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Sidrat Flush
Caldari Life is Experience Rally Against Evil
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Posted - 2009.03.15 11:37:00 -
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I know it hasn't been that long but what is the general populations opinion on this "feature"?
It's a question I'm asking because I'm sure they're going to be bringing it to a 0.0 and low sec system near you soon.
Is it a good thing? Have you come across people from a different corp/alliance in wh space? What was the result?
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Olixia Castitatis
Gallente Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2009.03.15 11:38:00 -
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It's not that different. Instead of putting local in a separate window and checking it on occasion, you put your directional scanner in a different window and check it on occasion.
It makes cloaky ships more interesting, though. -----------------------
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Wet Ferret
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Posted - 2009.03.15 11:39:00 -
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Sniper Wolf18
Gallente A Pretty Pony Princess General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2009.03.15 11:39:00 -
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Originally by: Sidrat Flush I know it hasn't been that long but what is the general populations opinion on this "feature"?
It's a question I'm asking because I'm sure they're going to be bringing it to a 0.0 and low sec system near you soon.
Is it a good thing? Have you come across people from a different corp/alliance in wh space? What was the result?
I doubt they will bring delayed local to 0.0/losec i was under the impression that it was SOLEY 0.0 I like the delayed local and my impressions of it were: Killed people Got killed
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Jovoich
Kleinrock Heavy Industries The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2009.03.15 11:42:00 -
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Originally by: Wet Ferret *click directional scanner*
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Quick!! what do I do now!? Do I just stop scanning!?!!?!?! HELPZ HELPZ HELPZ
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Schani Kratnorr
x13
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Posted - 2009.03.15 11:45:00 -
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Originally by: Sidrat Flush I know it hasn't been that long but what is the general populations opinion on this "feature"?
I dont know abut the rest of EVE, bu I think ti is a good thing. No easy glance at local. Get scanning, get probes out, tread carefully...
Originally by: Sidrat Flush It's a question I'm asking because I'm sure they're going to be bringing it to a 0.0 and low sec system near you soon.
You have no way of knowing. Pure speculation and sensationalist posting.
Originally by: Sidrat Flush Is it a good thing? Have you come across people from a different corp/alliance in wh space? What was the result?
Members of my corp and alliance (x13) have encountered other ships beyond wormholes. The killmails cannot be posted yet (due to most killboard software not being updated with the new items/systems.)
The way Unknown systems ae connected to the rest of EVE is likely to cause a lot of enounters that would not otherwise have taken place. For that alone, this patch might be the most interesting in years...
There is simply no way of knowing what will happen...
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Del Narveux
Dukes of Hazard
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Posted - 2009.03.15 11:47:00 -
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I think delayed would work fine if there were a bit less people in W-space, which will no doubt happen once the new hotness wears off. As for bringing it to 0.0, it wont happen. Yeah, sometimes BobSwarm gripes about local to do the hard, edgy pirate thing for the crowd but they'd circle the wagons and declare all out forum war if anything threatened the unlimited ISK factory supplying the hard, edgy pirate-ness.  _________________ [IMAGE REMOVED] -- aka Cpt Bogus -- Is that my torped sig cloaking your base?
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Ivan Kinsikor
Amarr Void Engineers
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Posted - 2009.03.15 11:49:00 -
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The lack of local has hardly slowed the corp I'm in down in WHSpace. Even though we don't have Eve's best scanner anymore, we've still been able to keep track just fine of where any potential hostiles may be. Just hammer that scan button and you'll be fine. If anything, you'll be even more aware than when we all relied mostly on local like a crutch.
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Spurty
Caldari Amok. Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.03.15 11:49:00 -
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Edited by: Spurty on 15/03/2009 11:50:40 Its going to be lolz if it comes to 0.0
Only ships I'll ever fly again will be Falcons, Rapiers and Pilgrims.
Everyone slamming the directional scan button every 5 seconds is going to make CCP's servers fall to their knees faster than bookmark copying!
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Olixia Castitatis
Gallente Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2009.03.15 11:51:00 -
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Originally by: Schani Kratnorr
The way Unknown systems ae connected to the rest of EVE is likely to cause a lot of enounters that would not otherwise have taken place. For that alone, this patch might be the most interesting in years...
There is simply no way of knowing what will happen...
This.
My corp are all low sec pirates - we found a connection that was 0.3 <-> unknown <-> Catch. So we went through in t2 frigs and flew around a bit, before getting the local Gate Camping crew to come and follow us back through, and we skirmished with them for a while.
This sort of encounter simply wouldn't have happened before wormholes. It was interesting how their tactics were slightly different. Also, they couldn't camp wormholes for ****, and didn't seem willing to change their generic on-gate modus operandi.
I'm kind of interested as to how gang fights will work around wormholes. Because you can jump through them when you have aggression, and, after jumping through, land back within jump range, wont any gangs wanting to engage at a wormhole have to have forces on both sides? -----------------------
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Cors
It's A Trap
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Posted - 2009.03.15 11:52:00 -
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The thing is that WH space and 0.0 are two completely different environments.
In 0.0, you can go from being the only person in local, to seeing a 500 person fleet move through.
In WH space, the most new people you usually see is about 5-10 max. So it's small gang vs small gang.
And personally, we've seen a bunch of covops kills, a few BS kills, and even a Marauder kill.
The poor Marauder had just entered system, warped to a planet, and start chucking out Probes.
Our Covops scanned him out, got us a warp in and my Apoc and a friends Tempest blew him away.
He wasn't paying attention to his directional scanner.
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Jmanis Catharg
Caldari Dusk Blade
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Posted - 2009.03.15 11:58:00 -
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He wasn't paying attention to his directional scanner.
This. That said, I love the delayed local, it doesn't *immediately* give anyone the advantage. Also, I actually feel safer around the sleepers :) ---
Originally by: CCP Mitnal I went to the forums for special powers and all I got was a dancing padlock and a banhammer.
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Arous Drephius
Perkone
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Posted - 2009.03.15 12:37:00 -
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Delayed local = win.
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Gun Gal
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Posted - 2009.03.15 12:48:00 -
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delayed local = win, for everyone, except for those with a faint heart.
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Monkey Saturday
Fear Inc
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Posted - 2009.03.15 12:57:00 -
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Originally by: Olixia Castitatis It's not that different. Instead of putting local in a separate window and checking it on occasion, you put your directional scanner in a different window and check it on occasion.
It makes cloaky ships more interesting, though.
People don't have their scanner up all the time anyways because.....? --------
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Khlitouris RegusII
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Posted - 2009.03.15 12:58:00 -
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It's absolutely Brilliant.
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Nicholas Barker
Black Nova Corp KenZoku
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Posted - 2009.03.15 13:04:00 -
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only cool in wh space, in 0.0 it would suck. ------
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ollobrains2
Gallente New Eve Order Holdings
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Posted - 2009.03.15 13:26:00 -
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most wormholes u might find the odd person at the moment most however are unihbitated esp those with only a 1 link in or out at the time.
That group on the news legion mob we almost got one of their mininng barges off gesh before it closed, shame i wasnt in a eris
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Andrest Disch
Amarr Letiferi Praedones
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Posted - 2009.03.15 13:34:00 -
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Originally by: Del Narveux I think delayed would work fine if there were a bit less people in W-space, which will no doubt happen once the new hotness wears off. As for bringing it to 0.0, it wont happen. Yeah, sometimes BobSwarm gripes about local to do the hard, edgy pirate thing for the crowd but they'd circle the wagons and declare all out forum war if anything threatened the unlimited ISK factory supplying the hard, edgy pirate-ness. 
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2009.03.15 13:56:00 -
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Have someone sit at the wormhole to keep a look out for intruders? And plant a bubble on to delay their entry? And have a bunch of snipers pop them while they try to run off through the bubble?
You see, all you need to do is evaluate the situation and take advantage of it. -------- Ideas for: Mining
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Kappas.
Galaxy Punks
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Posted - 2009.03.15 14:11:00 -
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o/ sid.
Don't think it'd work in low sec/0.0 with the current mechanics, in wspace it's against both the attacker and the defender, as attackers can't readily see what shiptypes are in system if indeed anyone at all and not just ships at a pos, and defenders need to spam the scan button every couple of seconds to see if there is anything there.
Imagine 70% of eve hitting the scan button every couple of seconds... __________________
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ShadowMaiden
Amarr Divine Radiance
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Posted - 2009.03.15 14:12:00 -
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Originally by: Nicholas Barker only cool in wh space, in 0.0 it would suck.
Ok then, you get to keep local as it is now in 0.0, but if you have Sovereignty, you pay for immediate local as an extra charge on top of your of Alliance fees
Sound fair?
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Bio Storm
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Posted - 2009.03.15 15:05:00 -
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the idea of delayed local is simple, pirates will love it, everyone else will hate it
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Nicholas Barker
Black Nova Corp KenZoku
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Posted - 2009.03.15 15:07:00 -
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Edited by: Nicholas Barker on 15/03/2009 15:07:55
Originally by: ShadowMaiden
Originally by: Nicholas Barker only cool in wh space, in 0.0 it would suck.
Ok then, you get to keep local as it is now in 0.0, but if you have Sovereignty, you pay for immediate local as an extra charge on top of your of Alliance fees
Sound fair?
no
edit - do you mean only for the people who paid for it, or everybody?
either way though; no. :( ------
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Santiago Fahahrri
Galactic Geographic
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Posted - 2009.03.15 15:15:00 -
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I love delayed local and I want it in all 0.0 systems. ~ Santiago Fahahrri Galactic Geographic |

TimMc
Gallente The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2009.03.15 15:17:00 -
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I love it and hope it comes to 0.0.
However, I hope there is a POS module that can turn on local for everyone. Therefor sov holders can choose how to operate their space... and the border unclaimed space will be scary.
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Minsc
Gallente A.W.M Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.03.15 15:18:00 -
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Originally by: Bio Storm the idea of delayed local is simple, pirates will love it, everyone else will hate it
I'm not a pirate and I love it.
Honestly though anyone with half a brain wil have a core scanner fitted. Anyone with more than half a brain will have a deep space probe in their cargo. Core scanner + deep space probe = knowing exactly how many ships (and possibly what type are in the syatem at any time). Place the probe right on top of you and set it at a 8.0 au range and you'll know exactly what ships are around you in system if any.
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eFart
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Posted - 2009.03.15 15:32:00 -
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itsa good thang
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Kahega Amielden
Minmatar Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2009.03.15 16:14:00 -
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Quote: Honestly though anyone with half a brain wil have a core scanner fitted. Anyone with more than half a brain will have a deep space probe in their cargo. Core scanner + deep space probe = knowing exactly how many ships (and possibly what type are in the syatem at any time). Place the probe right on top of you and set it at a 8.0 au range and you'll know exactly what ships are around you in system if any.
And anyone with 3/4 of a brain will realize you can't fit deep space probes in core launchers.
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Ruze Ahkor'Murkon
Amarr No Applicable Corporation
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Posted - 2009.03.15 16:25:00 -
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I loved delayed local. I'm not a pirate, so that mentality is gone. Delayed local means that when myself, or my gang, are moving through w-space doing what we do, there's a possibility we'll be interrupted.
You can be paranoid all you want, angry that you have to finally play in a system with other players and not know exactly if you're safe. If that's how you are, stay out of w-space. Heck, stay out of MMO's. They aren't for you.
Me, though ... it's beautiful. There's no counting enemies to make sure you have higher numbers. Nearly every fight is random. Nearly every fight is fair because of that.
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