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Ronen Osden Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2009.03.22 23:06:00 - [1] Ok, Im postivite Yall are also a little peeved that most of the ships in EVE are not symetrical... Like the Kestrel.....so Lop-sided...Yet the drake is very symetrical... Also Whats with all the UGLY ships...Like srsly Raven looks like a flat faced pug or something...EW?! Vent your anger about un-symetrical ships HERE!!!
Bonhomme Carnaval	Posted - 2009.03.22 23:13:00 - [2] My Geddon bends to the right. Of course, the most important thing to notice in this discussion is that here on the forums, there's really no way of telling when you've stopped reading someone's post and started the sig.
Benco97 Gallente	Posted - 2009.03.22 23:14:00 - [3] Ships which are deliberately asymmetrical don't bother me, Ships which are supposed to be symmetrical yet have MODEL ERRORS make me lose my mind. Originally by: P'uck You're a DUMBASS - bold italic underline at the VERY LEAST.
Asestorian Neckbeards International	Posted - 2009.03.22 23:26:00 - [4] Originally by: Ronen Osden Ok, Im postivite Yall are also a little peeved that most of the ships in EVE are not symetrical... No, not really. --- Originally by: CCP Atropos Destiny Balls
Zarya Hakkonen Hakkonen Enterprises	Posted - 2009.03.22 23:28:00 - [5] I think the Kestrel is one of the better-looking frigates, personally. Miles better than the flying tumor that is the Imicus, anyway. The Drake, IMO, is fairly boring to look at. The Raven is perfect as-is; make it symmetrical and it loses a lot of its visual interest, as well as the prevailing Caldari aesthetic. Winter is my season; midnight, my hour; silence, my anthem.
Sidus Isaacs Gallente	Posted - 2009.03.22 23:41:00 - [6] Raven kinda looks a bit stupid imo. Some poor design choises made on it, like the huge air outlet on the back?, the wierd ****pit thigy on the front? Makes no sense :P
Sirani Caldari The Graduates Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2009.03.23 00:00:00 - [7] biggest problem with the raven is the textures on it are too low resolution, it looks terrible if you zoom in on it just a little -------------------
Taipan Leviathan Dark Star Confederation Magnum Opus.	Posted - 2009.03.23 00:02:00 - [8] Originally by: Sidus Isaacs Raven kinda looks a bit stupid imo. Some poor design choises made on it, like the huge air outlet on the back?, the wierd **pit thigy on the front? Makes no sense :P Tempest has wingy bits and **pit that extends 500 meters in front of the ship for no apperent reason besides being shot off.
Tahlma Amarr	Posted - 2009.03.23 00:05:00 - [9] Caldari ships are supposed to flaunt the ideas of conventional beauty. It reflects the spartan attitude of the race as a whole. What do you want, pink ships like the Gallente?
Tahlma Amarr	Posted - 2009.03.23 00:07:00 - [10] Originally by: Taipan Leviathan Originally by: Sidus Isaacs Raven kinda looks a bit stupid imo. Some poor design choises made on it, like the huge air outlet on the back?, the wierd **pit thigy on the front? Makes no sense :P Tempest has wingy bits and **pit that extends 500 meters in front of the ship for no apperent reason besides being shot off. Hey, hush up slave. Minmatar have to coolest looking ships in the game and the tempest is the coolest of the cool!

TimMc Gallente The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2009.03.23 00:18:00 - [11] Originally by: Tahlma Caldari ships are supposed to flaunt the ideas of conventional beauty. It reflects the spartan attitude of the race as a whole. What do you want, pink ships like the Gallente? Hey we are very happy with your lovely pink ships and would hate to have ships that looks industrial and gunmetal.
Sidus Isaacs Gallente	Posted - 2009.03.23 00:20:00 - [12] Originally by: Tahlma Caldari ships are supposed to flaunt the ideas of conventional beauty. It reflects the spartan attitude of the race as a whole. What do you want, pink ships like the Gallente? Ships that at least makes an effort to seem effective, having an extended ****pit like that does not count. The Drake on the ohter hand looks effecive.
Nevenda'ar	Posted - 2009.03.23 00:42:00 - [13] Personally I want more vertical ships models. The myrmidon is almost perfect, but i feel it should have been a bit longer and thinner then it is now. A homeworld style space banana would be especially appreciated.
Mikeli Soth Gallente The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.	Posted - 2009.03.23 01:00:00 - [14] Originally by: Nevenda'ar Personally I want more vertical ships models. The myrmidon is almost perfect, but i feel it should have been a bit longer and thinner then it is now. A homeworld style space banana would be especially appreciated. bah, it looks good. Kinda like one of them Minbari ships. Hmmm, bet that's where they got the idea for the Myrmidon from.
Johann Callasan Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2009.03.23 02:13:00 - [15] Originally by: TimMc Originally by: Tahlma Caldari ships are supposed to flaunt the ideas of conventional beauty. It reflects the spartan attitude of the race as a whole. What do you want, pink ships like the Gallente? Hey we are very happy with your lovely pink ships and would hate to have ships that looks industrial and gunmetal. Considering that Gallente are supposed to be of French origin, the thought that their ships are pink, frilly and TOTALLY girly seems somehow....fitting :)
Cade Morrigan Caldari	Posted - 2009.03.23 02:18:00 - [16] Originally by: Ronen Osden Ok, Im postivite Yall are also a little peeved that most of the ships in EVE are not symetrical... Like the Kestrel.....so Lop-sided...Yet the drake is very symetrical... That's funny... i think the Kestrel is about as sexy as they get, while the Drake is a snoozer. Raven looks like **** though, jumbled up garbage... it's like the modeler just threw a bunch a crap at the wall and kept what stuck. --
Aniel Zaar Gallente Light of Orion	Posted - 2009.03.23 03:34:00 - [17] Helios! CCP changed its model from a nice, symmetrical shape to some obscenity! I'm glad the current cloaking hides the ugliness from my eyes. ARGH! -^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^ By the way, I am an Ishtar and T2 sentries fan. Fight to make the sentry damage rig work for all drones.
Psiri	Posted - 2009.03.23 06:10:00 - [18] Since the graphics update I think Caldari are looking pretty hot actually.
fuxinos Caldari Guys 0f Sarcasm	Posted - 2009.03.23 07:11:00 - [19] A bigger Truster effect like on the Navy Raven, would actualy help The standard Raven and Golem quite a lot. But meh, CCP aint gonna change anything at all anyway, they probably wont even gonna read this thread :/
Hugh Ruka Exploratio et Industria Morispatia	Posted - 2009.03.23 07:21:00 - [20] what's all the shouting about symetry ? caldari have some of the most interesting and most beautiful ships in the game ... Gallente are most boring (seconded by Amarr) ... go to hell with all your symetry ... I don't want boring ship models ... --- SIG --- CSM: your support is needed !

Xapharia WOLIMAZO INC	Posted - 2009.03.23 07:51:00 - [21] Originally by: Bonhomme Carnaval My Geddon bends to the right. I Lol'd On another hand... Why do you want symetrical ships? Symmetry = boring. The only boring thing there is to point out of about the current ship models is lack of interesting colouring. _________________________ Originally by: CCP Whisper Boo hoo. Cry some more.
Shan'Talasha Mea'Questa Minmatar The Perfect Harvesting Experience	Posted - 2009.03.23 08:19:00 - [22] Symetery is a way to deal with friction, of which we have close to 0 in space. But if you want function over looks... we should all be flying in spheres. ----------------------------------------------- Originally by: Paper Rock's fine, nerf Scissors
Dracoknight	Posted - 2009.03.23 08:31:00 - [23] Like flying the Amarr Titan Backwards ? Rawr!
Selestill	Posted - 2009.03.23 10:04:00 - [24] Originally by: Ronen Osden Ok, Im postivite Yall are also a little peeved that most of the ships in EVE are not symetrical... Like the Kestrel.....so Lop-sided...Yet the drake is very symetrical... Also Whats with all the UGLY ships...Like srsly Raven looks like a flat faced pug or something...EW?! Vent your anger about un-symetrical ships HERE!!! All I can vent is my disagreement at T3 Minmatar ship being to symmetrical, that is ugly to me, it doesn't look like Minmatar at all!! Give more symmetry to Caladri if you desire it so badly, but give more Tempest and Naglfar design to Mimmatar plz, cos that are cool looking ships!
Jagga Spikes Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2009.03.23 11:38:00 - [25] raven is in no way a caldari design. look at all those rounded edges. this is clearly obsolete gallente design, which caldari took when they broke off on their own. even mess that is scorpion or moa are better representation of caldari construction philosophy. yes, some caldari ships test aesthetical norms, but raven just goes against caldari nature.
Rothgar Davanev	Posted - 2009.03.23 11:41:00 - [26] Ships don't have to be symmetrical but I prefer it for them to look "rational". The caldari are mostly fine, the industrial look works ok - even the Bantam and Osprey look functional if not pretty and thats fine by me. The Drake is boring though and the Griffin is just strange. Amarr ships generally look good and "rational" at the came time, sleek, mostly symetrical, centrlined engines etc. All in all probably the best looking range. Minmatar are patchy, Hurricane and Typhoon especially are favourites - but what the hell is a Rupture supposed to be ? and no one could pay me to fly a scythe. Once, long ago on a another character, a scythe was the only ship for sale in a 0.0 station that I could fly, the resulting nausea lasted a week. I flew the entire trip praying no one I knew would see me. My own least favourite are the Gallente - especially the frigates. squashed lizard appears to be the look they are going for. Non symmetrical but without apparent reason. Exequeror is just disgusting. Whats the horn on the Incursus for - nothing else has anything like ? Battleships are better. All in all eve ships are a real mixed bag. I like the way they try to be brave with the designs but some just go too far.
Mike Jaezy	Posted - 2009.03.23 11:51:00 - [27] I agree completely. Someone seriously needs to can some modelers. A lot of the ships in Eve just look awful. It's a good thing that the game has other merits. The thorax could be a really good looking ship if it wasn't for that lopsided thing underneath it.
Gen Eisenhower Amarr	Posted - 2009.03.23 13:16:00 - [28] Originally by: Sirani biggest problem with the raven is the textures on it are too low resolution, it looks terrible if you zoom in on it just a little Same with the harbi. A nice ship, decent shape, but but even after some texture updates it's surface looks ugly. Please make the harbi's surface look cooler.
Reatu Krentor Minmatar Void Spiders Fate Weavers	Posted - 2009.03.23 14:02:00 - [29] Originally by: Rothgar Davanev Minmatar are patchy, Hurricane and Typhoon especially are favourites - but what the hell is a Rupture supposed to be ? and no one could pay me to fly a scythe. Once, long ago on a another character, a scythe was the only ship for sale in a 0.0 station that I could fly, the resulting nausea lasted a week. I flew the entire trip praying no one I knew would see me. You should take a look at the Scythe and derivatives again, they're vastly improved in premium over classic, Classic Scythe was awfull I'll agree on that(yes i've sat just the same as you, praying noone would see me in a scythe lookalike) I hate mirror symmetry, now that looks more ugly then a assymmetrical ship like the Raven. Examples of this mirror symmetry are all the battlecruisers(you can even see the seam where the artists mirrored one side to the other on some), Scythe(still better then the old Scythe though)... To me a ship can be symmetrical but one side shouldn't be an exact mirror of the other. Good example of this I've seen recently is the Tengu(on sisi), overall it's symmetrical but has detailing that isn't. When thinking of other games, a game that pulled that off superbly was Homeworld 2. -- stuff --
SuperNova221	Posted - 2009.03.23 14:09:00 - [30] Originally by: Benco97 Ships which are deliberately asymmetrical don't bother me, Ships which are supposed to be symmetrical yet have MODEL ERRORS make me lose my mind. This, fix the Domi, please. It can't be too hard surely just fix the damn texture.

Warrio Southern Cross Incorporated Dara Cothrom	Posted - 2009.03.23 14:50:00 - [31] Need more lateral ships like the Catalyst. sXe
Metalcali Amarr	Posted - 2009.03.23 14:55:00 - [32] All caldari ships look like they are flying backwards and with so many protrusions with flashing lights, make them seem almost bug like in nature. Also, the dominix is shaped like an upside down shoe.
Marcus Druallis Quantum Industries RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2009.03.23 15:45:00 - [33] Cormorant is the perfect balance of symmetry and asymmetry. Beautiful, menacing looking craft. --
StinkRay	Posted - 2009.03.23 15:54:00 - [34] Originally by: Johann Callasan Originally by: TimMc Originally by: Tahlma Caldari ships are supposed to flaunt the ideas of conventional beauty. It reflects the spartan attitude of the race as a whole. What do you want, pink ships like the Gallente? Hey we are very happy with your lovely pink ships and would hate to have ships that looks industrial and gunmetal. Considering that Gallente are supposed to be of French origin, the thought that their ships are pink, frilly and TOTALLY girly seems somehow....fitting :) Chauvinism right there! booh Please resize sig to a maximum of 400 x 120 and filesize no greater than 24000 bytes - Mitnal
teH seKs0r Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2009.03.23 15:59:00 - [35] I find something I dislike in most designs. Ones that I kind of like in no order are Arbitrator, Brutix, Hyperion, Coercer, Comorant, Catalyst, Hurricane, Typhoon, Punisher, Executioner, Kestral, and magnate. The rest are kind of meh. Originally by: Warrio Need more lateral ships like the Catalyst. I wouldn't mind seeing more of this either. The Myrmidon does remind me of Babylon 5. CCP could take a look at a few games for inspiration imo. Sins of a Solar Empire some of the Advent capitals would be cool additions to Gallente like the Halcyon carrier. Radiant would be more Amarr ish with it's beak front perhaps even caldari? TEC ships wouldn't be a bad start for Minmatar designs like the KOL battleship or the Dunov even the Akkan looks cool. Vasari look good but can't pick a race :). Homeworld none of the ships seem to stand out as something I want to see everyday. Battlestar Galactica now I wouldn't mind a similar battlestar type of model in game but would have to be Minmatar imo with projectile and missles and armor tank.
Arkeladin	Posted - 2009.03.23 16:06:00 - [36] Originally by: Warrio Need more lateral ships like the Catalyst. Ya, we need more ships that look llike they were salvaged from a atmosphere craft - and only half got salvaged, at that. Catalyst looks like HALF of a wing section - only matched byt he half-wits that fly that half-wing :)
K'uata Sayus	Posted - 2009.03.23 16:09:00 - [37] The Rupture looks like a rusted soldering gun, but one hell of a cruiser. Symmetry is more or less defined as beauty achieved by balanced proportion. Given the unbalanced nature of the mental state of Eve's races, it is a wonder we have any symmetrical ships at all..... The original designs of Eve ships IMHO, came as a result of the design team consuming legal and illegal substances, getting crazy, and then making a few while hungover and guilt-ridden sober. EVERYONE SEEMS NORMAL UNTIL YOU GET TO KNOW THEM.
Ghengis Tia	Posted - 2009.03.23 16:11:00 - [38] Originally by: Arkeladin Originally by: Warrio Need more lateral ships like the Catalyst. Ya, we need more ships that look llike they were salvaged from a atmosphere craft - and only half got salvaged, at that. Catalyst looks like HALF of a wing section - only matched byt he half-wits that fly that half-wing :) The Catalyst is an homage to the venerable WWII B-17.
Johann Callasan Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2009.03.23 16:11:00 - [39] Originally by: teH seKs0r I find something I dislike in most designs. Ones that I kind of like in no order are Arbitrator, Brutix, Hyperion, Coercer, Comorant, Catalyst, Hurricane, Typhoon, Punisher, Executioner, Kestral, and magnate. The rest are kind of meh. Originally by: Warrio Need more lateral ships like the Catalyst. I wouldn't mind seeing more of this either. The Myrmidon does remind me of Babylon 5. CCP could take a look at a few games for inspiration imo. Sins of a Solar Empire some of the Advent capitals would be cool additions to Gallente like the Halcyon carrier. Radiant would be more Amarr ish with it's beak front perhaps even caldari? TEC ships wouldn't be a bad start for Minmatar designs like the KOL battleship or the Dunov even the Akkan looks cool. Vasari look good but can't pick a race :). Homeworld none of the ships seem to stand out as something I want to see everyday. Battlestar Galactica now I wouldn't mind a similar battlestar type of model in game but would have to be Minmatar imo with projectile and missles and armor tank. I'd like to see a similar design to Wing Commander's Vesuvius command carrier, personally. it may be a simple design, but it's sleek, menacing, and overall pretty cool. For those not in the know: Here It Is: The Vesuvius
Caldose	Posted - 2009.03.23 16:27:00 - [40] Originally by: Johann Callasan I'd like to see a similar design to Wing Commander's Vesuvius command carrier, personally. it may be a simple design, but it's sleek, menacing, and overall pretty cool. For those not in the know: Here It Is: The Vesuvius there isn't a ship in EVE as ugly and boring as that thing

Cade Morrigan Caldari	Posted - 2009.03.23 17:00:00 - [41] Originally by: SuperNova221 Originally by: Benco97 Ships which are deliberately asymmetrical don't bother me, Ships which are supposed to be symmetrical yet have MODEL ERRORS make me lose my mind. This, fix the Domi, please. It can't be too hard surely just fix the damn texture. No amount of texture adjustment will polish up that turd.
Cade Morrigan Caldari	Posted - 2009.03.23 17:02:00 - [42] Originally by: Caldose Originally by: Johann Callasan I'd like to see a similar design to Wing Commander's Vesuvius command carrier, personally. it may be a simple design, but it's sleek, menacing, and overall pretty cool. For those not in the know: Here It Is: The Vesuvius there isn't a ship in EVE as ugly and boring as that thing No doubt... yuck-o!
Grisella Clifton Gallente Carpe Nox	Posted - 2009.03.23 19:10:00 - [43] If the Imicus is a flying tumor, the Domi is what happens after the tumor metastasizes and goes to the brain. Big lumpy forehead. Almost too bad it's such an incredibly effective ship... And yeah, too many pointy bits on the Raven and weird looking main engine outlet. And what's up with the silly refueling probe on the Atron/Ishkur? It might even look okay if it weren't as long as the freaking ship.
Le Sac Amarr Mindstar Brigade	Posted - 2009.03.23 21:08:00 - [44] I like the Amarr designs most, but I also have many <3's for Minmatar and Gallente. My favourite looking ships are: Magnate, Omen, Naglfar, Thrasher, Tristan, Megathron, Apocalypse, Hyperion, and Tempest. I think one of the ugliest ships is the Caracal. What is it doing? Could you make a more weedy-looking cruiser? It looks positively diseased.
Aioa Planetary Assault Systems	Posted - 2009.03.23 23:58:00 - [45] Originally by: K'uata Sayus Symmetry is more or less defined as beauty achieved by balanced proportion. Well, it can also completely disregard aesthetics and be used to describe something that's simply a geometric mirror-image. Honestly, I've never quite understood this fevered hatred for anything asymmetrical. I think there is quite possibly something wrong with your brains. --
Draeca Tharri and Co.	Posted - 2009.03.24 01:57:00 - [46] More ships like Cyclone please One of the coolest looking things in the game.
Josie Kaiser	Posted - 2009.03.24 02:46:00 - [47] Originally by: Grisella Clifton If the Imicus is a flying tumor, the Domi is what happens after the tumor metastasizes and goes to the brain. Big lumpy forehead. Almost too bad it's such an incredibly effective ship... I agree with Grisella, the Domi is a flying forehead. Personally, I like most of the Gallente ships, I really like the Incursus, for some reason and the Myrmidon is pretty unique. The Exequror is probably the most "organic" ship that I can recall to memory right now... or, it was, before premium graphics. It still looks pretty cool, anyway. I'm only slightly surprised that no one has mentioned this yet, but the front-end of the Wreath looks just like a train engine with a cow-catcher. I like the Stabber's/Thrasher's gilled look, like a salamander. My eye finds the best looking ships in Amarr, however. I love the talon-like symetry in the Omen and Prophecy. On the downside there are ships like the Maller and Augoror, more flying foreheads.
Valor Anselmo	Posted - 2009.03.24 02:46:00 - [48] Gallente ships are the sexiest... ...Megathron
Ronen Osden Caldari Vulcan Foundry OPUS Alliance	Posted - 2009.03.24 03:57:00 - [49] Honestly, Im surprised the amount of replys this thread has recieved... Anyways, I dunno when I think of space I think of symetrical ships...not flying jumbles of metal, with an auto cannon or a missle launcher duck taped to it...(I do <3 minni Ships) But eh, All in favor of custom paint jobs? (Little Retro Flame Action Could Make The Raven...Almost Barable.) XD
Hikaru Sulu Caldari Black Legion Industries	Posted - 2009.03.24 04:37:00 - [50] Anyone else find it funny that a spaceship game's forum censors the word c o c k p i t ? I mean it should use a little sense. It should check to see if its part of a word, and not by itself before it goes ahead and blocks it out. Originally by: Morrow Disca So, I find myself suddenly cross training for Amarr. .... because the abaddon firing lasers looks cooler than the Fonz carrying a big bag of cool things.

Esalia Naivre	Posted - 2009.03.24 07:08:00 - [51] In theory, I don't mind the asymmetry in Eve. There are quite a few ships that I do think look all the better for it, as a point of fact. But I dislike most of them. Not for any matter of aesthetics or beauty, but simply because when I looks at, say, a Moa or a Catalyst (among others) I can't help but think to myself "There is no way that thing could go in a straight line." Symmetrical design may not be necessary, but symmetrical weight distribution is an absolute must, and the vast majority of asymmetrical designs in this game look as though their weight distribution is extremely bad. But this is kind of a weird niggle for me to go off on. Especially since weight distribution in nearly all sci-fi is equally bad, but most other series have it vertically set, so it seems less noticeable for some stupid reason. As an aside, I tend to like the aesthetic of pretty much all the races, though, perhaps ironically, I feel that the Myrmidon, which is my favorite craft, would look significantly more awesome if it were rotated 90¦ counter-clockwise to rest on it's side and take advantage of it's obvious flying-wing motif.
Grek Forto Malevolent Intentions Dark Solar Empire	Posted - 2009.03.24 07:43:00 - [52] Originally by: Esalia Naivre .... We are in space you know, no aerodynamics here.
Valor Anselmo	Posted - 2009.03.24 07:47:00 - [53] Originally by: Grek Forto Originally by: Esalia Naivre .... We are in space you know, no aerodynamics here. Id also like to point out that the Catalyst has much smaller afterburners at the smaller end of the ship...and an advanced civ could probably sync all the engines to give equal thrust....simple physics
EvilD's EvilTwin	Posted - 2009.03.24 07:56:00 - [54] ...can i get a ship that looks like this plz? Ooooo pretty
Walker Bulldog Minmatar VIRTUAL LIFE VANGUARD	Posted - 2009.03.24 08:13:00 - [55] Originally by: Nevenda'ar Personally I want more vertical ships models. The myrmidon is almost perfect, but i feel it should have been a bit longer and thinner then it is now. A homeworld style space banana would be especially appreciated. Naglfar is your answer.
Esalia Naivre	Posted - 2009.03.24 08:15:00 - [56] Originally by: Grek Forto Originally by: Esalia Naivre .... We are in space you know, no aerodynamics here. It's not a matter of aerodynamics. It's simply a property of momentum. An object will move according how the force moving it is applied; as far as spaceships go, if I apply force so that every portion of the ships receives equal amounts of force, then the ship will move in a straight line. If the force is not evenly distributed, it will not. It sounds extremely stupid, yes, but think of it like this; if I were to say, push on one corner of a cart, you'd expect it would move in an arc right? Because I applied force unevenly, part of the cart moves less than the part I pushed. Many, hell, probably all of the asymmetrical ships in Eve have their weight and engine arrangements set up so that moving in a straight line would be impossible. The parts doing the pushing are pushing one side more than the other. Aerodynamics does not factor in.
Valor Anselmo	Posted - 2009.03.24 08:34:00 - [57] Originally by: Esalia Naivre Originally by: Grek Forto Originally by: Esalia Naivre .... We are in space you know, no aerodynamics here. It's not a matter of aerodynamics. It's simply a property of momentum. An object will move according how the force moving it is applied; as far as spaceships go, if I apply force so that every portion of the ships receives equal amounts of force, then the ship will move in a straight line. If the force is not evenly distributed, it will not. It sounds extremely stupid, yes, but think of it like this; if I were to say, push on one corner of a cart, you'd expect it would move in an arc right? Because I applied force unevenly, part of the cart moves less than the part I pushed. Many, hell, probably all of the asymmetrical ships in Eve have their weight and engine arrangements set up so that moving in a straight line would be impossible. The parts doing the pushing are pushing one side more than the other. Aerodynamics does not factor in. Retort my comment or fail-motion physics
Gluthor	Posted - 2009.03.24 08:58:00 - [58] ships designed before trinity are all weird, but strangely attractive (me loves the moa) ships after, are all better looking because it looks better in the screen shots and makes eve a more appealing game.
James Lyrus Lyrus Associates The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.03.24 08:59:00 - [59] Originally by: Taipan Leviathan Originally by: Sidus Isaacs Raven kinda looks a bit stupid imo. Some poor design choises made on it, like the huge air outlet on the back?, the wierd **pit thigy on the front? Makes no sense :P Tempest has wingy bits and **pit that extends 500 meters in front of the ship for no apperent reason besides being shot off. That's called 'ablative armour' :)
James Lyrus Lyrus Associates The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.03.24 09:05:00 - [60] Originally by: Ronen Osden Honestly, Im surprised the amount of replys this thread has recieved... Anyways, I dunno when I think of space I think of symetrical ships...not flying jumbles of metal, with an auto cannon or a missle launcher duck taped to it...(I do <3 minni Ships) Millenium Falcon? Anyway, if you're talking about optimal ship configurations, a sphere is pretty close - it's symmetrical, and minimizes surface area. But really, there's no real _need_ to worry about the aerodynamics or drag caused by asymmetry, and there's a load of reasons why every ship component needs to come in multiples of two. The Scorpion (With the Widow paint job) is by far one of the most sexy ships in EVE, and that's not symmetrical.

Thercon Jair Minmatar InQuest Ascension Skunk-Works	Posted - 2009.03.24 14:42:00 - [61] And why oh why did they make the ferox completely symmetrical with the Premium graphics? It's no just boring. You see what whining gets you Real men do it the hard way: fly Minmatar!
Aeo IV Amarr Xomic OmniCorporation	Posted - 2009.03.24 15:30:00 - [62] I wish they'd change the Domi model-- it's just plain bad looking. Maybe make more like one of the Gallent Carriers, but vertically flipped or something.
Jagga Spikes Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2009.03.24 15:38:00 - [63] http://eve-files.com/dl/192035 vroom :) but, seriously, what was good 5 years ago, is not as good now. some ships need face-lifting. keep the concept, but take it higher. no need for complete symmetry, but spaceships need to be balanced.
Esalia Naivre	Posted - 2009.03.24 16:04:00 - [64] Originally by: Valor Anselmo Retort my comment or fail-motion physics Sorry. It took me a while to come up with that explanation, and after that I went to sleep and missed your response. In any case, I decided to take a few moments to look at the ships in question and... well, it is possible that the Catalysts thrusters could evenly apply thrust to the ship. But what about the Moa? It has four thrusters, but they're all below the bridge assembly, which is rather chunky. Chunkier than I remembered, actually, and with nothing to counter that mass. Though, to be fair, a few symmetrical ships also have that problem, just moving down-relative instead of up (the Maller and Caracal spring to mind.) It's just a vidya game in any case, and I suppose the proper response would be "So what if the Catalyst and the Moa are extremely funky looking ships. Clearly, they just need more rhinestones and disco." Also, I should have said mass distribution last night rather than weight. I blame tiredness. Why are we going on about this? Mostly last nights exauhsto-rant was a response to that "lol aerodynamics" comment. ... need more coffee.
Cohkka Celestial Apocalypse death from above..	Posted - 2009.03.24 17:07:00 - [65] I like asymetrical ships the most, Amarr ships are the only exception to that. They may not win the beauty price but are the most interesting. The best of them all is the Tempest, most badass looking ship in the game period. Just sad how the Minmatar desing moved from garbage style to bulky armor plates. Don't speak english, just F5, F5, F5...
sukmanobov Minmatar Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2009.03.24 17:57:00 - [66] Edited by: sukmanobov on 24/03/2009 17:58:04 Originally by: Sidus Isaacs Raven kinda looks a bit stupid imo. Some poor design choises made on it, like the huge air outlet on the back?, the wierd **pit thigy on the front? Makes no sense :P HaHa they **'d out the C@ck in C@ckpit Yeap the raven is one ugly beast, also the most of the lop-sided looking ships are.
Bonhomme Carnaval	Posted - 2009.03.24 18:06:00 - [67] What, you guys think Caldari ships are just designed at random? No way! Caldari Ship Design for Dummies 1) Fill designer's rectum with ink of multiple shades of grey. 2) Have designer stand over a large piece of white paper, in a sitting position. 3) Punch designer in the stomach. The secret behind Caldari ship design has been revealed! Of course, the most important thing to notice in this discussion is that here on the forums, there's really no way of telling when you've stopped reading someone's post and started the sig.
Zarya Hakkonen Hakkonen Enterprises	Posted - 2009.03.24 18:59:00 - [68] Originally by: Le Sac I think one of the ugliest ships is the Caracal. What is it doing? Could you make a more weedy-looking cruiser? It looks positively diseased. I love the Caracal. She's a lean, mean, missile-slinging machine. You say weedy, I say stripped down for action. Originally by: Draeca More ships like Cyclone please One of the coolest looking things in the game. If there is a battlecruiser looking ship, it's Cyclone. This. The Cyclone is the most businesslike-looking ship in the game. It says, "I am here to kick ass and chew bubblegum, and I'm all out of bubblegum." Winter is my season; midnight, my hour; silence, my anthem.
sukmanobov Minmatar Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2009.03.24 19:06:00 - [69] Originally by: Zarya Hakkonen This. The Cyclone is the most businesslike-looking ship in the game. It says, "I am here to kick ass and chew bubblegum, and I'm all out of bubblegum." I agree it looks like a Tank. shame its a friggin sheild tanker
Meylota LeFey Minmatar	Posted - 2009.03.24 19:07:00 - [70] Edited by: Meylota LeFey on 24/03/2009 19:07:59 If they're gonna steal inspiration from B5, they could do worse than the Warlock or Victory class cap ships. I've got a soft spot for the various Narn cruisers too. My personal "this is one fugly ship" design is the Vigil. Awesome little frig, but ouch!

Zarya Hakkonen Hakkonen Enterprises	Posted - 2009.03.24 19:31:00 - [71] I quite like the Vigil. No reason I can really put into words, it just feels right somehow. Winter is my season; midnight, my hour; silence, my anthem.
Drevar	Posted - 2009.03.24 19:48:00 - [72] I don't mind asymetrical ships if they indeed look like they were supposed to be asymetrical. There are far too many ships that draw a natural line right down the middle, yet the two sides are completely off balance. Gallente are especially bad at this. Thier ships are supposed to follow a more artistic design. Less hard edges and more elegant curves, etc. Instead they come off as bulbous tumors or worse. The other complaint I have is the apparent total inefficiency of engine design on pretty much every ship. Why do ships need to have not just 15 engines, but 15 engines each of a different size? Plus, none of them would fit on any other ship. You would expect an efficent company/military to use a few interchangeable propulsion units rather than having to keep several hundred different types on hand for replacement.
Benco97 Gallente	Posted - 2009.03.24 20:23:00 - [73] As far as design in accordance with roles I think the Burst(Classic model, not the neutered "Premium" one) fills that especially well. It looks built from the ground up with it's job as a light,fast miner as it's main design aspect, no wasted areas just good minimal design. Yes it's an "Ugly" ship but that is part of it, I think whoever made the original model got it spot on and I would like to shake their hand. However... I do wish they would give it it's eyes back... Please? Originally by: P'uck You're a DUMBASS - bold italic underline at the VERY LEAST.
Nadarius Chrome Celestial Horizon Corp. I.C.C Industrial Drive Yards	Posted - 2009.03.25 01:16:00 - [74] Originally by: Johann Callasan I'd like to see a similar design to Wing Commander's Vesuvius command carrier, personally. it may be a simple design, but it's sleek, menacing, and overall pretty cool. For those not in the know: Here It Is: The Vesuvius Looks a bit like an Archon IMO. And I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned the Machariel. I'm not sure if I'd prefer it with or without the asymmetrical auxiliary engine though.
Johann Callasan Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2009.03.25 01:37:00 - [75] Originally by: Nadarius Chrome Originally by: Johann Callasan I'd like to see a similar design to Wing Commander's Vesuvius command carrier, personally. it may be a simple design, but it's sleek, menacing, and overall pretty cool. For those not in the know: Here It Is: The Vesuvius Looks a bit like an Archon IMO. And I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned the Machariel. I'm not sure if I'd prefer it with or without the asymmetrical auxiliary engine though. Thanks, you just gave me something to train forQ Don't care if it's expensive enough to be just a hangar ornament - it'd be worth it to have a Vesuvius style. Or a Midway-class Heavy Carrier, or a Murphy-class Destroyer. Both could be in EvE, if only EA dodn't own the copyright... Ah well, thanks for the pointer!
Johann Callasan Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2009.03.25 01:39:00 - [76] Originally by: Zarya Hakkonen Originally by: Le Sac I think one of the ugliest ships is the Caracal. What is it doing? Could you make a more weedy-looking cruiser? It looks positively diseased. I love the Caracal. She's a lean, mean, missile-slinging machine. You say weedy, I say stripped down for action. You say "stripped down for action", I say " flame-broiled dragster" :) Originally by: Draeca More ships like Cyclone please One of the coolest looking things in the game. If there is a battlecruiser looking ship, it's Cyclone. This. The Cyclone is the most businesslike-looking ship in the game. It says, "I am here to kick ass and chew bubblegum, and I'm all out of bubblegum." Meh, look at a Rokh sometime. The design just says "I'm gonna stixck it to ya" with it's nightstick design. A suprisingly symmetrical and clean design for Caldari.
Ronen Osden Caldari Vulcan Foundry OPUS Alliance	Posted - 2009.03.26 07:14:00 - [77] Originally by: Meylota LeFey Edited by: Meylota LeFey on 24/03/2009 19:07:59 If they're gonna steal inspiration from B5, they could do worse than the Warlock or Victory class cap ships. I've got a soft spot for the various Narn cruisers too. My personal "this is one fugly ship" design is the Vigil. Awesome little frig, but ouch! lol, well if you ask me the warlock one there looks kinda like a rokh....and the victory one looks kinda like a condor....so yeah lol. As for back at post 54 - looks kinda like a mach if you ask me o.O I agree with yall about most gallente ships looking like tumors removed from a person, haphazardly thrown back in and removed again 5 years later...or something to that point. Amaar ships for the most part are symmetrical...but i just dont like the whole "gold" look... If you ask me Daedalus from stargate Sg-1 and atlantis would make a sure awesome caldari BS or BC, i mean heck! its already gunmetal grey all you have to do is paste a few red half worn off lines and a caldari logo on it and its good to go!, seriously on the show it uses railguns and missles .... how appropriate? /me totally wants a ... (trys to think of a bird name to try and fit in with all other caldari ship names...) Flamingo :D:D:D:D (LOL)
yani dumyat Minmatar purple pot hogs Doctrine.	Posted - 2009.03.26 13:21:00 - [78] Moros looks like stay puft marshmallow man shagged a hyperion


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