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Thomas Epsilon	Posted - 2004.08.20 08:24:00 - [151] Originally by: sutty CFS bore me, you dont even deserve to have any regions in this game. Basically your carebears who cant defend yourselfs. IF YOU WANT THE STATION SHOOT IT AND IT WILL BE YOURS. Also allying with CA would be kinda stupid in my opinion since for now everything will be good but when they are bored, they will just start shooting you again. I don't agree with the way you said it, but I agree with you that CFS should be able to standup for its space.
Thomas Epsilon	Posted - 2004.08.20 08:24:00 - [152] Originally by: sutty CFS bore me, you dont even deserve to have any regions in this game. Basically your carebears who cant defend yourselfs. IF YOU WANT THE STATION SHOOT IT AND IT WILL BE YOURS. Also allying with CA would be kinda stupid in my opinion since for now everything will be good but when they are bored, they will just start shooting you again. I don't agree with the way you said it, but I agree with you that CFS should be able to standup for its space.
Alkad Mzu	Posted - 2004.08.20 09:31:00 - [153] Originally by: SixKiller Genco has decided to leave that area, we still have a few things to clean out still, but we will not continue to participate in this charade. We do not feel any ill will against FA, it is quite clear what they are doing and how they have done it. We understand the CA position. They want to shrink the FA sphere of influence, and deprive them of the revinue gained from the station tax. Corps and aliances operating in the region that defend the stations for FA do so at there own expense and I am sure the amusement of FA. CA can not stay there forever as it is a little far from CA space. Although I am sure they will once again become the army of darkness and camp the A2 cooridor. FA is closer and when they feel like makeing an example can blob in and do the genocide thing. My advise to DMSA, the corps operating from 5-6 etc. etc. Is let FA and CA hammer away at each other, while CFS passes laws suggested to them by there FA overloards. Perhaps when Shiva comes out and the aliances shrink down to systems instead of regions, something else will possible. Untill then you are pawns in a much larger game. I take it we can consider this a retraction of Genco's application to join FA then. Good luck to you, wherever you choose to go. ________________________________________________ Head of Public Relations, Fountain Alliance
Alkad Mzu	Posted - 2004.08.20 09:31:00 - [154] Originally by: SixKiller Genco has decided to leave that area, we still have a few things to clean out still, but we will not continue to participate in this charade. We do not feel any ill will against FA, it is quite clear what they are doing and how they have done it. We understand the CA position. They want to shrink the FA sphere of influence, and deprive them of the revinue gained from the station tax. Corps and aliances operating in the region that defend the stations for FA do so at there own expense and I am sure the amusement of FA. CA can not stay there forever as it is a little far from CA space. Although I am sure they will once again become the army of darkness and camp the A2 cooridor. FA is closer and when they feel like makeing an example can blob in and do the genocide thing. My advise to DMSA, the corps operating from 5-6 etc. etc. Is let FA and CA hammer away at each other, while CFS passes laws suggested to them by there FA overloards. Perhaps when Shiva comes out and the aliances shrink down to systems instead of regions, something else will possible. Untill then you are pawns in a much larger game. I take it we can consider this a retraction of Genco's application to join FA then. Good luck to you, wherever you choose to go. ________________________________________________ Head of Public Relations, Fountain Alliance
Loka	Posted - 2004.08.20 09:31:00 - [155] Originally by: sutty CFS bore me, you dont even deserve to have any regions in this game. Basically your carebears who cant defend yourselfs. IF YOU WANT THE STATION SHOOT IT AND IT WILL BE YOURS. Also allying with CA would be kinda stupid in my opinion since for now everything will be good but when they are bored, they will just start shooting you again. Till my time in CFS. Januar 04 - May 04 i havent seen ANY CFS UNDER MY command fleeing from anybody. We are not the strongest, we are not the expirienced, but we are the one fighting even outnumberd. m0o is a well expirienced corp when it comes to a fight, no question about it. But i hate your log off tactics, i hate that you are pirates and i hate that mostly lone pirates were killed by you. The CFS pilots where one of the braves pilots i ever flew with. Even knowing they are fighting a hopeless fight, they do it. Tell me same about some one else. _____________________________________ Dead or Alive
Loka	Posted - 2004.08.20 09:31:00 - [156] Originally by: sutty CFS bore me, you dont even deserve to have any regions in this game. Basically your carebears who cant defend yourselfs. IF YOU WANT THE STATION SHOOT IT AND IT WILL BE YOURS. Also allying with CA would be kinda stupid in my opinion since for now everything will be good but when they are bored, they will just start shooting you again. Till my time in CFS. Januar 04 - May 04 i havent seen ANY CFS UNDER MY command fleeing from anybody. We are not the strongest, we are not the expirienced, but we are the one fighting even outnumberd. m0o is a well expirienced corp when it comes to a fight, no question about it. But i hate your log off tactics, i hate that you are pirates and i hate that mostly lone pirates were killed by you. The CFS pilots where one of the braves pilots i ever flew with. Even knowing they are fighting a hopeless fight, they do it. Tell me same about some one else. _____________________________________ Dead or Alive
DJTheBaron	Posted - 2004.08.20 09:40:00 - [157] Big get lots of attention from ccp, wether it be apoc giveaways where the money aparantly went to their big lottery and increased ticket sales, getting the storyline attention, or fa getting the storyline and actually fighting polaris players! those gits get all the perks, but they use their subordinate alliances as heat sheilds and then tax them for it. FA cant defend their own space, why would they defend yours? __________________________________________________ Scum, your all scum.
DJTheBaron	Posted - 2004.08.20 09:40:00 - [158] Big get lots of attention from ccp, wether it be apoc giveaways where the money aparantly went to their big lottery and increased ticket sales, getting the storyline attention, or fa getting the storyline and actually fighting polaris players! those gits get all the perks, but they use their subordinate alliances as heat sheilds and then tax them for it. FA cant defend their own space, why would they defend yours? __________________________________________________ Scum, your all scum.
Walking Contradiction	Posted - 2004.08.20 09:46:00 - [159] Originally by: DJTheBaron Big get lots of attention from ccp, wether it be apoc giveaways where the money aparantly went to their big lottery and increased ticket sales, getting the storyline attention, or fa getting the storyline and actually fighting polaris players! those gits get all the perks, but they use their subordinate alliances as heat sheilds and then tax them for it. FA cant defend their own space, why would they defend yours? Maybe because FA didn't tell the event coordinator to "f*ck off from our belt, intruder".
Walking Contradiction	Posted - 2004.08.20 09:46:00 - [160] Originally by: DJTheBaron Big get lots of attention from ccp, wether it be apoc giveaways where the money aparantly went to their big lottery and increased ticket sales, getting the storyline attention, or fa getting the storyline and actually fighting polaris players! those gits get all the perks, but they use their subordinate alliances as heat sheilds and then tax them for it. FA cant defend their own space, why would they defend yours? Maybe because FA didn't tell the event coordinator to "f*ck off from our belt, intruder".

Tiberius Caesar	Posted - 2004.08.20 10:02:00 - [161] Originally by: DJTheBaron Big get lots of attention from ccp, wether it be apoc giveaways where the money aparantly went to their big lottery and increased ticket sales, getting the storyline attention, or fa getting the storyline and actually fighting polaris players! That has always bothered me......
Tiberius Caesar	Posted - 2004.08.20 10:02:00 - [162] Originally by: DJTheBaron Big get lots of attention from ccp, wether it be apoc giveaways where the money aparantly went to their big lottery and increased ticket sales, getting the storyline attention, or fa getting the storyline and actually fighting polaris players! That has always bothered me......
Tiberius Caesar	Posted - 2004.08.20 10:06:00 - [163] Originally by: Walking Contradiction Originally by: DJTheBaron Big get lots of attention from ccp, wether it be apoc giveaways where the money aparantly went to their big lottery and increased ticket sales, getting the storyline attention, or fa getting the storyline and actually fighting polaris players! those gits get all the perks, but they use their subordinate alliances as heat sheilds and then tax them for it. FA cant defend their own space, why would they defend yours? Maybe because FA didn't tell the event coordinator to "f*ck off from our belt, intruder". Umm, last I checked CA and FA arent the only alliances in Eve....... Please stop posting with alts....
Tiberius Caesar	Posted - 2004.08.20 10:06:00 - [164] Originally by: Walking Contradiction Originally by: DJTheBaron Big get lots of attention from ccp, wether it be apoc giveaways where the money aparantly went to their big lottery and increased ticket sales, getting the storyline attention, or fa getting the storyline and actually fighting polaris players! those gits get all the perks, but they use their subordinate alliances as heat sheilds and then tax them for it. FA cant defend their own space, why would they defend yours? Maybe because FA didn't tell the event coordinator to "f*ck off from our belt, intruder". Umm, last I checked CA and FA arent the only alliances in Eve....... Please stop posting with alts....
Reverend Necrona	Posted - 2004.08.20 10:46:00 - [165] Originally by: Johnny Cochran Originally by: Kelly O'Connor Originally by: Johnny Cochran They let u go there, dont forget that they could take the area with ease, some ppl just dont know when to be greatful for what they have, the station will benefit u minimally its like what 2.5% tax? thats better then in empire (and probably less then 2.5% if ur in DSMA) If you're new, how do you know this? I know that FA only defend fountain with difficulty. I go there... (tho i get alt crap all the freaking time...) but the point im trying to make is that considering all the ppl allowed to operate in the area its best for it to belong to an outside power. Also what good are u doing defending station when it gets taken anyway, and do u take the station back from CA or do they leave and then u take it? b/c fa can easily do that themselves im sure... Wait... I smell something.... I smell... FA ALT! BUT ONOS U SAID U AINT! SO YOU MUST NOT BE!!! Reverend Necrona
Reverend Necrona	Posted - 2004.08.20 10:46:00 - [166] Originally by: Johnny Cochran Originally by: Kelly O'Connor Originally by: Johnny Cochran They let u go there, dont forget that they could take the area with ease, some ppl just dont know when to be greatful for what they have, the station will benefit u minimally its like what 2.5% tax? thats better then in empire (and probably less then 2.5% if ur in DSMA) If you're new, how do you know this? I know that FA only defend fountain with difficulty. I go there... (tho i get alt crap all the freaking time...) but the point im trying to make is that considering all the ppl allowed to operate in the area its best for it to belong to an outside power. Also what good are u doing defending station when it gets taken anyway, and do u take the station back from CA or do they leave and then u take it? b/c fa can easily do that themselves im sure... Wait... I smell something.... I smell... FA ALT! BUT ONOS U SAID U AINT! SO YOU MUST NOT BE!!! Reverend Necrona
fugazii	Posted - 2004.08.20 11:06:00 - [167] Originally by: DeGrand Its all about isk...cant see any other reason. And umm...tbh its a valid one..everyone wants isk.. Wanna take it? take it...but I dont think we (FA) will give it up freely..so expect a presence there when you do. I think you guys deserve those stations btw...but life aint fair.. All boils down to this: Might makes right. Im ofc not talking for the FA.. o no u better hide an fa stating thier opinions on the forums will get u kicked
fugazii	Posted - 2004.08.20 11:06:00 - [168] Originally by: DeGrand Its all about isk...cant see any other reason. And umm...tbh its a valid one..everyone wants isk.. Wanna take it? take it...but I dont think we (FA) will give it up freely..so expect a presence there when you do. I think you guys deserve those stations btw...but life aint fair.. All boils down to this: Might makes right. Im ofc not talking for the FA.. o no u better hide an fa stating thier opinions on the forums will get u kicked
Rattman	Posted - 2004.08.20 11:07:00 - [169] Edited by: Rattman on 20/08/2004 12:11:08 Edited by: Rattman on 20/08/2004 11:09:26 This is completely unofficial and my own opinion Originally by: AvanCade On topic: FA should get the ** out ! And Setana should not own the station as well. We have seen them as many times as we have seen FA. And now we almost have FA out, and then SA comes claiming stuff. Setenta** do not own the stations, we moved in and controlled them with agreement of the involved parties. We would not have done this without the permission of all the involved parties We consider many of the corps involved to be freinds and dont wish to see them start shooting each other. Hopefully an agreement can be found between all parties and the stations can be returned to someone else control. Because no one wants to have a chaotic space on thier border For the reference we have no refining tax and no docking fees so we are making no isk of these stations and they will most likely cost us more to defend these stations than we will ever make out of it Rattman All opinions, rambling or not, expressed here are my own and not that of my corp or alliance
Rattman	Posted - 2004.08.20 11:07:00 - [170] Edited by: Rattman on 20/08/2004 12:11:08 Edited by: Rattman on 20/08/2004 11:09:26 This is completely unofficial and my own opinion Originally by: AvanCade On topic: FA should get the ** out ! And Setana should not own the station as well. We have seen them as many times as we have seen FA. And now we almost have FA out, and then SA comes claiming stuff. Setenta** do not own the stations, we moved in and controlled them with agreement of the involved parties. We would not have done this without the permission of all the involved parties We consider many of the corps involved to be freinds and dont wish to see them start shooting each other. Hopefully an agreement can be found between all parties and the stations can be returned to someone else control. Because no one wants to have a chaotic space on thier border For the reference we have no refining tax and no docking fees so we are making no isk of these stations and they will most likely cost us more to defend these stations than we will ever make out of it Rattman All opinions, rambling or not, expressed here are my own and not that of my corp or alliance

SKiNNiEH	Posted - 2004.08.20 11:11:00 - [171] If the roles were reversed, i think FA would not allow CFS or DSMA to hold a station in their space. It's simple.. they REALLY want that station and so do the people that actually live there. It simply makes more sence for the locals to own it... DSMA, CFS.. its all the same to me: People that live in and defend everything below A2-V27. Does giving the locals back control over the station mean the friendship between FA and CFS/DSMA is over or severely hurt? Then it would really make me wonder what kind of a friendship it has been all this time. Speculation ofcourse and mostly my mind wandering off a bit. But i guess time will show the true character of the alliances and the meaning of the word friendship. -------
SKiNNiEH	Posted - 2004.08.20 11:11:00 - [172] If the roles were reversed, i think FA would not allow CFS or DSMA to hold a station in their space. It's simple.. they REALLY want that station and so do the people that actually live there. It simply makes more sence for the locals to own it... DSMA, CFS.. its all the same to me: People that live in and defend everything below A2-V27. Does giving the locals back control over the station mean the friendship between FA and CFS/DSMA is over or severely hurt? Then it would really make me wonder what kind of a friendship it has been all this time. Speculation ofcourse and mostly my mind wandering off a bit. But i guess time will show the true character of the alliances and the meaning of the word friendship. -------
Armanub	Posted - 2004.08.20 11:16:00 - [173] Originally by: Rattman Setenta do not own the stations, we moved in and controlled them with agreement of the involved parties. We would not have done this with the permission of all the involved parties May want to edit that point my friend
Armanub	Posted - 2004.08.20 11:16:00 - [174] Originally by: Rattman Setenta do not own the stations, we moved in and controlled them with agreement of the involved parties. We would not have done this with the permission of all the involved parties May want to edit that point my friend
Jack Birrent	Posted - 2004.08.20 11:21:00 - [175] Johnny Cochran, olav zaragoth and other "locals": What you are showing is typical slave complex: "We can't win against our masters" "We're like bugs" "We shouldn't even think about opossing them." "They allow us to live there." "They can wipe us out - we should be grateful" That's what you are saying. FFS - it's a game! A GAME!!! There is no reason to live a slave's live in a game! You won't lose anything. They can't do anything to you! WAKE UP! You can break the agreement, **** FA/CA/ETC and defend your territory. Chances are you'll success. You will have fun, that's for sure. Feck, even if you lose, you can all join FA/CA/SA/PA/Xectic with no problem. there are tons of 0.0 corps that recruit, and everyone would accept, skilled, active char into their corp. IT's a game, they can't hurt you. You can gain full independence(think what does 2,5% of all 24/7 minig ops means:D), tons of fun and worst that can happen is reloacation. you do have enough numbers. FA isn't PvP alliance, they can blob for a week, but after two weeks they'll give up pointless fighting and go back to mining. CFS isn't that hated as CA and can still gain strong allies that would stop FA of treating CFS as shooting range. **say you were forced to rebel against them, or sumthing;-)
Jack Birrent	Posted - 2004.08.20 11:21:00 - [176] Johnny Cochran, olav zaragoth and other "locals": What you are showing is typical slave complex: "We can't win against our masters" "We're like bugs" "We shouldn't even think about opossing them." "They allow us to live there." "They can wipe us out - we should be grateful" That's what you are saying. FFS - it's a game! A GAME!!! There is no reason to live a slave's live in a game! You won't lose anything. They can't do anything to you! WAKE UP! You can break the agreement, **** FA/CA/ETC and defend your territory. Chances are you'll success. You will have fun, that's for sure. Feck, even if you lose, you can all join FA/CA/SA/PA/Xectic with no problem. there are tons of 0.0 corps that recruit, and everyone would accept, skilled, active char into their corp. IT's a game, they can't hurt you. You can gain full independence(think what does 2,5% of all 24/7 minig ops means:D), tons of fun and worst that can happen is reloacation. you do have enough numbers. FA isn't PvP alliance, they can blob for a week, but after two weeks they'll give up pointless fighting and go back to mining. CFS isn't that hated as CA and can still gain strong allies that would stop FA of treating CFS as shooting range. **say you were forced to rebel against them, or sumthing;-)
Rattman	Posted - 2004.08.20 11:39:00 - [177] Edited by: Rattman on 20/08/2004 12:11:58 Edited because I put my foot in my mouth. So I guess its time to goto bed Rattman All opinions, rambling or not, expressed here are my own and not that of my corp or alliance
Rattman	Posted - 2004.08.20 11:39:00 - [178] Edited by: Rattman on 20/08/2004 12:11:58 Edited because I put my foot in my mouth. So I guess its time to goto bed Rattman All opinions, rambling or not, expressed here are my own and not that of my corp or alliance
SKiNNiEH	Posted - 2004.08.20 12:00:00 - [179] @ Jack Birrent: for some people, this game is not only about who to F1-F8 today... Some really like the politics, friendships, cloak and dagger type of side that EVE has. @ Rattman: he meant you made a typo... "with" should be "without" :) -------
SKiNNiEH	Posted - 2004.08.20 12:00:00 - [180] @ Jack Birrent: for some people, this game is not only about who to F1-F8 today... Some really like the politics, friendships, cloak and dagger type of side that EVE has. @ Rattman: he meant you made a typo... "with" should be "without" :) -------



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