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Joke Off	Posted - 2004.08.16 02:39:00 - [1] Megathron & Dominix versus a bunch of cruisers - who wins ? How many cruiser could a Megathron & Dominix take at a time and survive assuming the cruisers are piloted by nOObs who have been in EVE in 07-01-04 ? Just curious...
Joke Off	Posted - 2004.08.16 02:39:00 - [2] Megathron & Dominix versus a bunch of cruisers - who wins ? How many cruiser could a Megathron & Dominix take at a time and survive assuming the cruisers are piloted by nOObs who have been in EVE in 07-01-04 ? Just curious...
Joke Off	Posted - 2004.08.16 02:39:00 - [3] Megathron & Dominix versus a bunch of cruisers - who wins ? How many cruiser could a Megathron & Dominix take at a time and survive assuming the cruisers are piloted by nOObs who have been in EVE in 07-01-04 ? Just curious...
Liu Kaskakka	Posted - 2004.08.16 02:56:00 - [4] Originally by: Joke Off Megathron & Dominix versus a bunch of cruisers - who wins ? How many cruiser could a Megathron & Dominix take at a time and survive assuming the cruisers are piloted by nOObs who have been in EVE in 07-01-04 ? Just curious... You are asking this sh1te and calling someone else a noob in the same sentense .. Who would pwnz0riz3 if Daredevil and Batman were against Optimus Prime, Captain Planet and the teletubbies?
Liu Kaskakka	Posted - 2004.08.16 02:56:00 - [5] Originally by: Joke Off Megathron & Dominix versus a bunch of cruisers - who wins ? How many cruiser could a Megathron & Dominix take at a time and survive assuming the cruisers are piloted by nOObs who have been in EVE in 07-01-04 ? Just curious... You are asking this sh1te and calling someone else a noob in the same sentense .. Who would pwnz0riz3 if Daredevil and Batman were against Optimus Prime, Captain Planet and the teletubbies?
Liu Kaskakka PAK	Posted - 2004.08.16 02:56:00 - [6] Originally by: Joke Off Megathron & Dominix versus a bunch of cruisers - who wins ? How many cruiser could a Megathron & Dominix take at a time and survive assuming the cruisers are piloted by nOObs who have been in EVE in 07-01-04 ? Just curious... You are asking this sh1te and calling someone else a noob in the same sentense .. Who would pwnz0riz3 if Daredevil and Batman were against Optimus Prime, Captain Planet and the teletubbies? King Liu is RIGHT!!
Joke Off	Posted - 2004.08.16 03:00:00 - [7] Originally by: Liu Kaskakka Originally by: Joke Off Megathron & Dominix versus a bunch of cruisers - who wins ? How many cruiser could a Megathron & Dominix take at a time and survive assuming the cruisers are piloted by nOObs who have been in EVE in 07-01-04 ? Just curious... You are asking this sh1te and calling someone else a noob in the same sentense .. Who would pwnz0riz3 if Daredevil and Batman were against Optimus Prime, Captain Planet and the teletubbies? Your point being ?
Joke Off	Posted - 2004.08.16 03:00:00 - [8] Originally by: Liu Kaskakka Originally by: Joke Off Megathron & Dominix versus a bunch of cruisers - who wins ? How many cruiser could a Megathron & Dominix take at a time and survive assuming the cruisers are piloted by nOObs who have been in EVE in 07-01-04 ? Just curious... You are asking this sh1te and calling someone else a noob in the same sentense .. Who would pwnz0riz3 if Daredevil and Batman were against Optimus Prime, Captain Planet and the teletubbies? Your point being ?
Joke Off	Posted - 2004.08.16 03:00:00 - [9] Originally by: Liu Kaskakka Originally by: Joke Off Megathron & Dominix versus a bunch of cruisers - who wins ? How many cruiser could a Megathron & Dominix take at a time and survive assuming the cruisers are piloted by nOObs who have been in EVE in 07-01-04 ? Just curious... You are asking this sh1te and calling someone else a noob in the same sentense .. Who would pwnz0riz3 if Daredevil and Batman were against Optimus Prime, Captain Planet and the teletubbies? Your point being ?
Mimiru	Posted - 2004.08.16 03:11:00 - [10] there are so many trillions of different setups and situations that deciding who would win is an impossibility. <Ap0k> "MIM: Like Gangrenous Body Parts without the amputation!"
Mimiru	Posted - 2004.08.16 03:11:00 - [11] there are so many trillions of different setups and situations that deciding who would win is an impossibility. <Ap0k> "MIM: Like Gangrenous Body Parts without the amputation!"
Mimiru Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2004.08.16 03:11:00 - [12] there are so many trillions of different setups and situations that deciding who would win is an impossibility. ---------
Joke Off	Posted - 2004.08.16 03:34:00 - [13] Originally by: Mimiru there are so many trillions of different setups and situations that deciding who would win is an impossibility. Okay, I am sorry - let me fill in some details... Megathron: Drones (Pilot has skills to handle 9 drones L3 Heavy Drone Op) 2x Hammerhead 7x Praetor 2x Ogre Hi 5x 425mm Rails with Antimatter 1x Cruise Launcher with Cruise Missiles and F.O.F. Cruise 1x Siege Launcher with Cruise Missiles and F.O.F. Cruise and Torps 1x Notos Med SB Med 1x 100MN MWD 1x V-M15 Hardener 2x Cap Recharger II Lo 1x Med Armor Repairer II 1x Energized Regeriative Membrane I 1x Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane I 1x Co-Processor II 1x Tracking Enhancer II 1x Magnetic Field Stab II Dominix Drones (Pilot has skills to handle 11 drones L3 Heavy Drone Op) 8x Beserkers 3x Ogre Hi 5x 350mm Rails with Antimatter 1x Med Rudimentary SB Med 1x 100MN MWD 1x Tracking Computer II 3x Cap Recharger II Lo 1x Med Armor Repairer II 1x Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane I 1x Co-Processor II 2x PDU II 1x Tracking Enhancer II 1x Magnetic Field Stab II Cruisers Thorax with no Heavy Combat Drones and no MWD Caracal with heavy missiles NO EW ships at all to speak of I am just wondering how many Cruisers piloted by pilots with 6 weeks of skill pts the Mega and Dom can take without being in any real danger. Can anyone suggest any alternate Mega/Dom setups that would be more effective against a bunch of Cruisers piloted by peeps with 6 weeks of skills ? Just trying to learn something before we saddle-up and go hammer on some peeps in-game - don't worry this is a declared war... just playing the game ya know. Thx.
Joke Off	Posted - 2004.08.16 03:34:00 - [14] Originally by: Mimiru there are so many trillions of different setups and situations that deciding who would win is an impossibility. Okay, I am sorry - let me fill in some details... Megathron: Drones (Pilot has skills to handle 9 drones L3 Heavy Drone Op) 2x Hammerhead 7x Praetor 2x Ogre Hi 5x 425mm Rails with Antimatter 1x Cruise Launcher with Cruise Missiles and F.O.F. Cruise 1x Siege Launcher with Cruise Missiles and F.O.F. Cruise and Torps 1x Notos Med SB Med 1x 100MN MWD 1x V-M15 Hardener 2x Cap Recharger II Lo 1x Med Armor Repairer II 1x Energized Regeriative Membrane I 1x Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane I 1x Co-Processor II 1x Tracking Enhancer II 1x Magnetic Field Stab II Dominix Drones (Pilot has skills to handle 11 drones L3 Heavy Drone Op) 8x Beserkers 3x Ogre Hi 5x 350mm Rails with Antimatter 1x Med Rudimentary SB Med 1x 100MN MWD 1x Tracking Computer II 3x Cap Recharger II Lo 1x Med Armor Repairer II 1x Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane I 1x Co-Processor II 2x PDU II 1x Tracking Enhancer II 1x Magnetic Field Stab II Cruisers Thorax with no Heavy Combat Drones and no MWD Caracal with heavy missiles NO EW ships at all to speak of I am just wondering how many Cruisers piloted by pilots with 6 weeks of skill pts the Mega and Dom can take without being in any real danger. Can anyone suggest any alternate Mega/Dom setups that would be more effective against a bunch of Cruisers piloted by peeps with 6 weeks of skills ? Just trying to learn something before we saddle-up and go hammer on some peeps in-game - don't worry this is a declared war... just playing the game ya know. Thx.
Joke Off	Posted - 2004.08.16 03:34:00 - [15] Originally by: Mimiru there are so many trillions of different setups and situations that deciding who would win is an impossibility. Okay, I am sorry - let me fill in some details... Megathron: Drones (Pilot has skills to handle 9 drones L3 Heavy Drone Op) 2x Hammerhead 7x Praetor 2x Ogre Hi 5x 425mm Rails with Antimatter 1x Cruise Launcher with Cruise Missiles and F.O.F. Cruise 1x Siege Launcher with Cruise Missiles and F.O.F. Cruise and Torps 1x Notos Med SB Med 1x 100MN MWD 1x V-M15 Hardener 2x Cap Recharger II Lo 1x Med Armor Repairer II 1x Energized Regeriative Membrane I 1x Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane I 1x Co-Processor II 1x Tracking Enhancer II 1x Magnetic Field Stab II Dominix Drones (Pilot has skills to handle 11 drones L3 Heavy Drone Op) 8x Beserkers 3x Ogre Hi 5x 350mm Rails with Antimatter 1x Med Rudimentary SB Med 1x 100MN MWD 1x Tracking Computer II 3x Cap Recharger II Lo 1x Med Armor Repairer II 1x Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane I 1x Co-Processor II 2x PDU II 1x Tracking Enhancer II 1x Magnetic Field Stab II Cruisers Thorax with no Heavy Combat Drones and no MWD Caracal with heavy missiles NO EW ships at all to speak of I am just wondering how many Cruisers piloted by pilots with 6 weeks of skill pts the Mega and Dom can take without being in any real danger. Can anyone suggest any alternate Mega/Dom setups that would be more effective against a bunch of Cruisers piloted by peeps with 6 weeks of skills ? Just trying to learn something before we saddle-up and go hammer on some peeps in-game - don't worry this is a declared war... just playing the game ya know. Thx.
Golgrath	Posted - 2004.08.16 03:50:00 - [16] Quote: 1x V-M15 Hardener the cruisers would win.
Golgrath	Posted - 2004.08.16 03:50:00 - [17] Quote: 1x V-M15 Hardener the cruisers would win.
Golgrath Minmatar Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2004.08.16 03:50:00 - [18] Quote: 1x V-M15 Hardener the cruisers would win.
Cutter John	Posted - 2004.08.16 03:56:00 - [19] are you serious with those setups? look over what you got there and think a bit about what you have. a multispectral shield hardener on an armor tank(multispecs blow btw. look at the cap use)? only medium armor repairers? energized regenerative plating? tracking comp AND enhancers? My Idea Thread Give Drones Love!
Cutter John	Posted - 2004.08.16 03:56:00 - [20] are you serious with those setups? look over what you got there and think a bit about what you have. a multispectral shield hardener on an armor tank(multispecs blow btw. look at the cap use)? only medium armor repairers? energized regenerative plating? tracking comp AND enhancers? My Idea Thread Give Drones Love!
Cutter John TARDZ Gods of Night and Day	Posted - 2004.08.16 03:56:00 - [21] are you serious with those setups? look over what you got there and think a bit about what you have. a multispectral shield hardener on an armor tank(multispecs blow btw. look at the cap use)? only medium armor repairers? energized regenerative plating? tracking comp AND enhancers?
Mimiru	Posted - 2004.08.16 04:01:00 - [22] Edited by: Mimiru on 16/08/2004 04:04:40 As long as the cruisers have no EW the BS should own. The only problem i could see would be if there were like 6 of the caracals all spamming heavy missiles. They could, prehaps, manage to down 1 bs before they died. Or a lot of blasterraxes, though since you said the raxs wouldnt have mwds this wouldnt be that much of a problem. Alternative setup for the dom could be 6 hvy nos, web, warp, mwd, armor tanked. Might want to give the thron a mid slot tracking comp II and drop the mwd, drop the named invuln field, no enrgized plates, use armor hardeners, use large rep and tech 2 med. <Ap0k> "MIM: Like Gangrenous Body Parts without the amputation!"
Mimiru	Posted - 2004.08.16 04:01:00 - [23] Edited by: Mimiru on 16/08/2004 04:04:40 As long as the cruisers have no EW the BS should own. The only problem i could see would be if there were like 6 of the caracals all spamming heavy missiles. They could, prehaps, manage to down 1 bs before they died. Or a lot of blasterraxes, though since you said the raxs wouldnt have mwds this wouldnt be that much of a problem. Alternative setup for the dom could be 6 hvy nos, web, warp, mwd, armor tanked. Might want to give the thron a mid slot tracking comp II and drop the mwd, drop the named invuln field, no enrgized plates, use armor hardeners, use large rep and tech 2 med. <Ap0k> "MIM: Like Gangrenous Body Parts without the amputation!"
Mimiru Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2004.08.16 04:01:00 - [24] Edited by: Mimiru on 16/08/2004 04:04:40 As long as the cruisers have no EW the BS should own. The only problem i could see would be if there were like 6 of the caracals all spamming heavy missiles. They could, prehaps, manage to down 1 bs before they died. Or a lot of blasterraxes, though since you said the raxs wouldnt have mwds this wouldnt be that much of a problem. Alternative setup for the dom could be 6 hvy nos, web, warp, mwd, armor tanked. Might want to give the thron a mid slot tracking comp II and drop the mwd, drop the named invuln field, no enrgized plates, use armor hardeners, use large rep and tech 2 med. ---------
Joke Off	Posted - 2004.08.16 04:09:00 - [25] Originally by: Mimiru Edited by: Mimiru on 16/08/2004 04:04:40 As long as the cruisers have no EW the BS should own. The only problem i could see would be if there were like 6 of the caracals all spamming heavy missiles. They could, prehaps, manage to down 1 bs before they died. Or a lot of blasterraxes, though since you said the raxs wouldnt have mwds this wouldnt be that much of a problem. Alternative setup for the dom could be 6 hvy nos, web, warp, mwd, armor tanked. Might want to give the thron a mid slot tracking comp II and drop the mwd, drop the named invuln field, no enrgized plates, use armor hardeners, use large rep and tech 2 med. Okay this is good feedback. When you say "use armor hardeners" are you referring to med slot armor hardeners ? Cuz I thought the Adaptive Nano Membrane with 15% resists to armor would do the trick in a Lo slot. I was thinking about slapping in a Large Energy Transfer Array and Large Shield Transfer in Hi slots instead of 2 Heavy Nos's to pump some shields and cap into the Megathron during battle and then let the Dom's 11 heavy drones do the talking for the Dom. Armor tanking the Dom would involve using Large Armor Rep and Med Armor Rep II in Lo slots, right ?
Joke Off	Posted - 2004.08.16 04:09:00 - [26] Originally by: Mimiru Edited by: Mimiru on 16/08/2004 04:04:40 As long as the cruisers have no EW the BS should own. The only problem i could see would be if there were like 6 of the caracals all spamming heavy missiles. They could, prehaps, manage to down 1 bs before they died. Or a lot of blasterraxes, though since you said the raxs wouldnt have mwds this wouldnt be that much of a problem. Alternative setup for the dom could be 6 hvy nos, web, warp, mwd, armor tanked. Might want to give the thron a mid slot tracking comp II and drop the mwd, drop the named invuln field, no enrgized plates, use armor hardeners, use large rep and tech 2 med. Okay this is good feedback. When you say "use armor hardeners" are you referring to med slot armor hardeners ? Cuz I thought the Adaptive Nano Membrane with 15% resists to armor would do the trick in a Lo slot. I was thinking about slapping in a Large Energy Transfer Array and Large Shield Transfer in Hi slots instead of 2 Heavy Nos's to pump some shields and cap into the Megathron during battle and then let the Dom's 11 heavy drones do the talking for the Dom. Armor tanking the Dom would involve using Large Armor Rep and Med Armor Rep II in Lo slots, right ?
Joke Off	Posted - 2004.08.16 04:09:00 - [27] Originally by: Mimiru Edited by: Mimiru on 16/08/2004 04:04:40 As long as the cruisers have no EW the BS should own. The only problem i could see would be if there were like 6 of the caracals all spamming heavy missiles. They could, prehaps, manage to down 1 bs before they died. Or a lot of blasterraxes, though since you said the raxs wouldnt have mwds this wouldnt be that much of a problem. Alternative setup for the dom could be 6 hvy nos, web, warp, mwd, armor tanked. Might want to give the thron a mid slot tracking comp II and drop the mwd, drop the named invuln field, no enrgized plates, use armor hardeners, use large rep and tech 2 med. Okay this is good feedback. When you say "use armor hardeners" are you referring to med slot armor hardeners ? Cuz I thought the Adaptive Nano Membrane with 15% resists to armor would do the trick in a Lo slot. I was thinking about slapping in a Large Energy Transfer Array and Large Shield Transfer in Hi slots instead of 2 Heavy Nos's to pump some shields and cap into the Megathron during battle and then let the Dom's 11 heavy drones do the talking for the Dom. Armor tanking the Dom would involve using Large Armor Rep and Med Armor Rep II in Lo slots, right ?
Mimiru	Posted - 2004.08.16 04:43:00 - [28] Edited by: Mimiru on 16/08/2004 04:44:59 Mid slot hardeners are sheild hardeners, low slot activateable hardeners are armor hardeners. They give 50% resist to one dmg type (use enough to try and get all resists to 60% or higher). You may also want to look into dropping something for a nice named 1600mm plate. Adding an extra 2k armor is nver a bad thing. Plus i have a few for sale cough Since you're armor tanking the thron theres no point to even worry about the sheilds. Depending on how noobish the cruisers are you could prolly kill most before your sheilds even go down. Personally i'd concentrate on making a strong tank rather than a big damage dealer. This is for two reasons, 1) if the enemies spring a trap on you somehow (such as getting a decent bs to fight with them) you'll be prepared and 2) cruisers go down fairly fast. You can basically rely on the drones for your total offense if you felt like it. sigh i've typed more here in like 5 minutes than i have on my homework in the last 3 hours <Ap0k> "MIM: Like Gangrenous Body Parts without the amputation!"
Mimiru	Posted - 2004.08.16 04:43:00 - [29] Edited by: Mimiru on 16/08/2004 04:44:59 Mid slot hardeners are sheild hardeners, low slot activateable hardeners are armor hardeners. They give 50% resist to one dmg type (use enough to try and get all resists to 60% or higher). You may also want to look into dropping something for a nice named 1600mm plate. Adding an extra 2k armor is nver a bad thing. Plus i have a few for sale cough Since you're armor tanking the thron theres no point to even worry about the sheilds. Depending on how noobish the cruisers are you could prolly kill most before your sheilds even go down. Personally i'd concentrate on making a strong tank rather than a big damage dealer. This is for two reasons, 1) if the enemies spring a trap on you somehow (such as getting a decent bs to fight with them) you'll be prepared and 2) cruisers go down fairly fast. You can basically rely on the drones for your total offense if you felt like it. sigh i've typed more here in like 5 minutes than i have on my homework in the last 3 hours <Ap0k> "MIM: Like Gangrenous Body Parts without the amputation!"
Mimiru Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2004.08.16 04:43:00 - [30] Edited by: Mimiru on 16/08/2004 04:44:59 Mid slot hardeners are sheild hardeners, low slot activateable hardeners are armor hardeners. They give 50% resist to one dmg type (use enough to try and get all resists to 60% or higher). You may also want to look into dropping something for a nice named 1600mm plate. Adding an extra 2k armor is nver a bad thing. Plus i have a few for sale cough Since you're armor tanking the thron theres no point to even worry about the sheilds. Depending on how noobish the cruisers are you could prolly kill most before your sheilds even go down. Personally i'd concentrate on making a strong tank rather than a big damage dealer. This is for two reasons, 1) if the enemies spring a trap on you somehow (such as getting a decent bs to fight with them) you'll be prepared and 2) cruisers go down fairly fast. You can basically rely on the drones for your total offense if you felt like it. sigh i've typed more here in like 5 minutes than i have on my homework in the last 3 hours ---------

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