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redBusiness2
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Posted - 2009.03.11 20:25:00 -
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hello,
any idea whats up with mission rewards? I'm getting considerably lower LPs and ISK rewards, as if I had no bonus skills and I have all @ 4.
This is with the same agent I ran with just two days before the patch, and I have maxed standings with her.
If anybody knows about it please tell me, I tried to find stuff in patch notes and forum but didnt find anything, I appologize if this has already been covered.
Tnx
red
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VJ Maverick
Splinter Cell Alfa
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Posted - 2009.03.11 20:47:00 -
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Finally, the PvE carebears feel the nerf bat. This is a good thing.
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redBusiness2
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Posted - 2009.03.11 21:33:00 -
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Edited by: redBusiness2 on 11/03/2009 21:34:19
i expected a few of such lame predictable anwsers. you're boring.
if its indeed a nerf you'll just pay more for faction ammo and mods you might use,
i might turn my attention to 0.0 ratting or scanning for income for my pvp ships.
so can anybody confirm its a nerf? if so its aimed to convince people to do more exploration.
cheers
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Nadezhda Andropov
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Posted - 2009.03.11 21:45:00 -
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 Originally by: VJ Maverick
Finally, the PvE carebears feel the nerf bat. This is a good thing.
TBH what about the missile nerf? Literally everyone was upset by that little thing.
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Horchan
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.03.11 21:49:00 -
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Originally by: Nadezhda Andropov
TBH what about the missile nerf? Literally everyone was upset by that little thing.
Except those of us that refused to train flavor of the decade to fly Ravens and Drakes, and instead trained weapon systems that had other uses other than mission omgwtfpwnbbq.
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Nadezhda Andropov
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Posted - 2009.03.11 21:50:00 -
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Originally by: Horchan
Originally by: Nadezhda Andropov
TBH what about the missile nerf? Literally everyone was upset by that little thing.
Except those of us that refused to train flavor of the decade to fly Ravens and Drakes, and instead trained weapon systems that had other uses other than mission omgwtfpwnbbq.
I <3 my Paladin.
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VJ Maverick
Splinter Cell Alfa
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Posted - 2009.03.12 00:35:00 -
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Originally by: redBusiness2
Edited by: redBusiness2 on 11/03/2009 21:34:19
i expected a few of such lame predictable anwsers. you're boring.
if its indeed a nerf you'll just pay more for faction ammo and mods you might use,
so can anybody confirm its a nerf? if so its aimed to convince people to do more exploration.
cheers
I'm not boring. Mission running is boring. Furthermore, mission running was and still is a ridiculously easy way to make ISK come out of every orifice in your body. It is just too much money for little to no risk. I run missions. In fact, before I got into trading, missions were my primary source of income. And even as a mission runner I htink LV4's are way too easy and profitable. I'd be very happy to see mission running rewards severely nerfed. And no, I won't be paying more for faction ammo than anyone else.
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Avantu
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.03.12 01:43:00 -
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To answer the OPs question, Mission rewards/lps are not fixed, there is an mechanic in place that averages out the time taken to complete a mission and reward/lp is based on that.
With the patch the mission system has been changed considerably and so rewards were probably reset back to default lvls. You will probably notice the rewards changing over the next few days/weeks as more people run missions, settling eventually at a pre patch lvl.
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Patri Andari
Thukker Tribe Antiquities Importer
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Posted - 2009.03.12 02:12:00 -
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Originally by: VJ Maverick
Finally, the PvE carebears feel the nerf bat. This is a good thing.
Originally by: VJ Maverick
I run missions. In fact, before I got into trading, missions were my primary source of income.
You are an idiot.
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redBusiness2
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Posted - 2009.03.12 03:07:00 -
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Edited by: redBusiness2 on 12/03/2009 03:07:08
Avantu, thank you very much for clearing up the issue.
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VJ Maverick
Splinter Cell Alfa
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Posted - 2009.03.12 04:23:00 -
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Originally by: Patri Andari
Originally by: VJ Maverick
Finally, the PvE carebears feel the nerf bat. This is a good thing.
Originally by: VJ Maverick
I run missions. In fact, before I got into trading, missions were my primary source of income.
You are an idiot.
I'm calling you out. What about my statements makes me an idiot? Is it the contradiction you've created out of thin air by juxtaposing those two statements? I specifically admitted that I enage in PvE carebearing. And at the same time I think it should be nerfed. These two position are not mutually exclusive.
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Kaltar Bok
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Posted - 2009.03.12 05:10:00 -
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I don`t really get the missile nerf whines. My raven hulls and NH seem to be just as good as before, I think it`s just the underskilled that were effected really.
I also don`t get people bashing other peoples play styles. So what if people like boring missions, it`s their life. I never do them for the money anyway, just the controlled explosions.
I think that guy above was probably right, some kind of self-levelling thing is going on. Give it a few days and try again.
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Carniflex
Caldari
Fallout Research
Fallout Project
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Posted - 2009.03.12 06:09:00 -
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Dynamic rewards. During the major patches if they change something in mission it sometimes drops to 'default' values. However those few missions I have done so far have granted me approx same rewards as before patch so it most certainly was not 'reset' to all mission rewards.
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Esge Shala
Amarr
Amarrian Micro Devices
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Posted - 2009.03.12 06:50:00 -
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reduced rewards ? i've got lvl1 mission (pirate intrusion) for about 200k+200k and 200 lp
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Kery Nysell
Caldari
Nysell Incorporated
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Posted - 2009.03.12 12:34:00 -
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Originally by: VJ Maverick
Finally, the PvE carebears feel the nerf bat. This is a good thing.
Finally ? The nerf bat has been swinging at the missionbears for the last couple of years ...
And concerning the "reduced rewards", that's indeed the "dynamic rewards" mechanic kicking in, like it did for all major extensions/patches for the last 4 years (dunno before that, I only started playing in november 2004).
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K'uata Sayus
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Posted - 2009.03.12 15:13:00 -
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After running a number of missions, I faction fit a ship and wander into lo-sec. I get pwned and podded, and wake up in a clone vat.
That way I assuage the guilt of being a mission runner who makes too much Isk, and help support some poor piwate ganker who is scraping by blowing up noobs and the occasional dumb miner.
If more carebears would realize they have a debt to pay to Eve PvPers for being so lazy and rich, Eve would be a better place and everyone would get along a lot better.
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Thirzarr
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Posted - 2009.03.12 15:20:00 -
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Originally by: Kaltar Bok
I don`t really get the missile nerf whines. My raven hulls and NH seem to be just as good as before, I think it`s just the underskilled that were effected really.
Oh I felt it... my 7 Siege Launcher CNR felt it big time. *sigh* I miss my boom-boat. (I dont like killing things further than 40km from my current, bookmarked location anyways. For obvious reasons.)
Fortunately I spent a whole lot of time training all factions, so here I am going strong in a vargur nowadays.
Mission Rewards seem about same to me.
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FlyinS
Caldari
Planetary Industry and Trade Organization
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Posted - 2009.03.12 15:24:00 -
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Originally by: Kaltar Bok
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I also don`t get people bashing other peoples play styles. So what if people like boring missions, it`s their life.
How else would they have to measure their e-peen? Somehow people actually think it makes them more "cool" to play a different part of the game more than another person. I just chuckle when I think about how far that's going to take them in life.
Originally by: K'uata Sayus
After running a number of missions, I faction fit a ship and wander into lo-sec. I get pwned and podded, and wake up in a clone vat.
That way I assuage the guilt of being a mission runner who makes too much Isk, and help support some poor piwate ganker who is scraping by blowing up noobs and the occasional dumb miner.
If more carebears would realize they have a debt to pay to Eve PvPers for being so lazy and rich, Eve would be a better place and everyone would get along a lot better.
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Cade Morrigan
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.03.12 15:36:00 -
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Originally by: K'uata Sayus
After running a number of missions, I faction fit a ship and wander into lo-sec. I get pwned and podded, and wake up in a clone vat.
That way I assuage the guilt of being a mission runner who makes too much Isk, and help support some poor piwate ganker who is scraping by blowing up noobs and the occasional dumb miner.
If more carebears would realize they have a debt to pay to Eve PvPers for being so lazy and rich, Eve would be a better place and everyone would get along a lot better.
i never thought about it that way before, damn, i feel bad that i like to keep/use my mission money for myself. i should stop enjoying EVE and begin to ensure that my play style and play time directly benefit others. I feel ... free now. |
wertgqwergqerg
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Posted - 2009.03.13 18:13:00 -
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Originally by: VJ Maverick
Finally, the PvE carebears feel the nerf bat. This is a good thing.
Translated: "I feel better when people who don't play a video game exactly as I choose to get nerfed."
or...
Translated: "I'm not actually very good at what I do, so when others are artificially lessened, I feel much better about myself"
Has anyone every noticed that when these mental midgets get nerfed in any way, theres always two reactions: Whine...blame the "carebears"
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wertgqwergqerg
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Posted - 2009.03.13 18:17:00 -
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Originally by: Horchan
Except those of us that refused to train flavor of the decade to fly Ravens and Drakes, and instead trained weapon systems that had other uses other than mission omgwtfpwnbbq.
So now that lasers are the "mission omgwtfpwnbbq'n flavor of the decade", you'll run right out and train missles?
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2009.03.13 18:57:00 -
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Originally by: wertgqwergqerg
Originally by: Horchan
Except those of us that refused to train flavor of the decade to fly Ravens and Drakes, and instead trained weapon systems that had other uses other than mission omgwtfpwnbbq.
So now that lasers are the "mission omgwtfpwnbbq'n flavor of the decade", you'll run right out and train missles?
lasers were always good. and then great when used on the right targets.
missiles are still fine. they just don't work as well as they did with 500k sp in them.... (god I miss my torp cnr that could hit out to my lock range with 900k sp in missiles.)
and yes, I use both. t2 large lasers and cruise/torps.
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wertgqwergqerg
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Posted - 2009.03.13 18:57:00 -
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Originally by: VJ Maverick
I'm not boring.
Well apparently our view of you differs from your view of you.
Originally by: VJ Maverick
Mission running is boring.
That's your opinion, and as such, you have the option to exercise it by not running missions.
Originally by: VJ Maverick
Furthermore, mission running was and still is a ridiculously easy way to make ISK come out of every orifice in your body.
Along with belt ratting in alliance space, mining in alliance space, complex farming in alliance space, mining in high sec, trading in high sec. Wow. We should just eliminate everything but pirating and mission-running/mining in low-sec. That way you billy-bad-azz internet tough guys have more "risky" targets.
Originally by: VJ Maverick
It is just too much money for little to no risk.
It would seem that your view, once again, differs from not only a significant percentage of Eve's playerbase...but also from CCPs.
Originally by: VJ Maverick
I run missions/missions were my primary source of income.
You carebear, you.
Originally by: VJ Maverick
In fact, before I got into trading
Your new risky venture, eh? I can feel the goosebumps...
Originally by: VJ Maverick
And even as a mission runner I htink LV4's are way too easy and profitable.
Run them in a Destroyer.
Originally by: VJ Maverick
I'd be very happy to see mission running rewards severely nerfed.
I'd be very happy to see your keyboard break.
Originally by: VJ Maverick
And no, I won't be paying more for faction ammo than anyone else.
Just in case we thought you were relevant enough to ask.....
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VJ Maverick
Splinter Cell Alfa
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Posted - 2009.03.13 19:41:00 -
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Edited by: VJ Maverick on 13/03/2009 19:41:41
Originally by: wertgqwergqerg
random mouth foaming...
Wow, dude. I think you taking such an exhaustive approach to dissecting what I would consider to be a fairly straight-forward and reasonable position on the subject truly demonstrates which one of us has the problem. Sorry your game is broken. Maybe after you're done crying, you can join my guild in hello Kitty Online.
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Gwen Ingolffson
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Posted - 2009.03.13 19:52:00 -
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I've not done a mission since I found my first wormhole and got a percentage of the loot from the heavy hitters who took advantage of it.
I think wormhole scouting is going to be a fine new profession for me. :)
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wertgqwergqerg
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Posted - 2009.03.14 03:43:00 -
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Edited by: wertgqwergqerg on 14/03/2009 03:43:02
Originally by: VJ Maverick
Wow, dude. I think you just demonstrated which one of us has the problem.
That's right. I did. Try to keep up.
Originally by: VJ Maverick
Sorry your game is broken.
Let me get this right....you have complaints about Eve missions, but my game is broken....
Originally by: VJ Maverick
Maybe after you're done crying
The only complaints listed were by....oh that's right....you!
Originally by: VJ Maverick
you can join my guild in Hello Kitty Online.
And listen to your whining on two forums?
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VJ Maverick
Splinter Cell Alfa
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Posted - 2009.03.14 09:41:00 -
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So where did you download the PeeWee Herman Insult Ienerator from?
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Abigail101
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Posted - 2009.03.14 18:11:00 -
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Hehe, I've just noticed the bonus timer on the mission I'm doing to mine 425 untis of Chartruese Cytoserocin - 11 minutes.
Now, I'll admit that I'm not the most efficient gas cloud miner in existence but I doubt that that is physically possible 
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Korrakas
Caldari
Legion of Ascension
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Posted - 2009.03.14 20:35:00 -
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VJ quit while your ahead man, EPIX Burns were inflicted upon your sorry a$$
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VJ Maverick
Splinter Cell Alfa
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Posted - 2009.03.14 23:29:00 -
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Originally by: Korrakas
VJ quit while your ahead man, EPIX Burns were inflicted upon your sorry a$$
Ahead in what? I didn't realize that this was a race for the most epic strawman. So far, that's what these EPIX burns are. Taking apart what I said and spinning them into a context clearly not supported by the original discussion. These EPIX burns are premised on rhetorical positions I never took or just outright personal insults.
For example, I cannot possibly be the one complaining here. Everything about a potential nerf to profitability of PvE makes me very happy. Therefore, I don't know how I have been pigeonholed (transparently so) into the role of being the whiny complainer. If you really read what I said, the opposite is true. I personally rejoice in any potential adjustment to PvE rewards which would make mission running less lucrative. And no, that's not logically equivalent to complaining about it. Wertgqwergqerg is obviously a dedicated activist. But he's being intellectually dishonest by obfuscating the real issue with with quote mining rhetoric that could only work in the perception of the intellectually infirm.
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