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 Thanit    |
Posted - 2004.08.16 08:36:00 -
[61] Mega: H: 6-7xrails (assume we are talking empire space here ?) 1-2x launcher/defenders or smartbombs (med) or nosfs. M: 3x cap rechargers, 1x web L: 2x RCU/PDU you need, 2 tracking enhancers, Large repairer+ 2 hardeners or T2 membranes. + Heavy drones, fast ones if possible Dom: H: Nosferatus M: 2x webber, 2x scrambler (short range), MWD. L: 2x Large repairer, 2x hardener (kin+expl), 1x kinetic membrane or a second kinetic hardener, cap relay. + mixture of heavy and medium drones with lotsa spares. Use heavy hitters. The mega stays at range and kills the cruisers the dom scrambles while the dom uses its nosfs and drones on the rest. You main risk is in ecm being used or the cruisers being far apart from eachother and using speed. You can bet the Dominix will be the one targetted by the enemy since it is weakest and you are putting it close in. That means you need to make sure you use those nosferatus well so it has enough cap to tank. The kinetic hardeners should help against the caracals and thoraxes tho. |
 Thanit |
Posted - 2004.08.16 08:36:00 -
[62] Mega: H: 6-7xrails (assume we are talking empire space here ?) 1-2x launcher/defenders or smartbombs (med) or nosfs. M: 3x cap rechargers, 1x web L: 2x RCU/PDU you need, 2 tracking enhancers, Large repairer+ 2 hardeners or T2 membranes. + Heavy drones, fast ones if possible Dom: H: Nosferatus M: 2x webber, 2x scrambler (short range), MWD. L: 2x Large repairer, 2x hardener (kin+expl), 1x kinetic membrane or a second kinetic hardener, cap relay. + mixture of heavy and medium drones with lotsa spares. Use heavy hitters. The mega stays at range and kills the cruisers the dom scrambles while the dom uses its nosfs and drones on the rest. You main risk is in ecm being used or the cruisers being far apart from eachother and using speed. You can bet the Dominix will be the one targetted by the enemy since it is weakest and you are putting it close in. That means you need to make sure you use those nosferatus well so it has enough cap to tank. The kinetic hardeners should help against the caracals and thoraxes tho. |
 Thanit |
Posted - 2004.08.16 08:36:00 -
[63] Mega: H: 6-7xrails (assume we are talking empire space here ?) 1-2x launcher/defenders or smartbombs (med) or nosfs. M: 3x cap rechargers, 1x web L: 2x RCU/PDU you need, 2 tracking enhancers, Large repairer+ 2 hardeners or T2 membranes. + Heavy drones, fast ones if possible Dom: H: Nosferatus M: 2x webber, 2x scrambler (short range), MWD. L: 2x Large repairer, 2x hardener (kin+expl), 1x kinetic membrane or a second kinetic hardener, cap relay. + mixture of heavy and medium drones with lotsa spares. Use heavy hitters. The mega stays at range and kills the cruisers the dom scrambles while the dom uses its nosfs and drones on the rest. You main risk is in ecm being used or the cruisers being far apart from eachother and using speed. You can bet the Dominix will be the one targetted by the enemy since it is weakest and you are putting it close in. That means you need to make sure you use those nosferatus well so it has enough cap to tank. The kinetic hardeners should help against the caracals and thoraxes tho. |
 Thanit |
Posted - 2004.08.16 08:40:00 -
[64] Oh, but if this is an altcorp of decent pvp'ers no matter what your setup is you will be toasted by a group of 6 or more cruisers. |
 Thanit |
Posted - 2004.08.16 08:40:00 -
[65] Oh, but if this is an altcorp of decent pvp'ers no matter what your setup is you will be toasted by a group of 6 or more cruisers. |
Thanit |
Posted - 2004.08.16 08:40:00 -
[66] Oh, but if this is an altcorp of decent pvp'ers no matter what your setup is you will be toasted by a group of 6 or more cruisers. |
Mid Slots |
Posted - 2004.08.16 09:18:00 -
[67]
If they did show up with just a couple EW cruisers and you didn't have your drones out then the cruisers would easily win. Blackbirds (with easy to train EW skills) and caracals (with easy to train missile skills) are an alt/war corps best friends. |
Mid Slots |
Posted - 2004.08.16 09:18:00 -
[68]
If they did show up with just a couple EW cruisers and you didn't have your drones out then the cruisers would easily win. Blackbirds (with easy to train EW skills) and caracals (with easy to train missile skills) are an alt/war corps best friends. |
 Mid Slots Caldari Provisions |
Posted - 2004.08.16 09:18:00 -
[69]
If they did show up with just a couple EW cruisers and you didn't have your drones out then the cruisers would easily win. Blackbirds (with easy to train EW skills) and caracals (with easy to train missile skills) are an alt/war corps best friends. |
Joke Off |
Posted - 2004.08.16 14:59:00 -
[70]
Well I did try a test on Chaos with a BB setup for EW (see below) jamming a Megathron not setup for ECCM and yes the Mega could not target drones however after some minutes the Mega launched the drones and the BB with full EW pointed at the Mega was still attacked by drones who went aggro on the BB not when the BB was firing with beams but when BB turned Nos's back on after the Nos's apparently cycled off since they were running for quite some time. BB setup for EW Hi 2x Heavy Modulated Beams with Multifreq xtals 2x Med Nos's Med 1x MWD 1x each Racial ECM 1x Spatial Destabilizer (in case of Scorpion not setup for ECCM) Lo 2x RCU II BTW - This BB setup was able to jam the Mega with -14 for Gallente ships so the Mega with one ECCM in a Mid slot would have been safe - this was a test. The Mega had F.O.F. cruise missiles which even with the latest missile nerf the BB lost shields after 6-8 volleys and then lost armor 3-4 volleys later but the BB was UNABLE to kill the Mega before the Mega would have killed the BB. Yes I realize this was a 1v1 test and in real combat the goal is to jam one ship at a time (when killing BS's) then have all attackers fire on that jammed ship even though only the EW attacker is protected from being targeted. Assuming there were 3 cruisers doing the attacking (Caracal, Thorax and BB doing EW) and the Thorax didn't have heavy combat drones but the Mega was setup to handle the Kinetic dmg from the Caracal (Armor tanking) the 9 heavy drones from the Mega could still attack the Caracal and Thorax unless the Caracal and Thorax stayed 50km away (outside drone range) but then the Mega could have opened up with 425's on both the Caracal and Thorax - assume none of these cruiser had MWD's which means they're not moving too fast... I think the solo Mega without the Dom's help could take 3 cruisers as mentioned here even with one BB doing EW (see above). Anyway the folks in the cruisers didn't seem to know what heavy combat drones were cuz when a solo Amarr frigate pilot scouted them out they were unable or unwilling to kill the Amarri friggy even though they had the home system advantage and enough peeps in cruisers to camp the gates (had they done it right). |
 Joke Off |
Posted - 2004.08.16 14:59:00 -
[71]
Well I did try a test on Chaos with a BB setup for EW (see below) jamming a Megathron not setup for ECCM and yes the Mega could not target drones however after some minutes the Mega launched the drones and the BB with full EW pointed at the Mega was still attacked by drones who went aggro on the BB not when the BB was firing with beams but when BB turned Nos's back on after the Nos's apparently cycled off since they were running for quite some time. BB setup for EW Hi 2x Heavy Modulated Beams with Multifreq xtals 2x Med Nos's Med 1x MWD 1x each Racial ECM 1x Spatial Destabilizer (in case of Scorpion not setup for ECCM) Lo 2x RCU II BTW - This BB setup was able to jam the Mega with -14 for Gallente ships so the Mega with one ECCM in a Mid slot would have been safe - this was a test. The Mega had F.O.F. cruise missiles which even with the latest missile nerf the BB lost shields after 6-8 volleys and then lost armor 3-4 volleys later but the BB was UNABLE to kill the Mega before the Mega would have killed the BB. Yes I realize this was a 1v1 test and in real combat the goal is to jam one ship at a time (when killing BS's) then have all attackers fire on that jammed ship even though only the EW attacker is protected from being targeted. Assuming there were 3 cruisers doing the attacking (Caracal, Thorax and BB doing EW) and the Thorax didn't have heavy combat drones but the Mega was setup to handle the Kinetic dmg from the Caracal (Armor tanking) the 9 heavy drones from the Mega could still attack the Caracal and Thorax unless the Caracal and Thorax stayed 50km away (outside drone range) but then the Mega could have opened up with 425's on both the Caracal and Thorax - assume none of these cruiser had MWD's which means they're not moving too fast... I think the solo Mega without the Dom's help could take 3 cruisers as mentioned here even with one BB doing EW (see above). Anyway the folks in the cruisers didn't seem to know what heavy combat drones were cuz when a solo Amarr frigate pilot scouted them out they were unable or unwilling to kill the Amarri friggy even though they had the home system advantage and enough peeps in cruisers to camp the gates (had they done it right). |
 Joke Off |
Posted - 2004.08.16 14:59:00 -
[72]
Well I did try a test on Chaos with a BB setup for EW (see below) jamming a Megathron not setup for ECCM and yes the Mega could not target drones however after some minutes the Mega launched the drones and the BB with full EW pointed at the Mega was still attacked by drones who went aggro on the BB not when the BB was firing with beams but when BB turned Nos's back on after the Nos's apparently cycled off since they were running for quite some time. BB setup for EW Hi 2x Heavy Modulated Beams with Multifreq xtals 2x Med Nos's Med 1x MWD 1x each Racial ECM 1x Spatial Destabilizer (in case of Scorpion not setup for ECCM) Lo 2x RCU II BTW - This BB setup was able to jam the Mega with -14 for Gallente ships so the Mega with one ECCM in a Mid slot would have been safe - this was a test. The Mega had F.O.F. cruise missiles which even with the latest missile nerf the BB lost shields after 6-8 volleys and then lost armor 3-4 volleys later but the BB was UNABLE to kill the Mega before the Mega would have killed the BB. Yes I realize this was a 1v1 test and in real combat the goal is to jam one ship at a time (when killing BS's) then have all attackers fire on that jammed ship even though only the EW attacker is protected from being targeted. Assuming there were 3 cruisers doing the attacking (Caracal, Thorax and BB doing EW) and the Thorax didn't have heavy combat drones but the Mega was setup to handle the Kinetic dmg from the Caracal (Armor tanking) the 9 heavy drones from the Mega could still attack the Caracal and Thorax unless the Caracal and Thorax stayed 50km away (outside drone range) but then the Mega could have opened up with 425's on both the Caracal and Thorax - assume none of these cruiser had MWD's which means they're not moving too fast... I think the solo Mega without the Dom's help could take 3 cruisers as mentioned here even with one BB doing EW (see above). Anyway the folks in the cruisers didn't seem to know what heavy combat drones were cuz when a solo Amarr frigate pilot scouted them out they were unable or unwilling to kill the Amarri friggy even though they had the home system advantage and enough peeps in cruisers to camp the gates (had they done it right). |
DJTheBaron |
Posted - 2004.08.16 15:47:00 -
[73]
people can kill teir 2 battleships using their itnerceptor, alone, if the piliot is noob enough, so its not really a valid question i can takeout a frigate using an ibis __________________________________________________ Scum, your all scum. |
 DJTheBaron |
Posted - 2004.08.16 15:47:00 -
[74]
people can kill teir 2 battleships using their itnerceptor, alone, if the piliot is noob enough, so its not really a valid question i can takeout a frigate using an ibis __________________________________________________ Scum, your all scum. |
 DJTheBaron Caldari FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance |
Posted - 2004.08.16 15:47:00 -
[75]
people can kill teir 2 battleships using their itnerceptor, alone, if the piliot is noob enough, so its not really a valid question i can takeout a frigate using an ibis ___________________ "The Views & Opinions Expressed In This Post Represent Those of My Corporation & Alliance. So Go **** Yourself" DJTheBaron: FATAL Alliance Diplomat |
 BigDaddyMcNugget |
Posted - 2007.07.27 07:22:00 -
[76] This is the fitting i put on my dominix. Compared with using a megathron, I was able to get alot better results with the dominix. (PvE setup) DOMI: High: 2x e500 large vamp 3x drone augmentors 1x small laser (for argoing groups) MED: 1x large cap booster (800's) 1x med cap booster (800's) OR Cap recharger II 2x Omni directional 1x 60% targeting range sensor booster LOW: 2x Large accomadation reps (or t2) 1x Damage control II 4x armor hardners based on rats DRONES: 10x Hobgoblin II 5x Warden I (for long ranges, saves time waitng for drones to reach target) 5x Hammerhead II 5x Ogre II |
 Ashaz Mindstar Technology United Confederation of Corporations |
Posted - 2007.07.27 07:26:00 -
[77]
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 Ivan Kirilenkov Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department  |
Posted - 2007.07.27 07:31:00 -
[78] 2004 called and wanted it's thread back. |
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