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Thurken Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 1	Posted - 2012.05.01 01:24:00 - [31] - Quote You can use small weapons(rails, artillery, small missile launchers) on cruisers. With this setup you have enough powergrid left to fit a very sturdy tank and rip trough level 2 missions easily and do some level 3 missions,too. Medium long range weopons on cruisers have troubles to track frigates. Tracking modules without other bonuses won't help really with that. Only kiting at range does.
Dato Koppla Perkone Caldari State 18	Posted - 2012.05.01 04:17:00 - [32] - Quote Cruisers are outclassed in level 2 missions by destroyers, lack of skill just makes it worse as you can't track anything for crap. Except the Caracal, but that's only because it can shoot bonused small ammo (RSML). Destroyers are where its at for L2s, their bonuses correlate almost perfectly to what you need in L2s, and they have 7-8 small guns, seeing as you're Minmatar, the Thrasher is downright awesome, use 250mm artillery, shield booster, afterburner, and the rest is up to you, you can alpha everything at range, and wtf tracking from destroyers bonus. If you use ACs you can get more dps but less range, and that will put you in the middle of the rat group which can be hard to tank. This is what I use for L2/L1 blitzing and Angel epic arc (with a cloak/mwd). It's nothing short of amazing at what it does. [Thrasher, PvE] 250mm Light Artillery Cannon II, EMP S 250mm Light Artillery Cannon II, EMP S 250mm Light Artillery Cannon II, EMP S 250mm Light Artillery Cannon II, EMP S 250mm Light Artillery Cannon II, EMP S 250mm Light Artillery Cannon II, EMP S 250mm Light Artillery Cannon II, EMP S [Empty High slot] 1MN Afterburner II Small Shield Booster II Cap Recharger II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Small Projectile Collision Accelerator I Small Projectile Ambit Extension I Small Projectile Metastasis Adjuster I Obviously T1/Meta the items that you can't T2, fitting is easy and you can lose the gun rigs for tank/cap rigs if you're having trouble tanking stuff but you shouldn't as long as you take out frigs at range and speed tank cruisers with your AB. TL:DR Gun cruisers suck at L2s, Destroyers are where its at.
Seth Actault kings of eve 0	Posted - 2012.05.01 04:53:00 - [33] - Quote Get a vexor with hobgoblins II, it eats frigs for breakfast, lunch and dinner. Omnomnomnom
MisterNick The Sagan Clan Persona Non Gratis 57	Posted - 2012.05.01 12:04:00 - [34] - Quote Once you're in a cruiser or bigger, you want to train up your drone skills as they take over much of the work with killing frigates. Nobody ever said they regretted training for T2 lights The stabber can work in missions, essentially flown as a bigger rifter, but the rupture is more sturdy and forgiving, along with the reasonable drone bay ~ Edit for typos "Fools! I'll show them all!" What do you mean that one's already taken?
serras bang Lucien Coven 2	Posted - 2012.05.01 15:00:00 - [35] - Quote ill tell you your prob with lvl 2s in a criuser your useing criuser lvl turrets dont use frig lvl guns and you will have no more probs just like the cara for lvl 2 you fight assualt missile launchers witch use standard missiles the same is tru of guns.
Bugsy VanHalen Society of lost Souls 110	Posted - 2012.05.01 16:53:00 - [36] - Quote serras bang wrote: ill tell you your prob with lvl 2s in a criuser your useing criuser lvl turrets dont use frig lvl guns and you will have no more probs just like the cara for lvl 2 you fight assualt missile launchers witch use standard missiles the same is tru of guns. This will work, however a destroyer can fit more small guns than most cruisers, would be sweet if the dual 180s actually acted like 2 180mm small guns rather than 1 medium gun. Fitting small guns on a cruiser will give you loads of CPU and Grid for tank but you don't really need it in a lvl 2. I upgraded to a rupture went I was running level 2 missions and most of the time ended up using my destroyer because it was faster. only used the rupture for the occasional hard one. I used my rupture for a lot of level 3 missions as well before getting into a Cane. No matter what level missions you are running a smaller faster ship is a better option than over sizing. For example it is a major pain to do lvl 3 missions with a battleship. you rarely have a tank issue but can not hit anything. Do not under estimate the value of gun support skills. The right support skills will not only increase your DPS but will make it a lot easy to hit smaller ships.
Drunken Bum School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 6	Posted - 2012.05.01 23:31:00 - [37] - Quote Read this through. It'll solve all your problems. http://go-dl.eve-files.com/media/0910/eve-tracking101.swf
ValentinaDLM Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 486	Posted - 2012.05.02 00:18:00 - [38] - Quote Tor Gungnir wrote: I'm just gonna stick to my Rifter or something. Surprisingly it does a lot better at Lv2 missions. Cruisers seem cursed in that they carry guns for Lv3 missions without the ability to tank those through. The only level 3 mission I ever got in trouble with in my arbitrator was "my sweet privateer" and that is only because of the webs, kill them and you can tank it just fine. That is also probably the hardest l3 in the game. All you need to tank is speed and range... Even 425s have no problem hitting mission frigs in a shield ruppy because you get some tracking enhqncers and range and fire at a distance. That and the drones really negate the need to track small things. The stabber is also not the best choice for a mission ship, both the bellicose and rupture to better usually. Also, the vexor, thorax, arbitrator, and carcal are good choices. All or them imo need a passive shield tank, though it is possible to armor tank them, iirc I posted a vid a year or two back doing an l4 in a vexor with an armor tank.
Oraac Ensor School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 3	Posted - 2012.05.03 20:52:00 - [39] - Quote Tor Gungnir wrote: Rezig Huruta wrote: You're not trying to orbit them are you? Standing still and taking it in the face. I'm a complete novice at this, but isn't there something wrong here?
Zanza Mechonis Vulkan Innovations 0	Posted - 2012.05.04 10:08:00 - [40] - Quote Ummm... Guys, if he says he has problems with the frigates, what is a BC with even larger turrets going to help really? o.o For taking out small ships, drones are your friend. It can take a few days to get some skills for their DPS (Drones skill allows 1 more drone active at a single given point in time, scout drone operation lets you use the T1 drones, Drone Interfacing gives a 20% boost to DPS per level, and Drone Sharpshooting increases their optimal range) Throw a few of these in your ship, order them to shoot the frigates, and they should go down rather easily. Just be sure to get the damage type right.

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