like the GSC's considering how many I alone has...  )
Of course this doesn't account for CCP slacking on the job and not taking the time to see their patch through completely imo. We shouldn't have to sandbox around the bugs.
Originally by: Frenden Dax
My heart hopes that people aren't that stupid, but my experiences thus far suggest otherwise.
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Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.03.11 19:39:00 -
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Originally by: Zeko Rena
Uh, i think your missing the whole point, with this new fitting window and being able too save fittings you dont need containers anymore... duh
Unfortunatly having a floor full of junk is not very effecient when your trying to sort through the new loot from a mission/gank though I guess that could moastly be done from the cargohold window.
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Zeko Rena
Caldari
Tankt
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Posted - 2009.03.11 19:41:00 -
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Edited by: Zeko Rena on 11/03/2009 19:41:21
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Zeko Rena
Uh, i think your missing the whole point, with this new fitting window and being able too save fittings you dont need containers anymore... duh
Unfortunatly having a floor full of junk is not very effecient when your trying to sort through the new loot from a mission/gank though I guess that could moastly be done from the cargohold window.
This is true, but if you mostly use Tech II then its alot easier to sort mission loot, with that said though it is a bad idea to usually have all your gear for your ships in a station that your going to be dropping of loot at.
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Mr Sean
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Posted - 2009.03.11 19:42:00 -
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Originally by: Ruze
I don't think I've ever used the jukebox.
Science and industry screen, either.
The bounty hunting shop. And reprocessing plant.
These are all useless to me. I have absolutely no interest in using them.
Maybe they should take them out. I'm certain I'm not the only person who these functions are useless for.
lmao you made my morning with that one :P
Wonder why OP hasn't thought of naming a can "my modules" or something, open can, control+a to select all, drop in hanger, load saved ship fitting, then pop un-used stuff back into can. Not that complex.
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digital0verdose
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.03.11 19:51:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Sean
Originally by: Ruze
I don't think I've ever used the jukebox.
Science and industry screen, either.
The bounty hunting shop. And reprocessing plant.
These are all useless to me. I have absolutely no interest in using them.
Maybe they should take them out. I'm certain I'm not the only person who these functions are useless for.
lmao you made my morning with that one :P
Wonder why OP hasn't thought of naming a can "my modules" or something, open can, control+a to select all, drop in hanger, load saved ship fitting, then pop un-used stuff back into can. Not that complex.
But still clunky. Just because there are workarounds it doesn't make the initial issue moot, it just allows fanboys or dissenters to make comments that add little to nothing to the discussion on how to improve.
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Allister Feind
Amarr
V I R I I
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Posted - 2009.03.11 19:59:00 -
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so store the junk you dont use on a regular basis in cans and keep your normal ship fittings in the hanger. if something is missing or in a can it will still set the ship up with what is availible and you can finish it off from there. you shouldnt need "800 odd stacks" for your usual ship fittings. even if you still have to drag and drop to fit your ship this fitting tool is still way better then the old style.
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5pinDizzy
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Posted - 2009.03.11 20:12:00 -
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Fitting tool would also be a lot less useful for me too since I organise stuff into containers also.
Far too much clutter to do otherwise if you have a main hangar.
But it's a nice addition for those that can take advantage of it.
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AKULA UrQuan
Caldari
Druuge Crimson Corporation
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Posted - 2009.03.11 20:25:00 -
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When the cluster is in a grumpy mood moveing a pile of stuff from a can to the hanger floor becomes an excercise in "self tourture". I use four cans named High, Medium, Low and Ammo with each containing a few hundred stacks on the low side. Nope, I'm not going to dump them into the hanger floor.
The feature is only really usefull for those that are into cookie-cutter fits anyway. Only use I have for it is quickly slapping on a glass-cannon fleet fit. Those stay the same long enough where saveing is an advantage. |
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