Originally by: Michayel Lyon

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Nothing about sound?

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Originally by: Qual

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4) Log on and marvel at how the skill is NOT training anyways...

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Originally by: Jalum Krayal

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Please do not reduce the strength of Deep Space Probes until you give us some method of managing scan results! Give us a filter to sort by type, OR let us ignore signatures that we've warped to or something.

The inner cluster of planets in Wormspace is maddening and frustrating. Anywhere from 10-45 signatures within 8au of each other, and no way to "progress" through them. This becomes a serious issue when you are in a wormspace and looking for a way out (even with a cov-ops specialist character).

It's not fun, and just about everyone who has had to do it has the same feedback.

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• Updated the difficulty on salvaging sleeper wrecks. Salvaging Sleeper wrecks was too easy.

Originally by: CCP Navigator

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Originally by: Michayel Lyon

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Nothing about sound?

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* The volume of the background sounds in the hanger has been reduced.
* The sound volume for acceleration gates has been turned down a little.

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Originally by: Joss Fillion

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Glad that many of the sound problems - especially far too loud station and acceleration gates will be fixed. I hope that whoevers version of how loud these things should be will match mine!

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Originally by: Jalum Krayal

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Please do not reduce the strength of Deep Space Probes until you give us some method of managing scan results! Give us a filter to sort by type, OR let us ignore signatures that we've warped to or something.

The inner cluster of planets in Wormspace is maddening and frustrating. Anywhere from 10-45 signatures within 8au of each other, and no way to "progress" through them. This becomes a serious issue when you are in a wormspace and looking for a way out (even with a cov-ops specialist character).

It's not fun, and just about everyone who has had to do it has the same feedback.

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Originally by: Qual

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Nothing about fixing the skill queue bug? Loosing training due to next skill not actually starting is getting REALLY old, REALLY fast.

If you have troubble reproducing try this:

1) Set a skill over 24h long. Wait until less than 24h remain. Add a new skill to the end of the queue which is also longer than 24h.
2) Log out.
(To prove that the server understands what you have asked it, log into a freshly installed client and see that indeed you have a skill in queue. It will tell you that it has. Alas no chaching problem. It really HAS teh skill in queue.)
3) Wait until the new skill should have started.
4) Log on and marvel at how the skill is NOT training anyways...

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Originally by: Xailia

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* You can now add skills to the training queue that will complete after the 24-hour limit. This change means that skills can be queued up to 23 hours and 59 minutes, with the final skill added bringing the queue to the maximum limit.

Sounds like the UI currently displays it but doesn't actually allow it.

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Originally by: Rynlam

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Funny, I've trained 24h+ skills and kept tacking things on to the end as soon as the total was under 24h since the queue was implemented, with no problems.

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Originally by: Isabella Strauss

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Originally by: Rynlam

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Funny, I've trained 24h+ skills and kept tacking things on to the end as soon as the total was under 24h since the queue was implemented, with no problems.

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Same here. Everything works like a charm, and has always

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Originally by: Spaztick

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You are not outnumbered, you are in a target-rich environment.

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• Deep Space Scanner Probe I and its variations have had their strength reduced.

Originally by: Dnai Hsrang

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Can someone from CCP give us the rationale for the following change:

• Deep Space Scanner Probe I and its variations have had their strength reduced.

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Deep Space Scanner Probe I and its variations have had their strength reduced.

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Originally by: Jalum Krayal

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Please do not reduce the strength of Deep Space Probes until you give us some method of managing scan results! Give us a filter to sort by type, OR let us ignore signatures that we've warped to or something.

The inner cluster of planets in Wormspace is maddening and frustrating. Anywhere from 10-45 signatures within 8au of each other, and no way to "progress" through them. This becomes a serious issue when you are in a wormspace and looking for a way out (even with a cov-ops specialist character).

It's not fun, and just about everyone who has had to do it has the same feedback.

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Originally by: CCP Navigator

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Originally by: Michayel Lyon

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Nothing about sound?

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* The volume of the background sounds in the hanger has been reduced.
* The sound volume for acceleration gates has been turned down a little.

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Originally by: Akimi Fuji

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Edited by: Akimi Fuji on 24/03/2009 16:28:56
Please CCP bring back the option to not load the station environments. I often go AFK for a couple hours while sitting inside the stations. When I return if that option is not disabled my graphics card has turned into a mini thermo nuclear reactor. We really need that option brought back or fix the issue with the graphics in the stations to prevent our graphics cards from melting down.

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Originally by: Karanth

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That's like sitting on your hand till it goes numb, so it's like a stranger. It's not as satisfying, and I'LL know the difference.

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Originally by: CCP Greyscale

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The deep space probe was unintentionally given too much strength in the initial release - as it is there's very little reason to use combat probes when you have access to the deep space probes. The deep space probe was always intended to fill the slot used by the Observator - high skill requirements, useful mainly for running down deep space sites (hence the name). It was not intended to replace the Multispec's functionality, or to obsolete the combat probes. As such, this is a fairly straightforward fix.

That said, we're aware of how they're being used currently, we understand the concern about site counts in W-space in particular, and we're working on changes to address this which should turn up in the next patch. I'm not going to give details here because we're still finalizing stuff, but it's being addressed.

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Originally by: Realar

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Originally by: Qual

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4) Log on and marvel at how the skill is NOT training anyways...

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5) Marvel how the API lies to you about it, saying it is in training

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Originally by: CCP Navigator

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**Important** Scheduled downtime will be extended to 12.15 GMT for testing.

EVE Online: Apocrypha 1.0.2 will be deployed this Wednesday, 25th March, 2009. Downtime is scheduled to start at 11.00 GMT and is expected to be completed by 12.15 GMT meaning there should be no extended downtime. Apocrypha 1.0.2 follows the Apocrypha 1.0.1 patch that was released on March 17th 2009.

This patch will fix issues that have been reported following the release of Apocrypha. Issues that have been fixed include the Epic Mission Arcs, Skill Queue, User Interface, Localized Clients and much more. Patch Notes are available; updates to the notes may be added should any further items be cleared through the Quality Assurance process. These updates will be highlighted with green text.

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Some ships were missing their correct colors when low quality shaders was enabled. This has been resolved.

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Originally by: Realar

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Well, I'm glad for you two. Do you want a cookie or something?

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Originally by: Akimi Fuji

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Edited by: Akimi Fuji on 24/03/2009 16:28:56
Please CCP bring back the option to not load the station environments. I often go AFK for a couple hours while sitting inside the stations. When I return if that option is not disabled my graphics card has turned into a mini thermo nuclear reactor. We really need that option brought back or fix the issue with the graphics in the stations to prevent our graphics cards from melting down.

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That said, we're aware of how they're being used currently, we understand the concern about site counts in W-space in particular, and we're working on changes to address this which should turn up in the next patch. I'm not going to give details here because we're still finalizing stuff, but it's being addressed.

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Originally by: CCP Greyscale

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(...) useful mainly for running down deep space sites (hence the name). (...)

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http://maps.eve-on.net/

Originally by: CCP Greyscale

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The deep space probe was unintentionally given too much strength in the initial release - as it is there's very little reason to use combat probes when you have access to the deep space probes. The deep space probe was always intended to fill the slot used by the Observator - high skill requirements, useful mainly for running down deep space sites (hence the name). It was not intended to replace the Multispec's functionality, or to obsolete the combat probes. As such, this is a fairly straightforward fix.

That said, we're aware of how they're being used currently, we understand the concern about site counts in W-space in particular, and we're working on changes to address this which should turn up in the next patch. I'm not going to give details here because we're still finalizing stuff, but it's being addressed.

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Originally by: CCP Navigator

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Originally by: Michayel Lyon

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Nothing about sound?

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* The volume of the background sounds in the hanger has been reduced.
* The sound volume for acceleration gates has been turned down a little.

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Originally by: Arkady Sadik

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Any chance of ninjaing in a fix for the "directional scanner forgets sort order after a scan" bug? (Bug report #75275)

It's really, really, really annoying :-(

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Originally by: CCP Greyscale

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The deep space probe was unintentionally given too much strength in the initial release - as it is there's very little reason to use combat probes when you have access to the deep space probes. The deep space probe was always intended to fill the slot used by the Observator - high skill requirements, useful mainly for running down deep space sites (hence the name). It was not intended to replace the Multispec's functionality, or to obsolete the combat probes. As such, this is a fairly straightforward fix.

That said, we're aware of how they're being used currently, we understand the concern about site counts in W-space in particular, and we're working on changes to address this which should turn up in the next patch. I'm not going to give details here because we're still finalizing stuff, but it's being addressed.

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Originally by: CCP Greyscale

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The deep space probe was unintentionally given too much strength in the initial release - as it is there's very little reason to use combat probes when you have access to the deep space probes. The deep space probe was always intended to fill the slot used by the Observator - high skill requirements, useful mainly for running down deep space sites (hence the name). It was not intended to replace the Multispec's functionality, or to obsolete the combat probes. As such, this is a fairly straightforward fix.

That said, we're aware of how they're being used currently, we understand the concern about site counts in W-space in particular, and we're working on changes to address this which should turn up in the next patch. I'm not going to give details here because we're still finalizing stuff, but it's being addressed.

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Originally by: Dnai Hsrang

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Originally by: CCP Greyscale

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The deep space probe was unintentionally given too much strength in the initial release - as it is there's very little reason to use combat probes when you have access to the deep space probes. The deep space probe was always intended to fill the slot used by the Observator - high skill requirements, useful mainly for running down deep space sites (hence the name). It was not intended to replace the Multispec's functionality, or to obsolete the combat probes. As such, this is a fairly straightforward fix.

That said, we're aware of how they're being used currently, we understand the concern about site counts in W-space in particular, and we're working on changes to address this which should turn up in the next patch. I'm not going to give details here because we're still finalizing stuff, but it's being addressed.

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Greyscale,
Thanks for the quick, accurate answer! Since you agree some balance is needed for the number of sites in W-space, can you wait to re-balance the deep space probe until you have implemented a complete solution?

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Originally by: CCP Greyscale

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The deep space probe was unintentionally given too much strength in the initial release - as it is there's very little reason to use combat probes when you have access to the deep space probes. The deep space probe was always intended to fill the slot used by the Observator - high skill requirements, useful mainly for running down deep space sites (hence the name). It was not intended to replace the Multispec's functionality, or to obsolete the combat probes. As such, this is a fairly straightforward fix.

That said, we're aware of how they're being used currently, we understand the concern about site counts in W-space in particular, and we're working on changes to address this which should turn up in the next patch. I'm not going to give details here because we're still finalizing stuff, but it's being addressed.

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Originally by: Qual

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Nothing about fixing the skill queue bug? Loosing training due to next skill not actually starting is getting REALLY old, REALLY fast.

If you have troubble reproducing try this:

1) Set a skill over 24h long. Wait until less than 24h remain. Add a new skill to the end of the queue which is also longer than 24h.
2) Log out.
(To prove that the server understands what you have asked it, log into a freshly installed client and see that indeed you have a skill in queue. It will tell you that it has. Alas no chaching problem. It really HAS teh skill in queue.)
3) Wait until the new skill should have started.
4) Log on and marvel at how the skill is NOT training anyways...

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Originally by: Qual

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Nothing about fixing the skill queue bug? Loosing training due to next skill not actually starting is getting REALLY old, REALLY fast.

If you have troubble reproducing try this:

1) Set a skill over 24h long. Wait until less than 24h remain. Add a new skill to the end of the queue which is also longer than 24h.
2) Log out.
(To prove that the server understands what you have asked it, log into a freshly installed client and see that indeed you have a skill in queue. It will tell you that it has. Alas no chaching problem. It really HAS teh skill in queue.)
3) Wait until the new skill should have started.
4) Log on and marvel at how the skill is NOT training anyways...

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Originally by: Ugo Mnoguron

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I found some references to the sounds too in this deployment but not the essential part in my opinion.

In this game, you are both the spectator AND the strategist who decides how to approach any situation. It is not comfortable to disconnect from one in favor of the other.

Every time you get disconnected from one of the mentioned positions, you get a lack of feedback, resulting on an unnecessary stressful situation. And feedback in the game is both sound and image.

Let the player decide if he wants a flat degree sound image or not.. (flat degree = related to distance). This way, those like me can hear what's happening 'there' while looking at 'this' or look 'there' while hearing what 'this' is doing to my ship.

Well put. I hope someone with authority to get things done at CCP reads this. At least acknowledge the fact that we are concerned. To do any less is insulting at best, deserving of termination of your employment at the other end, I suppose.

I cannot explain how annoying this is. I already told you, the decision of setting the volume degree so tightly proportional to distance is a mistake which cuts in half the EVE gaming experience. I rather have a good stereo separation than a surround effort or distance related volume level of the sound effects that actually help me be a good spectator and strategist at the same time.

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Originally by: Daftny Litchinova

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Thanks for many improvments, CCP.

Like many flagged; SOUND is inaudible in space: sometimes I won't hear my missiles Launching, or my turrets firing, or my friend's laser's pew-pewing.

Did anyone noticed many strange bug with the overview ( a station icon would change to a wreck icon, for exemple)

Overall, I'm happy!

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Originally by: Ugo Mnoguron

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I found some references to the sounds too in this deployment but not the essential part in my opinion.

In this game, you are both the spectator AND the strategist who decides how to approach any situation. It is not comfortable to disconnect from one in favor of the other.

Every time you get disconnected from one of the mentioned positions, you get a lack of feedback, resulting on an unnecessary stressful situation. And feedback in the game is both sound and image.

Let the player decide if he wants a flat degree sound image or not.. (flat degree = related to distance). This way, those like me can hear what's happening 'there' while looking at 'this' or look 'there' while hearing what 'this' is doing to my ship.

I cannot explain how annoying this is. I already told you, the decision of setting the volume degree so tightly proportional to distance is a mistake which cuts in half the EVE gaming experience. I rather have a good stereo separation than a surround effort or distance related volume level of the sound effects that actually help me be a good spectator and strategist at the same time.

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Originally by: CCP Navigator

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Originally by: Michayel Lyon

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Nothing about sound?

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* The volume of the background sounds in the hanger has been reduced.
* The sound volume for acceleration gates has been turned down a little.

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ò Growing old is mandatory.
ò Growing up is optional.

Originally by: CCP Greyscale

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The deep space probe was unintentionally given too much strength in the initial release - as it is there's very little reason to use combat probes when you have access to the deep space probes. The deep space probe was always intended to fill the slot used by the Observator - high skill requirements, useful mainly for running down deep space sites (hence the name). It was not intended to replace the Multispec's functionality, or to obsolete the combat probes. As such, this is a fairly straightforward fix.

That said, we're aware of how they're being used currently, we understand the concern about site counts in W-space in particular, and we're working on changes to address this which should turn up in the next patch. I'm not going to give details here because we're still finalizing stuff, but it's being addressed.

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Originally by: Der Eisbaer

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I noticed some graphical glitches when the engines (better: its excaust) are/is rendered over some kind of nebula or inside of special mission environmentà

The engines' excaust isn't visible at all depending on the viewing angle. Except the part where it's rendered on top of the hull.

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Originally by: Thurin Finjey

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Edited by: Thurin Finjey on 24/03/2009 23:25:58
I am disappointed that nothing is mentioned about all the missing turret sounds. If you zoom away from your ship, you here just nothing at all from your turrets. There are also no sounds from bullets, missles, explosions etc. that hit your ship when zoomed out. You cannot hear armor reppers, shield boosters and all that stuff, too. I hope this will be fixed soon since it takes away a lot of fun from the game if you cannot hear anything besides the jukebox ...

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Originally by: Zex Maxwell

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hmmm... you didn't fix the cyno effect.

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Originally by: Xialigan

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Originally by: Arkady Sadik

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Any chance of ninjaing in a fix for the "directional scanner forgets sort order after a scan" bug? (Bug report #75275)

It's really, really, really annoying :-(

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This.
And the Scan window, make it SMALLER.
As a Pvper, these are the only 2 fixes i'm looking after, and there are not planned.
NOT IMPRESSED

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Originally by: Jalum Krayal

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The inner cluster of planets in Wormspace is maddening and frustrating. Anywhere from 10-45 signatures within 8au of each other, and no way to "progress" through them. This becomes a serious issue when you are in a wormspace and looking for a way out (even with a cov-ops specialist character).

It's not fun, and just about everyone who has had to do it has the same feedback.

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Originally by: newdok

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Question about a crash issue that was not mentioned in this thread or the patch notes.

My biggest problem in appocrypha right now is the graphics-card bug mentioned in http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1019330.

I was just wondering if i could get someone to tell me if its safe to let my computer near missions tomorrow?

Thanks!

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Originally by: GyokZoli

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No missiles fix.

When will you fix the buggy missiles' flight time and damage??

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Originally by: Akimi Fuji

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Edited by: Akimi Fuji on 24/03/2009 16:28:56
Please CCP bring back the option to not load the station environments. I often go AFK for a couple hours while sitting inside the stations. When I return if that option is not disabled my graphics card has turned into a mini thermo nuclear reactor. We really need that option brought back or fix the issue with the graphics in the stations to prevent our graphics cards from melting down.

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Originally by: Rynlam

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Originally by: Qual

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Nothing about fixing the skill queue bug? Loosing training due to next skill not actually starting is getting REALLY old, REALLY fast.

If you have troubble reproducing try this:

1) Set a skill over 24h long. Wait until less than 24h remain. Add a new skill to the end of the queue which is also longer than 24h.
2) Log out.
(To prove that the server understands what you have asked it, log into a freshly installed client and see that indeed you have a skill in queue. It will tell you that it has. Alas no chaching problem. It really HAS teh skill in queue.)
3) Wait until the new skill should have started.
4) Log on and marvel at how the skill is NOT training anyways...

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Originally by: Xailia

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* You can now add skills to the training queue that will complete after the 24-hour limit. This change means that skills can be queued up to 23 hours and 59 minutes, with the final skill added bringing the queue to the maximum limit.

Sounds like the UI currently displays it but doesn't actually allow it.

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Funny, I've trained 24h+ skills and kept tacking things on to the end as soon as the total was under 24h since the queue was implemented, with no problems.

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Originally by: Mecha Polcha

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Can't find the System Map button anywhere... it used to be top right hand corner of the map window next to the Close button and neither one is there now....
To close the map I have been clicking the neocom map icon a second time.
Hope this is not too late...

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Originally by: Valtiatar

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As someone posted on the forums (can't remember who), I think that ccp should stop putting more new content into the game before the current problems have been fixed.

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Originally by: Lady Carcajou

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I am not seeing any fixes for chastrophic crashes!! I am still crashing back to desktop...I have sent my Logserver suff to a GM, I've upgraded to the greatest and latest drivers (totally did not work) I've watched a state of the art computer crash after 5-8 mins of running EVE, thus making the OS very unstable...Come on guys fix this please...I'd like to be able to stay online constantly....

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Originally by: Julia Minus

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Stations still look like garbage in minntar space.

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Originally by: JSquared

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We need a way to ID, filter and keep up with sites we have already found and decided we are not interested in, while we continue to scan down the rest of the system and ID each contact and/or a way to ID every (or most) contacts in the system and then focus on the ones we desire.. rather then taking 3-5 mins per contact just to know what it is.

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/signed signed and signed
Regardless of the DSP change, Unique Identification of signals would dramatically improve scanning in W-Space or busy any clustered signals.
That and a need to see what type a given signal is sooner in the process, to allow you to throw away the result. Personally by the time i know is a gravimetric i may as well finish scanning or i wont know where the dam thing was, and would likely scan it down again. Beside from 25% strength to 100% is a relatively small percentage of my total scanning time.

Originally by: CCP Greyscale

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The deep space probe was unintentionally given too much strength in the initial release - as it is there's very little reason to use combat probes when you have access to the deep space probes. The deep space probe was always intended to fill the slot used by the Observator - high skill requirements, useful mainly for running down deep space sites (hence the name). It was not intended to replace the Multispec's functionality, or to obsolete the combat probes. As such, this is a fairly straightforward fix.

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Originally by: CCP Greyscale

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That said, we're aware of how they're being used currently, we understand the concern about site counts in W-space in particular, and we're working on changes to address this which should turn up in the next patch. I'm not going to give details here because we're still finalizing stuff, but it's being addressed.

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Declining a mission will no longer automatically result in an offer of a new mission.

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Originally by: Pryde Tan

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You mean the t3 sgips of which I have yet to see one? Ah yeah those ships. Really has one been spotted yet. :P

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Fixed an issue that would cause a "100%" scan result to leave you off grid from the actual site.

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Originally by: Hai Guys

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Please add the option back for the old fitting screen. New one is still terribad.

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Originally by: Raven Six

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I has been said a thousand times already but I have to concur once more:

Please bring back the old sound mechanics. It really contributed to the action and immersion. Fighting an all-out battle whilst hearing nothing but chill-out jukebox music isn't really turning me on!

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Originally by: CCP Navigator

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Originally by: Michayel Lyon

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Nothing about sound?

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* The volume of the background sounds in the hanger has been reduced.
* The sound volume for acceleration gates has been turned down a little.

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Originally by: Buckaroo Kamakazee

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Originally by: CCP Navigator

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Originally by: Michayel Lyon

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Nothing about sound?

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* The volume of the background sounds in the hanger has been reduced.
* The sound volume for acceleration gates has been turned down a little.

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What about the other major sound issues like no explosion or missile sounds unless you are zoomed in on your ship? Also, why is there even sounds for the hanger? What purpose, other than a bandwith sucker, does it serve? At least give us the option to turn off that useless sound.

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Originally by: CCP Greyscale

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The deep space probe was unintentionally given too much strength in the initial release - as it is there's very little reason to use combat probes when you have access to the deep space probes. The deep space probe was always intended to fill the slot used by the Observator - high skill requirements, useful mainly for running down deep space sites (hence the name). It was not intended to replace the Multispec's functionality, or to obsolete the combat probes. As such, this is a fairly straightforward fix.

That said, we're aware of how they're being used currently, we understand the concern about site counts in W-space in particular, and we're working on changes to address this which should turn up in the next patch. I'm not going to give details here because we're still finalizing stuff, but it's being addressed.

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Originally by: Isabella Strauss

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Originally by: Rynlam

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Funny, I've trained 24h+ skills and kept tacking things on to the end as soon as the total was under 24h since the queue was implemented, with no problems.

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Same here. Everything works like a charm, and has always

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Originally by: Cyberus

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Edited by: Cyberus on 25/03/2009 15:30:42

Originally by: CCP Greyscale

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The deep space probe was unintentionally given too much strength in the initial release - as it is there's very little reason to use combat probes when you have access to the deep space probes. The deep space probe was always intended to fill the slot used by the Observator - high skill requirements, useful mainly for running down deep space sites (hence the name). It was not intended to replace the Multispec's functionality, or to obsolete the combat probes. As such, this is a fairly straightforward fix.

That said, we're aware of how they're being used currently, we understand the concern about site counts in W-space in particular, and we're working on changes to address this which should turn up in the next patch. I'm not going to give details here because we're still finalizing stuff, but it's being addressed.

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While all this new stuff is cool i still hope that you guys will never run an restarant because not much clients will actualy accept when you will bring them unfinished steaks on plates and fortunaly you will end up by closing your business.

You CCP are just lucky bunch of bastards who is extremly lucky that you have so patient community who still love this game ( do not matter how broken or unfinished it is ) and still wait and hope that you will fix it.

There is no more what i can say at this given moment, even though you have done an awesome job on this Apochripha you are still fail to release accepteble content.

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Originally by: Gordon Colt

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Please make possible to shut down that ugly howl in the AmarrsÆ stations

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Originally by: Lucy Lou

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Originally by: Cyberus

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Edited by: Cyberus on 25/03/2009 15:30:42

Originally by: CCP Greyscale

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The deep space probe was unintentionally given too much strength in the initial release - as it is there's very little reason to use combat probes when you have access to the deep space probes. The deep space probe was always intended to fill the slot used by the Observator - high skill requirements, useful mainly for running down deep space sites (hence the name). It was not intended to replace the Multispec's functionality, or to obsolete the combat probes. As such, this is a fairly straightforward fix.

That said, we're aware of how they're being used currently, we understand the concern about site counts in W-space in particular, and we're working on changes to address this which should turn up in the next patch. I'm not going to give details here because we're still finalizing stuff, but it's being addressed.

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While all this new stuff is cool i still hope that you guys will never run an restarant because not much clients will actualy accept when you will bring them unfinished steaks on plates and fortunaly you will end up by closing your business.

You CCP are just lucky bunch of bastards who is extremly lucky that you have so patient community who still love this game ( do not matter how broken or unfinished it is ) and still wait and hope that you will fix it.

There is no more what i can say at this given moment, even though you have done an awesome job on this Apochripha you are still fail to release accepteble content.

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Go play WoW if you want complete updates.

Oh yeah you have to pay for every update with Blizzard.

You should be thanking CCP for providing these updates and not charging you for access to T2 and T3 items. They could have even made wormholes that would only let in Wrath of The Licky Licky King subscribers through them :)

Thanx CCP, I for one think your Grrrrrrrr8

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Originally by: PJRid****

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Edited by: PJRid**** on 25/03/2009 17:51:46
OH,...And has anyone herd anything from CCP over the POS issue scence the update?

-=+>xXx<+=-

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Originally by: Doktor Feeelgoood

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If only the above two posters actually read the patch notes, they'd know that they are turning down the volume of all station background noises.. :(

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The ice harvester was incorrectly using the strip miner effects. It will now display the correct effect.

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Originally by: Valtiatar

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Edited by: Valtiatar on 25/03/2009 12:28:13
Edited by: Valtiatar on 25/03/2009 12:27:17
Hate to be the whiner but seriously, is there something what is actually BETTER after Apocrypha?

My list for things went worse:

Sounds: WHAT sounds?
Effects: Too much copy-paste effects (seriously, one programmer came up with a cool globular effect what is then applied to EVERYTHING?) Large artillery seems like a pp-gun, in my mind when you fire a 1400mm (or 1200mm) artillery, it would be a huge muzzleblast, now it's pathethic puff of smoke and "pfft".
Warp animation: Old was better
POS shield: see above and copy-paste globular effect with epilepsia-inducing animation.
Jump animation: see copy-paste globular effect.
New fitting window: old was more easy to use and more readable (granted, depends from the person), so much wasted space and usability went out of the window.
Oh, and did I mention the sound?

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Originally by: Tasloi

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Agree with the ton of other people regarding the falloff distance/muffled sounds issue. This needs to be fixed asap. Correct me if i'm wrong but I haven't even seen an acknowledgement that this is being worked on at all which is worrying to say the least.

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Originally by: Buckaroo Kamakazee

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Originally by: Doktor Feeelgoood

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If only the above two posters actually read the patch notes, they'd know that they are turning down the volume of all station background noises.. :(

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And if you actually read their posts you would see that they want the sound in stations eliminated, not just turned down. It serves no purpose in the game than to suck bandwith.

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Originally by: Erimenes

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Edited by: Erimenes on 24/03/2009 15:07:02
I was interested to see this one:

"Updated the capital ship collision mechanic to lessen bumping issues currently being experienced by some players"

I recently lost a carrier due to excessive bumpage, but just put it down to experience and bought another. If, however, there has been an issue [read: bug], then I might try a reimbursement petition. Can anyone from CCP provide a bit more information about this one, and whether such a petition is likely to be worth the effort?

Loc.

Edit: How many more times is the forum going to forget who I am!!!? This is Loc Maythan - Erimines is just a throw away alt that I have not got round to throwing away yet! I will terminate the alt to stop this from happening again.

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Originally by: Morra Dagen

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Also some times when passing a gate, the data in the overview is mostly the same 3 jumps down the path.

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Originally by: Marion Iceek

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Originally by: Buckaroo Kamakazee

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Originally by: Doktor Feeelgoood

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If only the above two posters actually read the patch notes, they'd know that they are turning down the volume of all station background noises.. :(

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And if you actually read their posts you would see that they want the sound in stations eliminated, not just turned down. It serves no purpose in the game than to suck bandwith.

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And if you actually had the slightest clue about how stuff works, you'd know that a sound which is stored on your machine certainly doesn't 'suck bandwith' when being played...

Oh and yeah, bring back the old sound system or fix this garbage - I'm getting sick of hearing nothing as soon as I zoom out slightly when running missions. :/

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