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Kalhan Amarr Shadow1One	Posted - 2009.03.16 18:33:00 - [1] Has anyone build, bought and flown a T3 Ship yet? and have a ship fit with spec we can see? also a pic of you flying around, ganking with, or mining in your t3 ship would be nice.
Kalhan Amarr Shadow1One	Posted - 2009.03.16 22:24:00 - [2] Even a pic of you ganking a poor t3 ship owner with a kill mail would be nice.... too..
kunniz	Posted - 2009.03.16 23:30:00 - [3] Originally by: Kalhan Even a pic of you ganking a poor t3 ship owner with a kill mail would be nice.... too.. i think the t3 ship owners are going to be quite careful how/if to pvp with it :P
Atius Tirawa Minmatar Destructive Influence KenZoku	Posted - 2009.03.16 23:44:00 - [4] t3 is going to be for mission running for awhile. . .the price is simply too high to justify any kind of pvp for now, and looking at the effort needed to build one. . .they will probably settle into the 300 range. . .which is still too high. -----------
Mystafyre Caldari First Clan Corp FOUNDATI0N	Posted - 2009.03.16 23:51:00 - [5] Edited by: Mystafyre on 16/03/2009 23:52:09 Originally by: Atius Tirawa t3 is going to be for mission running for awhile. . .the price is simply too high to justify any kind of pvp for now, and looking at the effort needed to build one. . .they will probably settle into the 300 range. . .which is still too high. Agree. http://www.ellatha.com/eve/T3-Ships.asp?ship=Tengu&def=12&off=4&elec=4&eng=5∝=4&stat=View This might be hot with AB/hardeners/ and double pith small a-type sb... Throw HG Crystal set to your head and the tank should be like, too much Haven't had time to calculate what that version of Tengu could do, but seriously with that AB bonus and SB bonus it might beat Ishtar as LP farming machine. It might need a target painter to smash the small ones. But the slot layout is just perfect for that duty. 3x rig slots, 5x higs for launchers, 6x meds for tank and ab and 5x lows for 3x BCU and something. Great potential on this one...
Dallenovic Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2009.03.17 02:36:00 - [6] Linkage broken?
Mystafyre Caldari First Clan Corp FOUNDATI0N	Posted - 2009.03.17 05:55:00 - [7] Originally by: Dallenovic Linkage broken? Sadly yeah, but I just realised little tweak on the setup. Subsystems & Bonuses Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node 10% bonus to shield booster effectiveness per level. Tengu Electronics - CPU Efficiency Gate 5% bonus to CPU per level. Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir 5% bonus to capacitor capacity per level. Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay 5% bonus to kinetic missile damage per level 7.5% bonus to Heavy, Heavy Assault and Assault missile launcher rate of fire per level 10% bonus to heavy missile and heavy assault missile velocity per level Tengu Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst 10% bonus to afterburner speed per level. 3x Rig slots 6x Highslots (6x launcher slots) 6x Medslots 4x Lowslots (the earlier post had five, and its possible if you take the subsystem reducing cap recharge, but then you have just 5 high slots with launchers hardpoints) http://www.ellatha.com/eve/T3.asp Check the rest of the base attributes of the ship from that link by choosing the same subsystems. I should calculate the AB cap usage, but it should be enough with Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir since you can use 3 or 2 lowslots for BCU and the last 2 or 1 lowslots for PDU and you still have 3x rig slots where you can add CCC rigs if the cap recharge isnt enough. Basically this is like Cerberus, but with 6 launchers and extra midslot. High base shield thermal and kinetic resistances (like in Ishtar) makes tanking for missions easy. Should be able to tank missions with two or three hardeners. And the signal radius being really small, like in Ishtar, this really can be a dream setup for those who farm LP's from good quality lvl3 agents or even run lvl4 agents with Ishtar. As we know, Ishtar is great to that, but the problem is drones. The drone agro from different spawns is slowing you down and the need of switching between different drones. Using sentry drones is also good, but then the optimal range becomes too important and your dps will mostly be little off from maximal. So I had in my mind that those six med slots would be 2x pith small a-type shield boosters, 3x hardeners and ab. If you go with two hardeners with some missions, then you can add target painter for those missions. Only problem in this is the lack of dronespace. The tank should be over 500 dps with minimal sig radius (cruiser class), speed should be way over 500 ms and dps 500 (HAMs).
Zar Terra MacroIntel United Corporations Against Macros	Posted - 2009.03.17 06:28:00 - [8] That link is an awesome resource. Thanks for sharing !
Liang Nuren No Salvation Blackguard Coalition	Posted - 2009.03.17 07:17:00 - [9] Edited by: Liang Nuren on 17/03/2009 07:18:48 Hmm, interesting. You're light on grid to fit T2 HAMs, but it might work with a PDU or faction HAMs. I was poking at this (your config): Tengu 6x CN HML 1x 10mn AB (55 Grid), 2x Pitii A Type (4 Grid), 2x Hard, CR II 3x CN BCU, PDU Dmg = 25 DPS / 200 Alpha * 1.25 (Kin Dmg) * 1.6 (ROF, [1/(1 - .375)]) * 1.748 (3x CN BCU) * 6 launchers = 524.4 DPS / 4195 Alpha Cap = 1325 * 1.25 * 1.25 * 1.05 / 425s * .8 * .915 = 2173 Cap / 311s = 6.9 Cap/s 6.9 cap/s * 2.4 = 16.5 Peak Regen I may be missing something. But I don't care, because I'm going to bed. All things considered, I think I'd love to fly one. :) -Liang Ed: I neglected rigs because I wasn't sure what I'd put in there. Probably at least one CCC, maybe two. -- Liang Nuren - Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire www.kwikdeath.org
Dallenovic Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2009.03.17 17:43:00 - [10] Originally by: Mystafyre Subsystems & Bonuses Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node 10% bonus to shield booster effectiveness per level. This is awsome, especially if you mix it with crystals and boosters, you can get crazy boosting, add in some shield boost cap usage rigs and your cooking on gas in my eyes. This is the advantage that shield now have, they can reduce cap use and increase repair amount where as armor can only increase amout and decrease time(inc cap) This looking like a healthy dps dealer for a change, but imo t3 needs a bit more of a kick up the ass in terms of damage but nothing major. I was hoping to see a passive shield tanking drone boat somewhere :)

Omara Otawan	Posted - 2009.03.17 17:59:00 - [11] Originally by: Dallenovic This looking like a healthy dps dealer for a change, but imo t3 needs a bit more of a kick up the ass in terms of damage but nothing major. I was hoping to see a passive shield tanking drone boat somewhere :) Huh? They are cruisers afterall, dps is just fine as long as you're not flying the minmatar one
Ms Massacre Amarr	Posted - 2009.03.17 18:00:00 - [12] Hate to derail, but now try to do something useful with the proteus slots are ****. Legion would be pretty sick for sansha/blood missions though.
Titas Agor TITANS OF PEACE	Posted - 2009.03.17 18:37:00 - [13] Edited by: Titas Agor on 17/03/2009 18:41:46 There are T3 ships and parts on test server if you dont wanna wait to see what all the new ships look like, but going from that link posed in this thread... this is what i made quickly with the Tengu T3 ship. Subsystems & Bonuses Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node 10% bonus to shield booster effectiveness per level. Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer 15% bonus to ship sensor strength 5% bonus to targeting range per level. Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir 5% bonus to capacitor capacity per level. Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay 5% bonus to kinetic missile damage per level 7.5% bonus to Heavy, Heavy Assault and Assault missile launcher rate of fire per level 10% bonus to heavy missile and heavy assault missile velocity per level Tengu Propulsion - Gravitational Capacitor 15% bonus to warp speed per level 15% reduction in capacitor need when initiating warp per level 6 high slots 6 medium slots 4 low slots shield resists : 0 / 50 / 70 / 80 3650HP for shield 75k target range Fitting CPU 508 Powergrid 600 Calibration 400 I'll mess around on test server now that all the bonus's are finalized and showing, see if i can find that sweet spot. edit : forgot to add that T3 ships have ship bonus to overheating...
Doktor Quick	Posted - 2009.03.17 18:52:00 - [14] Originally by: Ms Massacre Hate to derail, but now try to do something useful with the proteus slots are ****. Legion would be pretty sick for sansha/blood missions though. I was looking at it too, you're right the slots are kinda fubar, but look at the drone capacity and bandwidth you can get. I don't think this one is going to have any problems in the DPS department, it doesn't have quite the bandwidth of an ishtar, but it has bonuses to damage which I think will give it the edge. Also it's got more generous PG/CPU than the tech 2 cruisers before bonuses so it'll definitely be able to take advantage of it's slots better.
Nugite	Posted - 2009.03.17 19:47:00 - [15] I feel so urged to make a mini-phoon out of the loki. Must...resist...split weapon systems.
Ryoken McKeon Galactic Defence Syndicate Eradication Alliance	Posted - 2009.03.17 20:45:00 - [16] Originally by: Nugite I feel so urged to make a mini-phoon out of the loki. Must...resist...split weapon systems. Give us a mini-phoon set-up for a loki, I'll bet it's pretty sick damage-wise.
Dallenovic Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2009.03.18 00:02:00 - [17] from the mini phoon idea, im not sure how youd do it, considering that heavy assault missiles are better for range than 425s with barrage i thought it'd be better to opt for these as theres no fall off modifier on the mixed one. Just 7.5% to rof per level NICE http://www.ellatha.com/eve/T3-Ships.asp?ship=Loki&def=6&off=10&elec=10&eng=12&prop=10&stat=View Slot layout 6/4/6 with 4 turrets 4 launchers As i said before without any bonii, heavy assault missiles out range 425s and have more dps so i will go for: 4x Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II 2x 425mm Autocannon II (barrage) 1x MWD II 1x Shadow Sep Web 1x Warp Disruptor II 1x Medium Elec Cap Booster /or faction 1x 1600mm Rolled Tungsten 1x Medium Armor Rep 1x Dark Blood Exp Hard 1x Dark Blood Kin Hard 2x Caldari Navy BCU 3x Trimark 461/481 cpu 1725/1875 pg shud put out around 450dps [352 from HAM 102 from 425s] before drones and around 127 from 4 hammerhead II [Max Skills] totalling around 577 dps 14338 armor pre gang 15772 in gang with resists of EM92.5% Ex69.6% Kin74.7% Ther75.6% what u think ?
Dallenovic Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2009.03.18 01:41:00 - [18] Originally by: Mystafyre Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay 5% bonus to kinetic missile damage per level 7.5% bonus to Heavy, Heavy Assault and Assault missile launcher rate of fire per level 10% bonus to heavy missile and heavy assault missile velocity per level I just did a quick calculation, and if you cud manage to fit 3x Caldari Navy BCU's and 6x Heavy Assault Missile Launchers with faction ammo and perfect skills you will be dishing out a whopping 756dps.... at 30km!! I need to train up for HAMS!!
arbiter reformed Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2009.03.18 01:46:00 - [19] yeh but a harbinger can get 900 dps and do that damage to more targets, t3 have been prenerfed just like blackops and marauders. that said however there very viable ships
Lilith Velkor Minmatar DEATH'S LEGION Red Box.	Posted - 2009.03.18 01:49:00 - [20] Originally by: arbiter reformed yeh but a harbinger can get 900 dps and do that damage to more targets, t3 have been prenerfed just like blackops and marauders. that said however there very viable ships Hmm, 900 dps is really pushing the harbinger to the limit, and certainly not achievable in realistic scenarios. And then, I'd give up a bit of dps any day for the added survivability, but thats just me.

Dallenovic Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2009.03.18 02:45:00 - [21] Originally by: arbiter reformed yeh but a harbinger can get 900 dps and do that damage to more targets, t3 have been prenerfed just like blackops and marauders. that said however there very viable ships You get around 850dps max out of a harbinger unless you get crazy implants and some ammo I havn't seen and named drones and with 44k EHP with a good fitting. This is good, but its a BC and the Legion is a crusier, Harb still got t1 resists etc. But the arguament will continue, are they nerfed or is this what they should be like? but is they were to come 1v1 wud be fun
Madcat Adams Amarr Romulan Technologies Limited	Posted - 2009.03.18 08:44:00 - [22] I'd rather enjoy flying this little outfit. http://www.ellatha.com/eve/T3-Ships.asp?ship=Legion&def=8&off=3&elec=3&eng=1&prop=1&stat=View Subsystems & Bonuses Legion Defensive - Nanobot Injector 10% bonus to armor repairer effectiveness per level Legion Electronics - Tactical Targeting Network 15% bonus to scan resolution per level Legion Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir 5% bonus to capacitor capacity per level. Legion Offensive - Liquid Crystal Magnifiers 10% bonus to medium energy turret capacitor use per level 10% bonus to medium energy turret damage per level 10% bonus to medium energy turret optimal range per level Legion Propulsion - Chassis Optimization 5% bonus to max velocity per level. 6 Hi 4 Med 6 Low 3 Rig Fitting CPU 400 Powergrid 1125 Calibration 400 All I can say is all the pulse II's she can carry, with damadge mods. Fast, agile, and very deadly. xD -----
Hirana Yoshida Behavioral Affront	Posted - 2009.03.18 09:14:00 - [23] Theorycrafting is FUN! Keep in mind people that we are still missing two sub-systems and that they may well push T3 through the roof performance wise. They are already able to deal HAC damage and tank like Commandships - more even when factoring in signature and speeds.
Wideen Warped Mining Strip Mining Club	Posted - 2009.03.18 11:40:00 - [24] Here's a Legion I'd like to fly any day of the week: 6 highs 3 mids 7 lows Subsystems & Bonuses Legion Defensive - Nanobot Injector 10% bonus to armor repairer effectiveness per level Legion Electronics - Energy Parasitic Complex 10% bonus to energy vampire and energy neutralizer transfer amount per level. Legion Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix 5% reduction in capacitor recharge rate per level. Legion Offensive - Convergent Beam Focuser 10% bonus to medium energy turret capacitor use per level 10% bonus to medium energy turret damage per level 7.5% bonus to medium energy turret tracking speed per level Legion Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst 10% bonus to afterburner speed per level. Crazy dmg, tank, tracking, cap. Also bonus to cap warfare so it'll be like a mini curse (although only one mod for this but that neut/nos will sure do its job well). Although lacks enough mids to web so a scram II will have to do along with an injector. This is pain in a package ________________________________________ "I robbed a goon and I liked it" - Suas
Glarion Garnier The Scope	Posted - 2009.03.18 13:53:00 - [25] Minnie design. 6 turret, 4 mid, 6 low Subsystems & Bonuses Loki Defensive - Adaptive Augmenter 5% bonus to all armor resistances per level. Loki Electronics - Immobility Drivers 30% bonus to stasis webifier range per level. Loki Engineering - Power Core Multiplier 5% bonus to power output per level. Loki Offensive - Turret Concurrence Registry 10% bonus to medium projectile turret damage per level 10% bonus to medium projectile turret optimal range per level 7.5% bonus to medium projectile turret tracking per level Loki Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst 10% bonus to afterburner speed per level. Quite decently looking ship imo
Exlegion Caldari New Light	Posted - 2009.03.18 14:54:00 - [26] Originally by: Mystafyre ...http://www.ellatha.com/eve/T3.asp... Very nice. Thank you. Added to bookmarks. One of us equals many of us. Disrespect one of us, you'll see plenty of us. - Gang Starr
DaOpa Amarr Static Corp	Posted - 2009.03.18 15:21:00 - [27] Originally by: Exlegion Originally by: Mystafyre ...http://www.ellatha.com/eve/T3.asp... Very nice. Thank you. Added to bookmarks. Your welcome! I'm currently in the process of trying to figure out a way to add in "Fitting" options! stay tuned ---------- LP Store Database \| T3 Ship DB
Kalhan Amarr Shadow1One	Posted - 2009.03.18 15:41:00 - [28] If that is true that noones going to be pvping in these new ships for awhile..... Anyone have a good mining fit for a t3 ship :)
DuttyDan	Posted - 2009.03.18 16:40:00 - [29] check this out for the lolz... concept found via ccp not releasing all the subsystems on sisi http://www.ellatha.com/eve/T3-Ships.asp?ship=Legion&def=9&off=2&elec=2&eng=3&prop=1&stat=View Fitting this : 2x Small Nos t2 2x Medium Unstable 4x Dual 180mm AC's 1x MWD 1x Med Cap Booster (800) 1x Web 1x 24km Point 2x 1600 rt plates 1x DC t2 2x EAN t2 1x Ancil Current Router 2x Trimark Mix of hammerhead II, warrior II, maybe ECM drones... This thing has 30k Armor, with nice resists all around 75%Em 90%exp 80%kin 68%ther get in range nuet and run the nos if u can then just keep range cycling mwd if neeeded unleash drones and barrage Ac's
Stealth Magnate Minmatar Macabre Votum	Posted - 2009.03.18 18:34:00 - [30] just wanted to give props on a great tool!



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