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Tommy Boy	Posted - 2004.08.16 06:42:00 - [1] Backgroud: CFS has tried to persuade for many months now BIG to give the station back peacefully. All attempts Failed. So we pop a few rounds at the station, then... they all the sudden have some time to talk kinda... : ------------------------------------------------------------ Channelname: Angelhunter conversation Listener: Mike7 Session started: 2004.08.16 06:11:28 ------------------------------------------------------------ [ 2004.08.16 06:11:32 ] Mike7 > hi [ 2004.08.16 06:11:49 ] Angelhunter > Ceas your hostilities immediately [ 2004.08.16 06:12:18 ] -> Ronyo Dae'Loki has joined the channel [ 2004.08.16 06:12:26 ] Mike7 > done [ 2004.08.16 06:12:47 ] -> Voltaire Leriel has joined the channel [ 2004.08.16 06:12:47 ] Ronyo Dae'Loki > We are bringing a BIG director in here [ 2004.08.16 06:12:54 ] Ronyo Dae'Loki > I am the current FA fleet commander in charge [ 2004.08.16 06:13:05 ] Voltaire Leriel > ok whats going here, macrosoft has good standing with BIG, why the hostility [ 2004.08.16 06:13:08 ] Ronyo Dae'Loki > What is going on, and why are you attacking the station in TPAR? [ 2004.08.16 06:13:45 ] Mike7 > we have very good standing.. [ 2004.08.16 06:13:58 ] Voltaire Leriel > indeed, so why are you attacking us. [ 2004.08.16 06:14:20 ] Voltaire Leriel > i know macrosoft has been very good in helping with defending the station. [ 2004.08.16 06:14:28 ] Mike7 > we have [ 2004.08.16 06:14:31 ] Mike7 > Definition of a deployable: Any type of station built or added to the game, anything that requires deployment or anchoring, and anything that is captureable and or destroyable. The CFS Executive Council will determine who can use such deployables and where they can be used. A high ranking officer in their respective corporation or alliance wanting to have deployables in our space will represent themselves to the Council. The Council shall also determine who places what deployables where. Any corporation with deployables in CFS space must adhere to the CFS charter and not use their deployables in any form to close off any section of space. If deployables are found in areas not designated to them they may be captured/destroyed under orders of The Council after given 3 days warning. [ 2004.08.16 06:14:49 ] Mike7 > Ratified March 2-04 By the CFS Senate 1. All FA controlled stations in Delve to remain FA controlled. 2. FA agrees to keep the Delve Region open - free use for all. Addendum 1: In case of warfare against the FA, the Delve region (or parts of) could be temporarilly closed of except for specifically allowed parties (CFS would be an obvious such party) Addendum 2: The Delve region is not considered 'FA Space' 3. CFS recognizes FA rights to utilize all and any resources and facilities of the sourounding regions (specifically Period Basis and Querious) 4. The CFS does not ask for reciprocal access to FA space. 5. FA recognizes the CFS lays claim to the three disputed regions. 6. Each side to designate ambassadors. 7. In case of dispute each agrees to wait 48 hours to allow ambassadors to reach a settlement before ANY other action is taken. _________________ [ 2004.08.16 06:14:51 ] Ronyo Dae'Loki > So? [ 2004.08.16 06:15:08 ] Mike7 > OUr charter, your treaty [ 2004.08.16 06:15:13 ] Ronyo Dae'Loki > Ok, so why are you attacking the TPAR station? [ 2004.08.16 06:15:36 ] Voltaire Leriel > and the last one says that you need to talk to us before you dispute anything [ 2004.08.16 06:15:36 ] Mike7 > Ok let me explain [ 2004.08.16 06:15:41 ] Mike7 > yes [ 2004.08.16 06:15:43 ] Mike7 > i did [ 2004.08.16 06:15:52 ] Mike7 > Det [ 2004.08.16 06:15:54 ] Mike7 > the BIG rep [ 2004.08.16 06:16:03 ] Voltaire Leriel > and who was that [ 2004.08.16 06:16:03 ] Mike7 > talked to him 3days ago [ 2004.08.16 06:16:07 ] Mike7 > and you ignored us [ 2004.08.16 06:16:10 ] Voltaire Leriel > and what did he tell you [ 2004.08.16 06:16:27 ] Mike7 > he said he would get back to me [ 2004.08.16 06:16:55 ] Voltaire Leriel > its possible he was AFK, we have public forums, you could have come there, we also have a public IRC channels [ 2004.08.16 06:17:05 ] Mike7 > no we had full convo [ 2004.08.16 06:17:08 ] Voltaire Leriel > you only convoed 1 person, i do not see that as adequate communication [ 2004.08.16 06:17:10 ] Mike7 > let me show you the plan he had [ 2004.08.16 06:17:20 ] Mike7 > he said he took this to Tornsoul.. [ 2004.08.16 06:17:39 ] Mike7 > The New "Big" Deal An evil force is taking control of Big's stations and all BIG personell are busy in Fountain region countering insurgents. This third party force caps the TPAR-G station, with CFS in the area they immediately ward off the forces in TPAR-G and retake the station, to reward their long time good standing and excellent defense of the station, BIG rewards CFS by letting them keep the station. _____________________ Times have to change ---------------------
Tommy Boy	Posted - 2004.08.16 06:42:00 - [2] Backgroud: CFS has tried to persuade for many months now BIG to give the station back peacefully. All attempts Failed. So we pop a few rounds at the station, then... they all the sudden have some time to talk kinda... : ------------------------------------------------------------ Channelname: Angelhunter conversation Listener: Mike7 Session started: 2004.08.16 06:11:28 ------------------------------------------------------------ [ 2004.08.16 06:11:32 ] Mike7 > hi [ 2004.08.16 06:11:49 ] Angelhunter > Ceas your hostilities immediately [ 2004.08.16 06:12:18 ] -> Ronyo Dae'Loki has joined the channel [ 2004.08.16 06:12:26 ] Mike7 > done [ 2004.08.16 06:12:47 ] -> Voltaire Leriel has joined the channel [ 2004.08.16 06:12:47 ] Ronyo Dae'Loki > We are bringing a BIG director in here [ 2004.08.16 06:12:54 ] Ronyo Dae'Loki > I am the current FA fleet commander in charge [ 2004.08.16 06:13:05 ] Voltaire Leriel > ok whats going here, macrosoft has good standing with BIG, why the hostility [ 2004.08.16 06:13:08 ] Ronyo Dae'Loki > What is going on, and why are you attacking the station in TPAR? [ 2004.08.16 06:13:45 ] Mike7 > we have very good standing.. [ 2004.08.16 06:13:58 ] Voltaire Leriel > indeed, so why are you attacking us. [ 2004.08.16 06:14:20 ] Voltaire Leriel > i know macrosoft has been very good in helping with defending the station. [ 2004.08.16 06:14:28 ] Mike7 > we have [ 2004.08.16 06:14:31 ] Mike7 > Definition of a deployable: Any type of station built or added to the game, anything that requires deployment or anchoring, and anything that is captureable and or destroyable. The CFS Executive Council will determine who can use such deployables and where they can be used. A high ranking officer in their respective corporation or alliance wanting to have deployables in our space will represent themselves to the Council. The Council shall also determine who places what deployables where. Any corporation with deployables in CFS space must adhere to the CFS charter and not use their deployables in any form to close off any section of space. If deployables are found in areas not designated to them they may be captured/destroyed under orders of The Council after given 3 days warning. [ 2004.08.16 06:14:49 ] Mike7 > Ratified March 2-04 By the CFS Senate 1. All FA controlled stations in Delve to remain FA controlled. 2. FA agrees to keep the Delve Region open - free use for all. Addendum 1: In case of warfare against the FA, the Delve region (or parts of) could be temporarilly closed of except for specifically allowed parties (CFS would be an obvious such party) Addendum 2: The Delve region is not considered 'FA Space' 3. CFS recognizes FA rights to utilize all and any resources and facilities of the sourounding regions (specifically Period Basis and Querious) 4. The CFS does not ask for reciprocal access to FA space. 5. FA recognizes the CFS lays claim to the three disputed regions. 6. Each side to designate ambassadors. 7. In case of dispute each agrees to wait 48 hours to allow ambassadors to reach a settlement before ANY other action is taken. _________________ [ 2004.08.16 06:14:51 ] Ronyo Dae'Loki > So? [ 2004.08.16 06:15:08 ] Mike7 > OUr charter, your treaty [ 2004.08.16 06:15:13 ] Ronyo Dae'Loki > Ok, so why are you attacking the TPAR station? [ 2004.08.16 06:15:36 ] Voltaire Leriel > and the last one says that you need to talk to us before you dispute anything [ 2004.08.16 06:15:36 ] Mike7 > Ok let me explain [ 2004.08.16 06:15:41 ] Mike7 > yes [ 2004.08.16 06:15:43 ] Mike7 > i did [ 2004.08.16 06:15:52 ] Mike7 > Det [ 2004.08.16 06:15:54 ] Mike7 > the BIG rep [ 2004.08.16 06:16:03 ] Voltaire Leriel > and who was that [ 2004.08.16 06:16:03 ] Mike7 > talked to him 3days ago [ 2004.08.16 06:16:07 ] Mike7 > and you ignored us [ 2004.08.16 06:16:10 ] Voltaire Leriel > and what did he tell you [ 2004.08.16 06:16:27 ] Mike7 > he said he would get back to me [ 2004.08.16 06:16:55 ] Voltaire Leriel > its possible he was AFK, we have public forums, you could have come there, we also have a public IRC channels [ 2004.08.16 06:17:05 ] Mike7 > no we had full convo [ 2004.08.16 06:17:08 ] Voltaire Leriel > you only convoed 1 person, i do not see that as adequate communication [ 2004.08.16 06:17:10 ] Mike7 > let me show you the plan he had [ 2004.08.16 06:17:20 ] Mike7 > he said he took this to Tornsoul.. [ 2004.08.16 06:17:39 ] Mike7 > The New "Big" Deal An evil force is taking control of Big's stations and all BIG personell are busy in Fountain region countering insurgents. This third party force caps the TPAR-G station, with CFS in the area they immediately ward off the forces in TPAR-G and retake the station, to reward their long time good standing and excellent defense of the station, BIG rewards CFS by letting them keep the station. _____________________ Times have to change ---------------------
Tommy Boy	Posted - 2004.08.16 06:43:00 - [3] ____________________ 1) Coalition Forces will protect the station and keep it free to all law byding citzens. 2) Coalition forces are already in 5-6 and will continue to keep 5-6 Station free of CA as part of the miltary bargain with Fountain. 3) Standing(s) and taxe(s) will be set based upon CFS members and CFS friends. With members getting abit less tax than friends. [ 2004.08.16 06:18:04 ] Mike7 > i wrote this purposal [ 2004.08.16 06:18:41 ] Mike7 > He said that this sounded good [ 2004.08.16 06:18:46 ] Mike7 > he was given this Friday [ 2004.08.16 06:18:46 ] Angelhunter > Your attack on that station does represent an act of war against the Fountain Alliance, you do realize the consequences of your actions? [ 2004.08.16 06:19:01 ] Mike7 > no it doesnt [ 2004.08.16 06:19:06 ] Ronyo Dae'Loki > But he didn't agree? [ 2004.08.16 06:19:08 ] Mike7 > per your treaty [ 2004.08.16 06:19:22 ] Voltaire Leriel > i was never informed of any agreement and i'm a director of BIG [ 2004.08.16 06:19:31 ] Ronyo Dae'Loki > saying "it sounds ok" or "it sounds good" is NOT a binding agreement [ 2004.08.16 06:19:32 ] Mike7 > so he lies? [ 2004.08.16 06:19:40 ] Mike7 > your right [ 2004.08.16 06:19:50 ] Mike7 > it was not an agreement [ 2004.08.16 06:19:55 ] Voltaire Leriel > well he obviously didnt read it carefully or post it on our director's forums to be discussed [ 2004.08.16 06:20:10 ] Mike7 > so he lied to me... nice... [ 2004.08.16 06:20:32 ] Voltaire Leriel > i cannot speak for him, but this looks like a case of poor communication [ 2004.08.16 06:20:37 ] Mike7 > yes [ 2004.08.16 06:20:46 ] Ronyo Dae'Loki > "lied" would imply willful deception [ 2004.08.16 06:20:49 ] Mike7 > i didnt want to do this [ 2004.08.16 06:21:00 ] Mike7 > just was getting your attention [ 2004.08.16 06:21:15 ] Mike7 > now that maybe we can talk better [ 2004.08.16 06:21:21 ] Angelhunter > Well you now have the full attentin of the FA fleet [ 2004.08.16 06:21:34 ] Voltaire Leriel > and i'm telling you right now, that agreement is NOT OK and you need to cease fire until the proper diplomatic channels can be used. [ 2004.08.16 06:21:40 ] Angelhunter > and we do not tolerate acts of hostilities against our members [ 2004.08.16 06:21:45 ] Ronyo Dae'Loki > If you do not stand down and leave TPAR immediately we will be forced to bring a force down there. [ 2004.08.16 06:21:45 ] Voltaire Leriel > guns are NOT a form of diplomacy [ 2004.08.16 06:22:04 ] Mike7 > your right [ 2004.08.16 06:22:11 ] Mike7 > we dont want to fight [ 2004.08.16 06:22:15 ] Mike7 > we fight same CA [ 2004.08.16 06:22:21 ] Voltaire Leriel > we can sort this out peacefully, but you must cease hostilities and leave the area [ 2004.08.16 06:22:34 ] Mike7 > we did cease... [ 2004.08.16 06:22:46 ] Mike7 > and protecting it for further attacks [ 2004.08.16 06:23:09 ] Mike7 > So now that we are all here [ 2004.08.16 06:23:14 ] Mike7 > care to talk on ventrilo? [ 2004.08.16 06:23:24 ] Angelhunter > we use TS [ 2004.08.16 06:23:30 ] Mike7 > can i come on? [ 2004.08.16 06:23:33 ] Ronyo Dae'Loki > No, we are dealing with CA at the moment [ 2004.08.16 06:23:41 ] Ronyo Dae'Loki > We don't have time to debate this right now [ 2004.08.16 06:23:56 ] Mike7 > your right, CA more of problem [ 2004.08.16 06:23:58 ] Voltaire Leriel > indeed we dont [ 2004.08.16 06:24:10 ] Mike7 > so let us have station and we move to assit you [ 2004.08.16 06:24:14 ] Ronyo Dae'Loki > You need to talk to BIG command in a formal manner, not at 2:30AM ET [ 2004.08.16 06:24:55 ] Ronyo Dae'Loki > ANY additional aggressions will be seen and treated as an act of war and I have a large number of pilots up here with very itchy trigger fingers that are bored because CA isn't fighting at the moment. [ 2004.08.16 06:25:13 ] Mike7 > then how are you busy? [ 2004.08.16 06:26:01 ] Ronyo Dae'Loki > Because though CA isn't fighting they are heading toward us right now. [ 2004.08.16 06:26:32 ] Mike7 > We can help [ 2004.08.16 06:26:38 ] Mike7 > always offered to help [ 2004.08.16 06:26:46 ] Mike7 > we always defend these stations [ 2004.08.16 06:26:48 ] Mike7 > you dont.. [ 2004.08.16 06:26:55 ] Mike7 > So why do you care so much? [ 2004.08.16 06:27:30 ] Ronyo Dae'Loki > Conversation is over. If you wish to debate it further you will talk to BIG command at a later time. Any more attacks are an act of war. [ 2004.08.16 06:27:38 ] Ronyo Dae'Loki > /emote out [ 2004.08.16 06:27:56 ] <- Voltaire Leriel has left the channel [ 2004.08.16 06:27:56 ] <- Ronyo Dae'Loki has left the channel [ 2004.08.16 06:27:56 ] <- Angelhunter has left the channel _____________________ Times have to change ---------------------
Tommy Boy	Posted - 2004.08.16 06:43:00 - [4] ____________________ 1) Coalition Forces will protect the station and keep it free to all law byding citzens. 2) Coalition forces are already in 5-6 and will continue to keep 5-6 Station free of CA as part of the miltary bargain with Fountain. 3) Standing(s) and taxe(s) will be set based upon CFS members and CFS friends. With members getting abit less tax than friends. [ 2004.08.16 06:18:04 ] Mike7 > i wrote this purposal [ 2004.08.16 06:18:41 ] Mike7 > He said that this sounded good [ 2004.08.16 06:18:46 ] Mike7 > he was given this Friday [ 2004.08.16 06:18:46 ] Angelhunter > Your attack on that station does represent an act of war against the Fountain Alliance, you do realize the consequences of your actions? [ 2004.08.16 06:19:01 ] Mike7 > no it doesnt [ 2004.08.16 06:19:06 ] Ronyo Dae'Loki > But he didn't agree? [ 2004.08.16 06:19:08 ] Mike7 > per your treaty [ 2004.08.16 06:19:22 ] Voltaire Leriel > i was never informed of any agreement and i'm a director of BIG [ 2004.08.16 06:19:31 ] Ronyo Dae'Loki > saying "it sounds ok" or "it sounds good" is NOT a binding agreement [ 2004.08.16 06:19:32 ] Mike7 > so he lies? [ 2004.08.16 06:19:40 ] Mike7 > your right [ 2004.08.16 06:19:50 ] Mike7 > it was not an agreement [ 2004.08.16 06:19:55 ] Voltaire Leriel > well he obviously didnt read it carefully or post it on our director's forums to be discussed [ 2004.08.16 06:20:10 ] Mike7 > so he lied to me... nice... [ 2004.08.16 06:20:32 ] Voltaire Leriel > i cannot speak for him, but this looks like a case of poor communication [ 2004.08.16 06:20:37 ] Mike7 > yes [ 2004.08.16 06:20:46 ] Ronyo Dae'Loki > "lied" would imply willful deception [ 2004.08.16 06:20:49 ] Mike7 > i didnt want to do this [ 2004.08.16 06:21:00 ] Mike7 > just was getting your attention [ 2004.08.16 06:21:15 ] Mike7 > now that maybe we can talk better [ 2004.08.16 06:21:21 ] Angelhunter > Well you now have the full attentin of the FA fleet [ 2004.08.16 06:21:34 ] Voltaire Leriel > and i'm telling you right now, that agreement is NOT OK and you need to cease fire until the proper diplomatic channels can be used. [ 2004.08.16 06:21:40 ] Angelhunter > and we do not tolerate acts of hostilities against our members [ 2004.08.16 06:21:45 ] Ronyo Dae'Loki > If you do not stand down and leave TPAR immediately we will be forced to bring a force down there. [ 2004.08.16 06:21:45 ] Voltaire Leriel > guns are NOT a form of diplomacy [ 2004.08.16 06:22:04 ] Mike7 > your right [ 2004.08.16 06:22:11 ] Mike7 > we dont want to fight [ 2004.08.16 06:22:15 ] Mike7 > we fight same CA [ 2004.08.16 06:22:21 ] Voltaire Leriel > we can sort this out peacefully, but you must cease hostilities and leave the area [ 2004.08.16 06:22:34 ] Mike7 > we did cease... [ 2004.08.16 06:22:46 ] Mike7 > and protecting it for further attacks [ 2004.08.16 06:23:09 ] Mike7 > So now that we are all here [ 2004.08.16 06:23:14 ] Mike7 > care to talk on ventrilo? [ 2004.08.16 06:23:24 ] Angelhunter > we use TS [ 2004.08.16 06:23:30 ] Mike7 > can i come on? [ 2004.08.16 06:23:33 ] Ronyo Dae'Loki > No, we are dealing with CA at the moment [ 2004.08.16 06:23:41 ] Ronyo Dae'Loki > We don't have time to debate this right now [ 2004.08.16 06:23:56 ] Mike7 > your right, CA more of problem [ 2004.08.16 06:23:58 ] Voltaire Leriel > indeed we dont [ 2004.08.16 06:24:10 ] Mike7 > so let us have station and we move to assit you [ 2004.08.16 06:24:14 ] Ronyo Dae'Loki > You need to talk to BIG command in a formal manner, not at 2:30AM ET [ 2004.08.16 06:24:55 ] Ronyo Dae'Loki > ANY additional aggressions will be seen and treated as an act of war and I have a large number of pilots up here with very itchy trigger fingers that are bored because CA isn't fighting at the moment. [ 2004.08.16 06:25:13 ] Mike7 > then how are you busy? [ 2004.08.16 06:26:01 ] Ronyo Dae'Loki > Because though CA isn't fighting they are heading toward us right now. [ 2004.08.16 06:26:32 ] Mike7 > We can help [ 2004.08.16 06:26:38 ] Mike7 > always offered to help [ 2004.08.16 06:26:46 ] Mike7 > we always defend these stations [ 2004.08.16 06:26:48 ] Mike7 > you dont.. [ 2004.08.16 06:26:55 ] Mike7 > So why do you care so much? [ 2004.08.16 06:27:30 ] Ronyo Dae'Loki > Conversation is over. If you wish to debate it further you will talk to BIG command at a later time. Any more attacks are an act of war. [ 2004.08.16 06:27:38 ] Ronyo Dae'Loki > /emote out [ 2004.08.16 06:27:56 ] <- Voltaire Leriel has left the channel [ 2004.08.16 06:27:56 ] <- Ronyo Dae'Loki has left the channel [ 2004.08.16 06:27:56 ] <- Angelhunter has left the channel _____________________ Times have to change ---------------------
Cruz	Posted - 2004.08.16 06:48:00 - [5] Edited by: Cruz on 16/08/2004 06:54:09 I think its time CFS takes control of stations in CFS, thats how it should always have been, and how it will be I hope. .................
Cruz	Posted - 2004.08.16 06:48:00 - [6] Edited by: Cruz on 16/08/2004 06:54:09 I think its time CFS takes control of stations in CFS, thats how it should always have been, and how it will be I hope. .................
Tommy Boy	Posted - 2004.08.16 06:49:00 - [7] So after all it looks like Fountain ALliance will continue to TAX and treaten us, while we defend their stations _____________________ Times have to change ---------------------
Tommy Boy	Posted - 2004.08.16 06:49:00 - [8] So after all it looks like Fountain ALliance will continue to TAX and treaten us, while we defend their stations _____________________ Times have to change ---------------------
Pa1nbringr	Posted - 2004.08.16 07:00:00 - [9] cfs should own their stations, and why was angelhunter in that convo lol, that guy isn't worth anything ---------------------- Fedaykin Naib > eh this is boring, think im going to go choke one out Pa1nbringr > sick Fedaykin Naib > lol
Pa1nbringr	Posted - 2004.08.16 07:00:00 - [10] cfs should own their stations, and why was angelhunter in that convo lol, that guy isn't worth anything ---------------------- Fedaykin Naib > eh this is boring, think im going to go choke one out Pa1nbringr > sick Fedaykin Naib > lol
AvanCade	Posted - 2004.08.16 07:15:00 - [11] Take it Take it Take it
AvanCade	Posted - 2004.08.16 07:15:00 - [12] Take it Take it Take it
SkrittaK	Posted - 2004.08.16 07:20:00 - [13] very true =) Semper Fidelis Legion boys, we are here, shag your women and drink your beer! :)
SkrittaK	Posted - 2004.08.16 07:20:00 - [14] very true =) Semper Fidelis Legion boys, we are here, shag your women and drink your beer! :)
Dr Napier	Posted - 2004.08.16 07:21:00 - [15] For once I agree with CFS. If this is CFS then these are CFS stations. Too long has fountain grown fat on your corporations work
Dr Napier	Posted - 2004.08.16 07:21:00 - [16] For once I agree with CFS. If this is CFS then these are CFS stations. Too long has fountain grown fat on your corporations work
Shirei	Posted - 2004.08.16 07:22:00 - [17] If as you said, you defend those stations but FA don't, why don't you just let CA or whoever is attacking them occasionally take them and keep them for a few days or a week. FA would have hardly any ground to stand on, if you take the stations back from someone else who has been holding them for a while.
Shirei	Posted - 2004.08.16 07:22:00 - [18] If as you said, you defend those stations but FA don't, why don't you just let CA or whoever is attacking them occasionally take them and keep them for a few days or a week. FA would have hardly any ground to stand on, if you take the stations back from someone else who has been holding them for a while.
Cruz	Posted - 2004.08.16 07:29:00 - [19] Originally by: Shirei If as you said, you defend those stations but FA don't, why don't you just let CA or whoever is attacking them occasionally take them and keep them for a few days or a week. FA would have hardly any ground to stand on, if you take the stations back from someone else who has been holding them for a while. haha Its happened, and then FA comes back and just takes it with one little frigate. Then theres the problem of local alliances like DSMA helping FA keep the station and NOT allowing us to retake the station today when we sent in a task force to retake it. .................
Cruz	Posted - 2004.08.16 07:29:00 - [20] Originally by: Shirei If as you said, you defend those stations but FA don't, why don't you just let CA or whoever is attacking them occasionally take them and keep them for a few days or a week. FA would have hardly any ground to stand on, if you take the stations back from someone else who has been holding them for a while. haha Its happened, and then FA comes back and just takes it with one little frigate. Then theres the problem of local alliances like DSMA helping FA keep the station and NOT allowing us to retake the station today when we sent in a task force to retake it. .................
Sagainyte	Posted - 2004.08.16 07:29:00 - [21] Just an observation: Mike7 - member of Macrosoft for 14 days. This is hardly CFS work - they shouldnt have to suffer for rookie members with happy trigger fingers. I hope the FA initiates contact with people actually speaking for the CFS.
Sagainyte	Posted - 2004.08.16 07:29:00 - [22] Just an observation: Mike7 - member of Macrosoft for 14 days. This is hardly CFS work - they shouldnt have to suffer for rookie members with happy trigger fingers. I hope the FA initiates contact with people actually speaking for the CFS.
Cruz	Posted - 2004.08.16 07:30:00 - [23] Originally by: Sagainyte Just an observation: Mike7 - member of Macrosoft for 14 days. hes an alt .................
Cruz	Posted - 2004.08.16 07:30:00 - [24] Originally by: Sagainyte Just an observation: Mike7 - member of Macrosoft for 14 days. hes an alt .................
sapage1	Posted - 2004.08.16 07:34:00 - [25] Edited by: sapage1 on 16/08/2004 07:37:28 I know you are going to flame me just because i am CA but why do FA control stations in CFS held space? Don't you know how to take over a station? And why is FA taxing(i am guessing for what i have read) CFS for using there own stations. I am CA and all but WTF ??? Is there some Military or Economic reason that FA own stations in CFS space. This was not ment to flame i just wanted to know the reasons for this. ___________________________________________________
sapage1	Posted - 2004.08.16 07:34:00 - [26] Edited by: sapage1 on 16/08/2004 07:37:28 I know you are going to flame me just because i am CA but why do FA control stations in CFS held space? Don't you know how to take over a station? And why is FA taxing(i am guessing for what i have read) CFS for using there own stations. I am CA and all but WTF ??? Is there some Military or Economic reason that FA own stations in CFS space. This was not ment to flame i just wanted to know the reasons for this. ___________________________________________________
Sagainyte	Posted - 2004.08.16 08:06:00 - [27] Edited by: Sagainyte on 16/08/2004 08:08:10 All I'm saying is that this thread looks a little "Renegade" to me. I certainly see no offical marking by the main poster. I also doubt any leader of CFS would post logs on official forums. A diplomat might as well put a gun to his head. It is perfectly understandable that the locals want to be rewarded for defending the station - I hear they owned a Shinra fleet down there 2-3 days ago. Was it 5 or 9 Shinra BS lost? The best thing to do is to trust the leaders to come to a mutually beneficial and fair deal. That is afterall the good thing about the region. It's not populated by rabid shot'em all dogs like CA :p
Sagainyte	Posted - 2004.08.16 08:06:00 - [28] Edited by: Sagainyte on 16/08/2004 08:08:10 All I'm saying is that this thread looks a little "Renegade" to me. I certainly see no offical marking by the main poster. I also doubt any leader of CFS would post logs on official forums. A diplomat might as well put a gun to his head. It is perfectly understandable that the locals want to be rewarded for defending the station - I hear they owned a Shinra fleet down there 2-3 days ago. Was it 5 or 9 Shinra BS lost? The best thing to do is to trust the leaders to come to a mutually beneficial and fair deal. That is afterall the good thing about the region. It's not populated by rabid shot'em all dogs like CA :p
dj lightning	Posted - 2004.08.16 08:19:00 - [29] LakeFish > hi tommy boy! [ 2004.08.16 05:56:35 ] Tommycolinwolverine > wtf u doing? [ 2004.08.16 06:03:27 ] Buck Wilde > wtf y gyts doin [ 2004.08.16 06:03:34 ] Mike7 > Its a CFS station [ 2004.08.16 06:03:34 ] Buck Wilde > WHY ARE U ATTACKING STATOIN!!! [ 2004.08.16 06:03:40 ] Mike7 > we are reclaiming [ 2004.08.16 06:03:51 ] Buck Wilde > ok .... [ 2004.08.16 06:04:06 ] Qustaxian > reclaiming from whom? [ 2004.08.16 06:04:52 ] Buck Wilde > reclaiming from whom [ 2004.08.16 06:04:52 ] Mike7 > from ebil peeps [ 2004.08.16 06:05:07 ] Buck Wilde > it belongs to BIGs it says rite here [ 2004.08.16 06:05:13 ] Qustaxian > station info for me still says BIG [ 2004.08.16 06:05:22 ] Buck Wilde > same here [ 2004.08.16 06:05:29 ] Buck Wilde > stop firing it belongs to BIGs [ 2004.08.16 06:05:30 ] dj lightning > yup its bigs [ 2004.08.16 06:05:41 ] Buck Wilde > stop firing at statoin plz [ 2004.08.16 06:05:52 ] Buck Wilde > its under BIGs ownership [ 2004.08.16 06:06:04 ] Hquesinovium > u guys are gonna start a massive war [ 2004.08.16 06:06:14 ] Buck Wilde > seriously guys stop firing [ 2004.08.16 06:06:42 ] Tommy Boy > its in our treaty [ 2004.08.16 06:06:42 ] Buck Wilde > dont just come out of nowhere and start firing at the statoin all im going to say about this is that tommy boy is going to get his corp into alot of crap if he keeps doing this he keeps saying CFS have told him to take the base hes been a member for 14 days and i think hes a trouble maker so stop it now tommy dont make things worse.
dj lightning	Posted - 2004.08.16 08:19:00 - [30] LakeFish > hi tommy boy! [ 2004.08.16 05:56:35 ] Tommycolinwolverine > wtf u doing? [ 2004.08.16 06:03:27 ] Buck Wilde > wtf y gyts doin [ 2004.08.16 06:03:34 ] Mike7 > Its a CFS station [ 2004.08.16 06:03:34 ] Buck Wilde > WHY ARE U ATTACKING STATOIN!!! [ 2004.08.16 06:03:40 ] Mike7 > we are reclaiming [ 2004.08.16 06:03:51 ] Buck Wilde > ok .... [ 2004.08.16 06:04:06 ] Qustaxian > reclaiming from whom? [ 2004.08.16 06:04:52 ] Buck Wilde > reclaiming from whom [ 2004.08.16 06:04:52 ] Mike7 > from ebil peeps [ 2004.08.16 06:05:07 ] Buck Wilde > it belongs to BIGs it says rite here [ 2004.08.16 06:05:13 ] Qustaxian > station info for me still says BIG [ 2004.08.16 06:05:22 ] Buck Wilde > same here [ 2004.08.16 06:05:29 ] Buck Wilde > stop firing it belongs to BIGs [ 2004.08.16 06:05:30 ] dj lightning > yup its bigs [ 2004.08.16 06:05:41 ] Buck Wilde > stop firing at statoin plz [ 2004.08.16 06:05:52 ] Buck Wilde > its under BIGs ownership [ 2004.08.16 06:06:04 ] Hquesinovium > u guys are gonna start a massive war [ 2004.08.16 06:06:14 ] Buck Wilde > seriously guys stop firing [ 2004.08.16 06:06:42 ] Tommy Boy > its in our treaty [ 2004.08.16 06:06:42 ] Buck Wilde > dont just come out of nowhere and start firing at the statoin all im going to say about this is that tommy boy is going to get his corp into alot of crap if he keeps doing this he keeps saying CFS have told him to take the base hes been a member for 14 days and i think hes a trouble maker so stop it now tommy dont make things worse.
Qustaxian	Posted - 2004.08.16 08:21:00 - [31] Originally by: Cruz Originally by: Sagainyte Just an observation: Mike7 - member of Macrosoft for 14 days. hes an alt LOL Guess he's just another alt of yours then? [ 2004.08.16 06:34:46 ] Akula > who is your main Tommy? [ 2004.08.16 06:34:57 ] Assimulator > second time he's tried to take the station in 2 days] [ 2004.08.16 06:35:02 ] Cruz > Im tommys main lol
Qustaxian	Posted - 2004.08.16 08:21:00 - [32] Originally by: Cruz Originally by: Sagainyte Just an observation: Mike7 - member of Macrosoft for 14 days. hes an alt LOL Guess he's just another alt of yours then? [ 2004.08.16 06:34:46 ] Akula > who is your main Tommy? [ 2004.08.16 06:34:57 ] Assimulator > second time he's tried to take the station in 2 days] [ 2004.08.16 06:35:02 ] Cruz > Im tommys main lol
Sassinak	Posted - 2004.08.16 08:21:00 - [33] Originally by: dj lightning LakeFish > hi tommy boy! [ 2004.08.16 05:56:35 ] Tommycolinwolverine > wtf u doing? [ 2004.08.16 06:03:27 ] Buck Wilde > wtf y gyts doin [ 2004.08.16 06:03:34 ] Mike7 > Its a CFS station [ 2004.08.16 06:03:34 ] Buck Wilde > WHY ARE U ATTACKING STATOIN!!! [ 2004.08.16 06:03:40 ] Mike7 > we are reclaiming [ 2004.08.16 06:03:51 ] Buck Wilde > ok .... [ 2004.08.16 06:04:06 ] Qustaxian > reclaiming from whom? [ 2004.08.16 06:04:52 ] Buck Wilde > reclaiming from whom [ 2004.08.16 06:04:52 ] Mike7 > from ebil peeps [ 2004.08.16 06:05:07 ] Buck Wilde > it belongs to BIGs it says rite here [ 2004.08.16 06:05:13 ] Qustaxian > station info for me still says BIG [ 2004.08.16 06:05:22 ] Buck Wilde > same here [ 2004.08.16 06:05:29 ] Buck Wilde > stop firing it belongs to BIGs [ 2004.08.16 06:05:30 ] dj lightning > yup its bigs [ 2004.08.16 06:05:41 ] Buck Wilde > stop firing at statoin plz [ 2004.08.16 06:05:52 ] Buck Wilde > its under BIGs ownership [ 2004.08.16 06:06:04 ] Hquesinovium > u guys are gonna start a massive war [ 2004.08.16 06:06:14 ] Buck Wilde > seriously guys stop firing [ 2004.08.16 06:06:42 ] Tommy Boy > its in our treaty [ 2004.08.16 06:06:42 ] Buck Wilde > dont just come out of nowhere and start firing at the statoin all im going to say about this is that tommy boy is going to get his corp into alot of crap if he keeps doing this he keeps saying CFS have told him to take the base hes been a member for 14 days and i think hes a trouble maker so stop it now tommy dont make things worse. So it was a Big station,, then.. ? Sass Arcane Technologies
Sassinak	Posted - 2004.08.16 08:21:00 - [34] Originally by: dj lightning LakeFish > hi tommy boy! [ 2004.08.16 05:56:35 ] Tommycolinwolverine > wtf u doing? [ 2004.08.16 06:03:27 ] Buck Wilde > wtf y gyts doin [ 2004.08.16 06:03:34 ] Mike7 > Its a CFS station [ 2004.08.16 06:03:34 ] Buck Wilde > WHY ARE U ATTACKING STATOIN!!! [ 2004.08.16 06:03:40 ] Mike7 > we are reclaiming [ 2004.08.16 06:03:51 ] Buck Wilde > ok .... [ 2004.08.16 06:04:06 ] Qustaxian > reclaiming from whom? [ 2004.08.16 06:04:52 ] Buck Wilde > reclaiming from whom [ 2004.08.16 06:04:52 ] Mike7 > from ebil peeps [ 2004.08.16 06:05:07 ] Buck Wilde > it belongs to BIGs it says rite here [ 2004.08.16 06:05:13 ] Qustaxian > station info for me still says BIG [ 2004.08.16 06:05:22 ] Buck Wilde > same here [ 2004.08.16 06:05:29 ] Buck Wilde > stop firing it belongs to BIGs [ 2004.08.16 06:05:30 ] dj lightning > yup its bigs [ 2004.08.16 06:05:41 ] Buck Wilde > stop firing at statoin plz [ 2004.08.16 06:05:52 ] Buck Wilde > its under BIGs ownership [ 2004.08.16 06:06:04 ] Hquesinovium > u guys are gonna start a massive war [ 2004.08.16 06:06:14 ] Buck Wilde > seriously guys stop firing [ 2004.08.16 06:06:42 ] Tommy Boy > its in our treaty [ 2004.08.16 06:06:42 ] Buck Wilde > dont just come out of nowhere and start firing at the statoin all im going to say about this is that tommy boy is going to get his corp into alot of crap if he keeps doing this he keeps saying CFS have told him to take the base hes been a member for 14 days and i think hes a trouble maker so stop it now tommy dont make things worse. So it was a Big station,, then.. ? Sass Arcane Technologies
Cruz	Posted - 2004.08.16 08:26:00 - [35] Originally by: Qustaxian Originally by: Cruz Originally by: Sagainyte Just an observation: Mike7 - member of Macrosoft for 14 days. hes an alt LOL Guess he's just another alt of yours then? [ 2004.08.16 06:34:46 ] Akula > who is your main Tommy? [ 2004.08.16 06:34:57 ] Assimulator > second time he's tried to take the station in 2 days] [ 2004.08.16 06:35:02 ] Cruz > Im tommys main lol Ohh yes, Im also Lakefish's alt, and happen to be the alt of a few very influential political figures in eve btw Sassinak, its a BIG station in CFS space, that should rightfully belong to the CFS, but BIG refuses to answer our requests at making the station CFS owned, they refused that is until we began firing on the station to retake it. .................
Cruz	Posted - 2004.08.16 08:26:00 - [36] Originally by: Qustaxian Originally by: Cruz Originally by: Sagainyte Just an observation: Mike7 - member of Macrosoft for 14 days. hes an alt LOL Guess he's just another alt of yours then? [ 2004.08.16 06:34:46 ] Akula > who is your main Tommy? [ 2004.08.16 06:34:57 ] Assimulator > second time he's tried to take the station in 2 days] [ 2004.08.16 06:35:02 ] Cruz > Im tommys main lol Ohh yes, Im also Lakefish's alt, and happen to be the alt of a few very influential political figures in eve btw Sassinak, its a BIG station in CFS space, that should rightfully belong to the CFS, but BIG refuses to answer our requests at making the station CFS owned, they refused that is until we began firing on the station to retake it. .................
dj lightning	Posted - 2004.08.16 08:27:00 - [37] Originally by: Sassinak Originally by: dj lightning LakeFish > hi tommy boy! [ 2004.08.16 05:56:35 ] Tommycolinwolverine > wtf u doing? [ 2004.08.16 06:03:27 ] Buck Wilde > wtf y gyts doin [ 2004.08.16 06:03:34 ] Mike7 > Its a CFS station [ 2004.08.16 06:03:34 ] Buck Wilde > WHY ARE U ATTACKING STATOIN!!! [ 2004.08.16 06:03:40 ] Mike7 > we are reclaiming [ 2004.08.16 06:03:51 ] Buck Wilde > ok .... [ 2004.08.16 06:04:06 ] Qustaxian > reclaiming from whom? [ 2004.08.16 06:04:52 ] Buck Wilde > reclaiming from whom [ 2004.08.16 06:04:52 ] Mike7 > from ebil peeps [ 2004.08.16 06:05:07 ] Buck Wilde > it belongs to BIGs it says rite here [ 2004.08.16 06:05:13 ] Qustaxian > station info for me still says BIG [ 2004.08.16 06:05:22 ] Buck Wilde > same here [ 2004.08.16 06:05:29 ] Buck Wilde > stop firing it belongs to BIGs [ 2004.08.16 06:05:30 ] dj lightning > yup its bigs [ 2004.08.16 06:05:41 ] Buck Wilde > stop firing at statoin plz [ 2004.08.16 06:05:52 ] Buck Wilde > its under BIGs ownership [ 2004.08.16 06:06:04 ] Hquesinovium > u guys are gonna start a massive war [ 2004.08.16 06:06:14 ] Buck Wilde > seriously guys stop firing [ 2004.08.16 06:06:42 ] Tommy Boy > its in our treaty [ 2004.08.16 06:06:42 ] Buck Wilde > dont just come out of nowhere and start firing at the statoin all im going to say about this is that tommy boy is going to get his corp into alot of crap if he keeps doing this he keeps saying CFS have told him to take the base hes been a member for 14 days and i think hes a trouble maker so stop it now tommy dont make things worse. So it was a Big station,, then.. ? yes it was
dj lightning	Posted - 2004.08.16 08:27:00 - [38] Originally by: Sassinak Originally by: dj lightning LakeFish > hi tommy boy! [ 2004.08.16 05:56:35 ] Tommycolinwolverine > wtf u doing? [ 2004.08.16 06:03:27 ] Buck Wilde > wtf y gyts doin [ 2004.08.16 06:03:34 ] Mike7 > Its a CFS station [ 2004.08.16 06:03:34 ] Buck Wilde > WHY ARE U ATTACKING STATOIN!!! [ 2004.08.16 06:03:40 ] Mike7 > we are reclaiming [ 2004.08.16 06:03:51 ] Buck Wilde > ok .... [ 2004.08.16 06:04:06 ] Qustaxian > reclaiming from whom? [ 2004.08.16 06:04:52 ] Buck Wilde > reclaiming from whom [ 2004.08.16 06:04:52 ] Mike7 > from ebil peeps [ 2004.08.16 06:05:07 ] Buck Wilde > it belongs to BIGs it says rite here [ 2004.08.16 06:05:13 ] Qustaxian > station info for me still says BIG [ 2004.08.16 06:05:22 ] Buck Wilde > same here [ 2004.08.16 06:05:29 ] Buck Wilde > stop firing it belongs to BIGs [ 2004.08.16 06:05:30 ] dj lightning > yup its bigs [ 2004.08.16 06:05:41 ] Buck Wilde > stop firing at statoin plz [ 2004.08.16 06:05:52 ] Buck Wilde > its under BIGs ownership [ 2004.08.16 06:06:04 ] Hquesinovium > u guys are gonna start a massive war [ 2004.08.16 06:06:14 ] Buck Wilde > seriously guys stop firing [ 2004.08.16 06:06:42 ] Tommy Boy > its in our treaty [ 2004.08.16 06:06:42 ] Buck Wilde > dont just come out of nowhere and start firing at the statoin all im going to say about this is that tommy boy is going to get his corp into alot of crap if he keeps doing this he keeps saying CFS have told him to take the base hes been a member for 14 days and i think hes a trouble maker so stop it now tommy dont make things worse. So it was a Big station,, then.. ? yes it was
Cordova	Posted - 2004.08.16 08:30:00 - [39] ah finally, good luck CFS, because you'll need it against the arrogant and backstabbing peeps of BIG and Xanadu. ------------------------------ [url="http://helix.forums.fi/[/url] Director of Military Operations
Cordova	Posted - 2004.08.16 08:30:00 - [40] ah finally, good luck CFS, because you'll need it against the arrogant and backstabbing peeps of BIG and Xanadu. ------------------------------ [url="http://helix.forums.fi/[/url] Director of Military Operations
Vex Seraphim	Posted - 2004.08.16 08:35:00 - [41] Originally by: Cruz Edited by: Cruz on 16/08/2004 06:54:09 I think its time CFS takes control of stations in CFS, thats how it should always have been, and how it will be I hope. D'uh, what did you expect? them to be defending you with their big wallets and even paying for your losses perhaps? You are their wallets, you've put yourselves in this position now deal with it. ------------------- :: finite horizon :: killboard :: :: bio :: blog ::
Vex Seraphim	Posted - 2004.08.16 08:35:00 - [42] Originally by: Cruz Edited by: Cruz on 16/08/2004 06:54:09 I think its time CFS takes control of stations in CFS, thats how it should always have been, and how it will be I hope. D'uh, what did you expect? them to be defending you with their big wallets and even paying for your losses perhaps? You are their wallets, you've put yourselves in this position now deal with it. ------------------- :: finite horizon :: killboard :: :: bio :: blog ::
Arcanish	Posted - 2004.08.16 08:49:00 - [43] Originally by: Sagainyte It is perfectly understandable that the locals want to be rewarded for defending the station - I hear they owned a Shinra fleet down there 2-3 days ago. Was it 5 or 9 Shinra BS lost? So far, we've lost 3 battleships in CFS space, 2 thanks to bad bookmarks, and one cause the pilot wasen't careful enough. So far, we've killed about 100 battleships in CFS during the last 2 weeks.
Arcanish	Posted - 2004.08.16 08:49:00 - [44] Originally by: Sagainyte It is perfectly understandable that the locals want to be rewarded for defending the station - I hear they owned a Shinra fleet down there 2-3 days ago. Was it 5 or 9 Shinra BS lost? So far, we've lost 3 battleships in CFS space, 2 thanks to bad bookmarks, and one cause the pilot wasen't careful enough. So far, we've killed about 100 battleships in CFS during the last 2 weeks.
Estios	Posted - 2004.08.16 08:54:00 - [45] Can someone summarise coz chat logs that large hurt my eyes. We went into CFS space looking for CA on Saturday but heard they had all been destroyed. Whilst there we saw pilots from about 4 or 5 differently titled 'alliances'. Please can someone spell out for me which of the following are commencing hostilities against FA: CFS DSMA Star Alliance Devle Alliance Im deadly serious, I have NO clue what is the difference between all of these alliances and just need it clarified. Lets just say the intel could be a matter of life or death So HMV consider Andy Williams and Dean Martin to be "easy listening" do they? Tell that to my mate Dave, he's been deaf for 20 years.
Estios	Posted - 2004.08.16 08:54:00 - [46] Can someone summarise coz chat logs that large hurt my eyes. We went into CFS space looking for CA on Saturday but heard they had all been destroyed. Whilst there we saw pilots from about 4 or 5 differently titled 'alliances'. Please can someone spell out for me which of the following are commencing hostilities against FA: CFS DSMA Star Alliance Devle Alliance Im deadly serious, I have NO clue what is the difference between all of these alliances and just need it clarified. Lets just say the intel could be a matter of life or death So HMV consider Andy Williams and Dean Martin to be "easy listening" do they? Tell that to my mate Dave, he's been deaf for 20 years.
bikinikill	Posted - 2004.08.16 09:00:00 - [47] Quote: So far, we've lost 3 battleships in CFS space, 2 thanks to bad bookmarks, and one cause the pilot wasen't careful enough. So far, we've killed about 100 battleships in CFS during the last 2 weeks. wow. that's an awesome kill ratio. wait, you're CA. nm. gotta remember to take CA kill ratio claim's as a grain of salt on the forums. WE'VE KILLED 8127 BATTLESHIPS IN THE LAST 2 WEEKS AND LOST 4.2, AND 3.741 OF THAT 4.2 WERE DUE TO THINGS NOT OUR FAULT. WE ARE THE BEST.
bikinikill	Posted - 2004.08.16 09:00:00 - [48] Quote: So far, we've lost 3 battleships in CFS space, 2 thanks to bad bookmarks, and one cause the pilot wasen't careful enough. So far, we've killed about 100 battleships in CFS during the last 2 weeks. wow. that's an awesome kill ratio. wait, you're CA. nm. gotta remember to take CA kill ratio claim's as a grain of salt on the forums. WE'VE KILLED 8127 BATTLESHIPS IN THE LAST 2 WEEKS AND LOST 4.2, AND 3.741 OF THAT 4.2 WERE DUE TO THINGS NOT OUR FAULT. WE ARE THE BEST.
Arcanish	Posted - 2004.08.16 09:03:00 - [49] Edited by: Arcanish on 16/08/2004 09:05:39 Edited by: Arcanish on 16/08/2004 09:05:24 Originally by: bikinikill Quote: So far, we've lost 3 battleships in CFS space, 2 thanks to bad bookmarks, and one cause the pilot wasen't careful enough. So far, we've killed about 100 battleships in CFS during the last 2 weeks. wow. that's an awesome kill ratio. wait, you're CA. nm. gotta remember to take CA kill ratio claim's as a grain of salt on the forums. WE'VE KILLED 8127 BATTLESHIPS IN THE LAST 2 WEEKS AND LOST 4.2, AND 3.741 OF THAT 4.2 WERE DUE TO THINGS NOT OUR FAULT. WE ARE THE BEST. Go check our kill list. --> Linkage
Arcanish	Posted - 2004.08.16 09:03:00 - [50] Edited by: Arcanish on 16/08/2004 09:05:39 Edited by: Arcanish on 16/08/2004 09:05:24 Originally by: bikinikill Quote: So far, we've lost 3 battleships in CFS space, 2 thanks to bad bookmarks, and one cause the pilot wasen't careful enough. So far, we've killed about 100 battleships in CFS during the last 2 weeks. wow. that's an awesome kill ratio. wait, you're CA. nm. gotta remember to take CA kill ratio claim's as a grain of salt on the forums. WE'VE KILLED 8127 BATTLESHIPS IN THE LAST 2 WEEKS AND LOST 4.2, AND 3.741 OF THAT 4.2 WERE DUE TO THINGS NOT OUR FAULT. WE ARE THE BEST. Go check our kill list. --> Linkage
MAXSuicide	Posted - 2004.08.16 09:29:00 - [51] i wonder whether tommy talked to the CFS officials before carrying this out...if he hasnt it doesnt suprise me and this thread means nothing. (he's done things before without asking the leadership first) if it was accepted by CFS to fire on the stations then...go for it CFS!!!! and all the other alliances in there (This is my personal view and no others) My vids and random stuff
MAXSuicide	Posted - 2004.08.16 09:29:00 - [52] i wonder whether tommy talked to the CFS officials before carrying this out...if he hasnt it doesnt suprise me and this thread means nothing. (he's done things before without asking the leadership first) if it was accepted by CFS to fire on the stations then...go for it CFS!!!! and all the other alliances in there (This is my personal view and no others) My vids and random stuff
DAViiD	Posted - 2004.08.16 09:58:00 - [53] CFS has no guts to stand off FA... They never had, they never will . The corp that thinks that stations in CFS territory should be owned by CFS will prolly soon get out of CFS... Too bad, CFS like to play it that way i noticed. D. Lokan > This is more boring as listening to golf on radio!
DAViiD	Posted - 2004.08.16 09:58:00 - [54] CFS has no guts to stand off FA... They never had, they never will . The corp that thinks that stations in CFS territory should be owned by CFS will prolly soon get out of CFS... Too bad, CFS like to play it that way i noticed. D. Lokan > This is more boring as listening to golf on radio!
AvanCade	Posted - 2004.08.16 10:14:00 - [55] Okay, here it goes: CFS does not authorize any of such actions and that is exactly CFS' problem. They have no guts. And as a advertising slogan said: No Guts, No Glory So its a great idea even though it is not CFS supported and i dont think it will be. But someone has to rise and say: FA here is the end. Stop wtfpwning our space. Politics of CFS, especially a guy called RAINDROP is messing everything up. In a far far way the taking of the TPAR station would do good to CFS. BUT due politics non-CFS party should take it first to take it back to CFS. And BIG will reclaim it then. But you know what BIG sent to reclaime their station ? A guy in a IBIS !! Yeah thats right a noobship. Says e-nuff doesnt it. Time for FA is over. CFS should respond in a proper way to this and just stand up. If they dont stand up then CFS days are counted anyways. A militairy force, as we all know, costs money. Right now they are giving money for FREE to FA by docking and refining and stuff. Reclaiming would mean cash in CFS register. So then CFS would be able to bring a real militairy online. CFS had a militairy a week ago, called CFSDF which i was member of. They where the only ones really fighting. And guess what, there where like no CFS MEMBERS in that small 'coalition'. Bottem line is, what is in CFS space should be owned by CFS and not by guys from FA. IF FA actually came defending their station, then the story should be otherway around and then i think FA has a right to own the stations. But right now CFS is pulling every leg they have to defend them while FA is more powerfull and doing nothing (hmm or is CA wtfpwning them ?). Cheers, AC [former pilot CFSDF] [former member CFS]
AvanCade	Posted - 2004.08.16 10:14:00 - [56] Okay, here it goes: CFS does not authorize any of such actions and that is exactly CFS' problem. They have no guts. And as a advertising slogan said: No Guts, No Glory So its a great idea even though it is not CFS supported and i dont think it will be. But someone has to rise and say: FA here is the end. Stop wtfpwning our space. Politics of CFS, especially a guy called RAINDROP is messing everything up. In a far far way the taking of the TPAR station would do good to CFS. BUT due politics non-CFS party should take it first to take it back to CFS. And BIG will reclaim it then. But you know what BIG sent to reclaime their station ? A guy in a IBIS !! Yeah thats right a noobship. Says e-nuff doesnt it. Time for FA is over. CFS should respond in a proper way to this and just stand up. If they dont stand up then CFS days are counted anyways. A militairy force, as we all know, costs money. Right now they are giving money for FREE to FA by docking and refining and stuff. Reclaiming would mean cash in CFS register. So then CFS would be able to bring a real militairy online. CFS had a militairy a week ago, called CFSDF which i was member of. They where the only ones really fighting. And guess what, there where like no CFS MEMBERS in that small 'coalition'. Bottem line is, what is in CFS space should be owned by CFS and not by guys from FA. IF FA actually came defending their station, then the story should be otherway around and then i think FA has a right to own the stations. But right now CFS is pulling every leg they have to defend them while FA is more powerfull and doing nothing (hmm or is CA wtfpwning them ?). Cheers, AC [former pilot CFSDF] [former member CFS]
Vapouriz3r	Posted - 2004.08.16 10:27:00 - [57] Edited by: Vapouriz3r on 16/08/2004 10:28:54 Now if I was CFS I would do 2 things. First of all take all the FA controlled stations back FA can't send a force down as they are to busy playing blob wars with CA. So for as long as CA out in Fountain you guys won't see an FA fleet. Hell in the first chat log the BIG guy admitted that fact that FA are busy. Secondly I'd get someone to talk with CA and see if you guys can create a NAP based on they help you out if FA attack your stations and won't attack CFS as long as the stations are in CFS control.
Vapouriz3r	Posted - 2004.08.16 10:27:00 - [58] Edited by: Vapouriz3r on 16/08/2004 10:28:54 Now if I was CFS I would do 2 things. First of all take all the FA controlled stations back FA can't send a force down as they are to busy playing blob wars with CA. So for as long as CA out in Fountain you guys won't see an FA fleet. Hell in the first chat log the BIG guy admitted that fact that FA are busy. Secondly I'd get someone to talk with CA and see if you guys can create a NAP based on they help you out if FA attack your stations and won't attack CFS as long as the stations are in CFS control.
Sassinak	Posted - 2004.08.16 10:35:00 - [59] Originally by: Cruz Ohh yes, Im also Lakefish's alt, and happen to be the alt of a few very influential political figures in eve btw Sassinak, its a BIG station in CFS space, that should rightfully belong to the CFS, but BIG refuses to answer our requests at making the station CFS owned, they refused that is until we began firing on the station to retake it. Ok cool then So you must be: Xirtams Alt? TRIGGERS Alt? Duke Drocklars Alt? Halseth Durns Alt? Robeyones Alt? Hmm Lets see now.. Alex Belani? Notferr? Phonix? Cao Cao? Tornsoul? Sirmolle? Jade Constantine? OMG YOU COULD EVEN BE ME? ( Not that I actually have political influence tbh) But you gotta be one of those Important people though,,, Right?.. No? Sass Arcane Technologies
Sassinak	Posted - 2004.08.16 10:35:00 - [60] Originally by: Cruz Ohh yes, Im also Lakefish's alt, and happen to be the alt of a few very influential political figures in eve btw Sassinak, its a BIG station in CFS space, that should rightfully belong to the CFS, but BIG refuses to answer our requests at making the station CFS owned, they refused that is until we began firing on the station to retake it. Ok cool then So you must be: Xirtams Alt? TRIGGERS Alt? Duke Drocklars Alt? Halseth Durns Alt? Robeyones Alt? Hmm Lets see now.. Alex Belani? Notferr? Phonix? Cao Cao? Tornsoul? Sirmolle? Jade Constantine? OMG YOU COULD EVEN BE ME? ( Not that I actually have political influence tbh) But you gotta be one of those Important people though,,, Right?.. No? Sass Arcane Technologies
Shredder	Posted - 2004.08.16 10:44:00 - [61] Edited by: Shredder on 16/08/2004 10:47:17 Originally by: Sagainyte Edited by: Sagainyte on 16/08/2004 08:08:10 All I'm saying is that this thread looks a little "Renegade" to me. I certainly see no offical marking by the main poster. I also doubt any leader of CFS would post logs on official forums. A diplomat might as well put a gun to his head. It is perfectly understandable that the locals want to be rewarded for defending the station - I hear they owned a Shinra fleet down there 2-3 days ago. Was it 5 or 9 Shinra BS lost? The best thing to do is to trust the leaders to come to a mutually beneficial and fair deal. That is afterall the good thing about the region. It's not populated by rabid shot'em all dogs like CA :p WTF, shinra has lost a TOTAL of 3 battleships, each were indevidual losses due to mistakes and gankings by cfs and stain. Over the week that weve been here weve taken out SEVENTY, YES SEVENTY CFS//star alliance battleships, and if you dont believe that number go COUNT on the CA kill lists, theyre all there (thats not inccluding RUS kills). We have not lost a SINGLE battle againt you guys and have pretty much demolished any resistance weve come across. If youre under the illusion that either FA or CFS hold this space then you are very much mistaken, the only area held by CFS is TPAR, and that will change shortly. Please do not make up bull**** comments like 'you destroyed a shinra fleet'. oh and before i finished this there goes 3 more battleships, all logged go read. We have made no threads about our operations in CFS space because we dont feel the need to brag about killing cfs noobs, but dont you come here talking rubbish about us being killed. #END RANT#
Shredder	Posted - 2004.08.16 10:44:00 - [62] Edited by: Shredder on 16/08/2004 10:47:17 Originally by: Sagainyte Edited by: Sagainyte on 16/08/2004 08:08:10 All I'm saying is that this thread looks a little "Renegade" to me. I certainly see no offical marking by the main poster. I also doubt any leader of CFS would post logs on official forums. A diplomat might as well put a gun to his head. It is perfectly understandable that the locals want to be rewarded for defending the station - I hear they owned a Shinra fleet down there 2-3 days ago. Was it 5 or 9 Shinra BS lost? The best thing to do is to trust the leaders to come to a mutually beneficial and fair deal. That is afterall the good thing about the region. It's not populated by rabid shot'em all dogs like CA :p WTF, shinra has lost a TOTAL of 3 battleships, each were indevidual losses due to mistakes and gankings by cfs and stain. Over the week that weve been here weve taken out SEVENTY, YES SEVENTY CFS//star alliance battleships, and if you dont believe that number go COUNT on the CA kill lists, theyre all there (thats not inccluding RUS kills). We have not lost a SINGLE battle againt you guys and have pretty much demolished any resistance weve come across. If youre under the illusion that either FA or CFS hold this space then you are very much mistaken, the only area held by CFS is TPAR, and that will change shortly. Please do not make up bull**** comments like 'you destroyed a shinra fleet'. oh and before i finished this there goes 3 more battleships, all logged go read. We have made no threads about our operations in CFS space because we dont feel the need to brag about killing cfs noobs, but dont you come here talking rubbish about us being killed. #END RANT#
DeMundus	Posted - 2004.08.16 10:45:00 - [63] Edited by: DeMundus on 16/08/2004 10:53:08 Edited by: DeMundus on 16/08/2004 10:49:56 Edited by: DeMundus on 16/08/2004 10:47:14 ShinRa has not lost 9 BS. 3 bs from 8 aug -16 aug, Thats the time we have been in Delve and TPAR. So far the bs kill ratio is about 1:60. We have been doing a really good job around CFS space no daoubt about that. In TPAR we fought 8 vs 13, we where out numbered and took out 9 of the 13, 8 bs and 1 frig, no losses. So far we got like 500 m. worth in loot in a very good safespot;) Treasure Island man! or is it Treasure Planet.... ShinRa would like to say thx for all the nice stuff! All your Delve base are belong to us -HyperBaton, ShinRa
DeMundus	Posted - 2004.08.16 10:45:00 - [64] Edited by: DeMundus on 16/08/2004 10:53:08 Edited by: DeMundus on 16/08/2004 10:49:56 Edited by: DeMundus on 16/08/2004 10:47:14 ShinRa has not lost 9 BS. 3 bs from 8 aug -16 aug, Thats the time we have been in Delve and TPAR. So far the bs kill ratio is about 1:60. We have been doing a really good job around CFS space no daoubt about that. In TPAR we fought 8 vs 13, we where out numbered and took out 9 of the 13, 8 bs and 1 frig, no losses. So far we got like 500 m. worth in loot in a very good safespot;) Treasure Island man! or is it Treasure Planet.... ShinRa would like to say thx for all the nice stuff! All your Delve base are belong to us -HyperBaton, ShinRa
Raindrop	Posted - 2004.08.16 10:49:00 - [65] Official CFS statement not open to discussion on this matter: Said pilots attacking T-PAR station are doing so without the permission from CFS-Senate or CFS-Council. Raindrop Trader of low end stuff and NPC goods. Recycler of junk.
Raindrop	Posted - 2004.08.16 10:49:00 - [66] Official CFS statement not open to discussion on this matter: Said pilots attacking T-PAR station are doing so without the permission from CFS-Senate or CFS-Council. Raindrop Trader of low end stuff and NPC goods. Recycler of junk.
AvanCade	Posted - 2004.08.16 10:55:00 - [67] Originally by: Vapouriz3r Edited by: Vapouriz3r on 16/08/2004 10:28:54 Now if I was CFS I would do 2 things. First of all take all the FA controlled stations back FA can't send a force down as they are to busy playing blob wars with CA. So for as long as CA out in Fountain you guys won't see an FA fleet. Hell in the first chat log the BIG guy admitted that fact that FA are busy. Secondly I'd get someone to talk with CA and see if you guys can create a NAP based on they help you out if FA attack your stations and won't attack CFS as long as the stations are in CFS control. Exactly, but CFS (read King Raindrop) does not want a NAP with CA. And thats the whole friggin point ! Yes, CFS is anti-pirate, but not all CA are pirates, right ? Then use the common interest that CFS and CA has ! For gods sake ! But King Raindrop doesnt want that. CFSDF (the militairy force) arranged some kinda NAP with Shinra, but CFS immeadiatly responded by putting CFSDF on the KOS list because they 'cooperated' with Shinra. Is CFS so stubborn so that they cant see the bigger picture? YES !
AvanCade	Posted - 2004.08.16 10:55:00 - [68] Originally by: Vapouriz3r Edited by: Vapouriz3r on 16/08/2004 10:28:54 Now if I was CFS I would do 2 things. First of all take all the FA controlled stations back FA can't send a force down as they are to busy playing blob wars with CA. So for as long as CA out in Fountain you guys won't see an FA fleet. Hell in the first chat log the BIG guy admitted that fact that FA are busy. Secondly I'd get someone to talk with CA and see if you guys can create a NAP based on they help you out if FA attack your stations and won't attack CFS as long as the stations are in CFS control. Exactly, but CFS (read King Raindrop) does not want a NAP with CA. And thats the whole friggin point ! Yes, CFS is anti-pirate, but not all CA are pirates, right ? Then use the common interest that CFS and CA has ! For gods sake ! But King Raindrop doesnt want that. CFSDF (the militairy force) arranged some kinda NAP with Shinra, but CFS immeadiatly responded by putting CFSDF on the KOS list because they 'cooperated' with Shinra. Is CFS so stubborn so that they cant see the bigger picture? YES !
AvanCade	Posted - 2004.08.16 10:56:00 - [69] Originally by: Raindrop Official CFS statement not open to discussion on this matter: Said pilots attacking T-PAR station are doing so without the permission from CFS-Senate or CFS-Council. As i said, n-o-t--w-i-l-l-i-n-g--t-o--d-o--w-h-a-t--i-s--r-e-a-l-l-y--n-e-e-d-e-d
AvanCade	Posted - 2004.08.16 10:56:00 - [70] Originally by: Raindrop Official CFS statement not open to discussion on this matter: Said pilots attacking T-PAR station are doing so without the permission from CFS-Senate or CFS-Council. As i said, n-o-t--w-i-l-l-i-n-g--t-o--d-o--w-h-a-t--i-s--r-e-a-l-l-y--n-e-e-d-e-d
Mituno Sakai	Posted - 2004.08.16 10:59:00 - [71] It now seems obvious that this incident was carried out by CA alts. ..and they tried their best to keep the discussion alive on this thread. But all the arguments kinda lose their bite when you know it's CA people posting. I must admit it's nice to see CA finally realising there is more to this game than just trying to blow everyone up they meet :) Perhaps there is hope for you yet post shiva.
Mituno Sakai	Posted - 2004.08.16 10:59:00 - [72] It now seems obvious that this incident was carried out by CA alts. ..and they tried their best to keep the discussion alive on this thread. But all the arguments kinda lose their bite when you know it's CA people posting. I must admit it's nice to see CA finally realising there is more to this game than just trying to blow everyone up they meet :) Perhaps there is hope for you yet post shiva.
Mr Blonde	Posted - 2004.08.16 11:01:00 - [73] Originally by: AvanCade Originally by: Vapouriz3r Edited by: Vapouriz3r on 16/08/2004 10:28:54 Now if I was CFS I would do 2 things. First of all take all the FA controlled stations back FA can't send a force down as they are to busy playing blob wars with CA. So for as long as CA out in Fountain you guys won't see an FA fleet. Hell in the first chat log the BIG guy admitted that fact that FA are busy. Secondly I'd get someone to talk with CA and see if you guys can create a NAP based on they help you out if FA attack your stations and won't attack CFS as long as the stations are in CFS control. Exactly, but CFS (read King Raindrop) does not want a NAP with CA. And thats the whole friggin point ! Yes, CFS is anti-pirate, but not all CA are pirates, right ? Then use the common interest that CFS and CA has ! For gods sake ! But King Raindrop doesnt want that. CFSDF (the militairy force) arranged some kinda NAP with Shinra, but CFS immeadiatly responded by putting CFSDF on the KOS list because they 'cooperated' with Shinra. Is CFS so stubborn so that they cant see the bigger picture? YES ! I dont think you get the bigger picture. If CFS napped themselves with Curse it would probably be pretty much the last thing they ever did. __________________________________________ Are you gonna bark all day, little doggy, or are you gonna bite??
Mr Blonde	Posted - 2004.08.16 11:01:00 - [74] Originally by: AvanCade Originally by: Vapouriz3r Edited by: Vapouriz3r on 16/08/2004 10:28:54 Now if I was CFS I would do 2 things. First of all take all the FA controlled stations back FA can't send a force down as they are to busy playing blob wars with CA. So for as long as CA out in Fountain you guys won't see an FA fleet. Hell in the first chat log the BIG guy admitted that fact that FA are busy. Secondly I'd get someone to talk with CA and see if you guys can create a NAP based on they help you out if FA attack your stations and won't attack CFS as long as the stations are in CFS control. Exactly, but CFS (read King Raindrop) does not want a NAP with CA. And thats the whole friggin point ! Yes, CFS is anti-pirate, but not all CA are pirates, right ? Then use the common interest that CFS and CA has ! For gods sake ! But King Raindrop doesnt want that. CFSDF (the militairy force) arranged some kinda NAP with Shinra, but CFS immeadiatly responded by putting CFSDF on the KOS list because they 'cooperated' with Shinra. Is CFS so stubborn so that they cant see the bigger picture? YES ! I dont think you get the bigger picture. If CFS napped themselves with Curse it would probably be pretty much the last thing they ever did. __________________________________________ Are you gonna bark all day, little doggy, or are you gonna bite??
Sassinak	Posted - 2004.08.16 11:01:00 - [75] Originally by: AvanCade Originally by: Vapouriz3r Edited by: Vapouriz3r on 16/08/2004 10:28:54 Now if I was CFS I would do 2 things. First of all take all the FA controlled stations back FA can't send a force down as they are to busy playing blob wars with CA. So for as long as CA out in Fountain you guys won't see an FA fleet. Hell in the first chat log the BIG guy admitted that fact that FA are busy. Secondly I'd get someone to talk with CA and see if you guys can create a NAP based on they help you out if FA attack your stations and won't attack CFS as long as the stations are in CFS control. Exactly, but CFS (read King Raindrop) does not want a NAP with CA. And thats the whole friggin point ! Yes, CFS is anti-pirate, but not all CA are pirates, right ? Then use the common interest that CFS and CA has ! For gods sake ! But King Raindrop doesnt want that. CFSDF (the militairy force) arranged some kinda NAP with Shinra, but CFS immeadiatly responded by putting CFSDF on the KOS list because they 'cooperated' with Shinra. Is CFS so stubborn so that they cant see the bigger picture? YES ! Why do you think the CFS are like the Dodo's of Eve they make themselves Extinct by being stubbourn and not actually possess the skill to be stubbourn. Sass Arcane Technologies
Sassinak	Posted - 2004.08.16 11:01:00 - [76] Originally by: AvanCade Originally by: Vapouriz3r Edited by: Vapouriz3r on 16/08/2004 10:28:54 Now if I was CFS I would do 2 things. First of all take all the FA controlled stations back FA can't send a force down as they are to busy playing blob wars with CA. So for as long as CA out in Fountain you guys won't see an FA fleet. Hell in the first chat log the BIG guy admitted that fact that FA are busy. Secondly I'd get someone to talk with CA and see if you guys can create a NAP based on they help you out if FA attack your stations and won't attack CFS as long as the stations are in CFS control. Exactly, but CFS (read King Raindrop) does not want a NAP with CA. And thats the whole friggin point ! Yes, CFS is anti-pirate, but not all CA are pirates, right ? Then use the common interest that CFS and CA has ! For gods sake ! But King Raindrop doesnt want that. CFSDF (the militairy force) arranged some kinda NAP with Shinra, but CFS immeadiatly responded by putting CFSDF on the KOS list because they 'cooperated' with Shinra. Is CFS so stubborn so that they cant see the bigger picture? YES ! Why do you think the CFS are like the Dodo's of Eve they make themselves Extinct by being stubbourn and not actually possess the skill to be stubbourn. Sass Arcane Technologies
CKOZUK	Posted - 2004.08.16 11:04:00 - [77] Bah just take the stations and see what happens. The above text is my own views which may not represent my corps views.
CKOZUK	Posted - 2004.08.16 11:04:00 - [78] Bah just take the stations and see what happens. The above text is my own views which may not represent my corps views.
MAXSuicide	Posted - 2004.08.16 11:04:00 - [79] no none of them r alts. My vids and random stuff
MAXSuicide	Posted - 2004.08.16 11:04:00 - [80] no none of them r alts. My vids and random stuff
AvanCade	Posted - 2004.08.16 11:05:00 - [81] Helloooooooooooooooooooo ?? Have you even ever been in CFS space ? Did you ever get involved with CFS politics ? I DONT THINK SO !! CA took all the stations [cept all BA ones] so CFS can take em back withouth policital repercussions. THEY EVEN OFFERED IT FOR CRYING OUT LOUD ! So who isnt seeing the bigger picture. Even though its only to hurt FA, but it as well helps CFS, so why not benefit of the situation as everyone would ! Pride is such a harsh thing. it'nt it ?
AvanCade	Posted - 2004.08.16 11:05:00 - [82] Helloooooooooooooooooooo ?? Have you even ever been in CFS space ? Did you ever get involved with CFS politics ? I DONT THINK SO !! CA took all the stations [cept all BA ones] so CFS can take em back withouth policital repercussions. THEY EVEN OFFERED IT FOR CRYING OUT LOUD ! So who isnt seeing the bigger picture. Even though its only to hurt FA, but it as well helps CFS, so why not benefit of the situation as everyone would ! Pride is such a harsh thing. it'nt it ?
AvanCade	Posted - 2004.08.16 11:07:00 - [83] Originally by: CKOZUK Bah just take the stations and see what happens. Yeh, CFS is dead anyway if they don't change fast [/doomthink]
AvanCade	Posted - 2004.08.16 11:07:00 - [84] Originally by: CKOZUK Bah just take the stations and see what happens. Yeh, CFS is dead anyway if they don't change fast [/doomthink]
Kate Libby	Posted - 2004.08.16 11:11:00 - [85] Originally by: Vapouriz3r Edited by: Vapouriz3r on 16/08/2004 10:28:54 Now if I was CFS I would do 2 things. First of all take all the FA controlled stations back FA can't send a force down as they are to busy playing blob wars with CA. So for as long as CA out in Fountain you guys won't see an FA fleet. Hell in the first chat log the BIG guy admitted that fact that FA are busy. Secondly I'd get someone to talk with CA and see if you guys can create a NAP based on they help you out if FA attack your stations and won't attack CFS as long as the stations are in CFS control. unfortunally would such nap not be accepted by many of the non-cfs corperations that are operating in cfs space, and those are in greater numbers then cfs is so it wouldn't help CA at all they will still get shot all over the place . aswell are there most likely several points in the CFS chapters that would make this impossible. and well the stations, my opinion is that if u want to conquer and keep a station that u should have enough militairy (be it your own or combined with allies that support u and that can use the station free of any charge). if u need to allie up with ca to keep the stations u should go back to empire. And the station holder (in this case FA) should make sure that the people (be it cfs or from another allience or just local people.) that are Defending the station every day are getting everything they deserve, wich is no docking fees no refining fees, or just anything that cost them isk should be reduced to zero asfar possible, THAT speaks of respect for a job well done. And that is what i can't find back at FA's stations management. they are always busy somewhere else if there's need to protect the stations, and sure they are doing their job fighting ca aswell but simply letting other people defend your property with nothing to very little in return will cause troubles for sure, let alone the headaches it causes Just checking my sexy tools... ASCI - Neutralized Ships [-]i¦m too old for th
Kate Libby	Posted - 2004.08.16 11:11:00 - [86] Originally by: Vapouriz3r Edited by: Vapouriz3r on 16/08/2004 10:28:54 Now if I was CFS I would do 2 things. First of all take all the FA controlled stations back FA can't send a force down as they are to busy playing blob wars with CA. So for as long as CA out in Fountain you guys won't see an FA fleet. Hell in the first chat log the BIG guy admitted that fact that FA are busy. Secondly I'd get someone to talk with CA and see if you guys can create a NAP based on they help you out if FA attack your stations and won't attack CFS as long as the stations are in CFS control. unfortunally would such nap not be accepted by many of the non-cfs corperations that are operating in cfs space, and those are in greater numbers then cfs is so it wouldn't help CA at all they will still get shot all over the place . aswell are there most likely several points in the CFS chapters that would make this impossible. and well the stations, my opinion is that if u want to conquer and keep a station that u should have enough militairy (be it your own or combined with allies that support u and that can use the station free of any charge). if u need to allie up with ca to keep the stations u should go back to empire. And the station holder (in this case FA) should make sure that the people (be it cfs or from another allience or just local people.) that are Defending the station every day are getting everything they deserve, wich is no docking fees no refining fees, or just anything that cost them isk should be reduced to zero asfar possible, THAT speaks of respect for a job well done. And that is what i can't find back at FA's stations management. they are always busy somewhere else if there's need to protect the stations, and sure they are doing their job fighting ca aswell but simply letting other people defend your property with nothing to very little in return will cause troubles for sure, let alone the headaches it causes Just checking my sexy tools... ASCI - Neutralized Ships [-]i¦m too old for th
Shredder	Posted - 2004.08.16 11:14:00 - [87] Edited by: Shredder on 16/08/2004 11:19:21 I'd just like to add a few points which Shinra has learnt whilst being in CFS space regarding FA's station control. Firstly most stations in the area are run with a 5% refine tax. Secondly most stations run a docking fee. Thirdly ive been told by a couple of corporations that they paid 120million to BIG to rent offices in stations (this may apply to all corporations that rent offices there i dont know). All of this in their own space? Ive also been told that this is in return for FA's protection, well to be honest i havnt seen any FA protecting you. We've been here a week, and we have seen like one battleship from FA, oh except for that dsma 10 battleship force which we came across (allies of FA) ...we destroyed 8 of those battleships in a single engagement. Prior to the bulk of our hostilities in the area we were running several cease fire//NAP agreements till the CFS council and CA councils were able to look at posibilities of more long term NAPS, that never got to the CA council as CFS//Star alliance decided to declare war on us. CFS sit in their own space paying bucket loads of cash a day to FA, FA dont do anything to earn it, and it isnt their space. Wheen over the past 6months has FA EVER defended A2? ive never seen them, ive only seen CFDF pilots, why is CFS defending its own space whilst paying for FA defence. Its a ridiculas situation. Regarding the point made above about non CFS aligned corporations etc: we've been in contact with many of those corporations and are running NAPS//cease fires with them, some are moving to empire space till conflicts are over, and most agree with us, i also think they're pretty annoyed at CFSs' stance on the whole thing.
Shredder	Posted - 2004.08.16 11:14:00 - [88] Edited by: Shredder on 16/08/2004 11:19:21 I'd just like to add a few points which Shinra has learnt whilst being in CFS space regarding FA's station control. Firstly most stations in the area are run with a 5% refine tax. Secondly most stations run a docking fee. Thirdly ive been told by a couple of corporations that they paid 120million to BIG to rent offices in stations (this may apply to all corporations that rent offices there i dont know). All of this in their own space? Ive also been told that this is in return for FA's protection, well to be honest i havnt seen any FA protecting you. We've been here a week, and we have seen like one battleship from FA, oh except for that dsma 10 battleship force which we came across (allies of FA) ...we destroyed 8 of those battleships in a single engagement. Prior to the bulk of our hostilities in the area we were running several cease fire//NAP agreements till the CFS council and CA councils were able to look at posibilities of more long term NAPS, that never got to the CA council as CFS//Star alliance decided to declare war on us. CFS sit in their own space paying bucket loads of cash a day to FA, FA dont do anything to earn it, and it isnt their space. Wheen over the past 6months has FA EVER defended A2? ive never seen them, ive only seen CFDF pilots, why is CFS defending its own space whilst paying for FA defence. Its a ridiculas situation. Regarding the point made above about non CFS aligned corporations etc: we've been in contact with many of those corporations and are running NAPS//cease fires with them, some are moving to empire space till conflicts are over, and most agree with us, i also think they're pretty annoyed at CFSs' stance on the whole thing.
Vapouriz3r	Posted - 2004.08.16 11:17:00 - [89] Originally by: AvanCade Exactly, but CFS (read King Raindrop) does not want a NAP with CA. And thats the whole friggin point ! Yes, CFS is anti-pirate, but not all CA are pirates, right ? Then use the common interest that CFS and CA has ! For gods sake ! But King Raindrop doesnt want that. CFSDF (the militairy force) arranged some kinda NAP with Shinra, but CFS immeadiatly responded by putting CFSDF on the KOS list because they 'cooperated' with Shinra. Is CFS so stubborn so that they cant see the bigger picture? YES ! No not all CA are pirates. As has probably been said many a time the only reason CA go to CFS is when they are bored and the only issue CA have with CFS now is the fact that the stations are controlled by FA. So with CFS letting FA keep the stations and not attempting talks with CA they are loosing 60+ BS a week to CA AND they don't even get help from FA. When was the last time FA sent down a fleet to help CFS when a2- and the chain was camped? Or when Delve and period basis were under assault. FA charge a % on your refines they charge you docking fees BUT they don't offer anything in return apart from letting you use the stations.
Vapouriz3r	Posted - 2004.08.16 11:17:00 - [90] Originally by: AvanCade Exactly, but CFS (read King Raindrop) does not want a NAP with CA. And thats the whole friggin point ! Yes, CFS is anti-pirate, but not all CA are pirates, right ? Then use the common interest that CFS and CA has ! For gods sake ! But King Raindrop doesnt want that. CFSDF (the militairy force) arranged some kinda NAP with Shinra, but CFS immeadiatly responded by putting CFSDF on the KOS list because they 'cooperated' with Shinra. Is CFS so stubborn so that they cant see the bigger picture? YES ! No not all CA are pirates. As has probably been said many a time the only reason CA go to CFS is when they are bored and the only issue CA have with CFS now is the fact that the stations are controlled by FA. So with CFS letting FA keep the stations and not attempting talks with CA they are loosing 60+ BS a week to CA AND they don't even get help from FA. When was the last time FA sent down a fleet to help CFS when a2- and the chain was camped? Or when Delve and period basis were under assault. FA charge a % on your refines they charge you docking fees BUT they don't offer anything in return apart from letting you use the stations.
Vex Seraphim	Posted - 2004.08.16 11:22:00 - [91] CFS was a noble idea, but things just don't work that way. CES, that is, 'Coalition of Enslaved Stars' is more fitting considering the ways FA is handling you guys. No, your idea wouldn't work work even if FA haven't been there, simply because another alliance would have jumped on the opportunity. I honestly do not think that you have enough military to stand up to either CA or FA, although i must note that you guys are honorable fighters, or atleast that's what i have seen so far. Anyway, to the point: either reform your alliance with FA making sure you will henceforth own your stations, or muster an army strong enough to hold your against everybody. ------------------- :: finite horizon :: killboard :: :: bio :: blog ::
Vex Seraphim	Posted - 2004.08.16 11:22:00 - [92] CFS was a noble idea, but things just don't work that way. CES, that is, 'Coalition of Enslaved Stars' is more fitting considering the ways FA is handling you guys. No, your idea wouldn't work work even if FA haven't been there, simply because another alliance would have jumped on the opportunity. I honestly do not think that you have enough military to stand up to either CA or FA, although i must note that you guys are honorable fighters, or atleast that's what i have seen so far. Anyway, to the point: either reform your alliance with FA making sure you will henceforth own your stations, or muster an army strong enough to hold your against everybody. ------------------- :: finite horizon :: killboard :: :: bio :: blog ::
MAXSuicide	Posted - 2004.08.16 11:23:00 - [93] tbh Xanadu sent a fleet down last time shinra were in delve. that was 2 months ago i think My vids and random stuff
MAXSuicide	Posted - 2004.08.16 11:23:00 - [94] tbh Xanadu sent a fleet down last time shinra were in delve. that was 2 months ago i think My vids and random stuff
Reverend Necrona	Posted - 2004.08.16 11:24:00 - [95] Edited by: Reverend Necrona on 16/08/2004 11:26:34 Sounds somewhat similar as to whats going on in NORAD. FA promised they'd defend their "LONG TIME" allies. Have we seen any FA assitance while we gallavant around NORAD space decimating their fleets? Have we bugger. No instead FA camps YZ-LQL with their imobile 40+ battleship fleet. Now i like to pvp, but i aint jumping into 40 battleshps, drones deployed, frigates/cruiser support and warp disruptors, with the current state of the servers. I'd love to some day do that, but untill ccp sorts it out we simply let Fountain sit and blob, while we anhilate all they swore to protect and assist. Reverend Necrona
Reverend Necrona	Posted - 2004.08.16 11:24:00 - [96] Edited by: Reverend Necrona on 16/08/2004 11:26:34 Sounds somewhat similar as to whats going on in NORAD. FA promised they'd defend their "LONG TIME" allies. Have we seen any FA assitance while we gallavant around NORAD space decimating their fleets? Have we bugger. No instead FA camps YZ-LQL with their imobile 40+ battleship fleet. Now i like to pvp, but i aint jumping into 40 battleshps, drones deployed, frigates/cruiser support and warp disruptors, with the current state of the servers. I'd love to some day do that, but untill ccp sorts it out we simply let Fountain sit and blob, while we anhilate all they swore to protect and assist. Reverend Necrona
Vapouriz3r	Posted - 2004.08.16 11:24:00 - [97] Originally by: Kate Libby unfortunally would such nap not be accepted by many of the non-cfs corperations that are operating in cfs space, and those are in greater numbers then cfs is so it wouldn't help CA at all they will still get shot all over the place . LOL you make it out like CA get there asses handed to them all the time in CFS space.I'd say 95% of the engagements CA has with CFS and friends they CA win. CA don't need CFS help so I've got no idea what your waffling on about.
Vapouriz3r	Posted - 2004.08.16 11:24:00 - [98] Originally by: Kate Libby unfortunally would such nap not be accepted by many of the non-cfs corperations that are operating in cfs space, and those are in greater numbers then cfs is so it wouldn't help CA at all they will still get shot all over the place . LOL you make it out like CA get there asses handed to them all the time in CFS space.I'd say 95% of the engagements CA has with CFS and friends they CA win. CA don't need CFS help so I've got no idea what your waffling on about.
AvanCade	Posted - 2004.08.16 11:26:00 - [99] I have never seen so much outsiders AND opponents understanding what the situation really is like ! Good !
AvanCade	Posted - 2004.08.16 11:26:00 - [100] I have never seen so much outsiders AND opponents understanding what the situation really is like ! Good !
Mr Blonde	Posted - 2004.08.16 11:27:00 - [101] Originally by: AvanCade Helloooooooooooooooooooo ?? Have you even ever been in CFS space ? Did you ever get involved with CFS politics ? I DONT THINK SO !! CA took all the stations [cept all BA ones] so CFS can take em back withouth policital repercussions. THEY EVEN OFFERED IT FOR CRYING OUT LOUD ! So who isnt seeing the bigger picture. Even though its only to hurt FA, but it as well helps CFS, so why not benefit of the situation as everyone would ! Pride is such a harsh thing. it'nt it ? So? I'm not saying the CA's strategy to try to weaken the FA by taking away its allies is a bad one, but in the end that is what it is. The CA have no interest in helping the CFS, only in breaking their relationship with the FA. But what happens after this is all done? The CFS might have a week or two of "peace" depending on how the other alliances (Star Alliances, Delve Protectorate etc) react, and when CA go back to Curse space they will sit there, between the FA and Stain, and have no one to fall back on. Or do you actually think that the CA who cant even defend their own space will come down to help them after having finished using them? __________________________________________ Are you gonna bark all day, little doggy, or are you gonna bite??
Mr Blonde	Posted - 2004.08.16 11:27:00 - [102] Originally by: AvanCade Helloooooooooooooooooooo ?? Have you even ever been in CFS space ? Did you ever get involved with CFS politics ? I DONT THINK SO !! CA took all the stations [cept all BA ones] so CFS can take em back withouth policital repercussions. THEY EVEN OFFERED IT FOR CRYING OUT LOUD ! So who isnt seeing the bigger picture. Even though its only to hurt FA, but it as well helps CFS, so why not benefit of the situation as everyone would ! Pride is such a harsh thing. it'nt it ? So? I'm not saying the CA's strategy to try to weaken the FA by taking away its allies is a bad one, but in the end that is what it is. The CA have no interest in helping the CFS, only in breaking their relationship with the FA. But what happens after this is all done? The CFS might have a week or two of "peace" depending on how the other alliances (Star Alliances, Delve Protectorate etc) react, and when CA go back to Curse space they will sit there, between the FA and Stain, and have no one to fall back on. Or do you actually think that the CA who cant even defend their own space will come down to help them after having finished using them? __________________________________________ Are you gonna bark all day, little doggy, or are you gonna bite??
Vex Seraphim	Posted - 2004.08.16 11:41:00 - [103] Edited by: Vex Seraphim on 16/08/2004 11:43:05 this whole thread kinda shows something that hasn't been fully revealed before if CFS take their own stations, FA will then war with CFS?.. so does this make FA pirates? no, wait, let me get this straight, if CA will take CFS stations from FA, and give them to CFS, and then FA will war with CFS and retake or try to retake the stations, will CA still carry the whole "CA are ebil pirates who ruin it for everybody" stigma? no, wait, oh well, yes, continue calling CA ebil pirates and stay afraid of FA attacking you if you even ATTEMPT to take YOUR stations back. ------------------- :: finite horizon :: killboard :: :: bio :: blog ::
Vex Seraphim	Posted - 2004.08.16 11:41:00 - [104] Edited by: Vex Seraphim on 16/08/2004 11:43:05 this whole thread kinda shows something that hasn't been fully revealed before if CFS take their own stations, FA will then war with CFS?.. so does this make FA pirates? no, wait, let me get this straight, if CA will take CFS stations from FA, and give them to CFS, and then FA will war with CFS and retake or try to retake the stations, will CA still carry the whole "CA are ebil pirates who ruin it for everybody" stigma? no, wait, oh well, yes, continue calling CA ebil pirates and stay afraid of FA attacking you if you even ATTEMPT to take YOUR stations back. ------------------- :: finite horizon :: killboard :: :: bio :: blog ::
Guderian	Posted - 2004.08.16 11:42:00 - [105] Originally by: Mr Blonde The CFS might have a week or two of "peace" depending on how the other alliances (Star Alliances, Delve Protectorate etc) react, and when CA go back to Curse space they will sit there, between the FA and Stain, and have no one to fall back on. Or do you actually think that the CA who cant even defend their own space will come down to help them after having finished using them? It has never been CA's intentions (in the form of Shinra) to engage in any kind of mutual protection pact with cfs, where CA would defend CFS pilots or CFS space. We offered a cease fire (nap if you want) so the residents in cfs space could try to re-claim their 'own land'. "Blessed is he, who walks through life in ignorance, 'cause he does not know the dangers that lies beyond."
Guderian	Posted - 2004.08.16 11:42:00 - [106] Originally by: Mr Blonde The CFS might have a week or two of "peace" depending on how the other alliances (Star Alliances, Delve Protectorate etc) react, and when CA go back to Curse space they will sit there, between the FA and Stain, and have no one to fall back on. Or do you actually think that the CA who cant even defend their own space will come down to help them after having finished using them? It has never been CA's intentions (in the form of Shinra) to engage in any kind of mutual protection pact with cfs, where CA would defend CFS pilots or CFS space. We offered a cease fire (nap if you want) so the residents in cfs space could try to re-claim their 'own land'. "Blessed is he, who walks through life in ignorance, 'cause he does not know the dangers that lies beyond."
HyperBaton	Posted - 2004.08.16 11:44:00 - [107] Edited by: HyperBaton on 16/08/2004 11:45:44 Quote: Raindrop CFS Council member Xentech Minerals department Says enough. Quote: It now seems obvious that this incident was carried out by CA alts. Yes, Shinra is actually a VOTF alt corp. I'm Xirtam, all your Veldspar are belong to me.
HyperBaton	Posted - 2004.08.16 11:44:00 - [108] Edited by: HyperBaton on 16/08/2004 11:45:44 Quote: Raindrop CFS Council member Xentech Minerals department Says enough. Quote: It now seems obvious that this incident was carried out by CA alts. Yes, Shinra is actually a VOTF alt corp. I'm Xirtam, all your Veldspar are belong to me.
Jouni Kalmar	Posted - 2004.08.16 11:46:00 - [109] Edited by: Jouni Kalmar on 16/08/2004 11:48:53 You guys should really listen to AvanCade. Why are CFS funding FA's armies anyway? 120m for an office is rediculous. If CFS thinks they can take and hold the stations and defend it better than FA and BIG then do it. So far i cant remember seeing any FA ships defending CFS like their arrements state they would, and i have seen 1 BIG pilot. We did have a tempory NAP with CFS/Star Alliance however, some Star Alliance members broke this nap and tried to shoot up some of our ships. They wanted war so we gave it to them, soon after CFS followed with similar actions. Stop protecting FA/BIG or trying to, while they do nothing at all to help CFS and get rich off you guys. Vex is right also, the stations in querious/delve are in CFS space, therefore should be managed by CFS NOT FA or BIG. If you would work together to defend and hold the stations you would make alot more isk for yourself to help with any efforts FA or BIG made to get the stations back... but don't do it now, wait until CA go :P
Jouni Kalmar	Posted - 2004.08.16 11:46:00 - [110] Edited by: Jouni Kalmar on 16/08/2004 11:48:53 You guys should really listen to AvanCade. Why are CFS funding FA's armies anyway? 120m for an office is rediculous. If CFS thinks they can take and hold the stations and defend it better than FA and BIG then do it. So far i cant remember seeing any FA ships defending CFS like their arrements state they would, and i have seen 1 BIG pilot. We did have a tempory NAP with CFS/Star Alliance however, some Star Alliance members broke this nap and tried to shoot up some of our ships. They wanted war so we gave it to them, soon after CFS followed with similar actions. Stop protecting FA/BIG or trying to, while they do nothing at all to help CFS and get rich off you guys. Vex is right also, the stations in querious/delve are in CFS space, therefore should be managed by CFS NOT FA or BIG. If you would work together to defend and hold the stations you would make alot more isk for yourself to help with any efforts FA or BIG made to get the stations back... but don't do it now, wait until CA go :P
Piccilo	Posted - 2004.08.16 11:56:00 - [111] hi :) im sure a lot of you kno of me, and im not gonna bother commenting cause u all kno how i feel about the situation :p i thought id just say hi and let u kno im watching O.o
Piccilo	Posted - 2004.08.16 11:56:00 - [112] hi :) im sure a lot of you kno of me, and im not gonna bother commenting cause u all kno how i feel about the situation :p i thought id just say hi and let u kno im watching O.o
Kate Libby	Posted - 2004.08.16 12:01:00 - [113] Originally by: Vapouriz3r Originally by: Kate Libby unfortunally would such nap not be accepted by many of the non-cfs corperations that are operating in cfs space, and those are in greater numbers then cfs is so it wouldn't help CA at all they will still get shot all over the place . LOL you make it out like CA get there asses handed to them all the time in CFS space.I'd say 95% of the engagements CA has with CFS and friends they CA win. CA don't need CFS help so I've got no idea what your waffling on about. i should say that any fleet led by ASCI has never lost more then we have killed. and because this is all about bragging u guys are getting outclassed by us and all the friends/allies that we fight together with. and i may send u my congratz for all the other lone ship gankings etc.. however i can't speak or even care about any other losses then losses made under ASCI command or participation. Just checking my sexy tools... ASCI - Neutralized Ships [-]i¦m too old for th
Kate Libby	Posted - 2004.08.16 12:01:00 - [114] Originally by: Vapouriz3r Originally by: Kate Libby unfortunally would such nap not be accepted by many of the non-cfs corperations that are operating in cfs space, and those are in greater numbers then cfs is so it wouldn't help CA at all they will still get shot all over the place . LOL you make it out like CA get there asses handed to them all the time in CFS space.I'd say 95% of the engagements CA has with CFS and friends they CA win. CA don't need CFS help so I've got no idea what your waffling on about. i should say that any fleet led by ASCI has never lost more then we have killed. and because this is all about bragging u guys are getting outclassed by us and all the friends/allies that we fight together with. and i may send u my congratz for all the other lone ship gankings etc.. however i can't speak or even care about any other losses then losses made under ASCI command or participation. Just checking my sexy tools... ASCI - Neutralized Ships [-]i¦m too old for th
MAXSuicide	Posted - 2004.08.16 12:04:00 - [115] hi picc, how r u? My vids and random stuff
MAXSuicide	Posted - 2004.08.16 12:04:00 - [116] hi picc, how r u? My vids and random stuff
HyperBaton	Posted - 2004.08.16 12:05:00 - [117] Originally by: Piccilo hi :) im sure a lot of you kno of me, and im not gonna bother commenting cause u all kno how i feel about the situation :p i thought id just say hi and let u kno im watching O.o Well folks, it's not hard to tell Piccilo is Zelota's alt
HyperBaton	Posted - 2004.08.16 12:05:00 - [118] Originally by: Piccilo hi :) im sure a lot of you kno of me, and im not gonna bother commenting cause u all kno how i feel about the situation :p i thought id just say hi and let u kno im watching O.o Well folks, it's not hard to tell Piccilo is Zelota's alt
nieo	Posted - 2004.08.16 12:48:00 - [119] As diplomatic as always TommyBoy. When will we see the first post in this thread declaring that CFS is dead?
nieo	Posted - 2004.08.16 12:48:00 - [120] As diplomatic as always TommyBoy. When will we see the first post in this thread declaring that CFS is dead?
Omniwar	Posted - 2004.08.16 13:11:00 - [121] Politics in Eve are for cowards. People with balls do what they want and dont negotiate in any form. Take the station because if CFS does not own the stations they are not an alliances, for they have no balls to do stand up for their alliance and its claims. Those who cant fight, talk, those who talk are politiciance, politiciance are always cowards, both in rl and in games. Take the stations from FA because I am sure as hell that FA will be severly crippled after CA¦s attacks, I mean FA was severly crippled after m0o attacked and we only had around 25 guys while CA has few hundred so FA will get a beating they wont forget in my opinion *Spawn of the Devil*
Omniwar	Posted - 2004.08.16 13:11:00 - [122] Politics in Eve are for cowards. People with balls do what they want and dont negotiate in any form. Take the station because if CFS does not own the stations they are not an alliances, for they have no balls to do stand up for their alliance and its claims. Those who cant fight, talk, those who talk are politiciance, politiciance are always cowards, both in rl and in games. Take the stations from FA because I am sure as hell that FA will be severly crippled after CA¦s attacks, I mean FA was severly crippled after m0o attacked and we only had around 25 guys while CA has few hundred so FA will get a beating they wont forget in my opinion *Spawn of the Devil*
Loka	Posted - 2004.08.16 13:16:00 - [123] Edited by: Loka on 16/08/2004 13:19:29 Originally by: Shredder Edited by: Shredder on 16/08/2004 10:47:17 Originally by: Sagainyte Edited by: Sagainyte on 16/08/2004 08:08:10 All I'm saying is that this thread looks a little "Renegade" to me. I certainly see no offical marking by the main poster. I also doubt any leader of CFS would post logs on official forums. A diplomat might as well put a gun to his head. It is perfectly understandable that the locals want to be rewarded for defending the station - I hear they owned a Shinra fleet down there 2-3 days ago. Was it 5 or 9 Shinra BS lost? The best thing to do is to trust the leaders to come to a mutually beneficial and fair deal. That is afterall the good thing about the region. It's not populated by rabid shot'em all dogs like CA :p WTF, shinra has lost a TOTAL of 3 battleships, each were indevidual losses due to mistakes and gankings by cfs and stain. Over the week that weve been here weve taken out SEVENTY, YES SEVENTY CFS//star alliance battleships, and if you dont believe that number go COUNT on the CA kill lists, theyre all there (thats not inccluding RUS kills). We have not lost a SINGLE battle againt you guys and have pretty much demolished any resistance weve come across. If youre under the illusion that either FA or CFS hold this space then you are very much mistaken, the only area held by CFS is TPAR, and that will change shortly. Please do not make up bull** comments like 'you destroyed a shinra fleet'. oh and before i finished this there goes 3 more battleships, all logged go read. We have made no threads about our operations in CFS space because we dont feel the need to brag about killing cfs noobs, but dont you come here talking rubbish about us being killed. #END RANT# if this is right then tell me this was a fake battle .... thx Dont watch this propaganda _____________________________________ Dead or Alive**
Loka	Posted - 2004.08.16 13:16:00 - [124] Edited by: Loka on 16/08/2004 13:19:29 Originally by: Shredder Edited by: Shredder on 16/08/2004 10:47:17 Originally by: Sagainyte Edited by: Sagainyte on 16/08/2004 08:08:10 All I'm saying is that this thread looks a little "Renegade" to me. I certainly see no offical marking by the main poster. I also doubt any leader of CFS would post logs on official forums. A diplomat might as well put a gun to his head. It is perfectly understandable that the locals want to be rewarded for defending the station - I hear they owned a Shinra fleet down there 2-3 days ago. Was it 5 or 9 Shinra BS lost? The best thing to do is to trust the leaders to come to a mutually beneficial and fair deal. That is afterall the good thing about the region. It's not populated by rabid shot'em all dogs like CA :p WTF, shinra has lost a TOTAL of 3 battleships, each were indevidual losses due to mistakes and gankings by cfs and stain. Over the week that weve been here weve taken out SEVENTY, YES SEVENTY CFS//star alliance battleships, and if you dont believe that number go COUNT on the CA kill lists, theyre all there (thats not inccluding RUS kills). We have not lost a SINGLE battle againt you guys and have pretty much demolished any resistance weve come across. If youre under the illusion that either FA or CFS hold this space then you are very much mistaken, the only area held by CFS is TPAR, and that will change shortly. Please do not make up bull** comments like 'you destroyed a shinra fleet'. oh and before i finished this there goes 3 more battleships, all logged go read. We have made no threads about our operations in CFS space because we dont feel the need to brag about killing cfs noobs, but dont you come here talking rubbish about us being killed. #END RANT# if this is right then tell me this was a fake battle .... thx Dont watch this propaganda _____________________________________ Dead or Alive**
Loka	Posted - 2004.08.16 13:22:00 - [125] Sorry have recognized this FRAPS was downloaded too often. I will try to find another host. Its not long and not that great, but still it voids the propaganda, that CA rule in CFS - Space all the time where they want. Like in every war you have win and losses. But CA dont have only wins, that i can tell you!!! _____________________________________ Dead or Alive
Loka	Posted - 2004.08.16 13:22:00 - [126] Sorry have recognized this FRAPS was downloaded too often. I will try to find another host. Its not long and not that great, but still it voids the propaganda, that CA rule in CFS - Space all the time where they want. Like in every war you have win and losses. But CA dont have only wins, that i can tell you!!! _____________________________________ Dead or Alive
Dopefish	Posted - 2004.08.16 13:24:00 - [127] FiSH UNiTE!!! Oh and CFS needs to grow a ball type saq thingy. Swedish chef does not like cake
Dopefish	Posted - 2004.08.16 13:24:00 - [128] FiSH UNiTE!!! Oh and CFS needs to grow a ball type saq thingy. Swedish chef does not like cake
Shredder	Posted - 2004.08.16 13:25:00 - [129] I cant access that dood :/ If its the fraps of the RUS vs Stain//CFS battle then you will clearly be able to see rus were outnumbered 4 to 1 but went in anyway cuz theyre phycotic madmen, and they still took out 4 battleships but lost 6 (if it is that fraps then you will see how brave rus are, and how well they did to take 4 out). That is the only battle that you could remotly say we have ever lost in the region, and that did not involve any Shinra pilots. If you have a different fraps to that then by all means please show it to me.
Shredder	Posted - 2004.08.16 13:25:00 - [130] I cant access that dood :/ If its the fraps of the RUS vs Stain//CFS battle then you will clearly be able to see rus were outnumbered 4 to 1 but went in anyway cuz theyre phycotic madmen, and they still took out 4 battleships but lost 6 (if it is that fraps then you will see how brave rus are, and how well they did to take 4 out). That is the only battle that you could remotly say we have ever lost in the region, and that did not involve any Shinra pilots. If you have a different fraps to that then by all means please show it to me.
Kelly O'Connor	Posted - 2004.08.16 13:26:00 - [131] Havent you noticed? Delve is literally proto FA, xanadu operate mostly out of their delve stations. Black Avatar joining FA, meant querious is now proto FA. Last region left without significant FA assets is period basis, and then, that's a cash cow for BIG.
Kelly O'Connor	Posted - 2004.08.16 13:26:00 - [132] Havent you noticed? Delve is literally proto FA, xanadu operate mostly out of their delve stations. Black Avatar joining FA, meant querious is now proto FA. Last region left without significant FA assets is period basis, and then, that's a cash cow for BIG.
Loka	Posted - 2004.08.16 13:43:00 - [133] Originally by: Shredder I cant access that dood :/ If its the fraps of the RUS vs Stain//CFS battle then you will clearly be able to see rus were outnumbered 4 to 1 but went in anyway cuz theyre phycotic madmen, and they still took out 4 battleships but lost 6 (if it is that fraps then you will see how brave rus are, and how well they did to take 4 out). That is the only battle that you could remotly say we have ever lost in the region, and that did not involve any Shinra pilots. If you have a different fraps to that then by all means please show it to me. I have reports of minor losses in Delve region. This is for both sides. Shinra mostly operates from 2:00 to 14:00 EVE time. Rest of the day the allied forces in DELVE are supirior and force the CA ships/pilots to log at safespots. Stationownerships change during the day regard this cycle. Shinra take Stations mostly before downtime and allied forces take them back after office time. Normaly 16:00-18:00 EVE time. Thats the true report of the situation. Iam a honorable pilot without any intension of telling any lies and flame around. My allied and friends trust me and my enemy respect me. Thats where my name stands for. _____________________________________ Dead or Alive
Loka	Posted - 2004.08.16 13:43:00 - [134] Originally by: Shredder I cant access that dood :/ If its the fraps of the RUS vs Stain//CFS battle then you will clearly be able to see rus were outnumbered 4 to 1 but went in anyway cuz theyre phycotic madmen, and they still took out 4 battleships but lost 6 (if it is that fraps then you will see how brave rus are, and how well they did to take 4 out). That is the only battle that you could remotly say we have ever lost in the region, and that did not involve any Shinra pilots. If you have a different fraps to that then by all means please show it to me. I have reports of minor losses in Delve region. This is for both sides. Shinra mostly operates from 2:00 to 14:00 EVE time. Rest of the day the allied forces in DELVE are supirior and force the CA ships/pilots to log at safespots. Stationownerships change during the day regard this cycle. Shinra take Stations mostly before downtime and allied forces take them back after office time. Normaly 16:00-18:00 EVE time. Thats the true report of the situation. Iam a honorable pilot without any intension of telling any lies and flame around. My allied and friends trust me and my enemy respect me. Thats where my name stands for. _____________________________________ Dead or Alive
Shredder	Posted - 2004.08.16 13:48:00 - [135] Edited by: Shredder on 16/08/2004 13:58:50 Edited by: Shredder on 16/08/2004 13:51:25 Edited by: Shredder on 16/08/2004 13:50:52 Originally by: Loka Originally by: Shredder I cant access that dood :/ If its the fraps of the RUS vs Stain//CFS battle then you will clearly be able to see rus were outnumbered 4 to 1 but went in anyway cuz theyre phycotic madmen, and they still took out 4 battleships but lost 6 (if it is that fraps then you will see how brave rus are, and how well they did to take 4 out). That is the only battle that you could remotly say we have ever lost in the region, and that did not involve any Shinra pilots. If you have a different fraps to that then by all means please show it to me. I have reports of minor losses in Delve region. This is for both sides. Shinra mostly operates from 2:00 to 14:00 EVE time. Rest of the day the allied forces in DELVE are supirior and force the CA ships/pilots to log at safespots. Stationownerships change during the day regard this cycle. Shinra take Stations mostly before downtime and allied forces take them back after office time. Normaly 16:00-18:00 EVE time. Thats the true report of the situation. Iam a honorable pilot without any intension of telling any lies and flame around. My allied and friends trust me and my enemy respect me. Thats where my name stands for. I agree that in the evenining roughly 20.00 (24.00 last night), star alliance has been retaking the station, this is because shinra is 90% european based so we dont have the numbers online in that timezone, however regarding minor losses in that area - weve lost 1 battleship (Phony in a raven) and have taken out roughly 50 in that area over 6 days, ive got the kill list for that area, im going to endeavour to type it out for you here. That is my honest pilot responce. (copying out the list now for you). Oh and if youve got any other reports of battleships being downed in that area please supply the kill mail. Ok here it is, copied directly from the CA kill list search engine.
Shredder	Posted - 2004.08.16 13:48:00 - [136] Edited by: Shredder on 16/08/2004 13:58:50 Edited by: Shredder on 16/08/2004 13:51:25 Edited by: Shredder on 16/08/2004 13:50:52 Originally by: Loka Originally by: Shredder I cant access that dood :/ If its the fraps of the RUS vs Stain//CFS battle then you will clearly be able to see rus were outnumbered 4 to 1 but went in anyway cuz theyre phycotic madmen, and they still took out 4 battleships but lost 6 (if it is that fraps then you will see how brave rus are, and how well they did to take 4 out). That is the only battle that you could remotly say we have ever lost in the region, and that did not involve any Shinra pilots. If you have a different fraps to that then by all means please show it to me. I have reports of minor losses in Delve region. This is for both sides. Shinra mostly operates from 2:00 to 14:00 EVE time. Rest of the day the allied forces in DELVE are supirior and force the CA ships/pilots to log at safespots. Stationownerships change during the day regard this cycle. Shinra take Stations mostly before downtime and allied forces take them back after office time. Normaly 16:00-18:00 EVE time. Thats the true report of the situation. Iam a honorable pilot without any intension of telling any lies and flame around. My allied and friends trust me and my enemy respect me. Thats where my name stands for. I agree that in the evenining roughly 20.00 (24.00 last night), star alliance has been retaking the station, this is because shinra is 90% european based so we dont have the numbers online in that timezone, however regarding minor losses in that area - weve lost 1 battleship (Phony in a raven) and have taken out roughly 50 in that area over 6 days, ive got the kill list for that area, im going to endeavour to type it out for you here. That is my honest pilot responce. (copying out the list now for you). Oh and if youve got any other reports of battleships being downed in that area please supply the kill mail. Ok here it is, copied directly from the CA kill list search engine.
Loka	Posted - 2004.08.16 13:52:00 - [137] Originally by: Shredder I cant access that dood :/ If its the fraps of the RUS vs Stain//CFS battle then you will clearly be able to see rus were outnumbered 4 to 1 but went in anyway cuz theyre phycotic madmen, and they still took out 4 battleships but lost 6 (if it is that fraps then you will see how brave rus are, and how well they did to take 4 out). That is the only battle that you could remotly say we have ever lost in the region, and that did not involve any Shinra pilots. If you have a different fraps to that then by all means please show it to me. Yes it was the fight of SA+CFS(+ADGA corp) near TPAR in Period Bases. A good fight btw. CA and we have similiar forces. Yes tbh i think we outnumbered them, but not even 2:1 it was much less. The CA in local congratulated us, that we havent waited in TPAR, but moved north to face them. Yes we jumped into them, but they warped instantly to the other Gate, where we faced them. We won this time, next time things can change. But CA said us in local, they gratulate us for fighting almost even odds and having the balls to jump into them instad of lagging them to hell on other side! Sometimes it wont be so bad to honor your enemy instad of declining anything. This just for the protocol. I try to host the fraps when iam at home at different server. _____________________________________ Dead or Alive
Loka	Posted - 2004.08.16 13:52:00 - [138] Originally by: Shredder I cant access that dood :/ If its the fraps of the RUS vs Stain//CFS battle then you will clearly be able to see rus were outnumbered 4 to 1 but went in anyway cuz theyre phycotic madmen, and they still took out 4 battleships but lost 6 (if it is that fraps then you will see how brave rus are, and how well they did to take 4 out). That is the only battle that you could remotly say we have ever lost in the region, and that did not involve any Shinra pilots. If you have a different fraps to that then by all means please show it to me. Yes it was the fight of SA+CFS(+ADGA corp) near TPAR in Period Bases. A good fight btw. CA and we have similiar forces. Yes tbh i think we outnumbered them, but not even 2:1 it was much less. The CA in local congratulated us, that we havent waited in TPAR, but moved north to face them. Yes we jumped into them, but they warped instantly to the other Gate, where we faced them. We won this time, next time things can change. But CA said us in local, they gratulate us for fighting almost even odds and having the balls to jump into them instad of lagging them to hell on other side! Sometimes it wont be so bad to honor your enemy instad of declining anything. This just for the protocol. I try to host the fraps when iam at home at different server. _____________________________________ Dead or Alive
Viajero Jack	Posted - 2004.08.16 13:54:00 - [139] Originally by: Vapouriz3r No not all CA are pirates. lol... nah only the 95% of CA are full pirates corps, or have members pirates pirating with the tag of the corp
Viajero Jack	Posted - 2004.08.16 13:54:00 - [140] Originally by: Vapouriz3r No not all CA are pirates. lol... nah only the 95% of CA are full pirates corps, or have members pirates pirating with the tag of the corp
CKOZUK	Posted - 2004.08.16 14:02:00 - [141] Originally by: Loka I have reports of minor losses in Delve region. This is for both sides. Linkage Shinra kill in delve past week These may not be all the kills some might not have been inoutted but I wouldn't call those losses minor. The above text is my own views which may not represent my corps views.
CKOZUK	Posted - 2004.08.16 14:02:00 - [142] Originally by: Loka I have reports of minor losses in Delve region. This is for both sides. Linkage Shinra kill in delve past week These may not be all the kills some might not have been inoutted but I wouldn't call those losses minor. The above text is my own views which may not represent my corps views.
Shredder	Posted - 2004.08.16 14:02:00 - [143] Originally by: Loka Originally by: Shredder I cant access that dood :/ If its the fraps of the RUS vs Stain//CFS battle then you will clearly be able to see rus were outnumbered 4 to 1 but went in anyway cuz theyre phycotic madmen, and they still took out 4 battleships but lost 6 (if it is that fraps then you will see how brave rus are, and how well they did to take 4 out). That is the only battle that you could remotly say we have ever lost in the region, and that did not involve any Shinra pilots. If you have a different fraps to that then by all means please show it to me. Yes it was the fight of SA+CFS(+ADGA corp) near TPAR in Period Bases. A good fight btw. CA and we have similiar forces. Yes tbh i think we outnumbered them, but not even 2:1 it was much less. The CA in local congratulated us, that we havent waited in TPAR, but moved north to face them. Yes we jumped into them, but they warped instantly to the other Gate, where we faced them. We won this time, next time things can change. But CA said us in local, they gratulate us for fighting almost even odds and having the balls to jump into them instad of lagging them to hell on other side! Sometimes it wont be so bad to honor your enemy instad of declining anything. This just for the protocol. I try to host the fraps when iam at home at different server. Well thats not what ive heard, but i dont really know for sure, i just know what i saw in the fraps. Anyhow all our previous statments remain true since we were always talking about the shinra fleet. The RUS fleet is new to this area and angagements in this operation, but from what i hear theyre doing well against BA. Gratz for doing well against them if thats what happened, but to be quite honest i suspect it was mostly stain that did the damage. (i still think rus were massivly outnumbered, look at the fraps shrug)
Shredder	Posted - 2004.08.16 14:02:00 - [144] Originally by: Loka Originally by: Shredder I cant access that dood :/ If its the fraps of the RUS vs Stain//CFS battle then you will clearly be able to see rus were outnumbered 4 to 1 but went in anyway cuz theyre phycotic madmen, and they still took out 4 battleships but lost 6 (if it is that fraps then you will see how brave rus are, and how well they did to take 4 out). That is the only battle that you could remotly say we have ever lost in the region, and that did not involve any Shinra pilots. If you have a different fraps to that then by all means please show it to me. Yes it was the fight of SA+CFS(+ADGA corp) near TPAR in Period Bases. A good fight btw. CA and we have similiar forces. Yes tbh i think we outnumbered them, but not even 2:1 it was much less. The CA in local congratulated us, that we havent waited in TPAR, but moved north to face them. Yes we jumped into them, but they warped instantly to the other Gate, where we faced them. We won this time, next time things can change. But CA said us in local, they gratulate us for fighting almost even odds and having the balls to jump into them instad of lagging them to hell on other side! Sometimes it wont be so bad to honor your enemy instad of declining anything. This just for the protocol. I try to host the fraps when iam at home at different server. Well thats not what ive heard, but i dont really know for sure, i just know what i saw in the fraps. Anyhow all our previous statments remain true since we were always talking about the shinra fleet. The RUS fleet is new to this area and angagements in this operation, but from what i hear theyre doing well against BA. Gratz for doing well against them if thats what happened, but to be quite honest i suspect it was mostly stain that did the damage. (i still think rus were massivly outnumbered, look at the fraps shrug)
CKOZUK	Posted - 2004.08.16 14:06:00 - [145] Originally by: Viajero Jack Originally by: Vapouriz3r No not all CA are pirates. lol... nah only the 95% of CA are full pirates corps, or have members pirates pirating with the tag of the corp LOL post with your main. If thats true then that 95% of CA are pirates then what about these claims that CA is full of miners? Now stop trolling and post facts tell me what corps are pirate corps and why otherwise your post is just trash. The above text is my own views which may not represent my corps views.
CKOZUK	Posted - 2004.08.16 14:06:00 - [146] Originally by: Viajero Jack Originally by: Vapouriz3r No not all CA are pirates. lol... nah only the 95% of CA are full pirates corps, or have members pirates pirating with the tag of the corp LOL post with your main. If thats true then that 95% of CA are pirates then what about these claims that CA is full of miners? Now stop trolling and post facts tell me what corps are pirate corps and why otherwise your post is just trash. The above text is my own views which may not represent my corps views.
Shredder	Posted - 2004.08.16 14:06:00 - [147] Edited by: Shredder on 16/08/2004 14:08:29 Originally by: CKOZUK Originally by: Loka I have reports of minor losses in Delve region. This is for both sides. Linkage Shinra kill in delve past week These may not be all the kills some might not have been inoutted but I wouldn't call those losses minor. Those are only the losses for the Delve region in the Quierious region there is a furthur 50, and in the Period Basis region a furthur 30. Please dont make me copy and paste those kills too
Shredder	Posted - 2004.08.16 14:06:00 - [148] Edited by: Shredder on 16/08/2004 14:08:29 Originally by: CKOZUK Originally by: Loka I have reports of minor losses in Delve region. This is for both sides. Linkage Shinra kill in delve past week These may not be all the kills some might not have been inoutted but I wouldn't call those losses minor. Those are only the losses for the Delve region in the Quierious region there is a furthur 50, and in the Period Basis region a furthur 30. Please dont make me copy and paste those kills too
Ukiah	Posted - 2004.08.16 14:31:00 - [149] Originally by: Omniwar Politics in Eve are for cowards. People with balls do what they want and dont negotiate in any form. Take the station because if CFS does not own the stations they are not an alliances, for they have no balls to do stand up for their alliance and its claims. Those who cant fight, talk, those who talk are politiciance, politiciance are always cowards, both in rl and in games. Take the stations from FA because I am sure as hell that FA will be severly crippled after CA¦s attacks, I mean FA was severly crippled after m0o attacked and we only had around 25 guys while CA has few hundred so FA will get a beating they wont forget in my opinion With every day that this assinine saga continues, I find myself believing more and more that the 'pirates' in Eve have the right attitude: No politics, no BS, just blowing stuff up. However, I don't think I'd make a good pirate.
Ukiah	Posted - 2004.08.16 14:31:00 - [150] Originally by: Omniwar Politics in Eve are for cowards. People with balls do what they want and dont negotiate in any form. Take the station because if CFS does not own the stations they are not an alliances, for they have no balls to do stand up for their alliance and its claims. Those who cant fight, talk, those who talk are politiciance, politiciance are always cowards, both in rl and in games. Take the stations from FA because I am sure as hell that FA will be severly crippled after CA¦s attacks, I mean FA was severly crippled after m0o attacked and we only had around 25 guys while CA has few hundred so FA will get a beating they wont forget in my opinion With every day that this assinine saga continues, I find myself believing more and more that the 'pirates' in Eve have the right attitude: No politics, no BS, just blowing stuff up. However, I don't think I'd make a good pirate.
Reverend Necrona	Posted - 2004.08.16 14:35:00 - [151] Where's the link to the RUS fraps fleet? RUS are nut cases i can testify to this. Truly a great pvp corp. Reverend Necrona
Reverend Necrona	Posted - 2004.08.16 14:35:00 - [152] Where's the link to the RUS fraps fleet? RUS are nut cases i can testify to this. Truly a great pvp corp. Reverend Necrona
GUIYNAN	Posted - 2004.08.16 14:56:00 - [153] I would like to add to all of the posts - that as a High ranking member of Macrosoft - I do not know why oth players that are named in the chat logs - and who are existing Macrosoft Members initiated this agression. I am positive - that this agression has been started without the knowledge of our CEO Demian Sky - and the matter will be investigated at the highest level. I would like toi apologise - for the distress caused to the other players involved at the time - and Hope - that Macrosoft and its good name - will always be upheld and respected in the Period Basis Region. Guiynan
GUIYNAN	Posted - 2004.08.16 14:56:00 - [154] I would like to add to all of the posts - that as a High ranking member of Macrosoft - I do not know why oth players that are named in the chat logs - and who are existing Macrosoft Members initiated this agression. I am positive - that this agression has been started without the knowledge of our CEO Demian Sky - and the matter will be investigated at the highest level. I would like toi apologise - for the distress caused to the other players involved at the time - and Hope - that Macrosoft and its good name - will always be upheld and respected in the Period Basis Region. Guiynan
MAXSuicide	Posted - 2004.08.16 14:59:00 - [155] ahahahahaha told u macrosoft boys that tommy would be a hand full...didnt listen though did we? My vids and random stuff
MAXSuicide	Posted - 2004.08.16 14:59:00 - [156] ahahahahaha told u macrosoft boys that tommy would be a hand full...didnt listen though did we? My vids and random stuff
TornSoul	Posted - 2004.08.16 15:19:00 - [157] Upon request, but against my better judgement: Originally by: Shredder I'd just like to add a few points which Shinra has learnt whilst being in CFS space regarding FA's station control. Firstly most stations in the area are run with a 5% refine tax. Secondly most stations run a docking fee. Thirdly ive been told by a couple of corporations that they paid 120million to BIG to rent offices in stations (this may apply to all corporations that rent offices there i dont know). Tpar docking fee: 0 (Zero) Tpar refining fee : 2.5% they paid 120million to BIG to rent offices in stations As the station UI is so utterly broken it's almost a crime in itself, stationowners have zero control of the offices (3 CA corps still have offices in Tpar Go figure...). It's simply a matter of 'first come, first served'. So how we could charge anything for an office is a bit of a mystery... As a matter of fact : The first two months we owned the station - We didnt even have an office ourself - But had to keep using SCC's in space. As we had done all the while we fought m0o/Atuk/Techell for the station. (just to illustrate how bugged the station thing is.) In the end we managed to trade an office from another corp Furthermore - Many local corps have had their standing set to 5.0 and upto 9.0 (max for non FA corps) based on their willingness and effectivness in keeping the area safe and peacefull. A standing of 9.0 gives an effective refining fee of 0.25% (90% discount) I can not comment on other station fees. I have no other comments to this thread. BIG Lottery [u
TornSoul	Posted - 2004.08.16 15:19:00 - [158] Upon request, but against my better judgement: Originally by: Shredder I'd just like to add a few points which Shinra has learnt whilst being in CFS space regarding FA's station control. Firstly most stations in the area are run with a 5% refine tax. Secondly most stations run a docking fee. Thirdly ive been told by a couple of corporations that they paid 120million to BIG to rent offices in stations (this may apply to all corporations that rent offices there i dont know). Tpar docking fee: 0 (Zero) Tpar refining fee : 2.5% they paid 120million to BIG to rent offices in stations As the station UI is so utterly broken it's almost a crime in itself, stationowners have zero control of the offices (3 CA corps still have offices in Tpar Go figure...). It's simply a matter of 'first come, first served'. So how we could charge anything for an office is a bit of a mystery... As a matter of fact : The first two months we owned the station - We didnt even have an office ourself - But had to keep using SCC's in space. As we had done all the while we fought m0o/Atuk/Techell for the station. (just to illustrate how bugged the station thing is.) In the end we managed to trade an office from another corp Furthermore - Many local corps have had their standing set to 5.0 and upto 9.0 (max for non FA corps) based on their willingness and effectivness in keeping the area safe and peacefull. A standing of 9.0 gives an effective refining fee of 0.25% (90% discount) I can not comment on other station fees. I have no other comments to this thread. BIG Lottery [u
Lallante	Posted - 2004.08.16 15:27:00 - [159] Im still waiting for a reply from those harping on about "CA losses" to hypers link... (http://www.yoxio.com/img/82564.jpg) Cold hard facts are fun :) Lall - THE Vocal Minority - ShinRa
Lallante	Posted - 2004.08.16 15:27:00 - [160] Im still waiting for a reply from those harping on about "CA losses" to hypers link... (http://www.yoxio.com/img/82564.jpg) Cold hard facts are fun :) Lall - THE Vocal Minority - ShinRa
Estios	Posted - 2004.08.16 15:39:00 - [161] Edited by: Estios on 16/08/2004 15:41:29 MasterOB1 was busy at 4:58pm Nice list despite the itchy post finger though, good work ! So HMV consider Andy Williams and Dean Martin to be "easy listening" do they? Tell that to my mate Dave, he's been deaf for 20 years.
Estios	Posted - 2004.08.16 15:39:00 - [162] Edited by: Estios on 16/08/2004 15:41:29 MasterOB1 was busy at 4:58pm Nice list despite the itchy post finger though, good work ! So HMV consider Andy Williams and Dean Martin to be "easy listening" do they? Tell that to my mate Dave, he's been deaf for 20 years.
Shredder	Posted - 2004.08.16 15:43:00 - [163] Edited by: Shredder on 16/08/2004 15:46:03 Still no word on the losses we're supposed to have taken in delve
Shredder	Posted - 2004.08.16 15:43:00 - [164] Edited by: Shredder on 16/08/2004 15:46:03 Still no word on the losses we're supposed to have taken in delve
Thesiuss	Posted - 2004.08.16 15:45:00 - [165] Is this the Shredder I knew back in the day? Oberon Inc Website--------------Oberon Sales Page
Thesiuss	Posted - 2004.08.16 15:45:00 - [166] Is this the Shredder I knew back in the day? Oberon Inc Website--------------Oberon Sales Page
Shredder	Posted - 2004.08.16 15:47:00 - [167] Sure is dood, always nice to see old corps doing well, send me a chat in-game or on irc anytime
Shredder	Posted - 2004.08.16 15:47:00 - [168] Sure is dood, always nice to see old corps doing well, send me a chat in-game or on irc anytime
Thesalaus	Posted - 2004.08.16 16:36:00 - [169] Thesiuss is in retirement, but I'll continue communications with you I'm his son. (alt) Old man only comes out to wave to let everyone know he's still alive....somewhat. :) It's good indeed to see you I'll be sure to look you up in-game asap. :) Oberon Inc Website Oberon Sales Page Pain
Thesalaus	Posted - 2004.08.16 16:36:00 - [170] Thesiuss is in retirement, but I'll continue communications with you I'm his son. (alt) Old man only comes out to wave to let everyone know he's still alive....somewhat. :) It's good indeed to see you I'll be sure to look you up in-game asap. :) Oberon Inc Website Oberon Sales Page Pain
Tommy Boy	Posted - 2004.08.16 17:02:00 - [171] For clarification: Tommy Boy & Mike7 acted alone in this matter. Got their attention and Eve's, proving that FA are being ebil pirates! So yes mister "who are you" "who is the council" good have fun you guys go play with dolls and drink some tea. As "vice-god Raindrop" said, this was of course not "sanctioned" because CFS is DEAD, as an alliance it is. It's forces are no stronger than that of a corperation. Even kicked out of CFS chat, yay! _____________________ Times have to change ---------------------
Tommy Boy	Posted - 2004.08.16 17:02:00 - [172] For clarification: Tommy Boy & Mike7 acted alone in this matter. Got their attention and Eve's, proving that FA are being ebil pirates! So yes mister "who are you" "who is the council" good have fun you guys go play with dolls and drink some tea. As "vice-god Raindrop" said, this was of course not "sanctioned" because CFS is DEAD, as an alliance it is. It's forces are no stronger than that of a corperation. Even kicked out of CFS chat, yay! _____________________ Times have to change ---------------------
Katya Detia	Posted - 2004.08.16 17:40:00 - [173] Tommy boy has been in his corp 14 days Macrosoft is a "Trial Member" of CFS This is 2 facts above should be taken into consideration. He has no right to be getting into these politics... he is just stiring things up. He is attempting to break the area up, when its already in war... He needs removing. He disbanded his corp with no regard to what they wanted.. Now that FA is under attack, he starts kicking all this **** off. He started on about the Tpar station, after a force mainly made of DSMA forces took it back. DSMA are the main force holding period basis. CFS and STAIN helps, but we are the main ones there. These station talks can wait until we have pushed our common enemy back.. This is not needed now.. --------------------------- CEO: Black Sea Industries
Katya Detia	Posted - 2004.08.16 17:40:00 - [174] Tommy boy has been in his corp 14 days Macrosoft is a "Trial Member" of CFS This is 2 facts above should be taken into consideration. He has no right to be getting into these politics... he is just stiring things up. He is attempting to break the area up, when its already in war... He needs removing. He disbanded his corp with no regard to what they wanted.. Now that FA is under attack, he starts kicking all this **** off. He started on about the Tpar station, after a force mainly made of DSMA forces took it back. DSMA are the main force holding period basis. CFS and STAIN helps, but we are the main ones there. These station talks can wait until we have pushed our common enemy back.. This is not needed now.. --------------------------- CEO: Black Sea Industries
Cruz	Posted - 2004.08.16 17:51:00 - [175] Originally by: Katya Detia Tommy boy has been in his corp 14 days Macrosoft is a "Trial Member" of CFS This is 2 facts above should be taken into consideration. Maybe you should also realize that tommy OLD CORP 58th Maricecor were ALSO CFS MEMBERS for at least 4 months... so maybe THAT should be taken into consideration also? NOOO NO WAY!! Tommy Boy is EBIL!! Liberator of CFS!! EVIL PERSON!!! .................
Cruz	Posted - 2004.08.16 17:51:00 - [176] Originally by: Katya Detia Tommy boy has been in his corp 14 days Macrosoft is a "Trial Member" of CFS This is 2 facts above should be taken into consideration. Maybe you should also realize that tommy OLD CORP 58th Maricecor were ALSO CFS MEMBERS for at least 4 months... so maybe THAT should be taken into consideration also? NOOO NO WAY!! Tommy Boy is EBIL!! Liberator of CFS!! EVIL PERSON!!! .................
Katya Detia	Posted - 2004.08.16 17:56:00 - [177] Im sure 58th was was in EF.. --------------------------- CEO: Black Sea Industries
Katya Detia	Posted - 2004.08.16 17:56:00 - [178] Im sure 58th was was in EF.. --------------------------- CEO: Black Sea Industries
Tommy Boy	Posted - 2004.08.16 18:10:00 - [179] Yep, Tommy Boy is ebil. Traitor, Scum bag, Liar, Cheat... God im starting to sound like CA... maybe i should join them and kill you off so you can mine some more _____________________ Times have to change ---------------------
Tommy Boy	Posted - 2004.08.16 18:10:00 - [180] Yep, Tommy Boy is ebil. Traitor, Scum bag, Liar, Cheat... God im starting to sound like CA... maybe i should join them and kill you off so you can mine some more _____________________ Times have to change ---------------------
MAXSuicide	Posted - 2004.08.16 18:15:00 - [181] Edited by: MAXSuicide on 16/08/2004 18:18:00 Cruz, 58TH were part of Emp fed. they were trialists of CFS for like 2 days i think before tommy abandoned his members and took everything with him My vids and random stuff
MAXSuicide	Posted - 2004.08.16 18:15:00 - [182] Edited by: MAXSuicide on 16/08/2004 18:18:00 Cruz, 58TH were part of Emp fed. they were trialists of CFS for like 2 days i think before tommy abandoned his members and took everything with him My vids and random stuff
benwallace	Posted - 2004.08.16 18:33:00 - [183] isn't tommy boy cruz and lakefish the same people and CA your kill list is wrogn you killed me 4 times you got me on 3 --------------------------
benwallace	Posted - 2004.08.16 18:33:00 - [184] isn't tommy boy cruz and lakefish the same people and CA your kill list is wrogn you killed me 4 times you got me on 3 --------------------------
CKOZUK	Posted - 2004.08.16 18:46:00 - [185] Originally by: benwallace isn't tommy boy cruz and lakefish the same people and CA your kill list is wrogn you killed me 4 times you got me on 3 Linkage Which one is wrong Ben and why? As all the kill names are taken straight from the kill mails its hard to get th ekill wrong unless the kill mail is wrong. Also seeing that ships you died in are frigs theres no reason to put a fake frigate kill up now is there. The above text is my own views which may not represent my corps views.
CKOZUK	Posted - 2004.08.16 18:46:00 - [186] Originally by: benwallace isn't tommy boy cruz and lakefish the same people and CA your kill list is wrogn you killed me 4 times you got me on 3 Linkage Which one is wrong Ben and why? As all the kill names are taken straight from the kill mails its hard to get th ekill wrong unless the kill mail is wrong. Also seeing that ships you died in are frigs theres no reason to put a fake frigate kill up now is there. The above text is my own views which may not represent my corps views.
Tommy Boy	Posted - 2004.08.16 19:37:00 - [187] LOL, no Tommy Boy is tommy boy... ask people who know us, Cruz was on ventrilo with me at the same time... so maybe i can change my voice and talk for 2 people. Damn talented if i can :) Lake Fish is russian for god's sake, i wouldn't know the first Russian word... And Max you go from corp to corp worse than i do so STFU... Several members of the 58th left and i finished it off. _____________________ Times have to change ---------------------
Tommy Boy	Posted - 2004.08.16 19:37:00 - [188] LOL, no Tommy Boy is tommy boy... ask people who know us, Cruz was on ventrilo with me at the same time... so maybe i can change my voice and talk for 2 people. Damn talented if i can :) Lake Fish is russian for god's sake, i wouldn't know the first Russian word... And Max you go from corp to corp worse than i do so STFU... Several members of the 58th left and i finished it off. _____________________ Times have to change ---------------------
benwallace	Posted - 2004.08.16 20:01:00 - [189] thanks clearing that up chozuk and tommy I don't trust you we have some logs of you amitting that ther are you alts --------------------------
benwallace	Posted - 2004.08.16 20:01:00 - [190] thanks clearing that up chozuk and tommy I don't trust you we have some logs of you amitting that ther are you alts --------------------------
Cruz	Posted - 2004.08.16 20:23:00 - [191] Originally by: benwallace thanks clearing that up chozuk and tommy I don't trust you we have some logs of you amitting that ther are you alts talk to us on teamspeak/ventrilo then. .................
Cruz	Posted - 2004.08.16 20:23:00 - [192] Originally by: benwallace thanks clearing that up chozuk and tommy I don't trust you we have some logs of you amitting that ther are you alts talk to us on teamspeak/ventrilo then. .................
LiQuiDCooL	Posted - 2004.08.16 20:40:00 - [193] TO ALL!!! Shredder ain't lying and neither are the numbers. Shrinra are an elite force of CA Poilts All With RUS and Not to mention The god know how many corps in CA thats have the best piolts in the galaxly.. CFS fleet got exited when they ambushed a few rus and other piolts out numbering them 3 to 1 and they took a few losses.. RUS are commendable and wont run. I watched Shrina Live Rip apart DSMA liek butter with no losses. hmm funny aint it..? But any how I have fought these piolts and watched them fight on the battle field and I must command there skills and sometimes I cant beleive we actually we mean the ex CFSDF we able to take on these piolts.. So to make it clear.. Note to CFS officals Clean or Clean out because.. the party only began to start as I would say the Same thing a above what RUS just said.. P.S. I only lost 2 ships Fighting A2 Sector in the Ex CFSDF 1 Thoarx 1 Rifter.. The Best Regards to all, LiQuiDCooL CEO TGR The Gunslingers Armada Originally by: Shredder Edited by: Shredder on 16/08/2004 10:47:17 Originally by: Sagainyte Edited by: Sagainyte on 16/08/2004 08:08:10 All I'm saying is that this thread looks a little "Renegade" to me. I certainly see no offical marking by the main poster. I also doubt any leader of CFS would post logs on official forums. A diplomat might as well put a gun to his head. It is perfectly understandable that the locals want to be rewarded for defending the station - I hear they owned a Shinra fleet down there 2-3 days ago. Was it 5 or 9 Shinra BS lost? The best thing to do is to trust the leaders to come to a mutually beneficial and fair deal. That is afterall the good thing about the region. It's not populated by rabid shot'em all dogs like CA :p WTF, shinra has lost a TOTAL of 3 battleships, each were indevidual losses due to mistakes and gankings by cfs and stain. Over the week that weve been here weve taken out SEVENTY, YES SEVENTY CFS//star alliance battleships, and if you dont believe that number go COUNT on the CA kill lists, theyre all there (thats not inccluding RUS kills). We have not lost a SINGLE battle againt you guys and have pretty much demolished any resistance weve come across. If youre under the illusion that either FA or CFS hold this space then you are very much mistaken, the only area held by CFS is TPAR, and that will change shortly. Please do not make up bull**** comments like 'you destroyed a shinra fleet'. oh and before i finished this there goes 3 more battleships, all logged go read. We have made no threads about our operations in CFS space because we dont feel the need to brag about killing cfs noobs, but dont you come here talking rubbish about us being killed. #END RANT# LiQuiDCooL Shinra ~ The Good Guys
LiQuiDCooL	Posted - 2004.08.16 20:40:00 - [194] TO ALL!!! Shredder ain't lying and neither are the numbers. Shrinra are an elite force of CA Poilts All With RUS and Not to mention The god know how many corps in CA thats have the best piolts in the galaxly.. CFS fleet got exited when they ambushed a few rus and other piolts out numbering them 3 to 1 and they took a few losses.. RUS are commendable and wont run. I watched Shrina Live Rip apart DSMA liek butter with no losses. hmm funny aint it..? But any how I have fought these piolts and watched them fight on the battle field and I must command there skills and sometimes I cant beleive we actually we mean the ex CFSDF we able to take on these piolts.. So to make it clear.. Note to CFS officals Clean or Clean out because.. the party only began to start as I would say the Same thing a above what RUS just said.. P.S. I only lost 2 ships Fighting A2 Sector in the Ex CFSDF 1 Thoarx 1 Rifter.. The Best Regards to all, LiQuiDCooL CEO TGR The Gunslingers Armada Originally by: Shredder Edited by: Shredder on 16/08/2004 10:47:17 Originally by: Sagainyte Edited by: Sagainyte on 16/08/2004 08:08:10 All I'm saying is that this thread looks a little "Renegade" to me. I certainly see no offical marking by the main poster. I also doubt any leader of CFS would post logs on official forums. A diplomat might as well put a gun to his head. It is perfectly understandable that the locals want to be rewarded for defending the station - I hear they owned a Shinra fleet down there 2-3 days ago. Was it 5 or 9 Shinra BS lost? The best thing to do is to trust the leaders to come to a mutually beneficial and fair deal. That is afterall the good thing about the region. It's not populated by rabid shot'em all dogs like CA :p WTF, shinra has lost a TOTAL of 3 battleships, each were indevidual losses due to mistakes and gankings by cfs and stain. Over the week that weve been here weve taken out SEVENTY, YES SEVENTY CFS//star alliance battleships, and if you dont believe that number go COUNT on the CA kill lists, theyre all there (thats not inccluding RUS kills). We have not lost a SINGLE battle againt you guys and have pretty much demolished any resistance weve come across. If youre under the illusion that either FA or CFS hold this space then you are very much mistaken, the only area held by CFS is TPAR, and that will change shortly. Please do not make up bull**** comments like 'you destroyed a shinra fleet'. oh and before i finished this there goes 3 more battleships, all logged go read. We have made no threads about our operations in CFS space because we dont feel the need to brag about killing cfs noobs, but dont you come here talking rubbish about us being killed. #END RANT# LiQuiDCooL Shinra ~ The Good Guys
DeMundus	Posted - 2004.08.16 20:49:00 - [195] Does DSMA still have ant active pilots? Maybe BIG send u some money?
DeMundus	Posted - 2004.08.16 20:49:00 - [196] Does DSMA still have ant active pilots? Maybe BIG send u some money?
Xanadex	Posted - 2004.08.16 20:50:00 - [197] BIG and Xanadu need to go BYE BYE. No more CCP help, No more ripping peeps off, NO MORE taking advantage of others in EVE. That chat log makes it REALLY clear that BIG has no respect for the CFS forces. (DUH) Curse has their space, we don't go into others and LET YOU live there and defend while we make money from the stations. SICK SICK SICK. KILL THEM!!!!
Xanadex	Posted - 2004.08.16 20:50:00 - [198] BIG and Xanadu need to go BYE BYE. No more CCP help, No more ripping peeps off, NO MORE taking advantage of others in EVE. That chat log makes it REALLY clear that BIG has no respect for the CFS forces. (DUH) Curse has their space, we don't go into others and LET YOU live there and defend while we make money from the stations. SICK SICK SICK. KILL THEM!!!!
benwallace	Posted - 2004.08.16 21:44:00 - [199] yes every knows we got our ass kicked then we out numbered them who cares but if fa is out of pb I want to know if ca will every attack pb again --------------------------
benwallace	Posted - 2004.08.16 21:44:00 - [200] yes every knows we got our ass kicked then we out numbered them who cares but if fa is out of pb I want to know if ca will every attack pb again --------------------------
Vapouriz3r	Posted - 2004.08.16 21:55:00 - [201] Originally by: benwallace yes every knows we got our ass kicked then we out numbered them who cares but if fa is out of pb I want to know if ca will every attack pb again Why not contact someone from ranked in CA and ask. Thats if King Raindrop will let you.
Vapouriz3r	Posted - 2004.08.16 21:55:00 - [202] Originally by: benwallace yes every knows we got our ass kicked then we out numbered them who cares but if fa is out of pb I want to know if ca will every attack pb again Why not contact someone from ranked in CA and ask. Thats if King Raindrop will let you.
Vasche	Posted - 2004.08.16 22:57:00 - [203] So if CFS is weak or even dead, why has'nt another alliance moved in and conquered the whole area? -----------------------
Vasche	Posted - 2004.08.16 22:57:00 - [204] So if CFS is weak or even dead, why has'nt another alliance moved in and conquered the whole area? -----------------------
Tristan	Posted - 2004.08.16 23:08:00 - [205] Cause of the smell from next door
Tristan	Posted - 2004.08.16 23:08:00 - [206] Cause of the smell from next door
AvanCade	Posted - 2004.08.16 23:25:00 - [207] Originally by: Vasche So if CFS is weak or even dead, why has'nt another alliance moved in and conquered the whole area? FA cant take it. Since they cant (as we see) defend this space. SA doesnt take it, because it seems they have no interest. CA doesnt take it, because ?? hell i dont know. All other alliances are way out to do it arrr
AvanCade	Posted - 2004.08.16 23:25:00 - [208] Originally by: Vasche So if CFS is weak or even dead, why has'nt another alliance moved in and conquered the whole area? FA cant take it. Since they cant (as we see) defend this space. SA doesnt take it, because it seems they have no interest. CA doesnt take it, because ?? hell i dont know. All other alliances are way out to do it arrr
Vasche	Posted - 2004.08.16 23:31:00 - [209] Well if Curse took it they would be able to launch attacks upon SA and XIF from two different fronts. If Fountain took it they would be weak from the start but would be able to expand and grow considerably over time. Some risks just need to be taken while the option is open -----------------------
Vasche	Posted - 2004.08.16 23:31:00 - [210] Well if Curse took it they would be able to launch attacks upon SA and XIF from two different fronts. If Fountain took it they would be weak from the start but would be able to expand and grow considerably over time. Some risks just need to be taken while the option is open -----------------------
Xanadex	Posted - 2004.08.16 23:38:00 - [211] Originally by: Vasche Well if Curse took it they would be able to launch attacks upon SA and XIF from two different fronts. If Fountain took it they would be weak from the start but would be able to expand and grow considerably over time. Some risks just need to be taken while the option is open BUzzzzz.. Wrong answer. FA is the true EBIL in EVE. Not SA not Xetic not Jade. So if Xetic can suck it up and move on and have fun then do it, if they continue aggression. "may god have mercy on their souls".
Xanadex	Posted - 2004.08.16 23:38:00 - [212] Originally by: Vasche Well if Curse took it they would be able to launch attacks upon SA and XIF from two different fronts. If Fountain took it they would be weak from the start but would be able to expand and grow considerably over time. Some risks just need to be taken while the option is open BUzzzzz.. Wrong answer. FA is the true EBIL in EVE. Not SA not Xetic not Jade. So if Xetic can suck it up and move on and have fun then do it, if they continue aggression. "may god have mercy on their souls".
Jiggy	Posted - 2004.08.17 02:41:00 - [213] Originally by: Vasche So if CFS is weak or even dead, why has'nt another alliance moved in and conquered the whole area? CA have enough territory, slot of which they dont bother defending a whole lot and would rather be attacking somewhere else. Don't think SA are that interested in moving into new territory unless they can get more corps in to defend that territory. No point in Xetic expanding as they already have one of the largest territory per player ratios in EVE as it is. From an FA point of view(ex-FA myself), its too much hassle having to deal with refineries and factories being 10 to 20 jumps from each other when you can base in fountain and have them in the same station or system so FA only travel down there for the odd fight and hunting laser rats instead of hybrid rats.There is also the whole not having the manpower to defend the area adiquitely, althought FA could get enough corps into the alliance to hold the area if they were really motivated to do so. And other Alliance are too far from CFS space to exert control over the area both militarily and politically and all the small regional alliances in CFS space are still weaker then CFS itself so cant take it off of them, if CFS and the small alliances operating within its space actually got off their arses and cooperated they could get some decent strength together but there seems to be no inclination to do so so nothing gets done and the status quo remains.
Jiggy	Posted - 2004.08.17 02:41:00 - [214] Originally by: Vasche So if CFS is weak or even dead, why has'nt another alliance moved in and conquered the whole area? CA have enough territory, slot of which they dont bother defending a whole lot and would rather be attacking somewhere else. Don't think SA are that interested in moving into new territory unless they can get more corps in to defend that territory. No point in Xetic expanding as they already have one of the largest territory per player ratios in EVE as it is. From an FA point of view(ex-FA myself), its too much hassle having to deal with refineries and factories being 10 to 20 jumps from each other when you can base in fountain and have them in the same station or system so FA only travel down there for the odd fight and hunting laser rats instead of hybrid rats.There is also the whole not having the manpower to defend the area adiquitely, althought FA could get enough corps into the alliance to hold the area if they were really motivated to do so. And other Alliance are too far from CFS space to exert control over the area both militarily and politically and all the small regional alliances in CFS space are still weaker then CFS itself so cant take it off of them, if CFS and the small alliances operating within its space actually got off their arses and cooperated they could get some decent strength together but there seems to be no inclination to do so so nothing gets done and the status quo remains.
EviL ElecTricIaN	Posted - 2004.08.17 04:44:00 - [215] Intergalatic Patrons of Terror will shortly be taking over CFS space. Applications from other corps who wish to stake a claim in the new Alliance are welcome, please direct any enquiries to "Liquor Solidus"
EviL ElecTricIaN	Posted - 2004.08.17 04:44:00 - [216] Intergalatic Patrons of Terror will shortly be taking over CFS space. Applications from other corps who wish to stake a claim in the new Alliance are welcome, please direct any enquiries to "Liquor Solidus"
Tommy Boy	Posted - 2004.08.17 05:49:00 - [217] Edited by: Tommy Boy on 17/08/2004 06:17:37 No more bickering- _____________________ Times have to change ---------------------
Tommy Boy	Posted - 2004.08.17 05:49:00 - [218] Edited by: Tommy Boy on 17/08/2004 06:17:37 No more bickering- _____________________ Times have to change ---------------------
Alimis Drevon	Posted - 2004.08.17 06:21:00 - [219] Look man, just casue the EX CFSDF Have Changed they're name, Dont mean we are gonna let you take over CFS. We are just sitting out on this whole BS conflict going on, because as Shinra can atest to we tried to avoid it before it started. CA and FA fighting is a good thing, and beside we cant stop them from fighting, they will fight forever, and neither one can win BACAUSE YOU CAN'T KILL THE PILOTS, and you can just replace the ships every day, so a war is really a pointless thing, unless you can take pilot losses which you cant.its just to bad they have to do it in our space. But what the hell, they fight everywhere so one place is as good as another, and all the CFS have to do is find a common goal to rebuild on. And the ol' " Kill CA thing" thing is not gonna work because once we kill the CA guys here then what? we go back to fighting amonst are selves and the same BS all over again, i suggest those peope left loyal to the CFS stake a claim In Querious, and concentrate all forces in that region, First we remove CA influence from the Area, then we remove FA influence from the area, and if BA would turn on the CFS for FA, it shows where they're alegiance really lies. As for the Shinra/CFSDF battles.. we gotta say they are great pilots, and once all this settles down we will be back to fight you guys some more. But untill the peope of the CFS actually want help, i dont think that the Gunslingers are going to do anything but sit here with our 40+ ships, and just watch, because we fought for two months against CA, we held A2 for 8 days strait with never less than 5-6 ships on around the clock,( i think some CA can atest to this) then we tried to prevent an all out war, and were denouced as traitors. Although this order has been retracted, the very Insult is still salt in the wound so to speack. So if you want our help... you the noble people of the CFS need to get off your a$$ and stop fighting amongst each and get some damn pride in yourselves and your home. Do this and the Gunslinger Armada/ EX-CFSDF will return.
Alimis Drevon	Posted - 2004.08.17 06:21:00 - [220] Look man, just casue the EX CFSDF Have Changed they're name, Dont mean we are gonna let you take over CFS. We are just sitting out on this whole BS conflict going on, because as Shinra can atest to we tried to avoid it before it started. CA and FA fighting is a good thing, and beside we cant stop them from fighting, they will fight forever, and neither one can win BACAUSE YOU CAN'T KILL THE PILOTS, and you can just replace the ships every day, so a war is really a pointless thing, unless you can take pilot losses which you cant.its just to bad they have to do it in our space. But what the hell, they fight everywhere so one place is as good as another, and all the CFS have to do is find a common goal to rebuild on. And the ol' " Kill CA thing" thing is not gonna work because once we kill the CA guys here then what? we go back to fighting amonst are selves and the same BS all over again, i suggest those peope left loyal to the CFS stake a claim In Querious, and concentrate all forces in that region, First we remove CA influence from the Area, then we remove FA influence from the area, and if BA would turn on the CFS for FA, it shows where they're alegiance really lies. As for the Shinra/CFSDF battles.. we gotta say they are great pilots, and once all this settles down we will be back to fight you guys some more. But untill the peope of the CFS actually want help, i dont think that the Gunslingers are going to do anything but sit here with our 40+ ships, and just watch, because we fought for two months against CA, we held A2 for 8 days strait with never less than 5-6 ships on around the clock,( i think some CA can atest to this) then we tried to prevent an all out war, and were denouced as traitors. Although this order has been retracted, the very Insult is still salt in the wound so to speack. So if you want our help... you the noble people of the CFS need to get off your a$$ and stop fighting amongst each and get some damn pride in yourselves and your home. Do this and the Gunslinger Armada/ EX-CFSDF will return.
dj lightning	Posted - 2004.08.17 06:41:00 - [221] Originally by: Shredder Originally by: Loka Originally by: Shredder I cant access that dood :/ If its the fraps of the RUS vs Stain//CFS battle then you will clearly be able to see rus were outnumbered 4 to 1 but went in anyway cuz theyre phycotic madmen, and they still took out 4 battleships but lost 6 (if it is that fraps then you will see how brave rus are, and how well they did to take 4 out). That is the only battle that you could remotly say we have ever lost in the region, and that did not involve any Shinra pilots. If you have a different fraps to that then by all means please show it to me. Yes it was the fight of SA+CFS(+ADGA corp) near TPAR in Period Bases. A good fight btw. CA and we have similiar forces. Yes tbh i think we outnumbered them, but not even 2:1 it was much less. The CA in local congratulated us, that we havent waited in TPAR, but moved north to face them. Yes we jumped into them, but they warped instantly to the other Gate, where we faced them. We won this time, next time things can change. But CA said us in local, they gratulate us for fighting almost even odds and having the balls to jump into them instad of lagging them to hell on other side! Sometimes it wont be so bad to honor your enemy instad of declining anything. This just for the protocol. I try to host the fraps when iam at home at different server. Well thats not what ive heard, but i dont really know for sure, i just know what i saw in the fraps. Anyhow all our previous statments remain true since we were always talking about the shinra fleet. The RUS fleet is new to this area and angagements in this operation, but from what i hear theyre doing well against BA. Gratz for doing well against them if thats what happened, but to be quite honest i suspect it was mostly stain that did the damage. (i still think rus were massivly outnumbered, look at the fraps shrug) RUS VS STAIN ?????? sorry m8 more like DSMA and CFS i was in command of that fleet and they was no STAIN there if its the 1 u are talking about and it was a good fight and it was less then 2-1
dj lightning	Posted - 2004.08.17 06:41:00 - [222] Originally by: Shredder Originally by: Loka Originally by: Shredder I cant access that dood :/ If its the fraps of the RUS vs Stain//CFS battle then you will clearly be able to see rus were outnumbered 4 to 1 but went in anyway cuz theyre phycotic madmen, and they still took out 4 battleships but lost 6 (if it is that fraps then you will see how brave rus are, and how well they did to take 4 out). That is the only battle that you could remotly say we have ever lost in the region, and that did not involve any Shinra pilots. If you have a different fraps to that then by all means please show it to me. Yes it was the fight of SA+CFS(+ADGA corp) near TPAR in Period Bases. A good fight btw. CA and we have similiar forces. Yes tbh i think we outnumbered them, but not even 2:1 it was much less. The CA in local congratulated us, that we havent waited in TPAR, but moved north to face them. Yes we jumped into them, but they warped instantly to the other Gate, where we faced them. We won this time, next time things can change. But CA said us in local, they gratulate us for fighting almost even odds and having the balls to jump into them instad of lagging them to hell on other side! Sometimes it wont be so bad to honor your enemy instad of declining anything. This just for the protocol. I try to host the fraps when iam at home at different server. Well thats not what ive heard, but i dont really know for sure, i just know what i saw in the fraps. Anyhow all our previous statments remain true since we were always talking about the shinra fleet. The RUS fleet is new to this area and angagements in this operation, but from what i hear theyre doing well against BA. Gratz for doing well against them if thats what happened, but to be quite honest i suspect it was mostly stain that did the damage. (i still think rus were massivly outnumbered, look at the fraps shrug) RUS VS STAIN ?????? sorry m8 more like DSMA and CFS i was in command of that fleet and they was no STAIN there if its the 1 u are talking about and it was a good fight and it was less then 2-1
Edison Frisk	Posted - 2004.08.17 10:49:00 - [223] tsk tsk, I am a member of Macrosoft and can't use any of the facilities in TPAR-G now, surely as a trial member of CFS in CFS space I should be able to use the station accordingly. Hasn't this been sorted out yet. And Tommy you are a very, very bad boy. I agree with your principles in some aspects (CFS need to have more pride in themselves and their region) but the way you went about it was a little naughty and I am sure that Demian or Reptile (CEO's) wouldn't have approved. I agree political channels are a little dry at the minute and not that productive but to join our corp simply to stir it up is wrong. As an ex emp-fed member what were you thinking?? Macrosoft have built up a very favourable reputation with all there in the TPAR region and in one act of recklessness you have put a big dent in it. I have spoke to you before and you seemed a nice bloke, I just dont understand why you have acted this way? I am yet to speak to Demian and Rep on this matter. looks on in bewilderment.....
Edison Frisk	Posted - 2004.08.17 10:49:00 - [224] tsk tsk, I am a member of Macrosoft and can't use any of the facilities in TPAR-G now, surely as a trial member of CFS in CFS space I should be able to use the station accordingly. Hasn't this been sorted out yet. And Tommy you are a very, very bad boy. I agree with your principles in some aspects (CFS need to have more pride in themselves and their region) but the way you went about it was a little naughty and I am sure that Demian or Reptile (CEO's) wouldn't have approved. I agree political channels are a little dry at the minute and not that productive but to join our corp simply to stir it up is wrong. As an ex emp-fed member what were you thinking?? Macrosoft have built up a very favourable reputation with all there in the TPAR region and in one act of recklessness you have put a big dent in it. I have spoke to you before and you seemed a nice bloke, I just dont understand why you have acted this way? I am yet to speak to Demian and Rep on this matter. looks on in bewilderment.....
AvanCade	Posted - 2004.08.17 13:09:00 - [225] Some people like Tommy and me for example just dare to take a step further, on a slippery surface. Others don't. Both ways can work. All depends on the situation.
AvanCade	Posted - 2004.08.17 13:09:00 - [226] Some people like Tommy and me for example just dare to take a step further, on a slippery surface. Others don't. Both ways can work. All depends on the situation.
Zelota	Posted - 2004.08.17 15:02:00 - [227] if cfs peps need a extra expirienced combat pilot plz convo zelota in game.Im not joken i will help you kill fa if need be Vid of the week
Zelota	Posted - 2004.08.17 15:02:00 - [228] if cfs peps need a extra expirienced combat pilot plz convo zelota in game.Im not joken i will help you kill fa if need be Vid of the week
AvanCade	Posted - 2004.08.17 15:57:00 - [229] Heh good offer, but noone can get the CFS politicians to do anything :) [ps. i havent seen any politicians on the field, coincidence, or afraid ?]
AvanCade	Posted - 2004.08.17 15:57:00 - [230] Heh good offer, but noone can get the CFS politicians to do anything :) [ps. i havent seen any politicians on the field, coincidence, or afraid ?]
Reverend Necrona	Posted - 2004.08.17 16:39:00 - [231] I'm scared of this CFSDF HOLD ME!! HOLD ME SOMEONE!! Reverend Necrona
Reverend Necrona	Posted - 2004.08.17 16:39:00 - [232] I'm scared of this CFSDF HOLD ME!! HOLD ME SOMEONE!! Reverend Necrona
Vapouriz3r	Posted - 2004.08.17 17:40:00 - [233] Originally by: AvanCade Heh good offer, but noone can get the CFS politicians to do anything :) [ps. i havent seen any politicians on the field, coincidence, or afraid ?] Or maybe FA alts?
Vapouriz3r	Posted - 2004.08.17 17:40:00 - [234] Originally by: AvanCade Heh good offer, but noone can get the CFS politicians to do anything :) [ps. i havent seen any politicians on the field, coincidence, or afraid ?] Or maybe FA alts?
Alkad Mzu	Posted - 2004.08.17 21:02:00 - [235] Originally by: AvanCade [ps. i havent seen any politicians on the field, coincidence, or afraid ?] Happy to oblige. Perhaps you should consider the possibility that the lack of politicians replying to this thread has to do with you and TommyBoy being irrelevant ****ants with delusions of grandeur, playing it out on an arena any decent politician would shun? Dunno, just a thought. Nevertheless, for those with a genuine interest in the continued freedom and stability of CFS space, we have the following comments: At no point have we ever claimed any chunk of CFS space. Nor do we intend to. Not now, not later, not ever. We have an agreement with CFS regarding the stations we control in their space, and we intend to continue to honor this agreement. You see, contrary to popular belief, we like CFS, we enjoy working with them, and we respect CFS as you would respect a good friend and partner. In light of this, I'm sure you all realise how disapointed we would be if any corporation or alliance should attempt to set aside the fine ideals of CFS and proceed to close off Delve, Querious or Period Basis for general public access. It is quite obvious that CA are running a campaign to destabilize the regions in question, which from a strategic point of wiew makes perfect sense, I must admit. We see it from the various alts and lackeys posting in the latest run of anti-CFS and anti-FA propaganda, and we see it from the poorly disguised attempts at setting everyone in the area up against eachother at every given opportunity. Interesting piece of work, but in the end it will only succeed if the public buys the deception. To the corporations and alliances calling CFS space their home: We urge you to set aside your differences, to work together, and to call the CA bluff for what it is. Lies and deceit. There is nothing to gain from grabbing the bait they are offering, by doing so you would only serve to further fulfill their goals of anarchy and chaos, from which they would prey on you like they always have, and always will want to do. The only road to stability and prosperity in a diverse and dynamic environment like CFS space, is through communication and common sense. You have all shown your capabilities for both in your dealings with FA, now is the time to show the EVE community your resolve and dedication towards your homeland. The FA will support any initiative at coordinating the efforts of the various corporations and alliances currently in CFS space, and we will do so with more than words. So, to sum things up for those not inclined to read several paragraphs of text: -We still love CFS -We like stability -We will kill you if you take our stations -CA are cnuts Anyone else thinking "what else is new"? ________________________________________________ Head of Public Relations, Fountain Alliance
Alkad Mzu	Posted - 2004.08.17 21:02:00 - [236] Originally by: AvanCade [ps. i havent seen any politicians on the field, coincidence, or afraid ?] Happy to oblige. Perhaps you should consider the possibility that the lack of politicians replying to this thread has to do with you and TommyBoy being irrelevant ****ants with delusions of grandeur, playing it out on an arena any decent politician would shun? Dunno, just a thought. Nevertheless, for those with a genuine interest in the continued freedom and stability of CFS space, we have the following comments: At no point have we ever claimed any chunk of CFS space. Nor do we intend to. Not now, not later, not ever. We have an agreement with CFS regarding the stations we control in their space, and we intend to continue to honor this agreement. You see, contrary to popular belief, we like CFS, we enjoy working with them, and we respect CFS as you would respect a good friend and partner. In light of this, I'm sure you all realise how disapointed we would be if any corporation or alliance should attempt to set aside the fine ideals of CFS and proceed to close off Delve, Querious or Period Basis for general public access. It is quite obvious that CA are running a campaign to destabilize the regions in question, which from a strategic point of wiew makes perfect sense, I must admit. We see it from the various alts and lackeys posting in the latest run of anti-CFS and anti-FA propaganda, and we see it from the poorly disguised attempts at setting everyone in the area up against eachother at every given opportunity. Interesting piece of work, but in the end it will only succeed if the public buys the deception. To the corporations and alliances calling CFS space their home: We urge you to set aside your differences, to work together, and to call the CA bluff for what it is. Lies and deceit. There is nothing to gain from grabbing the bait they are offering, by doing so you would only serve to further fulfill their goals of anarchy and chaos, from which they would prey on you like they always have, and always will want to do. The only road to stability and prosperity in a diverse and dynamic environment like CFS space, is through communication and common sense. You have all shown your capabilities for both in your dealings with FA, now is the time to show the EVE community your resolve and dedication towards your homeland. The FA will support any initiative at coordinating the efforts of the various corporations and alliances currently in CFS space, and we will do so with more than words. So, to sum things up for those not inclined to read several paragraphs of text: -We still love CFS -We like stability -We will kill you if you take our stations -CA are cnuts Anyone else thinking "what else is new"? ________________________________________________ Head of Public Relations, Fountain Alliance
Shredder	Posted - 2004.08.17 21:12:00 - [237] Originally by: Alkad Mzu -We will kill you if you take our stations -CA are cnuts So, the fact remains you want to own stations in space that is not yours. Oh and calling us names like that is just plain low. None of the CFS people here that have posted were ca alts. everyone seems to think ca has nothing better to do than buy up alt accounts and have hundreds of alts, we dont. The comments made by CFS here are their own. We dont want to distablise the region, or even stablise the region, we dont care less, we just dont want FA owning stations here, and anyone with half a brain can clearly see that those motives are driving us. We also clearly have no interest in ownining CFS stations ourselves. So to sum things up - CA has NO interest in owning CFS stations - CA simply does not want FA owning CFS stations - CFS are STILL going to have their OWN stations owned by a foriegn group (according to what was said by Alkad)
Shredder	Posted - 2004.08.17 21:12:00 - [238] Originally by: Alkad Mzu -We will kill you if you take our stations -CA are cnuts So, the fact remains you want to own stations in space that is not yours. Oh and calling us names like that is just plain low. None of the CFS people here that have posted were ca alts. everyone seems to think ca has nothing better to do than buy up alt accounts and have hundreds of alts, we dont. The comments made by CFS here are their own. We dont want to distablise the region, or even stablise the region, we dont care less, we just dont want FA owning stations here, and anyone with half a brain can clearly see that those motives are driving us. We also clearly have no interest in ownining CFS stations ourselves. So to sum things up - CA has NO interest in owning CFS stations - CA simply does not want FA owning CFS stations - CFS are STILL going to have their OWN stations owned by a foriegn group (according to what was said by Alkad)
Alkad Mzu	Posted - 2004.08.17 21:22:00 - [239] Edited by: Alkad Mzu on 17/08/2004 21:23:55 Originally by: Shredder - CFS are STILL going to have their OWN stations owned by a foriegn group (according to what was said by Alkad) And rightfully so, by an agreement made between two alliances, none of them including Shinra. I fail to see how this any concern of yours, unless my unveiling of your plans fell into the category "there's always deniability". ________________________________________________ Head of Public Relations, Fountain Alliance
Alkad Mzu	Posted - 2004.08.17 21:22:00 - [240] Edited by: Alkad Mzu on 17/08/2004 21:23:55 Originally by: Shredder - CFS are STILL going to have their OWN stations owned by a foriegn group (according to what was said by Alkad) And rightfully so, by an agreement made between two alliances, none of them including Shinra. I fail to see how this any concern of yours, unless my unveiling of your plans fell into the category "there's always deniability". ________________________________________________ Head of Public Relations, Fountain Alliance
AvanCade	Posted - 2004.08.17 21:25:00 - [241] Originally by: Alkad Mzu Originally by: AvanCade [ps. i havent seen any politicians on the field, coincidence, or afraid ?] Happy to oblige. yada yada yada Fountain Alliance does not want to work with CFS. Some Xanadu girl told me that. CFS had to show worthy. AND the threaty that was made does not say BIG can own the T-PAR stations. 3rd, you only attack the weak ? I mean, i hear you guys trying to outblob CA, but dont fight them, but you will fight the (ofcourse) weaker CFS ? How noble. As many say, CA isnt the 'scum' of EVE. Fountain Alliance is. With their PR they try to own everything, but if CA doesnt believe one thing (afaik) its PR and talk. Thats why you getting arsekicked down there. I will try not to respond on this thread anymore since FA PR dudes and girls are ignorant ..[fillinhere]..
AvanCade	Posted - 2004.08.17 21:25:00 - [242] Originally by: Alkad Mzu Originally by: AvanCade [ps. i havent seen any politicians on the field, coincidence, or afraid ?] Happy to oblige. yada yada yada Fountain Alliance does not want to work with CFS. Some Xanadu girl told me that. CFS had to show worthy. AND the threaty that was made does not say BIG can own the T-PAR stations. 3rd, you only attack the weak ? I mean, i hear you guys trying to outblob CA, but dont fight them, but you will fight the (ofcourse) weaker CFS ? How noble. As many say, CA isnt the 'scum' of EVE. Fountain Alliance is. With their PR they try to own everything, but if CA doesnt believe one thing (afaik) its PR and talk. Thats why you getting arsekicked down there. I will try not to respond on this thread anymore since FA PR dudes and girls are ignorant ..[fillinhere]..
Sagainyte	Posted - 2004.08.17 21:54:00 - [243] afaik the real problem is that the "CFS" region are really a mix of MANY different alliances laying claim. CFS might actually be the weakest of those but they are still the "placeholder" alliance. I'm pretty sure CA wants FA gone because it would destabilize the entire region. FA is the mediator that keeps the factions from going to war over the stations. If left to their own devices I have a very strong feeling that CFS would be fighting DSMA in Period Basis and Star Alliance in Delve for control of the stations. btw there is a lot of total CA propaganda on this thread. -The entire spredding of rumors about station taxes and corp offices requiring 120m rent. Geez you messed that one up Shredder. But you dont care fcourse. You are new member of you corp and has little to lose because you have no credibility to beging with. Afaik the ONLY corp that paid 120 mill was somebody wanting to get an office slot from another corp in Period Basis...the corp that wanted 120million was Zoners (CA)...... -FA begin the true evil in Eve and CA being the good guy. Whatever. Guess we'll see when Shiva comes and CA contructs their first space thingie. I'm gonna put real money on the server going up in smoke when ALL the people CA ****ed of head for the same system because they know there is a target that cant run or logoff. But then again..CA might have realized that Shiva comes with a "not applicable for CA" sticker and turned to a path of utter sense and good behaviour. Argh better stop now..I'm almost spouting CA propaganda myself now.
Sagainyte	Posted - 2004.08.17 21:54:00 - [244] afaik the real problem is that the "CFS" region are really a mix of MANY different alliances laying claim. CFS might actually be the weakest of those but they are still the "placeholder" alliance. I'm pretty sure CA wants FA gone because it would destabilize the entire region. FA is the mediator that keeps the factions from going to war over the stations. If left to their own devices I have a very strong feeling that CFS would be fighting DSMA in Period Basis and Star Alliance in Delve for control of the stations. btw there is a lot of total CA propaganda on this thread. -The entire spredding of rumors about station taxes and corp offices requiring 120m rent. Geez you messed that one up Shredder. But you dont care fcourse. You are new member of you corp and has little to lose because you have no credibility to beging with. Afaik the ONLY corp that paid 120 mill was somebody wanting to get an office slot from another corp in Period Basis...the corp that wanted 120million was Zoners (CA)...... -FA begin the true evil in Eve and CA being the good guy. Whatever. Guess we'll see when Shiva comes and CA contructs their first space thingie. I'm gonna put real money on the server going up in smoke when ALL the people CA ****ed of head for the same system because they know there is a target that cant run or logoff. But then again..CA might have realized that Shiva comes with a "not applicable for CA" sticker and turned to a path of utter sense and good behaviour. Argh better stop now..I'm almost spouting CA propaganda myself now.
Shredder	Posted - 2004.08.17 22:07:00 - [245] Originally by: Sagainyte afaik the real problem is that the "CFS" region are really a mix of MANY different alliances laying claim. CFS might actually be the weakest of those but they are still the "placeholder" alliance. I'm pretty sure CA wants FA gone because it would destabilize the entire region. FA is the mediator that keeps the factions from going to war over the stations. If left to their own devices I have a very strong feeling that CFS would be fighting DSMA in Period Basis and Star Alliance in Delve for control of the stations. btw there is a lot of total CA propaganda on this thread. -The entire spredding of rumors about station taxes and corp offices requiring 120m rent. Geez you messed that one up Shredder. But you dont care fcourse. You are new member of you corp and has little to lose because you have no credibility to beging with. Afaik the ONLY corp that paid 120 mill was somebody wanting to get an office slot from another corp in Period Basis...the corp that wanted 120million was Zoners (CA)...... -FA begin the true evil in Eve and CA being the good guy. Whatever. Guess we'll see when Shiva comes and CA contructs their first space thingie. I'm gonna put real money on the server going up in smoke when ALL the people CA ****ed of head for the same system because they know there is a target that cant run or logoff. But then again..CA might have realized that Shiva comes with a "not applicable for CA" sticker and turned to a path of utter sense and good behaviour. Argh better stop now..I'm almost spouting CA propaganda myself now. I swear on my life that i was told by at least two CFS corporations in TPAR that they paid 120mil to rent offices. I can't say anything else than that. Whether its true or not i dont know, i merely said that's what i was told. As for how long ive been in shinra - yes ive only been with them about 6 weeks officialy, but ive spent 90% of my eve time with them for the past 7 months, and ive been in CA for the past 7 months (in a different CA corporation).
Shredder	Posted - 2004.08.17 22:07:00 - [246] Originally by: Sagainyte afaik the real problem is that the "CFS" region are really a mix of MANY different alliances laying claim. CFS might actually be the weakest of those but they are still the "placeholder" alliance. I'm pretty sure CA wants FA gone because it would destabilize the entire region. FA is the mediator that keeps the factions from going to war over the stations. If left to their own devices I have a very strong feeling that CFS would be fighting DSMA in Period Basis and Star Alliance in Delve for control of the stations. btw there is a lot of total CA propaganda on this thread. -The entire spredding of rumors about station taxes and corp offices requiring 120m rent. Geez you messed that one up Shredder. But you dont care fcourse. You are new member of you corp and has little to lose because you have no credibility to beging with. Afaik the ONLY corp that paid 120 mill was somebody wanting to get an office slot from another corp in Period Basis...the corp that wanted 120million was Zoners (CA)...... -FA begin the true evil in Eve and CA being the good guy. Whatever. Guess we'll see when Shiva comes and CA contructs their first space thingie. I'm gonna put real money on the server going up in smoke when ALL the people CA ****ed of head for the same system because they know there is a target that cant run or logoff. But then again..CA might have realized that Shiva comes with a "not applicable for CA" sticker and turned to a path of utter sense and good behaviour. Argh better stop now..I'm almost spouting CA propaganda myself now. I swear on my life that i was told by at least two CFS corporations in TPAR that they paid 120mil to rent offices. I can't say anything else than that. Whether its true or not i dont know, i merely said that's what i was told. As for how long ive been in shinra - yes ive only been with them about 6 weeks officialy, but ive spent 90% of my eve time with them for the past 7 months, and ive been in CA for the past 7 months (in a different CA corporation).
Alkad Mzu	Posted - 2004.08.17 22:20:00 - [247] Originally by: AvanCade Fountain Alliance does not want to work with CFS. Some Xanadu girl told me that. CFS had to show worthy. Your xanadu girlfriend does not speak for FA. I do. Quote: AND the threaty that was made does not say BIG can own the T-PAR stations. If you say so. On the other hand, it doesn't exclude it either. Quote: 3rd, you only attack the weak ? I mean, i hear you guys trying to outblob CA, but dont fight them, but you will fight the (ofcourse) weaker CFS ? How noble. Fight the CFS?? Did you even read my post? Jeeez ________________________________________________ Head of Public Relations, Fountain Alliance
Alkad Mzu	Posted - 2004.08.17 22:20:00 - [248] Originally by: AvanCade Fountain Alliance does not want to work with CFS. Some Xanadu girl told me that. CFS had to show worthy. Your xanadu girlfriend does not speak for FA. I do. Quote: AND the threaty that was made does not say BIG can own the T-PAR stations. If you say so. On the other hand, it doesn't exclude it either. Quote: 3rd, you only attack the weak ? I mean, i hear you guys trying to outblob CA, but dont fight them, but you will fight the (ofcourse) weaker CFS ? How noble. Fight the CFS?? Did you even read my post? Jeeez ________________________________________________ Head of Public Relations, Fountain Alliance
Kelly O'Connor	Posted - 2004.08.17 22:31:00 - [249] AINT NO MOUNTAIN HIGH ENOUGH
Kelly O'Connor	Posted - 2004.08.17 22:31:00 - [250] AINT NO MOUNTAIN HIGH ENOUGH
Kildarin Farushna	Posted - 2004.08.17 23:19:00 - [251] I heared today that FA is runned by 13 year olds That would explain a lot. O god O god ____ ->Lawless<- >>>New Formula<<< >>In your local 0.4 system soon<<
Kildarin Farushna	Posted - 2004.08.17 23:19:00 - [252] I heared today that FA is runned by 13 year olds That would explain a lot. O god O god ____ ->Lawless<- >>>New Formula<<< >>In your local 0.4 system soon<<
Alkad Mzu	Posted - 2004.08.17 23:28:00 - [253] Originally by: Kildarin Farushna I heared today that FA is runned by 13 year olds That would explain a lot. O god O god Actually, FA is run by the Bitter Old Farts section at London City Geriatric Care & Cookies Centre, I have no idea where you got the idea of 13 year olds. Personally I'm 34, and I have the spelling to prove it. ________________________________________________ Head of Public Relations, Fountain Alliance
Alkad Mzu	Posted - 2004.08.17 23:28:00 - [254] Originally by: Kildarin Farushna I heared today that FA is runned by 13 year olds That would explain a lot. O god O god Actually, FA is run by the Bitter Old Farts section at London City Geriatric Care & Cookies Centre, I have no idea where you got the idea of 13 year olds. Personally I'm 34, and I have the spelling to prove it. ________________________________________________ Head of Public Relations, Fountain Alliance
Fernando	Posted - 2004.08.17 23:30:00 - [255] Originally by: Kildarin Farushna I heared today that FA is runned by 13 year olds That would explain a lot. O god O god says the person with "WTFPWNAGE" in their sig...
Fernando	Posted - 2004.08.17 23:30:00 - [256] Originally by: Kildarin Farushna I heared today that FA is runned by 13 year olds That would explain a lot. O god O god says the person with "WTFPWNAGE" in their sig...
Kildarin Farushna	Posted - 2004.08.17 23:38:00 - [257] Actually, FA is run by the Bitter Old Farts section at London City Geriatric Care & Cookies Centre, I have no idea where you got the idea of 13 year olds. Personally I'm 34, and I have the spelling to prove it. eey it was only a rumour. But that [b]"FA is run by the Bitter Old Farts section at London City Geriatric Care & Cookies Centre"[?b]" comment would explain a lot about the "We only gain and do not give in return" Policy from FA. ____ ->Lawless<- >>>New Formula<<< >>In your local 0.4 system soon<<
Kildarin Farushna	Posted - 2004.08.17 23:38:00 - [258] Actually, FA is run by the Bitter Old Farts section at London City Geriatric Care & Cookies Centre, I have no idea where you got the idea of 13 year olds. Personally I'm 34, and I have the spelling to prove it. eey it was only a rumour. But that [b]"FA is run by the Bitter Old Farts section at London City Geriatric Care & Cookies Centre"[?b]" comment would explain a lot about the "We only gain and do not give in return" Policy from FA. ____ ->Lawless<- >>>New Formula<<< >>In your local 0.4 system soon<<
Kildarin Farushna	Posted - 2004.08.17 23:44:00 - [259] Edited by: Kildarin Farushna on 17/08/2004 23:46:17 Originally by: Fernando says the person with "WTFPWNAGE" in their sig... reply with your main, dude. posting with your alt is lame ____ ->Lawless<- >>>New Formula<<< >>In your local 0.4 system soon<<
Kildarin Farushna	Posted - 2004.08.17 23:44:00 - [260] Edited by: Kildarin Farushna on 17/08/2004 23:46:17 Originally by: Fernando says the person with "WTFPWNAGE" in their sig... reply with your main, dude. posting with your alt is lame ____ ->Lawless<- >>>New Formula<<< >>In your local 0.4 system soon<<
Leno	Posted - 2004.08.17 23:46:00 - [261] Edited by: Leno on 17/08/2004 23:49:49 Originally by: Kildarin Farushna Edited by: Kildarin Farushna on 17/08/2004 23:46:17 Originally by: Fernando says the person with "WTFPWNAGE" in their sig... reply with your main, dude. posting with your alt is lame crap i did post with an alt, oops my bad, either way ur still 12 in my mind EDIT: oh yeah and if u want a list of all my alts just ask, i got nothing to hide... --------------- RIP - Smoske, My Friend
Leno	Posted - 2004.08.17 23:46:00 - [262] Edited by: Leno on 17/08/2004 23:49:49 Originally by: Kildarin Farushna Edited by: Kildarin Farushna on 17/08/2004 23:46:17 Originally by: Fernando says the person with "WTFPWNAGE" in their sig... reply with your main, dude. posting with your alt is lame crap i did post with an alt, oops my bad, either way ur still 12 in my mind EDIT: oh yeah and if u want a list of all my alts just ask, i got nothing to hide... --------------- RIP - Smoske, My Friend
Aneu Angellus	Posted - 2004.08.18 12:25:00 - [263] Edited by: Aneu Angellus on 21/08/2004 14:02:29 When i was in Rev0luti0n i was contacted by CFS to strike a deal, Revol would hit FA from Aridia while CFS took back Delve... Conrad and his counter-part Meridious both agreed to this so the fight went on and Rev0l prepared for an incursion into Fountain Space... We neared the completion point and were almost ready to strike when Conrad and counterpart both convo'd me. They both said they were ready and to strike now... so we did Rev0l went in guns blazing and headed directly to YZ-LQL... but CFS... did nothing, CFS diserve what they get, if its from CA/FA or anyone... Also i have been preaching that FA are the biggest hypocrits in this game and backstab anyone they want to... even their own members... (Watch an FA alt called Walking Contradiction reply... he likes me) Aneu ________________ Aneu Angellus Vengeance Of The Fallen - WolfPack Military Captain
Aneu Angellus	Posted - 2004.08.18 12:25:00 - [264] Edited by: Aneu Angellus on 21/08/2004 14:02:29 When i was in Rev0luti0n i was contacted by CFS to strike a deal, Revol would hit FA from Aridia while CFS took back Delve... Conrad and his counter-part Meridious both agreed to this so the fight went on and Rev0l prepared for an incursion into Fountain Space... We neared the completion point and were almost ready to strike when Conrad and counterpart both convo'd me. They both said they were ready and to strike now... so we did Rev0l went in guns blazing and headed directly to YZ-LQL... but CFS... did nothing, CFS diserve what they get, if its from CA/FA or anyone... Also i have been preaching that FA are the biggest hypocrits in this game and backstab anyone they want to... even their own members... (Watch an FA alt called Walking Contradiction reply... he likes me) Aneu ________________ Aneu Angellus Vengeance Of The Fallen - WolfPack Military Captain
Aneu Angellus	Posted - 2004.08.21 14:02:00 - [265] I would appreciate a reply from an FA rep and CFS rep... Aneu ________________ Aneu Angellus Vengeance Of The Fallen - WolfPack Military Captain
Aneu Angellus	Posted - 2004.08.21 14:02:00 - [266] I would appreciate a reply from an FA rep and CFS rep... Aneu ________________ Aneu Angellus Vengeance Of The Fallen - WolfPack Military Captain
SithEwok	Posted - 2004.08.25 10:39:00 - [267] Originally by: Tommy Boy So after all it looks like Fountain ALliance will continue to TAX and treaten us, while we defend their stations lmfaorotf---------- HOW THE HECK DO YOU THINK FA WAS FORMED?!?!?!?
SithEwok	Posted - 2004.08.25 10:39:00 - [268] Originally by: Tommy Boy So after all it looks like Fountain ALliance will continue to TAX and treaten us, while we defend their stations lmfaorotf---------- HOW THE HECK DO YOU THINK FA WAS FORMED?!?!?!?

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