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Vex Seraphim
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Posted - 2004.08.16 11:22:00 -
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CFS was a noble idea, but things just don't work that way.
CES, that is, 'Coalition of Enslaved Stars' is more fitting
considering the ways FA is handling you guys.
No, your idea wouldn't work work even if FA haven't been there,
simply because another alliance would have jumped on the opportunity.
I honestly do not think that you have enough military to
stand up to either CA or FA, although i must note that you
guys are honorable fighters, or atleast that's what i have seen so far.
Anyway, to the point: either reform your alliance with FA
making sure you will henceforth own your stations,
or muster an army strong enough to hold your against everybody.
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Vex Seraphim
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Posted - 2004.08.16 11:22:00 -
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CFS was a noble idea, but things just don't work that way.
CES, that is, 'Coalition of Enslaved Stars' is more fitting
considering the ways FA is handling you guys.
No, your idea wouldn't work work even if FA haven't been there,
simply because another alliance would have jumped on the opportunity.
I honestly do not think that you have enough military to
stand up to either CA or FA, although i must note that you
guys are honorable fighters, or atleast that's what i have seen so far.
Anyway, to the point: either reform your alliance with FA
making sure you will henceforth own your stations,
or muster an army strong enough to hold your against everybody.
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MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2004.08.16 11:23:00 -
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tbh Xanadu sent a fleet down last time shinra were in delve. that was 2 months ago i think
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MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2004.08.16 11:23:00 -
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tbh Xanadu sent a fleet down last time shinra were in delve. that was 2 months ago i think
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.08.16 11:24:00 -
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Edited by: Reverend Necrona on 16/08/2004 11:26:34
Sounds somewhat similar as to whats going on in NORAD. FA promised they'd defend their "LONG TIME" allies. Have we seen any FA assitance while we gallavant around NORAD space decimating their fleets? Have we bugger.
No instead FA camps YZ-LQL with their imobile 40+ battleship fleet. Now i like to pvp, but i aint jumping into 40 battleshps, drones deployed, frigates/cruiser support and warp disruptors, with the current state of the servers. I'd love to some day do that, but untill ccp sorts it out we simply let Fountain sit and blob, while we anhilate all they swore to protect and assist.
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Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.08.16 11:24:00 -
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Edited by: Reverend Necrona on 16/08/2004 11:26:34
Sounds somewhat similar as to whats going on in NORAD. FA promised they'd defend their "LONG TIME" allies. Have we seen any FA assitance while we gallavant around NORAD space decimating their fleets? Have we bugger.
No instead FA camps YZ-LQL with their imobile 40+ battleship fleet. Now i like to pvp, but i aint jumping into 40 battleshps, drones deployed, frigates/cruiser support and warp disruptors, with the current state of the servers. I'd love to some day do that, but untill ccp sorts it out we simply let Fountain sit and blob, while we anhilate all they swore to protect and assist.
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Vapouriz3r
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Posted - 2004.08.16 11:24:00 -
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 Originally by: Kate Libby
unfortunally would such nap not be accepted by many of the non-cfs corperations that are operating in cfs space, and those are in greater numbers then cfs is so it wouldn't help CA at all they will still get shot all over the place  .
LOL you make it out like CA get there asses handed to them all the time in CFS space.I'd say 95% of the engagements CA has with CFS and friends they CA win. CA don't need CFS help so I've got no idea what your waffling on about.
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Vapouriz3r
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Posted - 2004.08.16 11:24:00 -
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Originally by: Kate Libby
unfortunally would such nap not be accepted by many of the non-cfs corperations that are operating in cfs space, and those are in greater numbers then cfs is so it wouldn't help CA at all they will still get shot all over the place .
LOL you make it out like CA get there asses handed to them all the time in CFS space.I'd say 95% of the engagements CA has with CFS and friends they CA win. CA don't need CFS help so I've got no idea what your waffling on about.
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2004.08.16 11:26:00 -
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I have never seen so much outsiders AND opponents understanding what the situation really is like ! Good !
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2004.08.16 11:26:00 -
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I have never seen so much outsiders AND opponents understanding what the situation really is like ! Good !
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Mr Blonde
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Posted - 2004.08.16 11:27:00 -
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Originally by: AvanCade
Helloooooooooooooooooooo ?? Have you even ever been in CFS space ? Did you ever get involved with CFS politics ? I DONT THINK SO !!
CA took all the stations [cept all BA ones] so CFS can take em back withouth policital repercussions. THEY EVEN OFFERED IT FOR CRYING OUT LOUD !
So who isnt seeing the bigger picture.
Even though its only to hurt FA, but it as well helps CFS, so why not benefit of the situation as everyone would !
Pride is such a harsh thing. it'nt it ?
So? I'm not saying the CA's strategy to try to weaken the FA by taking away its allies is a bad one, but in the end that is what it is. The CA have no interest in helping the CFS, only in breaking their relationship with the FA. But what happens after this is all done?
The CFS might have a week or two of "peace" depending on how the other alliances (Star Alliances, Delve Protectorate etc) react, and when CA go back to Curse space they will sit there, between the FA and Stain, and have no one to fall back on. Or do you actually think that the CA who cant even defend their own space will come down to help them after having finished using them?
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Mr Blonde
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Posted - 2004.08.16 11:27:00 -
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Originally by: AvanCade
Helloooooooooooooooooooo ?? Have you even ever been in CFS space ? Did you ever get involved with CFS politics ? I DONT THINK SO !!
CA took all the stations [cept all BA ones] so CFS can take em back withouth policital repercussions. THEY EVEN OFFERED IT FOR CRYING OUT LOUD !
So who isnt seeing the bigger picture.
Even though its only to hurt FA, but it as well helps CFS, so why not benefit of the situation as everyone would !
Pride is such a harsh thing. it'nt it ?
So? I'm not saying the CA's strategy to try to weaken the FA by taking away its allies is a bad one, but in the end that is what it is. The CA have no interest in helping the CFS, only in breaking their relationship with the FA. But what happens after this is all done?
The CFS might have a week or two of "peace" depending on how the other alliances (Star Alliances, Delve Protectorate etc) react, and when CA go back to Curse space they will sit there, between the FA and Stain, and have no one to fall back on. Or do you actually think that the CA who cant even defend their own space will come down to help them after having finished using them?
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Vex Seraphim
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Posted - 2004.08.16 11:41:00 -
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Edited by: Vex Seraphim on 16/08/2004 11:43:05
this whole thread kinda shows something that hasn't been fully revealed before
if CFS take their own stations, FA will then war with CFS?..
so does this make FA pirates?
no, wait, let me get this straight, if CA will take CFS stations
from FA, and give them to CFS, and then FA will war with CFS
and retake or try to retake the stations, will CA still
carry the whole "CA are ebil pirates who ruin it for everybody" stigma?
no, wait, oh well, yes, continue calling CA ebil pirates
and stay afraid of FA attacking you if you even ATTEMPT
to take YOUR stations back.
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Vex Seraphim
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Posted - 2004.08.16 11:41:00 -
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Edited by: Vex Seraphim on 16/08/2004 11:43:05
this whole thread kinda shows something that hasn't been fully revealed before
if CFS take their own stations, FA will then war with CFS?..
so does this make FA pirates?
no, wait, let me get this straight, if CA will take CFS stations
from FA, and give them to CFS, and then FA will war with CFS
and retake or try to retake the stations, will CA still
carry the whole "CA are ebil pirates who ruin it for everybody" stigma?
no, wait, oh well, yes, continue calling CA ebil pirates
and stay afraid of FA attacking you if you even ATTEMPT
to take YOUR stations back.
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Guderian
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Posted - 2004.08.16 11:42:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Blonde
The CFS might have a week or two of "peace" depending on how the other alliances (Star Alliances, Delve Protectorate etc) react, and when CA go back to Curse space they will sit there, between the FA and Stain, and have no one to fall back on. Or do you actually think that the CA who cant even defend their own space will come down to help them after having finished using them?
It has never been CA's intentions (in the form of Shinra) to engage in any kind of mutual protection pact with cfs, where CA would defend CFS pilots or CFS space. We offered a cease fire (nap if you want) so the residents in cfs space could try to re-claim their 'own land'.
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Guderian
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Posted - 2004.08.16 11:42:00 -
[106]
Originally by: Mr Blonde
The CFS might have a week or two of "peace" depending on how the other alliances (Star Alliances, Delve Protectorate etc) react, and when CA go back to Curse space they will sit there, between the FA and Stain, and have no one to fall back on. Or do you actually think that the CA who cant even defend their own space will come down to help them after having finished using them?
It has never been CA's intentions (in the form of Shinra) to engage in any kind of mutual protection pact with cfs, where CA would defend CFS pilots or CFS space. We offered a cease fire (nap if you want) so the residents in cfs space could try to re-claim their 'own land'.
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HyperBaton
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Posted - 2004.08.16 11:44:00 -
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Edited by: HyperBaton on 16/08/2004 11:45:44
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Raindrop
CFS Council member
Xentech Minerals department
Says enough.
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It now seems obvious that this incident was carried out by CA alts.
Yes, Shinra is actually a VOTF alt corp. I'm Xirtam, all your Veldspar are belong to me.
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HyperBaton
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Posted - 2004.08.16 11:44:00 -
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Edited by: HyperBaton on 16/08/2004 11:45:44
Quote:
Raindrop
CFS Council member
Xentech Minerals department
Says enough.
Quote:
It now seems obvious that this incident was carried out by CA alts.
Yes, Shinra is actually a VOTF alt corp. I'm Xirtam, all your Veldspar are belong to me.
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Jouni Kalmar
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Posted - 2004.08.16 11:46:00 -
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Edited by: Jouni Kalmar on 16/08/2004 11:48:53
You guys should really listen to AvanCade.
Why are CFS funding FA's armies anyway? 120m for an office is rediculous. If CFS thinks they can take and hold the stations and defend it better than FA and BIG then do it. So far i cant remember seeing any FA ships defending CFS like their arrements state they would, and i have seen 1 BIG pilot.
We did have a tempory NAP with CFS/Star Alliance however, some Star Alliance members broke this nap and tried to shoot up some of our ships. They wanted war so we gave it to them, soon after CFS followed with similar actions.
Stop protecting FA/BIG or trying to, while they do nothing at all to help CFS and get rich off you guys.
Vex is right also, the stations in querious/delve are in CFS space, therefore should be managed by CFS NOT FA or BIG. If you would work together to defend and hold the stations you would make alot more isk for yourself to help with any efforts FA or BIG made to get the stations back... but don't do it now, wait until CA go :P
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Jouni Kalmar
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Posted - 2004.08.16 11:46:00 -
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Edited by: Jouni Kalmar on 16/08/2004 11:48:53
You guys should really listen to AvanCade.
Why are CFS funding FA's armies anyway? 120m for an office is rediculous. If CFS thinks they can take and hold the stations and defend it better than FA and BIG then do it. So far i cant remember seeing any FA ships defending CFS like their arrements state they would, and i have seen 1 BIG pilot.
We did have a tempory NAP with CFS/Star Alliance however, some Star Alliance members broke this nap and tried to shoot up some of our ships. They wanted war so we gave it to them, soon after CFS followed with similar actions.
Stop protecting FA/BIG or trying to, while they do nothing at all to help CFS and get rich off you guys.
Vex is right also, the stations in querious/delve are in CFS space, therefore should be managed by CFS NOT FA or BIG. If you would work together to defend and hold the stations you would make alot more isk for yourself to help with any efforts FA or BIG made to get the stations back... but don't do it now, wait until CA go :P
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Piccilo
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Posted - 2004.08.16 11:56:00 -
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hi :) im sure a lot of you kno of me, and im not gonna bother commenting cause u all kno how i feel about the situation :p
i thought id just say hi and let u kno im watching O.o
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Piccilo
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Posted - 2004.08.16 11:56:00 -
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hi :) im sure a lot of you kno of me, and im not gonna bother commenting cause u all kno how i feel about the situation :p
i thought id just say hi and let u kno im watching O.o
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Kate Libby
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Posted - 2004.08.16 12:01:00 -
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Originally by: Vapouriz3r
Originally by: Kate Libby
unfortunally would such nap not be accepted by many of the non-cfs corperations that are operating in cfs space, and those are in greater numbers then cfs is so it wouldn't help CA at all they will still get shot all over the place .
LOL you make it out like CA get there asses handed to them all the time in CFS space.I'd say 95% of the engagements CA has with CFS and friends they CA win. CA don't need CFS help so I've got no idea what your waffling on about.
i should say that any fleet led by ASCI has never lost more then we have killed. and because this is all about bragging u guys are getting outclassed by us and all the friends/allies that we fight together with.
and i may send u my congratz for all the other lone ship gankings etc..
however i can't speak or even care about any other losses then losses made under ASCI command or participation.
Just checking my sexy tools...
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Kate Libby
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Posted - 2004.08.16 12:01:00 -
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Originally by: Vapouriz3r
Originally by: Kate Libby
unfortunally would such nap not be accepted by many of the non-cfs corperations that are operating in cfs space, and those are in greater numbers then cfs is so it wouldn't help CA at all they will still get shot all over the place .
LOL you make it out like CA get there asses handed to them all the time in CFS space.I'd say 95% of the engagements CA has with CFS and friends they CA win. CA don't need CFS help so I've got no idea what your waffling on about.
i should say that any fleet led by ASCI has never lost more then we have killed. and because this is all about bragging u guys are getting outclassed by us and all the friends/allies that we fight together with.
and i may send u my congratz for all the other lone ship gankings etc..
however i can't speak or even care about any other losses then losses made under ASCI command or participation.
Just checking my sexy tools...
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MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2004.08.16 12:04:00 -
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hi picc, how r u?
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MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2004.08.16 12:04:00 -
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hi picc, how r u?
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HyperBaton
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Posted - 2004.08.16 12:05:00 -
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Originally by: Piccilo
hi :) im sure a lot of you kno of me, and im not gonna bother commenting cause u all kno how i feel about the situation :p
i thought id just say hi and let u kno im watching O.o
Well folks, it's not hard to tell Piccilo is Zelota's alt 
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HyperBaton
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Posted - 2004.08.16 12:05:00 -
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Originally by: Piccilo
hi :) im sure a lot of you kno of me, and im not gonna bother commenting cause u all kno how i feel about the situation :p
i thought id just say hi and let u kno im watching O.o
Well folks, it's not hard to tell Piccilo is Zelota's alt
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nieo
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Posted - 2004.08.16 12:48:00 -
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As diplomatic as always TommyBoy.
When will we see the first post in this thread declaring that CFS is dead?
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nieo
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Posted - 2004.08.16 12:48:00 -
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As diplomatic as always TommyBoy.
When will we see the first post in this thread declaring that CFS is dead?
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