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Spurty
Caldari
Amok.
Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.03.24 19:59:00 -
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falcon and rook look/feel backwards.
ECM ships only paperthin as people don't fit any tank to them. Drop one of those ECM modules and fit some shield extenders.
Any one fitting a rapier with all mid slots filled with webs and tps is going to be laughed at, why not laugh at caldari as well?
 Originally by: Butter Dog
I think you'll find that 10 seconds > 1 month
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Spurty
Caldari
Amok.
Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.03.25 09:41:00 -
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Edited by: Spurty on 25/03/2009 09:46:06
Awkward!
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<fittings>
<fitting name="ecm nerf">
<description value=""/>
<shipType value="Falcon"/>
<hardware slot="low slot 2" type="1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I"/>
<hardware slot="med slot 6" type="ECM - White Noise Generator II"/>
<hardware slot="med slot 1" type="Invulnerability Field II"/>
<hardware slot="hi slot 0" type="Heavy Missile Launcher II"/>
<hardware slot="hi slot 2" type="Cynosural Field Generator I"/>
<hardware slot="med slot 3" type="ECM - Phase Inverter II"/>
<hardware slot="med slot 4" type="ECM - Spatial Destabilizer II"/>
<hardware slot="med slot 5" type="ECM - Ion Field Projector II"/>
<hardware slot="low slot 0" type="Signal Distortion Amplifier II"/>
<hardware slot="rig slot 0" type="Signal Disruption Amplifier I"/>
<hardware slot="hi slot 1" type="Heavy Missile Launcher II"/>
<hardware slot="med slot 0" type="Photon Scattering Field II"/>
<hardware slot="low slot 1" type="Small Armor Repairer II"/>
<hardware slot="med slot 2" type="Large Shield Extender II"/>
<hardware slot="hi slot 3" type="Covert Ops Cloaking Device II"/>
</fitting>
</fittings>
Falcon with a hybrid tank! Something is screwy with module slot layout with this proposition.
Note: there is no MWD on this fit, have to sacrifice large chunk of tank to fit. Ugh
Originally by: Butter Dog
I think you'll find that 10 seconds > 1 month
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Spurty
Caldari
Amok.
Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.03.25 13:49:00 -
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Originally by: GrumpE
ECM is now balanced with long-range snipers. If you lower the ECM range, will you have to lower the sniper range?
What is with people bringing up this single 'encounter type' as a defense to 250km Ewar ?
If falcons are getting targeted, they aren't jamming and probably warped off and cloaked before any ship got within 180kms of them (nano-rebalance makes em nice and safe).
Thats just disturbing lol.
Someone else already pointed out that if you want to keep this, give all other races equal range with their Ewar to counter every 'encounter type'.
CCP does need to do something to ECM, its outrageous and has been for years, only we could get ships up to 30km/s to counter it. Now we can't cover 250kms in under 20 seconds.
20 seconds is all it takes to primary some ships if you have enough friends.
And for the 'paper thin' tank tards, put a 1600mm plate on. Nice hitpoint buffer there. Certainly not paper thin if you don't go full tard with the midslots all filled with Ewar.
No other Ewar ship can afford that, so welcome to the party!
Looking forward to this.
However this said, the Rook is clearly the brawler CCP.
Please just write a simulation and do 1000 battles automatically and see which survives longer, falcon or rook up close!
Originally by: Butter Dog
I think you'll find that 10 seconds > 1 month
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Spurty
Caldari
Amok.
Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.03.28 03:59:00 -
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Originally by: Cord Cutter
Please Think about this carefully, it's starting to remind me of what you have done to scanning by re-aranging the strengh's.. let ecm have a role or it won't even be used and it will die completly, who needs ecm the most ? people that want to avoid pvp, or protect investments thru gatecamps? I am not claiming to know the answer just asking that you think it thru all possible perspective
Quite possibly the most insane comment ever read. Assuming you are trying to troll and I'm too tired to find the humor.
Falcons are in practically every P V P gang larger than 5 people.
I can't recall who said it, but someone rather comically / wisely said "Who tries solo pvp without a falcon alt these days?". Just a sign of the times.
All cruisers need their targeting range capped at around 120kms max.
Frigs 20-80
cruisers 40-120
battlecruisers I think are lower than sniper hacs and recons
battleships 60-250
Having cruisers effective at x2 to x4 further than the average RR BS is iffy.
As for the "Doing this nerf breaks the rock/paper/scissors of eve pvp", you do know that the most effective counter to a Falcon is Another Falcon right?
So thats rock/paper/scissors out the window (Look out below!)
Originally by: Butter Dog
I think you'll find that 10 seconds > 1 month
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