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PaulAtreides	Posted - 2004.08.17 10:54:00 - [1] This word, I find, has absolutly no real meaning. What is "it"? From what I understand it is a concept developed by people in the hopes of making you believe that in a 'different' situation you somehow don't have control over your own life. This in turn supposedly makes you feel gratified with your lot. Your Thoughts. Want to work for me?
PaulAtreides	Posted - 2004.08.17 10:54:00 - [2] This word, I find, has absolutly no real meaning. What is "it"? From what I understand it is a concept developed by people in the hopes of making you believe that in a 'different' situation you somehow don't have control over your own life. This in turn supposedly makes you feel gratified with your lot. Your Thoughts. Want to work for me?
Miso	Posted - 2004.08.17 10:56:00 - [3] I see much flaming and a big lock. -------------------------------------------- Dead
Miso	Posted - 2004.08.17 10:56:00 - [4] I see much flaming and a big lock. -------------------------------------------- Dead
PaulAtreides	Posted - 2004.08.17 10:58:00 - [5] Originally by: Miso I see much flaming and a big lock. It is a theoretical debate. No harm intended. If you feel uncomforatable with the topic feel 'free' to not reply. Want to work for me?
PaulAtreides	Posted - 2004.08.17 10:58:00 - [6] Originally by: Miso I see much flaming and a big lock. It is a theoretical debate. No harm intended. If you feel uncomforatable with the topic feel 'free' to not reply. Want to work for me?
Shade Widow	Posted - 2004.08.17 11:47:00 - [7] Freedom is the ability to do whatever you want. Freedom=Anarchy Hence freedom can not be attained fully otherwise we would all be killing eachother and ext. ---
Shade Widow	Posted - 2004.08.17 11:47:00 - [8] Freedom is the ability to do whatever you want. Freedom=Anarchy Hence freedom can not be attained fully otherwise we would all be killing eachother and ext. ---
Miso	Posted - 2004.08.17 12:10:00 - [9] Originally by: PaulAtreides Originally by: Miso I see much flaming and a big lock. It is a theoretical debate. No harm intended. If you feel uncomforatable with the topic feel 'free' to not reply. Im referring to the fact that such discussions will enivitably involv RL politics, hence the forecast lock. GL with your discussion though... -------------------------------------------- Dead
Miso	Posted - 2004.08.17 12:10:00 - [10] Originally by: PaulAtreides Originally by: Miso I see much flaming and a big lock. It is a theoretical debate. No harm intended. If you feel uncomforatable with the topic feel 'free' to not reply. Im referring to the fact that such discussions will enivitably involv RL politics, hence the forecast lock. GL with your discussion though... -------------------------------------------- Dead
Ebedar	Posted - 2004.08.17 12:15:00 - [11] Freedom! My life in pictures:
Ebedar	Posted - 2004.08.17 12:15:00 - [12] Freedom! My life in pictures:
hired goon	Posted - 2004.08.17 12:18:00 - [13] Edited by: hired goon on 17/08/2004 12:25:01 The freedom that millions of people in World War 2 died for is being spat on by politically correct people who decide I can't call a blackboard a blackboard, because it's racist. ------------ We come in peace. And tanks.
hired goon	Posted - 2004.08.17 12:18:00 - [14] Edited by: hired goon on 17/08/2004 12:25:01 The freedom that millions of people in World War 2 died for is being spat on by politically correct people who decide I can't call a blackboard a blackboard, because it's racist. ------------ We come in peace. And tanks.
DoZ3r	Posted - 2004.08.17 12:22:00 - [15] Originally by: hired goon Freedom and democracy are what the United States is bringing to the people of Iraq. God bless the US of A. Do you really believe that??
DoZ3r	Posted - 2004.08.17 12:22:00 - [16] Originally by: hired goon Freedom and democracy are what the United States is bringing to the people of Iraq. God bless the US of A. Do you really believe that??
hired goon	Posted - 2004.08.17 12:26:00 - [17] I said no such thing! ------------ We come in peace. And tanks.
hired goon	Posted - 2004.08.17 12:26:00 - [18] I said no such thing! ------------ We come in peace. And tanks.
Harry Stoteles	Posted - 2004.08.17 12:53:00 - [19] Freedom is just another word for nothing left to loose. Janis Joplin
Harry Stoteles	Posted - 2004.08.17 12:53:00 - [20] Freedom is just another word for nothing left to loose. Janis Joplin
Rodj Blake	Posted - 2004.08.17 13:04:00 - [21] Edited by: Rodj Blake on 17/08/2004 13:12:07 One quote from memory regarding freedom, originally by (I think) Benjamin Franklin. Quote: Those who are willing to give up some liberty in exchange for security, deserve neither liberty nor security. Since this is a non-political forum, I'll leave it up to you to work out how I believe this fits in with current events. Meanwhile, here's the true meaning of freedom... Freedom, CA (CDP, FIPS 25576) Location: 36.94003 N, 121.78932 W Population (1990): 8361 (2374 housing units) Area: 4.2 sq km (land), 0.0 sq km (water) Zip code(s): 95019 Freedom, IN Zip code(s): 47431 Freedom, ME Zip code(s): 04941 Freedom, NH Zip code(s): 03836 Freedom, NY Zip code(s): 14065 Freedom, OK (town, FIPS 27850) Location: 36.76652 N, 99.11256 W Population (1990): 264 (147 housing units) Area: 0.7 sq km (land), 0.0 sq km (water) Zip code(s): 73842 Freedom, PA (borough, FIPS 27712) Location: 40.68465 N, 80.25336 W Population (1990): 1897 (774 housing units) Area: 1.5 sq km (land), 0.3 sq km (water) Zip code(s): 15042 Freedom, WY Zip code(s): 83120 From these figures, we can conclude that not very many people in the US live in Freedom Dolce et decorum est pro imperator mori
Rodj Blake	Posted - 2004.08.17 13:04:00 - [22] Edited by: Rodj Blake on 17/08/2004 13:12:07 One quote from memory regarding freedom, originally by (I think) Benjamin Franklin. Quote: Those who are willing to give up some liberty in exchange for security, deserve neither liberty nor security. Since this is a non-political forum, I'll leave it up to you to work out how I believe this fits in with current events. Meanwhile, here's the true meaning of freedom... Freedom, CA (CDP, FIPS 25576) Location: 36.94003 N, 121.78932 W Population (1990): 8361 (2374 housing units) Area: 4.2 sq km (land), 0.0 sq km (water) Zip code(s): 95019 Freedom, IN Zip code(s): 47431 Freedom, ME Zip code(s): 04941 Freedom, NH Zip code(s): 03836 Freedom, NY Zip code(s): 14065 Freedom, OK (town, FIPS 27850) Location: 36.76652 N, 99.11256 W Population (1990): 264 (147 housing units) Area: 0.7 sq km (land), 0.0 sq km (water) Zip code(s): 73842 Freedom, PA (borough, FIPS 27712) Location: 40.68465 N, 80.25336 W Population (1990): 1897 (774 housing units) Area: 1.5 sq km (land), 0.3 sq km (water) Zip code(s): 15042 Freedom, WY Zip code(s): 83120 From these figures, we can conclude that not very many people in the US live in Freedom Dolce et decorum est pro imperator mori
hired goon	Posted - 2004.08.17 13:41:00 - [23] lol! excellent ------------ We come in peace. And tanks.
hired goon	Posted - 2004.08.17 13:41:00 - [24] lol! excellent ------------ We come in peace. And tanks.
PaulAtreides	Posted - 2004.08.17 13:57:00 - [25] Originally by: Shade Widow Freedom is the ability to do whatever you want. Freedom=Anarchy Hence freedom can not be attained fully otherwise we would all be killing eachother and ext. Fair enough, but the antithisis would be: How can you not not do whatever you want? Morals and Ethics should not be confused with laws and politics. They are very different. Want to work for me?
PaulAtreides	Posted - 2004.08.17 13:57:00 - [26] Originally by: Shade Widow Freedom is the ability to do whatever you want. Freedom=Anarchy Hence freedom can not be attained fully otherwise we would all be killing eachother and ext. Fair enough, but the antithisis would be: How can you not not do whatever you want? Morals and Ethics should not be confused with laws and politics. They are very different. Want to work for me?
PaulAtreides	Posted - 2004.08.17 14:00:00 - [27] Oh, yeah and please dont mention any countries or politics or religion in this thread. We are free to discuss this here as long as we are contrained within the diameters of the rules of this board ('Freedom' within a box?). Want to work for me?
PaulAtreides	Posted - 2004.08.17 14:00:00 - [28] Oh, yeah and please dont mention any countries or politics or religion in this thread. We are free to discuss this here as long as we are contrained within the diameters of the rules of this board ('Freedom' within a box?). Want to work for me?
Miso	Posted - 2004.08.17 14:36:00 - [29] Wow, I must be psychic or something -------------------------------------------- Dead
Miso	Posted - 2004.08.17 14:36:00 - [30] Wow, I must be psychic or something -------------------------------------------- Dead

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