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Laura Rampart	Posted - 2009.03.24 19:17:00 - [301] Edited by: Laura Rampart on 24/03/2009 19:18:10 Originally by: Kheldon Fel Originally by: Laura Rampart So now, if you actually READ what the GM posted, you'd see that: -NOT THE FIRST TIME -WILL BE DONE FOR OTHERS if the same conditions are met Stain Empire, ARSED and a dozen other corps/alliances who were denied similar name changes would like to have a word with you. Again you fail. Same conditions. Bob was the first Alliance to be disbanded by a spy. It needs special conditions!
Aetec Raa	Posted - 2009.03.24 19:18:00 - [302] Originally by: Avon Originally by: Aetec Raa I do find it suspicious that every charge of favoritism that I have seen has involved BoB somehow. Who could possibly benefit from those constant allegations? Even if they prove unfounded, mud sticks, right? I'm sure no part of the Eve community would even consider faking offense in order to further their own agenda. Unpossible. Avon, I understand your meaning and I do agree that it is easily possible. The problem is that I have yet to see a claim against BoB proven as unfounded. As unfortunate as it may be, the T20 incident is the first thing I think of when I hear the name BoB. It really was something serious when it comes to the ruleset of the universe we inhabit. In my mind, where there is smoke there is fire, especially in an area that has been burned before.
Hanabi Kazan GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.24 19:18:00 - [303] Originally by: Moonlight Express Originally by: Twoside Originally by: Moonlight Express Why there was not this kind of outrage from goons when members of NC were caught exploiting moons for years that produced most of NCs Titan and capital fleet? What's worst? Name change or exploits of trillions of isk? They should take away all of those ships that were produced from those exploited founds first and then they can take away the name. Deal? proof or stfu.. ohwait there isnt any as the ones guilty got banned. Futhermore post with your main, coward. Oh, so the 70 accounts that got banned never produced anything and NC members never received capitals from those people? 70 accounts was just a drop in the bucket of all of NC members that benefited from those exploits and if you think otherwise then you are dumber then you sound. But it does not matter to you that they cheated because it benefited you. Oh, and while you are at it, why donÆt you ask your NC buddies to stop posting with alts as well. Hypocrite. the same arguments could be made about t20's bpos nice derail though
Laura Rampart	Posted - 2009.03.24 19:20:00 - [304] Originally by: Hanabi Kazan Originally by: Moonlight Express Oh, so the 70 accounts that got banned never produced anything and NC members never received capitals from those people? 70 accounts was just a drop in the bucket of all of NC members that benefited from those exploits and if you think otherwise then you are dumber then you sound. But it does not matter to you that they cheated because it benefited you. Oh, and while you are at it, why donÆt you ask your NC buddies to stop posting with alts as well. Hypocrite. the same arguments could be made about t20's bpos nice derail though I'm sure T20's BPOs paid for several cap ships, titans, whole POS infrastructure, other pets and mercenaries
Thercon Jair Minmatar InQuest Ascension Skunk-Works	Posted - 2009.03.24 19:21:00 - [305] Originally by: Aetec Raa Originally by: Karezan I find all the ***ing amusing because I strongly believe the only reason for it is because Goonswarm (and friends) feels slighted for not being able to grief BoB as much as possible. If this really upsets you this much, quit. If you still believe CCP clearly favors BoB above all else, despite the long history and many many threads like this about different issues regarding BoB favoritism, I doubt this one will make the difference. The only thing that will is showing them how you feel by costing them money. But you won't do that, so I guess spamming is the next best option. If you were my employer, and I just never showed up for work, would you keep spamming me with emails telling me how upset you are that I never show up, but keep paying me anyway, expecting that one day I'll feel bad and change my mind? That's similar to what's happening here. CCP has it's history of nepotism, and says they've dealt with that and now they are unbiased. If you honestly believe they lied, despite such a long history and so much drama surrounding the T20 case and other incidents, why do you think this thread will change anything? Especially when this is a very minor incident compared to the T20 one. For me, these "vote with your wallet" arguments are the weakest of all. We all play Eve for a reason. Mostly because we are tired of the same ole t we see from other MMO's. In all of the time that I have followed news from Eve the only accusations of favoritism that I have seen involves the same alliance, BoB. It might be that one certain other power within eve likes to point their fingers at BoB in every way possible, and, since they incidentally happen to have the most members of all alliances, they surely have the numbers to make their opinion be heard. Real men do it the hard way: fly Minmatar!*
parthon Laughing Leprechauns Corporation Lotto Syndicate	Posted - 2009.03.24 19:22:00 - [306] please ccp can i have a name change too from parthon to Parthon thanks PS i have an alt in BOB (the remake)
Palmer Eldritch Ultrapolite Socialites GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.24 19:25:00 - [307] Originally by: Thercon Jair It might be that one certain other power within eve likes to point their fingers at BoB in every way possible, and, since they incidentally happen to have the most members of all alliances, they surely have the numbers to make their opinion be heard. There's some truth in that. We probably care more about BoB cheating than other people. But in fairness, I think that if Goonswarm had been caught cheating in the game repeatedly, people like BoB and Skunk-Works would probably be the loudest to complain about us. ------------ Coranor you all know i can't stand most of the gbc but while we have them we may as well give them something challenging where they can actually learn a bit Dian fair point
Hanabi Kazan GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.24 19:25:00 - [308] Originally by: Laura Rampart Originally by: Hanabi Kazan Originally by: Moonlight Express Oh, so the 70 accounts that got banned never produced anything and NC members never received capitals from those people? 70 accounts was just a drop in the bucket of all of NC members that benefited from those exploits and if you think otherwise then you are dumber then you sound. But it does not matter to you that they cheated because it benefited you. Oh, and while you are at it, why donÆt you ask your NC buddies to stop posting with alts as well. Hypocrite. the same arguments could be made about t20's bpos nice derail though I'm sure T20's BPOs paid for several cap ships, titans, whole POS infrastructure, other pets and mercenaries youre right, im glad you agree
Karezan	Posted - 2009.03.24 19:26:00 - [309] Originally by: Aetec Raa Originally by: Karezan I find all the ***ing amusing because I strongly believe the only reason for it is because Goonswarm (and friends) feels slighted for not being able to grief BoB as much as possible. If this really upsets you this much, quit. If you still believe CCP clearly favors BoB above all else, despite the long history and many many threads like this about different issues regarding BoB favoritism, I doubt this one will make the difference. The only thing that will is showing them how you feel by costing them money. But you won't do that, so I guess spamming is the next best option. If you were my employer, and I just never showed up for work, would you keep spamming me with emails telling me how upset you are that I never show up, but keep paying me anyway, expecting that one day I'll feel bad and change my mind? That's similar to what's happening here. CCP has it's history of nepotism, and says they've dealt with that and now they are unbiased. If you honestly believe they lied, despite such a long history and so much drama surrounding the T20 case and other incidents, why do you think this thread will change anything? Especially when this is a very minor incident compared to the T20 one. For me, these "vote with your wallet" arguments are the weakest of all. We all play Eve for a reason. Mostly because we are tired of the same ole *t we see from other MMO's. In all of the time that I have followed news from Eve the only accusations of favoritism that I have seen involves the same alliance, BoB. I have never met a member of the Goons or BoB in game or real life. I really don't care if one defeats the other or if they gang up on themselves and kill their own titans. The problem for me stems from CCP's willingness to change the rules as they see fit to benefit a single alliance. The option to vote with my wallet is always there. CCP can't control that. I would rather wait and see if they handle this according to the rules that they themselves have put forth. If they don't then I am always free to vote with my wallet when I feel a reasonable amount of time for them to deal with the situation has passed. I do find it suspicious that every charge of favoritism that I have seen has involved BoB somehow. The issue here is that last time, it was true, there was favoritism. The outcry it caused was huge, people were outraged (and for a good reason). They promised to deal with this, they promised this would never happen again. They assured their player base, what happened was completely unacceptable, and they will take all the steps required to make sure this can never happen again. Now here we are, several years later, and people are saying CCP has not changed. CCP has not taken these steps. CCP is just as bad now as it was then. If you honestly believe this, how can you, considering just how upset the player base was last time, and after so many years, think that this time around, complaining to them will change things for real? Mind you, I don't believe CCP is still "corrupt" like it was last time, and I don't think many others in here believe that either, they're just trying to start something. Still, if you really believe that they're still as corrupt as ever, then I don't understand how you can expect to see changes this time, after all the promises made last time.
5pinDizzy	Posted - 2009.03.24 19:27:00 - [310] Everything's a new rule under 'special conditions' when its BOB. if you disagree with me then you should probably post a response and stop reading my signature.

Eventy One Magellan Exploration and Survey	Posted - 2009.03.24 19:29:00 - [311] Edited by: Eventy One on 24/03/2009 19:29:27 Originally by: 5pinDizzy Everything's a new rule under 'special conditions' when its BOB. But its not BOB! Its BOB reloaded! Quite different, really.
Aetec Raa	Posted - 2009.03.24 19:31:00 - [312] Originally by: Thercon Jair Originally by: Aetec Raa Originally by: Karezan I find all the ***ing amusing because I strongly believe the only reason for it is because Goonswarm (and friends) feels slighted for not being able to grief BoB as much as possible. If this really upsets you this much, quit. If you still believe CCP clearly favors BoB above all else, despite the long history and many many threads like this about different issues regarding BoB favoritism, I doubt this one will make the difference. The only thing that will is showing them how you feel by costing them money. But you won't do that, so I guess spamming is the next best option. If you were my employer, and I just never showed up for work, would you keep spamming me with emails telling me how upset you are that I never show up, but keep paying me anyway, expecting that one day I'll feel bad and change my mind? That's similar to what's happening here. CCP has it's history of nepotism, and says they've dealt with that and now they are unbiased. If you honestly believe they lied, despite such a long history and so much drama surrounding the T20 case and other incidents, why do you think this thread will change anything? Especially when this is a very minor incident compared to the T20 one. For me, these "vote with your wallet" arguments are the weakest of all. We all play Eve for a reason. Mostly because we are tired of the same ole *t we see from other MMO's. In all of the time that I have followed news from Eve the only accusations of favoritism that I have seen involves the same alliance, BoB. It might be that one certain other power within eve likes to point their fingers at BoB in every way possible, and, since they incidentally happen to have the most members of all alliances, they surely have the numbers to make their opinion be heard. Again Thercon, you might have hit the nail on the head. I don't have the time invested in this situation to make it personal for me. After T20, CCP touching BoB with even a 10 foot pole brings suspicion. What I don't understand is why CCP didn't remove themselves completely from the BoB/Goons battle for anything other than an outright rules violation. This touchy/feely crap from the fringes just stokes doubt about their commitment to being neutral.
Ironnight Caldari x13 X13 Alliance	Posted - 2009.03.24 19:31:00 - [313] Originally by: Twoside I'm not sure what's more pathetic, X13 alliance having their heads up their masters asscakes or incompetent ccp employees making their whole company look bad... over and over again. Sad :( We are our own masters little goon pet, now go get some more space for your goon masters, while they flood the forums with more mindless crap. The really sad part is that we are in the same area as one of the biggest roleplaying alliances(CVA) and they dont come close in taking the game as seriously as you people, how f'ing sad is that. They're like 'oh **** son, its a trap Doomsday
Dire Radiant	Posted - 2009.03.24 19:32:00 - [314] Originally by: LaVista Vista Originally by: clone 1 Originally by: Iamien One of the advantages of them joining Kenzuko was that they got sov sooner. One of the downsides is they didnt have the name they wanted. If they would had waited longer, they could of had this name in the first place. Reverse it CCP. Quoted for the cold calculated truth. This. Gary Johnston: But, I thought you weren't gay? Spottswoode: This isn't about sex, Gary, it's about trust!
Kheldon Fel	Posted - 2009.03.24 19:33:00 - [315] Originally by: Laura Rampart Edited by: Laura Rampart on 24/03/2009 19:18:10 Originally by: Kheldon Fel Originally by: Laura Rampart So now, if you actually READ what the GM posted, you'd see that: -NOT THE FIRST TIME -WILL BE DONE FOR OTHERS if the same conditions are met Stain Empire, ARSED and a dozen other corps/alliances who were denied similar name changes would like to have a word with you. Again you fail. Same conditions. Bob was the first Alliance to be disbanded by a spy. It needs special conditions! See: ARSED. Similar condition.
Captain Pompous Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It	Posted - 2009.03.24 19:33:00 - [316] GM Grimmi, I utterly despise you and your corrupt ilk. This is frankly unacceptable and, given the precedent set by the T20 incident (not ALL Devs/GMs/whatever are corrupt, but the fact that SOME are makes me question the REST of you) **** why do I even bother with this game Yes, my name is Pompous. Yes, this has been designed for maximum deliberate effect. Sweet disclaimer eh
parthon Laughing Leprechauns Corporation Lotto Syndicate	Posted - 2009.03.24 19:35:00 - [317] a. If a name is deemed inappropriate, GMÆs may be able to change the characterÆs name in some circumstances. This is solely at the discretion of CCP and/or its representatives based on, but not limited to, account and player history and the severity of the violation. There is no guarantee that the name will be changed. Only character names that are deemed as inappropriate are eligible for a possible name change. Names will not be changed for any other reason. taken from http://www.eveonline.com/pnp/namepolicy.asp
Varaxian Amarr Corp 1 Allstars PuPPet MasTers	Posted - 2009.03.24 19:35:00 - [318] Goons working around the clock - EPIC lol
Doc Fury	Posted - 2009.03.24 19:36:00 - [319] It basically boils down to this: Originally by: GM Grimmi Stuff... ...All alliances are equal, but some alliances are more equal than others... ...Stuff The posted rules and policies only seem to apply to alliances who are outside of the original Band of Developers. The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'no.'
parthon Laughing Leprechauns Corporation Lotto Syndicate	Posted - 2009.03.24 19:36:00 - [320] does the name "KenZoku" upset anyone?

Eventy One Magellan Exploration and Survey	Posted - 2009.03.24 19:37:00 - [321] Originally by: Kheldon Fel See: ARSED. Similar condition. Which is the same as saying .. this case is unique, but we're setting a precedent because we're now going to have to honour other requests that meet the same conditions. This is still a unique case, until another Alliance comes along that meets the same conditions. Semantics really. Have any other alliances prior to BoB/BoB reloaded been renamed?
Gian Bal Minmatar Laughing Leprechauns Corporation Lotto Syndicate	Posted - 2009.03.24 19:38:00 - [322] I'll take 20 titans, 16 T2 Bpos, 160 T3 cruisers, 32 hail mary's, and a name change. Oh and can you throw in some pink handcuffs and a mixed smattering of whitewash, level playing fields, and 2 of every faction ship in game. thanks lufs & hugz, Uncle Bob
Kheldon Fel	Posted - 2009.03.24 19:40:00 - [323] Originally by: Varaxian Goons working around the clock - EPIC lol Let me explain something called timezones to you, and how people live in different parts of the world.
Bagdon GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.03.24 19:41:00 - [324] Originally by: Twoside I'm not sure what's more pathetic, X13 alliance having their heads up their masters asscakes or incompetent ccp employees making their whole company look bad... over and over again. Sad :( For me, the most pathetic part is the stupid attempt to spin this in the OP and CCPs lack of understanding that their customer base is filled with nitpicking nerds and forum warriors who will pick any spin to pieces if it's not 100% factual. What most likely happened was that some junior GM happened to pick up the petition and made a stupid mistake of not knowing the rules, thought that it looked harmless enough and just did it instead of escalating. Outrage happens and instead of smacking the junior GM in the head, yelling "don't do this again" and then coming to the forums saying "sorry, mistake, we'll try to make it not happen again", they try to spin it with bull**** that took 10 seconds to pick apart. Here are some responses that would be received much better: "We were drunk." "We decided to mess with you for fun." "Oops" "The person who did this no longer works for us." "We're changing the policy, free renames for everyone." <publish a youtube video of a GM jumping out of the window> "We lost a bet." "We arranged a cage fight between a BoB GM and a goon developer, the goon lost."
Nova Fox Gallente Novafox Shipyards	Posted - 2009.03.24 19:41:00 - [325] Instead of a whining why dont you go ahead and kick thier rear ends, im sure the total and utter anhilation of the new allaince is so much more effective. ============= Pre Order your Sisters of Eve ship today
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2009.03.24 19:45:00 - [326] Originally by: Bagdon For me, the most pathetic part is the stupid attempt to spin this in the OP and CCPs lack of understanding that their customer base is filled with nitpicking nerds and forum warriors who will pick any spin to pieces if it's not 100% factual. What most likely happened was that some junior GM happened to pick up the petition and made a stupid mistake of not knowing the rules, thought that it looked harmless enough and just did it instead of escalating. Outrage happens and instead of smacking the junior GM in the head, yelling "don't do this again" and then coming to the forums saying "sorry, mistake, we'll try to make it not happen again", they try to spin it with bull**** that took 10 seconds to pick apart. QFT - DesuSigs
Brugar	Posted - 2009.03.24 19:48:00 - [327] Originally by: Nova Fox Instead of a whining why dont you go ahead and kick thier rear ends, im sure the total and utter anhilation of the new allaince is so much more effective. While that sounds logical, it still won't matter. CCP doesn't like to loose at their own game, so they will come up with another reason to change their own rules so they can win at something else. We are not ment to win this game and CCP will see to it. I can't wait for the next spaceship game to come out. Hopefully they won't cheat.
Eventy One Magellan Exploration and Survey	Posted - 2009.03.24 19:51:00 - [328] Originally by: Bagdon For me, the most pathetic part is the stupid attempt to spin this in the OP and CCPs lack of understanding that their customer base is filled with nitpicking nerds and forum warriors who will pick any spin to pieces if it's not 100% factual. What most likely happened was that some junior GM happened to pick up the petition and made a stupid mistake of not knowing the rules, thought that it looked harmless enough and just did it instead of escalating. Outrage happens and instead of smacking the junior GM in the head, yelling "don't do this again" and then coming to the forums saying "sorry, mistake, we'll try to make it not happen again", they try to spin it with bull** that took 10 seconds to pick apart. Interesting Post. First para complains about nitpicking nerds and forum warriors that pick up any spin that's not 100% factual ... .. and goes on in the second para to speculate about what most likely happened. Is that speculation 100% factual or are you a forum warrior that is picking up on a spin?**
Quaristice	Posted - 2009.03.24 19:53:00 - [329] Edited by: Quaristice on 24/03/2009 19:53:58 Personally "band of brothers reloaded" is the *****est name you could ever think of. It doesnt even sound like an "alliance" name. More like a movie name or a video game. Ken was much much better. Whose idea was it to put the akward "reloaded" at the end? Did they just see The Matrix for the first time?
Donna Maria Amarr	Posted - 2009.03.24 19:55:00 - [330] Edited by: Donna Maria on 24/03/2009 19:55:30 " GMÆs may be able to change the characterÆs name in some circumstances. This is solely at the discretion of CCP and/or its representatives based on, but not limited to" ..." There is no guarantee that the name will be changed. " "Player-run corporations, factions, organizations and player-owned items within the EVE Online game world are also subject to these rules and policies. " What part of *"Solely at the discretion of CCP do you not understand.* Be happy they gave an explanation, if you don't like it you can always reprocess and leave. (Oh and can I have your stuffs?) Im the girl momma warned you about..



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