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Ariel Devina
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Posted - 2009.03.19 07:30:00 -
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Like the title says as in, is there one aspect of eve that is operating at %100 norm?
cause right now theres redonculous bugs in everything from sound to graphics, skills, markets etc etc?
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zibelthurdos
Concrete Developments
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Posted - 2009.03.19 07:36:00 -
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chat works.
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Ralle030583
Eve Service Corp
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Posted - 2009.03.19 07:38:00 -
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 Originally by: Ariel Devina
Like the title says as in, is there one aspect of eve that is operating at %100 norm?
cause right now theres redonculous bugs in everything from sound to graphics, skills, markets etc etc?
STRG-Q is working
oh and IBTL
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Ariel Devina
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Posted - 2009.03.19 07:42:00 -
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Originally by: zibelthurdos
chat works.
actually chat does not work properly, often text becomes overlaid over other text, which is a bug, so not working %100 :D
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Ranik Sandaris
Caldari
The Centurions
Eternus Imperium Alliance
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Posted - 2009.03.19 07:43:00 -
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Whiners.
They seem to work just fine.....
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Xunlao Blackthorne
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Posted - 2009.03.19 07:46:00 -
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Situation normal... Move along...
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DerArt1st
DEFCON.
Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2009.03.19 07:47:00 -
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Check out my thread, this sums it up pretty clearly. This game is full of bugs and ccp thinks that new features are more important then a working product. Sad but true.
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1027964
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Ron Bacardi
SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2009.03.19 07:49:00 -
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Forums work.....unfortunately
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Ariel Devina
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Posted - 2009.03.19 07:51:00 -
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This is the point im trying to make, enough is enough, we all love shiny new things, but every time we get them, more and more stuff gets broken and they dont get fixed!.
We need to stand up and demand they work on bugs! not new content, there going to loose more players from too many bugs, then there gonan get from new content!.
Come one people this isnt a whine, i love this game like everyone else, but man, it is seriously buggy.
Please show me something that doesnt have bugs in it, im serious!
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Butzewutze
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Posted - 2009.03.19 07:57:00 -
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Best thing is that some of the bugs in Apocrypha had been reported before release but they are still in the actual client.
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Aurican Tetro
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.03.19 08:00:00 -
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Edited by: Aurican Tetro on 19/03/2009 08:01:54
Edited by: Aurican Tetro on 19/03/2009 08:01:17
Ambulation.
And I can "Quit Game."
http://www.eve-gfx.com/ |
Doomed Predator
The Graduates
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.03.19 08:14:00 -
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Whiners seems to be operating at 110% efficiency, but that's always the case tbh.
The 'Fendahlian Collective' strikes again |
Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2009.03.19 08:17:00 -
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Sub cancellation still works, being the 'only part of the game that works' you should go use it.
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Ariel Devina
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Posted - 2009.03.19 08:19:00 -
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whatever, just accept that your paying for a game full of bugs, you know its ok to stand up for yourselves right ? its not hard.
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Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2009.03.19 08:23:00 -
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Originally by: Ariel Devina
whatever, just accept that your paying for a game full of bugs, you know its ok to stand up for yourselves right ? its not hard.
No, posting about it on a forum isn't hard. Doing something effective, like taking your business elsewhere, unfortunately appears to be quite hard.
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Ariel Devina
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Posted - 2009.03.19 08:26:00 -
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Originally by: Crumplecorn
Originally by: Ariel Devina
whatever, just accept that your paying for a game full of bugs, you know its ok to stand up for yourselves right ? its not hard.
No, posting about it on a forum isn't hard. Doing something effective, like taking your business elsewhere, unfortunately appears to be quite hard.
why would i take my buisness elsewhere ? I love eve played for 3 years now, i have alot invested in it and i continue to enjoy it, but i dont enjoy the increasing lvl of bugs and issues that are constantly overlooked.
now if your not going to provide anything constructive to this thread please stop picking on me
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Butzewutze
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Posted - 2009.03.19 08:27:00 -
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You should thank all that fanboys here. A better way to show new customers what eve is about doesnt exist. Keep bugthreads on top 4tw!
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Xano Heroma
Minmatar
Republic University
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Posted - 2009.03.19 08:32:00 -
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get used to it miss !
their will always be bugs in online games !
but I generally think that CCP do a good job. |
Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2009.03.19 08:33:00 -
[19]
Originally by: Ariel Devina
constructive
You mean like a thread that asserts that nothing works in a game that has over 20000 people playing it right now?
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Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.03.19 08:33:00 -
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Originally by: Ariel Devina
whatever, just accept that your paying for a game full of bugs, you know its ok to stand up for yourselves right ? its not hard.
Yeah? Well every game regardless of how its played or what demographic it appeals to has bugs. Atm we are suffering the normal crappy buggy after effects of the largest expansion in eves history as it translates from a totally controlled test enviroment onto the god awfully different pcs that populate the planet with god knows what installed and running at the same time as eve so just be amazed that they can pull it off at all. I think one of the reasons I rarely ever have any issues with eve or any game is that I keep my pc clean and free of taskbars that look like this.
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Belmarduk
Amarr
M.A.R.S. Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.03.19 08:35:00 -
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Give CCP some slack.
This has been a big expansion.
I too arent thrilled about certain things yet (pos/warp-graphics/sounds etc)but they are working on it.
Greetings Belmarduk
Mainchar:
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Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2009.03.19 08:37:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba
I think one of the reasons I rarely ever have any issues with eve or any game is that I keep my pc clean and free of taskbars that look like this.
No, my system tray is at least as bad as that, but I rarely have any issues with EVE either.
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N.
Dara Cothrom
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Posted - 2009.03.19 09:25:00 -
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Originally by: Ariel Devina
Like the title says as in, is there one aspect of eve that is operating at %100 norm?
cause right now theres redonculous bugs in everything from sound to graphics, skills, markets etc etc?
If it's any comfort to you, I haven't experienced any issues.
Hope that helps!
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr
Clinical Experiment
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Posted - 2009.03.19 09:27:00 -
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Well...ships still explode 
My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit. |
Xano Heroma
Minmatar
Republic University
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Posted - 2009.03.19 09:38:00 -
[25]
Originally by: Sheriff Jones
Well...ships still explode
that's one of the bugs.... right ??  |
Lady Spank
Amarr
Sekret Kool Klubb
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Posted - 2009.03.19 10:41:00 -
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I agree this game is completely broken and impossible to play. I have no idea how 250m isks managed to pad out my wallet from last nights fighting with such a buggy broken game.
Consider thinking out a balanced and better thought out thread before typing.
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XJennieX
Minmatar
Children of Gjallarhorn
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Posted - 2009.03.19 10:46:00 -
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Originally by: Crumplecorn
Sub cancellation still works, being the 'only part of the game that works' you should go use it.
you seem to be in every thread saying, oh no. there is nothing wrong with eve right now. well there is. so why dont you go and **** yourself or something more productive than denying existing problems in game.
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Ak'athra J'ador
Amarr
Can't Decide
Balance of Judgment
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Posted - 2009.03.19 10:58:00 -
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Originally by: DerArt1st
Check out my thread, this sums it up pretty clearly. This game is full of bugs and ccp thinks that new features are more important then a working product. Sad but true.
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1027964
you aren't to bright are you? have you ever played an MMO before?
all games have bugs. all games will always have bugs. it is not possible to get rid of all the bugs. some of the companies resources are used to eliminate bugs but if one would use all resources to eliminate bugs two things would happen. bugs would still be there. everyone would stop playing cause the game would become boring.
now next time when you say new features are less important then fixing bugs think about all the new subscribers new features bring and think about all the manpower CCP will be able to hire with those additional subscriptions.
bugs will be solved faster that way.
but remember, new features will also bring new bugs, so there will always be bugs. no freaking way around it. MMOs without bugs do not exist. never have, and never will.
so stop your bloody whining, and make an alt. your subscription can help CCP 
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Ajit Tilak
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Posted - 2009.03.19 11:08:00 -
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Want to make them make sure EVE is less buggy, the solution is actually really simple. Go play Darkfall for a day and come back to EVE, all the bugs fixed, game runs perfect.
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IR Believe
Caldari
TrollSwaRm
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Posted - 2009.03.19 11:13:00 -
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Edited by: IR Believe on 19/03/2009 11:13:13
Dude Everything works really well better than ever. Whats the problem?
Have you tried turning on the r****d compatible controls ?
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Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2009.03.19 11:14:00 -
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Originally by: XJennieX
Originally by: Crumplecorn
Sub cancellation still works, being the 'only part of the game that works' you should go use it.
you seem to be in every thread saying, oh no. there is nothing wrong with eve right now. well there is. so why dont you go and **** yourself or something more productive than denying existing problems in game.
Point out one place where I said nothing is wrong.
Dumbass.
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WAuter
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.03.19 11:16:00 -
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What do you mean?
Everything works fine here..except for some graphic glitches here and there..but that's like the least of my concerns.
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Fi Vantage
Minmatar
New Ligion
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Posted - 2009.03.19 11:20:00 -
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Edited by: Fi Vantage on 19/03/2009 11:21:47
I wish catchphrases like "Stand up for yourself!" and "enough is enough!" never existed. They annoy me.
But on subject: This is the Internet. Bugs exist everywhere here, but you still need to create new content while the bugs are being fixed.
What would be the purpose of coming here if no new content was ever created? Would you read these forums if nobody ever posted on them again?
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DerArt1st
DEFCON.
Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2009.03.19 11:37:00 -
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Edited by: DerArt1st on 19/03/2009 11:43:13
Originally by: Ak'athra J'ador
stuff
I know all about bugs and this isnt the first mmo i played. But i have to say that i played some emulations that had less bugs than this game here, and guess what... that emulations got programmed by students, unemployed people and so on... just as an hobby.
You are talking about new features and about how awesome they are, how many new customers CCP will get from them and so on. But sorry... i think different. It doesnt look very professional if u add new features that have bugs when the old features just work like crap. Not to mention that some of that bugs have allready been reported before release but are still in the game. It doesnt look good if new players get into the game and do hear "yeah, this is a bug, this too... yeah, old bug... in the game since 3 years". If u think this is awesome, fine, i dont think so.
Check out my link, its not a rant. I just showed how EVE is looking ingame and how it "feels" so new players can get a better picture of what eve is about.
And btw. i dont need an alt to hide myself behind.
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Ranger 1
Amarr
Dynaverse Corporation
Vertigo Coalition
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Posted - 2009.03.19 13:25:00 -
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Edited by: Ranger 1 on 19/03/2009 13:27:41
Of course people are going to discuss bugs they are experiencing and there is nothing wrong with that, as long as they realize that just because they are experiencing a problem it does not automatically mean that "everyone" is experiencing problems.
These forums tend to consolidate issues and problems, often making issues look far more widespread than they are. I am in contact with hundreds of different people in game every day, and literally thousands of people since this expansion went live. Remarkably few people out of that cross section are experiencing any major issues, less in fact than any large expansion I have since the game went live.
The problems that have been coming up have boiled down to 3 basic ones.
1: Desync. Yep, as this new code hits the main population people have hit lag and desync issues. This happens every patch, is pretty understandable, and is already getting better. Anyone who has played for a while knows this issue will be resolved over the next couple of weeks, and is in fact already smoothing out in most areas.
2: Skill Que. It has been buggy for a few (very few) folks that I have spoken with. The work around is very simple and should not take long to hammer out either. For most it seems to already be working without issue.
3: Probing. Frankly, the only problems I see people discussing have turned out to be user error as people try to wrap their heads around the new scanning mechanics. I'm not saying that under certain circumstances bugs in the system don't exist, but it doesn't appear to be affecting anyone I'm in contact with (and most folks are using the scanning system pretty heavily right now). It could use some fine tuning, but that is a different issue.
I do wish the expansion could have been out for a couple of weeks before the boxed set hit the shelves, and we might lose a few newcomers here and there, but this release really hasn't been all that bad. In a couple of weeks the forum threads will all concern balancing debates or trolling again as normal.
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Pan Crastus
Anti-Metagaming League
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Posted - 2009.03.19 13:38:00 -
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Originally by: Ariel Devina
Like the title says as in, is there one aspect of eve that is operating at %100 norm?
cause right now theres redonculous bugs in everything from sound to graphics, skills, markets etc etc?
blobbing works. bring 2x the fleet size of your enemy and you will win.
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Korizan
Oort Cloud Industries
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Posted - 2009.03.19 13:40:00 -
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I haven't noticed anything in particular that isn't working right.
OF course you gave no specific bugs that I could even double check and see if I am seeing the same Issue.
CCP has a canned response to these types of threads.
Of course they too will ask for A LOT more info then graphics, sounds, skills, and markets not working.
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Bethulsunamen
Viziam
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Posted - 2009.03.19 14:05:00 -
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Originally by: Ariel Devina
Originally by: zibelthurdos
chat works.
actually chat does not work properly, often text becomes overlaid over other text, which is a bug, so not working %100 :D
Not for me... The only probs i have are:
1. Wormhole warp gfx fades in/out too late/soon
2. Sound muffling is the work of the devil, shoot whoever came up with that idea. I WANT PEW PEWS AND BOOMS IN COMBAT!!
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Valrandir
Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2009.03.19 14:08:00 -
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Originally by: Ariel Devina
Like the title says as in, is there one aspect of eve that is operating at %100 norm?
cause right now theres redonculous bugs in everything from sound to graphics, skills, markets etc etc?
Pretty much everything works.
But, maybe you are broken?
This has surpassed the Yarrdware specification and has been dubbed Uberware. |
Mashie Saldana
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams
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Posted - 2009.03.19 14:37:00 -
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I'm sure the contracts work, you can test it by contracting your stuffÖ to me. 
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Gariuys
Evil Strangers Inc.
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Posted - 2009.03.19 14:41:00 -
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Originally by: DerArt1st
Edited by: DerArt1st on 19/03/2009 11:43:13
Originally by: Ak'athra J'ador
stuff
I know all about bugs and this isnt the first mmo i played. But i have to say that i played some emulations that had less bugs than this game here, and guess what... that emulations got programmed by students, unemployed people and so on... just as an hobby.
You are talking about new features and about how awesome they are, how many new customers CCP will get from them and so on. But sorry... i think different. It doesnt look very professional if u add new features that have bugs when the old features just work like crap. Not to mention that some of that bugs have allready been reported before release but are still in the game. It doesnt look good if new players get into the game and do hear "yeah, this is a bug, this too... yeah, old bug... in the game since 3 years". If u think this is awesome, fine, i dont think so.
Check out my link, its not a rant. I just showed how EVE is looking ingame and how it "feels" so new players can get a better picture of what eve is about.
And btw. i dont need an alt to hide myself behind.
Ehm, you do realise there is a tad little difference between a emulator... and the most complex MMO in existence today right?
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Ginako
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Posted - 2009.03.19 15:24:00 -
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Originally by: IR Believe
Edited by: IR Believe on 19/03/2009 11:13:13
Dude Everything works really well better than ever. Whats the problem?
Have you tried turning on the r****d compatible controls ?
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Ruze Ahkor'Murkon
Amarr
No Applicable Corporation
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Posted - 2009.03.19 15:37:00 -
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It's all a matter of perspective. Bugs are part of MMO's. Any game that appeals to thousands of varying individuals who use hundreds if not thousands of ways to connect to that game? You get 'bugs' in the servers, bugs on the players computer because he won't stop downloading cheap pron, even bugs in the hardware and software between him and the servers. From sub-56k connections to military landlines. From machines still running windows 98 to the top end gaming systems. From users who don't know what a 'folder' is to users who program their own games for a living. From 20,000 users online, to millions.
Heheheh ... if you've ever played a game run by Sony Online Entertainment, or one made by FunCom?
Yes, EvE has bugs. But I ask you to do better. Produce that little student emulator and then distribute it across seven continents and 400,000 subscribers, with the breadth and scope that is EvE. You won't be without bugs. There'll even be bugs you have absolutely NO POSSIBLE CONTROL OVER, that you will be blamed for, because users don't know the difference between graphics card lag and server lag. Or they *think* they do.
But I dare you to give me a game on the market that works better. Even a game with as simple a coding structure as World of Warcraft (and lets face it, it was emulated in under a year ... that's about as simple as you get in online gaming), has bugs. ESPECIALLY after their major expansions. The crying on their boards is monumental!
The point? If you want to get in a huff, by all means. But don't be so hurt when other players who HAVE experienced other games on the market, who KNOW what EvE is in comparison, blatantly laugh in your face and call you a tool.
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Sirani
Caldari
The Graduates
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.03.19 15:45:00 -
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Originally by: Crumplecorn
Originally by: Ariel Devina
whatever, just accept that your paying for a game full of bugs, you know its ok to stand up for yourselves right ? its not hard.
No, posting about it on a forum isn't hard. Doing something effective, like taking your business elsewhere, unfortunately appears to be quite hard.
it is quite hard when there is nothing else like it.
roll on Jumpgate Evolution.
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LeeBaak
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Posted - 2009.03.19 15:51:00 -
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1) Update your drivers.
2) Upgrade your PC.
3) Repeat.
LB
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Lt Mooncat
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Posted - 2009.03.19 16:07:00 -
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If you are unhappy with the service it is best to make a post in the Apocrypha feedback section and just cancel subs for a few weeks. A whiney post has no effect on CCP but cancelling an account (and giving a reason) for just a few weeks or even a few days is a better way to let them know you are unhappy. |
Traidor Disloyal
Minmatar
Private Nuisance
Band of Bastards.
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Posted - 2009.03.19 16:14:00 -
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Originally by: Ariel Devina
Like the title says as in, is there one aspect of eve that is operating at %100 norm?
cause right now theres redonculous bugs in everything from sound to graphics, skills, markets etc etc?
Instead of *****ing on the forums, and since you say you love the game, why don't you go and report the bugs you find on the appropriate forum and save us all your *****ing? You cool with that?
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr
Clinical Experiment
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Posted - 2009.03.19 16:21:00 -
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You all are mising the point;
EVE isn't supposed to work properly, it's supposed to work probably!
My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit. |
baltec1
Antares Shipyards
Hoodlums Associates
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Posted - 2009.03.19 16:42:00 -
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Everything is working fine for me.
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Faife
Federation of Freedom Fighters
Aggression.
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Posted - 2009.03.19 16:48:00 -
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this game might be too hard for you tbh... Warhammer Online is quite popular, you should look into it.
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Lisento Slaven
The Drekla Consortium
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Posted - 2009.03.19 16:50:00 -
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Everything works........as intended...
Hint hint...
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Put in space whales!
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Kassidus
Gallente
Hidden Agenda
Deep Space Engineering
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Posted - 2009.03.19 17:11:00 -
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For those of you claiming you havent experienced any bugs your, either lying or ******ed.
I worked as a game tester for EA for 3 years, I was paid to find bugs, and the OP has a point there are very few if any parts of this
game that dont have bugs.
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Ydyp Ieva
Caldari
Amarrian Retribution
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Posted - 2009.03.19 17:28:00 -
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Someone tells the OP that eve is dying
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Matroshka
MEK Enterprises
Mjolnir Alliance
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Posted - 2009.03.19 17:28:00 -
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I really haven't noticed many serious bugs and ones I have noticed are easily remedied. For example, to fix the overlaid text in chat windows, you only need to refresh the window by clicking the chat window tab. To me, that isn't game breaking or anything to get worked up over.
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Xps Dana
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Posted - 2009.03.19 18:02:00 -
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Originally by: Ron Bacardi
Forums work.....unfortunately
This
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Roemy Schneider
BINFORD
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Posted - 2009.03.19 18:07:00 -
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it's the small things... fitting manager/browser works. i believe 100%. even the linking of a fitting in chat/bio/whatev'
the rest is bugged to ~75% functinality.
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Gunnanmon
Gallente
UNITED STAR SYNDICATE
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Posted - 2009.03.19 18:35:00 -
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The chat interface works well. Not sure if there's anything else to Eve.
As for the forums, the spell-checker is a shambles.
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Jarna
Amarr
Eve University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2009.03.19 19:41:00 -
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Originally by: Crumplecorn
Originally by: Ariel Devina
constructive
You mean like a thread that asserts that nothing works in a game that has over 20000 people playing it right now?
I think that means nothing.
WoW has over 11 million players and way less noticeable bugs than EVE.
I love EVE too, but I believe Blizzard is better at addressing issues instead of shrugging them off as features so they can disregard them to make new content.
His point isn't the game sucks, but that CCP needs to fix what is broken before thigns get so out of hand that they can never all be fixed, ever.
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JSquared
Quantum Warfare Research and Development
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Posted - 2009.03.19 20:11:00 -
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The billing system has never failed to take the correct funds from my credit card each month for the last five years.
Does that count? =P
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N.
Dara Cothrom
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Posted - 2009.03.19 20:16:00 -
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Originally by: Jarna
Originally by: Crumplecorn
Originally by: Ariel Devina
constructive
You mean like a thread that asserts that nothing works in a game that has over 20000 people playing it right now?
I think that means nothing.
WoW has over 11 million players and way less noticeable bugs than EVE.
I love EVE too, but I believe Blizzard is better at addressing issues instead of shrugging them off as features so they can disregard them to make new content.
His point isn't the game sucks, but that CCP needs to fix what is broken before thigns get so out of hand that they can never all be fixed, ever.
I'd hazard a guess that WoW is rather less complex than EvE in many respects.
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Ruze Ahkor'Murkon
Amarr
No Applicable Corporation
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Posted - 2009.03.19 20:40:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Jarna
Originally by: Crumplecorn
Originally by: Ariel Devina
constructive
You mean like a thread that asserts that nothing works in a game that has over 20000 people playing it right now?
I think that means nothing.
WoW has over 11 million players and way less noticeable bugs than EVE.
I love EVE too, but I believe Blizzard is better at addressing issues instead of shrugging them off as features so they can disregard them to make new content.
His point isn't the game sucks, but that CCP needs to fix what is broken before thigns get so out of hand that they can never all be fixed, ever.
I'd hazard a guess that WoW is rather less complex than EvE in many respects.
I would LOVE to see a bunch of college dropouts put out an emulation of EvE so that they could run unnofficial servers.
WoW had them in less than a year after the game was released. I think this more or less speaks for the difference in code between the two, myself.
Originally by: 5pinDizzy
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Usagi Tsukino
Aperture Harmonics
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Posted - 2009.03.19 20:43:00 -
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Edited by: Usagi Tsukino on 19/03/2009 20:45:31
EVE has never played more smoothly for me than it has now. The fact that they added the 'optimize' for the video has made it so my old machine can run the new graphics engine flawlessly, I got in and out of Jita with very little delay the other day and I haven't experienced any lags when firing or doing anything else in the game since the patch.
Hate to quote a meme, but maybe you're doing it wrong.
edit: I will say that sometimes trying to move the probes around in the scanner window is a PITA, but I started EVE in 2004 and have been active most of that time and this, right now, is the best the game has ever been and ever ran.
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Jarna
Amarr
Eve University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2009.03.20 18:53:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Jarna
Originally by: Crumplecorn
Originally by: Ariel Devina
constructive
You mean like a thread that asserts that nothing works in a game that has over 20000 people playing it right now?
I think that means nothing.
WoW has over 11 million players and way less noticeable bugs than EVE.
I love EVE too, but I believe Blizzard is better at addressing issues instead of shrugging them off as features so they can disregard them to make new content.
His point isn't the game sucks, but that CCP needs to fix what is broken before thigns get so out of hand that they can never all be fixed, ever.
I'd hazard a guess that WoW is rather less complex than EvE in many respects.
You are probably right that it is more complex, but the point is CCP fails to address their "features" in a timely manner so much so that the bugs are piling up so high that one day it will become unmanageable and the game will never be rightly "fixed".
As I said in another post yesterday, if CCP would take a year off from making new content (since they already have 50 bazillion expansions, more than most MMO's) they could take that year and fix all the bugs and be one of the most awesome, almost flawless games in existence. Instead, they pump tons of time into Expansions, creating more bugs that they are too slow to address, thereby making the overall game harder to fix.
If they would make things the way they should work instead of sloughing everything off as "features" to keep us from "whining" about them, this game could be way better than it already is.
Don't get me wrong, I love EVE, but I can also see how CCP is overall lazy in addressing Quality issues in the long run.
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FreddyMac
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Posted - 2009.03.20 20:11:00 -
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Except for STILL failing to understand that the devs that squash bugs arent usually the same devs that make new content. You dont stop new content because of bugs. You have different teams working on different stuff, thereby fixing bugs WHILE making new content. Freezing your codebase is usually only done in an emergency.
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Slapchop Gonnalovemynuts
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Posted - 2009.03.20 20:17:00 -
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Killing interlopers in our w-system is working just fine...
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Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.03.20 20:35:00 -
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Originally by: Ruze Ahkor'Murkon
I would LOVE to see a bunch of college dropouts put out an emulation of EvE so that they could run unnofficial servers.
WoW had them in less than a year after the game was released. I think this more or less speaks for the difference in code between the two, myself.
Wow is also perfectly able to run off a single server in some guys basement so him and his buddies can run around in epic gear with dongs as swords where otoh an eve server side install would require an organized takeover of the universitys server room.
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Jarna
Amarr
Eve University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2009.03.20 20:36:00 -
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Originally by: FreddyMac
Except for STILL failing to understand that the devs that squash bugs arent usually the same devs that make new content. You dont stop new content because of bugs. You have different teams working on different stuff, thereby fixing bugs WHILE making new content. Freezing your codebase is usually only done in an emergency.
I don't fail to understand that.
Nevertheless, it seems the bug team must be a meager two programmers then.
You seriously don't think the amount of problems EVE suffers from couldn't be called an emergency? Certain people may notice certain things based on their skills, but you add those all up and EVE is hugely buggy in an overall sense.
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Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.03.20 20:51:00 -
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Originally by: Jarna
I don't fail to understand that.
Nevertheless, it seems the bug team must be a meager two programmers then.
You seriously don't think the amount of problems EVE suffers from couldn't be called an emergency? Certain people may notice certain things based on their skills, but you add those all up and EVE is hugely buggy in an overall sense.
This is probably the typical inhouse size of the average game companys Q&A department. Notice all the similar if not identical computers that have nothing installed and running in the background and are meticulously up to date with drivers and are kept free of viruses and such. Now after vigorous testing on those computers squashes all the obvious bugs it gets transferred to the test server where the mix of computers gets a bit moar complicated with god knows what the userbase has installed both hardware and software wise. Again though this is a compariatively small number of players who generally tend to have well cared for systems. Then the bugs and compatibility issues that couldn't be found on clean test machines are squashed again. Time passes and a solid build is made then the descision to release goes out and all development freezes.
Now comes the fun part.
They get to release it to an installed userbase that covers all this territory with even God walking away from the pits of darkness some people call a working computer.(notice that these abominations always seem to have forum access)
I'm suprised CCP or any game company can pull it off.
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BuddyKnife
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Posted - 2009.03.20 21:47:00 -
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I see that CCP has failed to nerf the WAAAAAAAAmbulance.
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eFart
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Posted - 2009.03.20 22:24:00 -
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Ruze Ahkor'Murkon
Amarr
No Applicable Corporation
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Posted - 2009.03.20 22:29:00 -
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Originally by: Jarna
Originally by: FreddyMac
Except for STILL failing to understand that the devs that squash bugs arent usually the same devs that make new content. You dont stop new content because of bugs. You have different teams working on different stuff, thereby fixing bugs WHILE making new content. Freezing your codebase is usually only done in an emergency.
I don't fail to understand that.
Nevertheless, it seems the bug team must be a meager two programmers then.
You seriously don't think the amount of problems EVE suffers from couldn't be called an emergency? Certain people may notice certain things based on their skills, but you add those all up and EVE is hugely buggy in an overall sense.
I was watching some of the Ambulation videos from the last fanfest, and Eris made mention of how CCP had significantly expanded their QA department and added a lot of new personnel there.
This leads me to believe that not only were they lacking in QA before, but they realized it and decided to make a change. Sometimes companies take a while for 'concept' to meet 'application'.
But it seems that they ARE working in the right direction. This last expansion was a breeze compared to some of the smaller one's before it (as shameful as that is meant to admit).
Though still, CCP's doing better than SOE or FunCOM, in my book. Neither of those companies can produce a semi-solid product for ****.
Originally by: 5pinDizzy
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rValdez5987
Amarr
PROGENITOR CORPORATION
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Posted - 2009.03.20 22:34:00 -
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Originally by: Ariel Devina
Like the title says as in, is there one aspect of eve that is operating at %100 norm?
cause right now theres redonculous bugs in everything from sound to graphics, skills, markets etc etc?
I havent been having any issues. perhaps you can tell me what your doing wrong?
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